One of the best sounding vintage amplifiers: Onkyo M-504 and Onkyo P-304
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- legendary vintage stereo combination with absolutely a perfect sound packed in a beautiful setup with huge VU meters. One of the best vintage stereo ever build
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I have this combination. I bought it new in 1989. I love it so much, I will never sell it.
I just bought the combo from the original owner. It's in fantastic condition, still using factory meter lamps and all capacitors holding original value. It looks amazing.
I have this same amp & pre-amp. I also have the matching T-4087 tuner. I bought them new in 1987. It still sounds incredible !
O got m504 p304
I need 2 knobs for my pre amp
Oh wow - I just found this channel, and saw this video. I had both these components and they were the best sounding bits of kit I have yet come across. The preamp, in addition to having great sound, had the most flexible signal routing I've seen in a consumer unit; I ended up using it in my recording studio.
Excellent Review the separate pre and power components does the sound quality justice for an Onkyo Amplifier
I recently sold a pair of M-504s that I used to bi-amp. Built solid they sound soooo smooth.. Best sound for the money. Sold them for $620 and $650. From Texas to CA and second went to Canada. By today's standards, to recreate this sound, pay $2500 to 5000 each. And NO I never changed lamps to LEDs or pimp out. These amps deserve better respect.
Just because you change original incandescents to LED’s, that means your pimping out & disrespecting the 504? You idiot, your the one who disrespected them by selling them so cheap.
Agreed about the 504. But I later walked into a thrift shop and found a GFA555 sitting forlorn on the floor with it's top cover off. They let me take it for free and I found out it had very similar sound qualities in a package with weighed a fraction of the 504.
Big power is a good thing
Gives you dynamic headroom
Thanks for clarifying and definitely agree they don't make these receiver's like this anymore.This is when they had quality. I have Intergra Receiver and it has so much on that you can get lost but you are absolutely right.This is when they have absolute Quality you can't find no more.Even the way it was made pure quality.Thanks so much for sharing this Deb.✌️👍P.S.Beautiful Music Too.
Ik heb deze video gedeeld op de facebook pagina toen was hifi nog heel gewoon oude meuk is leuk. Is een mooie pagina met hele mooie discussies
Out of the literally hundreds of amplifiers I have owned my Onkyo M-505 and A-807 were the best I have had.
So dose it sound warm?
Ain't no doubt about it, this is one of the vintage power amps that is literally the poster child of later 1980's amps. A friend had this unit many years ago and I thought it was a sweet component. A few years back my hifi repair shop had one for sale, fully restored. He was asking $600 for it. I wanted it sooooo freakin' bad, but didn't want to get fully into separates at this stage of my life. At over 150wpc there are very few speakers it can't handle. Cosmetically, functionally and vintage-ly (??) it is one far out power amp.
I love the meters on the amplifier. I miss those on modern equipment.
Yes, but they used to be far more common, even on affordable gear.
I bought this same setup brand new in 1988 or 89 while stationed at Torrejon AB Spain. It's still in immaculate condition aside from the A/B speaker select switches won't stay pushed in unless i stick a guitar pick between them. Aside from that this set is a power house and nothing i've owned since I've had these even compares. to them. I doubt i'll ever sell em really. I would like to get the speaker switches repaired but don't know who would be right to repair them. I wanna keep everything as factory as I can on them. Til then the ole guitar pick will have to do. Thanks for the vid :)
I opened mine up and just sprayed the end switches down with detoxit and
I've had the M-504 and the P-304 for many years now and they are just as great as day 1. I have always ran Cerwin Vega DX-9s and DX-5's with them. 4 Speaker's Rockin the House Big Time..
at a certain moment you need to resolder the contacts an replace the power caps
My Onkyo is considered vintage, LOL. Well, my Integra may be old but it's not obsolete. It does the job and like the man says, it's beautiful.
Nice review,i like it,these equipments are very rare on Brazil,and very expensive !!!
In my videos i use a htc m9u smartphone to record my videos,and the audio quality is excellent,soon i need to buy a audio recorder,to improve the quality of my videos.
Nice review my review of this same set up comes out tomorrow on my channel I first to a plan music demo then an in-depth review and it's in amazing shape love it thanks again enjoy the MOVIE :)
Nice set been looking for something similar
I have one little older
I bought this same amp/ pre-amp combo about 10 years ago for $250. I went with my brother to buy a pair of Bose 901's and guy had amp and pre amp for sale too. I believe they were made from around 1985- 1995.
Awesome amp
The truth is very nice and clean and strong voice to no different from Yamaha same performance
i got the onkyo m 508 I love it !
Danbo San sir do you know anyone who sells onkyo m508?
How would you compare the sound of the M504 vs Technics Se-a5mk2?
Very nice
I have owned my P-304/M-504 since I bought them new in the Early `80s. I paired them up then with a set of Bose 901's. I don't use it so much now because all four sit in my basement where I haven't been doing a lot of work lately. I used to spend a lot of time down there either building or fixing electronics, reloading ammo, or manufacturing on my milling machine. I now have a couple of new Denon/Klipsch 7.2.2 and 7.1 systems that are exquisite, but even with the Klipsch Reference Premier top tier models driven by a Denon AVR-X4300H 125w/ch with an Emotiva 150w/ch amp driving my mains and dual 800w R-115SW subs, it just matches the raw punch and power of the M-504 Bose 901 combo, but the new stuff does not deliver the warmth of the vintage stuff. Don't get me wrong, the new amps are great, but I would not be loathe to get rid of any of it and expect most of it will need replacing within a few years, whereas I fully expect the m504 to easily last another 35 years and probably outlive me.
I would be heartbroken if I ever had to give up the P-304/M-504. They still look and sound awesome 35 years later. I seriously doubt there is anything you can buy today that is built as well. These old amps are also extremely easy to work on and repair, not that I have ever had to open these. I have repaired a fair number of 1980's era amps and it's usually a simple fix with a $5-$20 part. I have an old Yamaha amp that I did have to open once and wen you look at the build quality of these babies you just want to cry when you see the junk that passes today, even from the so-called high end makers.
I've always wanted to try hooking the M-504 up to one of my Denon AVRs to see how it would sound driving my Klipsch mains as opposed to the Emotiva, but the damn M-504 must weigh at least 50 pounds and I am not about to carry it upstairs to try it. It's also mounted tightly fit on a nice piece of furniture with little room to reach behind to detach/attach the cables.
I've seen and owned a fair number of amps over the years and NONE has given me the pleasure in both appearance and sound quality of this pair. If you have an opportunity to buy a used one, even if it doesn't work I would jump on it and have it repaired. If memory serves I paid a good chunk of change on this pair new. In today's dollars I am sure it would run in the multiple thousands and yet I haven't seen anything under $10k that can touch the specs of the P-304/M-504. If memory serves (Ok, I just looked at the manual) the distortion at rated power is a very conservative 165w/ch minimum (+0-1.5db 1Hz to 100kHz) at 0.003% or less. That is just sick! That response curve is like nothing I have ever seen. It has tons of reserve too. I have seen my VU meters nearly peg the 500w mark and I never noticed anything lacking. Bose 901's are rated for unlimited power and this amp always makes those boys work their ports off. The M-504 is one of those rare beauties that will probably be serviceable for a hundred years and certainly would be worth paying $$$ to repair should the need arise.
Yes, I love them that much.
Now that I've written this I am in the mood to bring that M-504 upstairs and try driving my home theater mains with it for music with the dual R-115SW's pitching in. That could be spectacular. Then I may have to relegate the Emotiva to basement use. The question then becomes, will my circuit breakers upstairs be able to handle the load since this draws about 4 amps on top of everything else. Now who could I get to carry that up for me?
ETA
I was just looking at the service manual for grins and I noticed that each channel's power supply has 72,000 microfarads of capacitors.
the new stuff can't compare with your m-504. m-504 is one of the best.
Yeah I used to work in audio dept at circuit city back n the day and remember these M504 in display and the power it put out amazed me, I regret not buying one till this day, I bought an HK Avr30 receiver and still have it today so I am Vet happy with my choice but always remember these amps, like you I would never part with mine either heck I still have the original boxes and receipt!😀
Nice review, I am looking for a new amplifier. Maybe new, maybe vintage.
I have these two units which I bought new in the early `80s. They are in mint condition without a scratch and in perfect working order.
The specs on the M-504 are amazing. Frequency response a stunning 0 - -1.5db from 1hz - 100khz, Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) of only 0.003% at rated 165w per channel power from 20-20khz and the same at 1w output. Signal to noise ratio 100db. This piece alone weighs in at 50lbs.
The specs o n the P-304 pre-amp are eve more amazing. Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) - Phono 0.0008%, CD-TAPE-TUNER-LINE all 0.0005%, all at 3 volts output. Frequency response 0 - -3db from 0.8hz TO 170khz. Signal to noise ratio 110db.
Those are utterly sick numbers.
My new $1500 Denon is rated at 125w x 2ch @ 8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz with 0.05 % THD, 10 Hz - 100 kHz - +1- -3 dB. Not even close to these old gems. Signal to noise ratio 102db. The new Denon poops out with 6ohm or less speakers with a THD of 0.7%. Ouch!
To buy something of this quality today would cost you at least $10k. Made in Japan back when everything was hand built with top quality components pride. Mine will stay in the family when I depart this world. A true vintage classic. Just this month (July 2019) I saw a BROKEN M-504 sell from the Salvation Army for $670. Sold for parts only.
Also try sound testing the marantz SR-940. The power and sound quality scared me when i first tried.
i have that setup and it is one of the best setup i have had in low pries class. i will never sell it.
I have just discovered your channel and i love it. Unfortunately there's a lot of blurred pictures. Plus you don't show us the lovely buttons and what they do.Please could you be showing us a good frontal picture of all these lovely vintage stuff...and maybe the rear connections as well? Thank you.
Klinkt erg Goed andreMooie set.Gr andre.
I had the Onkyo Integra P-304 M-504 running my 4 ohm 12" MTX Road Thunders on top of the 15" MTX Terminators.
Two twelves two horns above two fifteens four midrange and four tweeters, a 14 speaker stack of crystal clear kick ass. Get a load of this man I blew my 2nd fuse after that second quart of Camo 12.20‰ So it sat, mocking me. One day on a whim I gave it away to the next person to walk in the door. That was 15 years ago and not a day passes I regret it
Thanks
Excelente 😍👍
Bravo
Is the Onkyo Interga for sale
I have a yammaha receiver and it has smooth sounds
same here they are good deep sound
Joseph May is it a natural sound?
Onkyo and yamaha same sound the different is the speakers,
best regards
there is a linux player with a Onkyo m504 theme .. it is fantastic to use it on a laptop to play it on a real onkyo m504 , I have two of this
I have a windows system, is it also for windows?
@@vintagestereo DO an internet search for:
Skin «Onkyo TA-2066 amp; Onkyo M-504» for AIMP
I have both pieces. Call me nostalgic, but I also have an Adcom GFA555 II and a Yamaha DSP-A1000...all pieces are in original boxes in new condition.
I have the p304 and the m508.
Please sell me your M-508??
that sounds like the same pair i had at one time pre amp and power amp
jewllake are you selling your onkyo m508 sir?
@@irishjanetabliga1166 Nope! Not by a long shot. I bought mine about 12 years ago for 700.00 now they have doubled in price.
Where is the V.U.'s working? Lot of reflex !
If the damage is easy to fix, why dont you fix it? I have the same combo, I love it.
Look how they mounted those push buttons lmfao
Will that Amp pair good with my Sx850 if not can you tell me what amp would sound good on my Sx 850 Pioneer, Thank you love your vids🎶🎵🔊👍🏻👍🏻💯
That thing is heavy I have one just like it.
I've watched a lot of video's with high powered amp's that have watt meter's...apparently, no one need's more than 50 watts as I've never seen a watt meter reach a higher value. Make no mistake, I love this amp and amp's like it. But why doesn't the meter move more?
Hey Mark, good question. First off you should know that these meters are (usually) designed to register 8 ohm loads. If your speakers are 4 ohm then you should double the reading. Some amps do have adjustments to make meters move more with less watts. There are amps with switchable power meters. I probably didn't explain this too well but I hope you get the idea.
most people rarely use more than 35 - 50 watts. 50 watts is very loud. The extra wattage is great to have on reserve for the added headroom.
I like accuphase E202 much more refined. Onkyo to me little bit boomy in bass overpowering other frequencies.
you are wright e-202 sound better
This combination should kill anything made by Akai. In my country (Australia) Akai was always regarded as just bottom end junk. And yes my current system is Onkyo.
Did you ever heard a Akai RS set from 1987-1989 ? Regarding to my over complete Akai gear 2x AM-73 2x GX-95 1 x AM-95 1 xCD-73 1x CD-93 1x AT-93l that sounds so awesome believe me. Depends on wich ears are listening , and room acoustics and yes speakers. My choise is INFINITY RSIIIA/B. Cheers from the Netherlands
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How much?
Good^^
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Your side wood panels appear to be missing.
Varies by product Some have wooden sides and some come without wooden
I think only the Grand integras came with the rose wood panels.
vuoi un profumo delizioso io ho un ONKIO A 7077 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The model with 2 times 200 watts is fitted with the panels. This one is not.
@Edward L. Hern I remember those... Onkyo Crisp and clean and no caffeine
try showing the rear next time. (the rear of the Onkyo)
i just open my 91 Onkyo reciver, to clean it up and take a look what was wrong with the front keys, and I was surprised to see Nichicon caps, and Sanken power transistors, then after a deep clean, it played music without any issues, no noises, and I was so surprosed how musical and powerfull it is for only about 60w per channel, I have a modern Yamaha 100w per channel an it sound plain, no musical, boring asf both tested in the same room and the same speakers.
My favorite year 1989 the year I was born
Really? You looks like 50
To day o get holl system Onkyo integra M 504 and speakers free from my friend look new
Check mine out my m 504 buddy , i uploaded a video of a music review i total redine caps and transitors and light bulbs Ohh my but upgraded to a new preamp
IMO using a headphone output to demo is not doing it any justice.
Other than that...👍
What is not doing justice is the way Andrew uses to make his demos: with a camcorder's not specialised mikes and in far field take.
Hence the poor sonics of his videos.
I put my 504 on top of my 304. I think it's better that there's nothing on top of the power amplifier, so the heat can escape better.
Yours is a wise advice.
Side by side is another correct way of assembling them.
But NEVER in the way they appear in the video.
@@venturarodriguezvallejo1567 and what about a cabinet to mount everything?
@@tomasagustinveravicentin7789 If it is open (front and rear), solid and has enough room for the power amp, is a good solution.
You do ruin the sound , volume needs balance like sound dose
The Yamaha M-65 & C-65 set really sounds better than this set i sold all of it to get the Yamaha set!
i have a set m-50 wit 50 preamp and a m70 with 45 preamp
Great stuff! 👍
Then you use a phone lol....
why do you say "yes" all the time? are you talking with yourself? :P
Check out his equalizer install video. He has the bookelett
he is lol
be careful using these old Onkyo amps with low impedance and or low sensitivity --there 35 yrs old and parts are difficult to find and most have never been serviced ---
The way you talk and explain is all over the place and have no direction !!!! There's no SENSE and very sickening to hear !!!!
hes not charging you to listen - move on then lol