Sabrina, if you still read comments, please know that I am taking your requests to heart. I am a psychotherapist, myself, and I will be sharing your story widely. THANK YOU for your courage and commitment to Troy's story and memory.
Being a person with chronic pain for over 10 years now and with no ability to work anymore, I feel so hopeless and alone with my situation. When you live in poverty with inadequate coping mechanisms, every day is a struggle. I’m so sad for Troy and can only imagine the stress he was under to keep all the balls in the air. It’s not easy in the best of circumstances and we have few options to try and live with dignity and to not feel like a burden on our families. Men really suffer with always being expected to be tough and strong and we don’t allow men to show their real feelings often enough.
Hi Lisa, I know we've never heard of each other before, but it's been a year or so since your comment and I just wanted to check in with you and ask how you're doing. Much love a z o hope you're in a better place today than you were before.
It's tragic our sick society doesn't give people a painless and graceful way to exit life if they want to. It's a crime to force someone to keep living.
Even places that legalize assisted suicide have limits. Those places only qualify the elderly or terminally ill for assisted suicide. Mentally depressed and suicidal people do not. Tragic.
My son died by suicide February 22nd, 2021. He was 40. He did talk to his partner about the possibility of having concussion syndrome. He was cremated as well, so qe will ne er know. I am his mom and know for sure he had had several concussions because I was at some of those games. He also watched the movie. My son had be ome very paranoid too. He was a kind man, loved by so many, and I am devastates beyond belief. Just pain and more pain.
In tears, thank you so much for sharing Troy's story with us. I relate to what you have shared about him so, so much, particularly about the TBI and chronic pain. I am going to keep trying to hold on, and hopefully I will one day receive better treatment and support. I feel less alone having watched this, and I just want you to know Saprina that you've made a difference, and continue to. You are incredibly brave, strong and loving. You are appreciated, through and through. Wishing your entire family all the very best ❤️
I believe she is doing better today. She is my teacher and seams to have picked up her life and makes jokes. I will enjoy seeing her smile so much more.
Suicide is never simply a cry for attention, but obviously a cry for help. The basic structure of a family now I blushed e wry members co workers and friends, that is overwhelmingly hard for biological oriented families
Dear Saprina, I wish i had someone like you in my family growing up to help people understand this you have spoken. Thank you so much for telling the world of Troy. He is all around, all the time like water. Truly thank you again. Healing has no expiration date, I hope you and your family have been doing okay 🙌🙏 my Sincerest condolences, Angie
Chronic pain is no joke and a headache that never goes away is extremely serious. It's not hard to believe that someone with that amount of suffering would be driven to end their life. It's tragic.
My sister committed suicide 41 years ago. She was in her final year of nursing school. It was devastating for my parents and for all of her siblings. And we have never found out why she did it. Thank you for sharing Troy's story and may you continue to grow in courage and love.
She did it because you and your whole family failed her. You were complicit in her decision. It takes a lot of pain and agony for someone to believe death is the last option. Pain and agony that you and your whole family were aware about, and most likely being part of.
I am planning also to take my own life. I failed in the one business i dedicated my life to and dont have any partner. With no friends even to talk to about suicide. I appreciated sabrina's comforting tone in telling her story. It gave me some assurance but it wont stop me from my plans. Nobody wants to take their own life, but if you feel boxed in like I do, you feel trapped and there is no escape but death
I am literally crying listening to you tell your & Troy's story. I feel your pain and understand all too well as I lost my husband of 26 years to suicide in January of 2020 due to his addiction, stemming from an over prescribing of opiate pain pills before a shoulder surgery. He was being given 40 a week! I didnt understand what was happening to him right in front of me. So many regrets. I understand the profound sadness, the guilt and I know how you collapse to the floor behind closed doors from the sheer devastation. My heart goes out to you and your family. In time may your heart find peace and know you honor your husband by telling the truth and educating us. God bless you and heal you, Saprina. ♡
Opioids help. They never made me feel like an addict. It never stopped working for me. But in the decade since it was pulled back from me, suicide to relive my chronic pain remains an option. It's not death by suicide. It's 15 years of little or no relief. That's 5,479 days. 131,490 hours. At what point do we call suicide from pain an epidemic?
Saprina Schueller, I thank you so much for sharing this on behalf of your beloved husband Troy. I am a survivor of compounded brain trauma. Thank you for mentioning CTE now what I will be mentioning to my doctor. Im sharing this on my social media too, to bring more awareness. Sending your family much love and prayers.
Thank you for your courage and may you and your family find peace. Your message was an important one and you are changing lives by speaking out like this. God bless you!
Thank you for this! People really can't know what it's like to be in chronic pain for years, unless it's actually happening to them. People think they can relate because anyone can tolerate a lot of pain for a short period of time; they can't actually relate. Unfortunately, chronic pain affects brain chemistry and you literally aren't the same anymore; not feeling "normal" = not feeling like yourself. I had a rod, screws, and a metal implant inserted into my spine 5 years ago. My feet burn in all waking hours. Not only is it unpleasant, it's distracting and draining. I know I don't have it the worst (this man's pain sounds awful) but thinking that other people suffer more doesn't help. I know people mean well when they speak about opiates but there really isn't anything else that exists right now. I really think that what people perceive as addition is (at least partially) people doing anything to escape the pain. I'd drink gasoline if I thought it would help.
I’m so sorry for what happened but to just throw out a blanket statement that pain meds should never be used except for a short term basis is a problem in and of itself and is so easy to toss out when you’re not the one living in constant pain day after day and year after year. The fact that this man had to hide and sneak around to get medications that would allow him to continue to keep up his work shows the stigma that surrounds chronic pain and mental illness. When we have no rights to healthcare with it often being inaccessible, unaffordable, and enough to bankrupt us, we are left in an unimaginable nightmare. Troy wasn’t weak, he was tired of always being expected to be strong with no way to get help. The sad fact is our society doesn’t have time for us anymore when we aren’t capable of being productive anymore. Once we aren’t capable of earning a living anymore, no one wants to hear from us and we are surrounded by messaging of being leeches on society, that we are lazy, that we are the weak links in our profit and consumption driven economy. The fact that we live in the richest country that still doesn’t guarantee healthcare as a human right nor do we provide family and medical leave for most of the work force is appalling. This man had good employment with a spouse who also had good benefits and it still was too much to bear so just imagine the working poor who have none of those tools to work with. We have got to stop stigmatizing people who are suffering with chronic pain and other disabling conditions. We need to demand universal healthcare and a minimum basic income as so many other first world nations do and we need to have more options for the under treatment of pain and mental illness when there is so little to choose from and we often lack the ability to utilize it to fruition because of limitations on paid leave. We are left with an untenable situation and I’m sad that Troy had to suffer so terribly with his chronic pain. America has become a cold and mean country with little compassion or empathy to the struggles of our fellow man. In the old days people could live on one income and still have a good quality of life but that is long gone. We are always asked to do more with less and to just accept the status quo when it’s not right. We can’t keep treating people so terribly and expect that things are just going to go on as usual. People aren’t machines but they are treated as such.
My grandfather killed himself, failing to receive any treatment at all at 1950 after a mental breakdown. My elders had tried previously to commit him; my uncle vouching for his sanity. My step mother’s husband did the same, a Shreveport cop, terrorizing my step mother with his police pistol, threatening to kill him self in front of her. An acquaintance, becoming friend, killed himself these last several years. I had debated the reasons with him to trust meds and treatment. Unknowingly, a close friend of mine had been talking him from the ledge for months. The common issue here: each of these deaths ripped a terrible hole in the fabric of existence for survivors. The loss of my grandfather created terrible trauma; a family barely able to care for itself. My father, growing up with out a father. He grasped for attention from my grandmother, who went to work full time and a half after until she was almost 80.
I told my family members about my suicide attempts and they said weak people like me should die anyway. I wish I never asked for help, it made my situation worse. 😌 We are scared of getting hurt even more. Thank you for raising awareness about it.
oh I just lost my sister to suicide 38 on feb 17. my family almost lost me 4 months ago. Her mental health lasted 28 years. she was not weak but couldnt take the emotional pain anymore
As a person that had so much pain in the past that ending my life at the time seemed to be the only answer. But instead, I reached out and found help. Today I am a youth motivational and inspirational speaker helping others understand options before they get to that though pattern. Each story helps me to help others. Blessings for sharing.
He did it because you and your whole family failed him. You were complicit in his decision. It takes a lot of pain and agony for someone to believe death is the last option. Pain and agony that you and your whole family were aware about, and most likely being part of.
Im suffering from a foolish decision. A decision that backfired on me, and totally devastated me, and destroyed my life forever. The consequences were unacceptable, and living is unbearable.. ! It's caused extreme stress, anxiety, insomnia and severe depression. Counseling does not help. There is no reframeing, What i had, is gone forever. The Trauma, grief, guilt, regret and shame i feel... existence is just suffering.... hope no one ever has to feel this way...
The problem is that even if people say "you have to be strong, ask for help, it will help you heal" - it doesn't make it any easier for people to actually ask for help. The pain overwhelms everything else, there simply is no logic attached to the thoughts and actions. Thank you for a very powerful video.
As soon as I heard her say chronic pain, I immediately thought of Dr. Drew and how he states again and again that the desire for the opioid creates the pain symptoms, not the other way around. At that point the rest all fit in a place like a puzzle, the deception to get the drugs, the occupation consequences and the depression. I’m sure he fell into opioid abuse quite by accident, but it rapidly turns into an addiction to those people with a predisposition for abuse to opioids.
The way we treat people with genuine chronic pain is a crime. Life is hard enough as it is without us having to beg for appropriate pain management. We also don't deserve to have to defend our honour on a daily basis to justify our needs for these opiates. If opiods are appropriately managed, then they are a reasonable response to people dealing with long term chronic pain. I am not addicted and my daily issues are reasonably well managed by my daily meds. These issues alone are exhausting, isolating and causes severe mental health issues. She's right, however, when she discusses access to therapy. In my country, there is a strict emphasis on short term mental health care. Some people like me (I have an incurable disease that causes chronic pain and c-ptsd), require long-term care with a psychologist. This might mean many years with regular sessions. I will not be helped by having 6 sessions each year as per our government subsidised allowance. That level of support will simply not sustain me. However, my psychologist feels pressured by her governing body to limit the length of her treatments and she risks her licence if she continues to see me for too long (to her credit, she does anyway). Knowing this causes me untold stress and I continue to feel judged for health issues beyond my control. My life is struggle enough without me having to fight and justify the treatments that I require on a daily basis. I am so so sorry that her husband was able to hide the true extent of his pain and that rather than reaching out, he resolved it with sad, terrifying finality. But I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I can relate to his story wholeheartedly. It takes a lot of energy, but it is relatively easy to put on a wholesome front to those around you. We do it in part because we so desperately want that persona to be our truth. We also do it because the consequences of people seeing the true state of our soul is utterly terrifying. It's a unworkable mix of shame and pain that we are desperately trying to keep to ourselves. When you're in that mindset for a long time it can be a very difficult world to navigate in an appropriately healthy manner. We just end up drowning because we don't have the strength or stamina to swim anymore.
Alot of people blame the alcohol or drugs for the suicide. The alcohol and drug are the med we uses to stop the pain of are body's and minds. Keep praying it can hurt.🙏
Isn´t a big part of the problem the unability to come out and share of the victim? As foreigner with worldwide working experience, I always stumbled upon the US-Cowboy attitude... Here, in Germany, we are sharing when something is bothering us, we admit mistakes and (often, not always) ask for support or help... The root might be in the education as "real man"... Only my 10 cents
I don't think his opiate addiction 🤔 was a issue I think his pain was the issue the man was in a lot of pain if you have any mercy please 🙏 let the holy spirit guide your feeling I know he is with the lord I can feel in my soul God bless 🙌 that family 👪 ❤ 🙏
To everyone who's struggling right now, please know that GOD LOVES YOU. He wants to help you and give you peace. Please surrender your burdens to Him and allow Him to move in your life.
Thank you . I was just today called for help. Need help with feelings and thoughts. I have agoraphobia bad and that with all the other stuff that comes from a very emotionaly abuseive marriage. I think they should have a group or something to come to the person's home . I sit now as also a alcoholic trying to figure out my next step . No one to call and family that are 1800 miles away that don't care anyways . So ,...well.......now what
Please please stop using the term 'committed suicide' . It hurts to hear it and its just plain WRONG. Suicide is not a crime any more, and its not a 'sin' either. Educate yourselves people. And if you truly want to de stigmatise suicide remember the language we use matters! There is a history of suicide in my immediate family. My family members did NOT commit suicide. They took their own lives.
No. Suicide is not murder. Murder is unlawful killing. Suicide was unlawful, a crime, (and a failed suicide could mean going to court) until it was decriminalised in 1961. Neither is it a sin anymore if you are a Christian. There us compassion now for those who's desperate mental state leads to suicide. So that's what needs to be remembered! Remove labels. De stigmatise suicide
I think the best choice for his wife & family would have been to talk. I think this is the heart of her plea. Brave lady & Im so sorry for her pain & loss ❤️
Heartbreak. Almost ended my life as well. Was made fun of at school and though about suicide in my early 20's. I hope you can check out my story on my channel as well. Thanks.
None of the things you say relating to Troy's physical pain had anything to do with his suicide. He committed suicide because we live in a world of punishment, condemnation, and judgment, and as long as that reality exists, suicide will become more prevalent. Your husband was essentially to be punished for using stolen prescription medication. Punishment is always the way that businesses including the school administration, deal with people when they become weak. Your husband is dead because there is no viable mental health treatment anywhere in this world that knows how to help the suicidal. Psychotherapists and psychiatrists are the most useless entities on the planet. They cannot even heal themselves, much less end the suffering of another. Your husband already knew internally that it would do no good to ask anyone including you, his wife, for help. No one who is not suicidal can ever understand someone that is. That is the bottom line. Suicide is going to have to get a whole lot worse before any major change will ever take place. The answer will never be found in the current mental health system. The current mental health system is nothing but an extension of the criminal justice system. In the current mental health system, you are essentially punished and traumatized for being suicidal.
Ok...um...being someone who experienced an NDE...a very profound one after what would have been a successful suicide attempt, I now have a different outlook when it comes to other human beings and the pain we experience. I think I understand where you're coming from with this comment. I think there's something off as well, but you have to understand that she was left with 2 children who Loved this man and there's going to be anger. It's a stage of grief we all go through. On the that same side of the page, we don't understand his pain any more than we can understand her's and if we all might taste our words a little longer before we spit them out, and try to understand people when we are instinctively and impulsively led to judge them, we'd have a lot more love going on than pain in this life. I hope you might consider what this woman would feel reading this comment. It's never wrong to think and feel something. That's part of who we are and our opinions are a result of our environment and those around us influencing us. It is wrong to voice those opinions if the purpose is to spit venom instead of show compassion and Love. ❤
As soon as I heard her say chronic pain, I immediately thought of Dr. Drew and how he states again and again that the desire for the opioid creates the pain symptoms, not the other way around. At that point the rest all fit in a place like a puzzle, the deception to get the drugs, the occupation consequences and the depression. I’m sure he fell into opioid abuse quite by accident, but it rapidly turns into an addiction to those people with a predisposition for abuse to opioids.
Sabrina, if you still read comments, please know that I am taking your requests to heart. I am a psychotherapist, myself, and I will be sharing your story widely. THANK YOU for your courage and commitment to Troy's story and memory.
Being a person with chronic pain for over 10 years now and with no ability to work anymore, I feel so hopeless and alone with my situation. When you live in poverty with inadequate coping mechanisms, every day is a struggle. I’m so sad for Troy and can only imagine the stress he was under to keep all the balls in the air. It’s not easy in the best of circumstances and we have few options to try and live with dignity and to not feel like a burden on our families. Men really suffer with always being expected to be tough and strong and we don’t allow men to show their real feelings often enough.
Hi Lisa, I know we've never heard of each other before, but it's been a year or so since your comment and I just wanted to check in with you and ask how you're doing. Much love a z o hope you're in a better place today than you were before.
It's difficult to make people understand something as complex as suicide.
It's tragic our sick society doesn't give people a painless and graceful way to exit life if they want to. It's a crime to force someone to keep living.
Even places that legalize assisted suicide have limits. Those places only qualify the elderly or terminally ill for assisted suicide. Mentally depressed and suicidal people do not. Tragic.
@@ricardodavis4730 not many civilised countries like belgium out there
True.
This is so heartbreaking. May Troy and his loved ones find peace.
My son died by suicide February 22nd, 2021. He was 40. He did talk to his partner about the possibility of having concussion syndrome. He was cremated as well, so qe will ne er know. I am his mom and know for sure he had had several concussions because I was at some of those games.
He also watched the movie. My son had be ome very paranoid too.
He was a kind man, loved by so many, and I am devastates beyond belief. Just pain and more pain.
So sorry to hear about your loss.
My 21-yr-old son took his life on March 21, 2020.
been thinking bout doing it for 2 years and today im homeless with no help in sight . sure is tempting
So sorry for your loss
Sorry for your losses ❤
So sad. Pain is very difficult to live with. Troy's pain is now over and he is resting with God.
I hope his wife and family find peace. God bless x
Sabrina, thank you for sharing Troy's story. This means a great deal.
In tears, thank you so much for sharing Troy's story with us. I relate to what you have shared about him so, so much, particularly about the TBI and chronic pain. I am going to keep trying to hold on, and hopefully I will one day receive better treatment and support. I feel less alone having watched this, and I just want you to know Saprina that you've made a difference, and continue to. You are incredibly brave, strong and loving. You are appreciated, through and through. Wishing your entire family all the very best ❤️
I believe she is doing better today. She is my teacher and seams to have picked up her life and makes jokes. I will enjoy seeing her smile so much more.
Thank you so much for your bravery in sharing Saprina; I'm sure your story has saved many hurting souls!
Suicide is never simply a cry for attention, but obviously a cry for help. The basic structure of a family now I blushed e wry members co workers and friends, that is overwhelmingly hard for biological oriented families
Thank you for telling people what happened to you and your family.
Dear Saprina,
I wish i had someone like you in my family growing up to help people understand this you have spoken. Thank you so much for telling the world of Troy. He is all around, all the time like water. Truly thank you again. Healing has no expiration date, I hope you and your family have been doing okay 🙌🙏 my Sincerest condolences, Angie
Thank you for sharing your story. I am profoundly moved.
Chronic pain is no joke and a headache that never goes away is extremely serious. It's not hard to believe that someone with that amount of suffering would be driven to end their life. It's tragic.
My sister committed suicide 41 years ago. She was in her final year of nursing school. It was devastating for my parents and for all of her siblings. And we have never found out why she did it. Thank you for sharing Troy's story and may you continue to grow in courage and love.
Soooooo sorry for your loss, life's so sad at times.
She did it because you and your whole family failed her. You were complicit in her decision.
It takes a lot of pain and agony for someone to believe death is the last option. Pain and agony that you and your whole family were aware about, and most likely being part of.
@@blahblah2779What is wrong with you?
It’s not a crime, she didn’t commit anything, died by suicide- depression and pain.
Thank you for sharing this!!!
I am planning also to take my own life. I failed in the one business i dedicated my life to and dont have any partner. With no friends even to talk to about suicide. I appreciated sabrina's comforting tone in telling her story. It gave me some assurance but it wont stop me from my plans. Nobody wants to take their own life, but if you feel boxed in like I do, you feel trapped and there is no escape but death
Hi, Jerol. How are you?
How are you feelig today, man?
It kills others too and they have to go on living. Please don’t do it.
I am literally crying listening to you tell your & Troy's story. I feel your pain and understand all too well as I lost my husband of 26 years to suicide in January of 2020 due to his addiction, stemming from an over prescribing of opiate pain pills before a shoulder surgery. He was being given 40 a week! I didnt understand what was happening to him right in front of me. So many regrets.
I understand the profound sadness, the guilt and I know how you collapse to the floor behind closed doors from the sheer devastation. My heart goes out to you and your family.
In time may your heart find peace and know you honor your husband by telling the truth and educating us.
God bless you and heal you, Saprina. ♡
Opioids help. They never made me feel like an addict. It never stopped working for me.
But in the decade since it was pulled back from me, suicide to relive my chronic pain remains an option. It's not death by suicide. It's 15 years of little or no relief. That's 5,479 days. 131,490 hours. At what point do we call suicide from pain an epidemic?
Inspiring talk.
Saprina Schueller, I thank you so much for sharing this on behalf of your beloved husband Troy. I am a survivor of compounded brain trauma. Thank you for mentioning CTE now what I will be mentioning to my doctor. Im sharing this on my social media too, to bring more awareness. Sending your family much love and prayers.
Thank you for your courage and may you and your family find peace. Your message was an important one and you are changing lives by speaking out like this. God bless you!
Thank you for this! People really can't know what it's like to be in chronic pain for years, unless it's actually happening to them. People think they can relate because anyone can tolerate a lot of pain for a short period of time; they can't actually relate. Unfortunately, chronic pain affects brain chemistry and you literally aren't the same anymore; not feeling "normal" = not feeling like yourself. I had a rod, screws, and a metal implant inserted into my spine 5 years ago. My feet burn in all waking hours. Not only is it unpleasant, it's distracting and draining. I know I don't have it the worst (this man's pain sounds awful) but thinking that other people suffer more doesn't help.
I know people mean well when they speak about opiates but there really isn't anything else that exists right now. I really think that what people perceive as addition is (at least partially) people doing anything to escape the pain. I'd drink gasoline if I thought it would help.
I’m so sorry for what happened but to just throw out a blanket statement that pain meds should never be used except for a short term basis is a problem in and of itself and is so easy to toss out when you’re not the one living in constant pain day after day and year after year. The fact that this man had to hide and sneak around to get medications that would allow him to continue to keep up his work shows the stigma that surrounds chronic pain and mental illness. When we have no rights to healthcare with it often being inaccessible, unaffordable, and enough to bankrupt us, we are left in an unimaginable nightmare. Troy wasn’t weak, he was tired of always being expected to be strong with no way to get help. The sad fact is our society doesn’t have time for us anymore when we aren’t capable of being productive anymore. Once we aren’t capable of earning a living anymore, no one wants to hear from us and we are surrounded by messaging of being leeches on society, that we are lazy, that we are the weak links in our profit and consumption driven economy. The fact that we live in the richest country that still doesn’t guarantee healthcare as a human right nor do we provide family and medical leave for most of the work force is appalling. This man had good employment with a spouse who also had good benefits and it still was too much to bear so just imagine the working poor who have none of those tools to work with. We have got to stop stigmatizing people who are suffering with chronic pain and other disabling conditions. We need to demand universal healthcare and a minimum basic income as so many other first world nations do and we need to have more options for the under treatment of pain and mental illness when there is so little to choose from and we often lack the ability to utilize it to fruition because of limitations on paid leave. We are left with an untenable situation and I’m sad that Troy had to suffer so terribly with his chronic pain. America has become a cold and mean country with little compassion or empathy to the struggles of our fellow man. In the old days people could live on one income and still have a good quality of life but that is long gone. We are always asked to do more with less and to just accept the status quo when it’s not right. We can’t keep treating people so terribly and expect that things are just going to go on as usual. People aren’t machines but they are treated as such.
Thanks lisa i have terrible pain 24 7 365 not sure how to keep going ....
*This breaks my heart, Saprina is so brave to talk about this.**Privacy Laws Advocate is a great idea to help others.*
This is very similar to my grandfathers story. Unfortunately I never got to meet him, he took his own life just a few months before I was born.
My grandfather killed himself, failing to receive any treatment at all at 1950 after a mental breakdown. My elders had tried previously to commit him; my uncle vouching for his sanity. My step mother’s husband did the same, a Shreveport cop, terrorizing my step mother with his police pistol, threatening to kill him self in front of her.
An acquaintance, becoming friend, killed himself these last several years. I had debated the reasons with him to trust meds and treatment. Unknowingly, a close friend of mine had been talking him from the ledge for months.
The common issue here: each of these deaths ripped a terrible hole in the fabric of existence for survivors. The loss of my grandfather created terrible trauma; a family barely able to care for itself. My father, growing up with out a father. He grasped for attention from my grandmother, who went to work full time and a half after until she was almost 80.
I told my family members about my suicide attempts and they said weak people like me should die anyway. I wish I never asked for help, it made my situation worse. 😌
We are scared of getting hurt even more.
Thank you for raising awareness about it.
I hope you are doing better today than before.❤
@@reynalg5 I am doing amazing.
Have a great day! 🤪🥰
oh I just lost my sister to suicide 38 on feb 17. my family almost lost me 4 months ago.
Her mental health lasted 28 years. she was not weak but couldnt take the emotional pain anymore
Himloy don’t ever be ashamed of asking for help and if one person won’t help go to the next.
I feel you been through the same thing n they slap the get over it yet I’m asking how..thank you for sharing this 🤙🏼
As a person that had so much pain in the past that ending my life at the time seemed to be the only answer. But instead, I reached out and found help. Today I am a youth motivational and inspirational speaker helping others understand options before they get to that though pattern. Each story helps me to help others. Blessings for sharing.
Sending my heartfelt compassion and gratitude for this share.
Thank you for sharing your family’s story. May God continue to be the strength for you & your family.
Blew me out when I seen this title. I lost my husband Troy to suicide in 2013
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He did it because you and your whole family failed him. You were complicit in his decision.
It takes a lot of pain and agony for someone to believe death is the last option.
Pain and agony that you and your whole family were aware about, and most likely being part of.
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing your story with CTE learning!!!
Thank you ❤️
Very powerful.
Thanks for sharing.
Best wishes.
Im suffering from a foolish decision. A decision that backfired on me, and totally devastated me, and destroyed my life forever. The consequences were unacceptable, and living is unbearable.. ! It's caused extreme stress, anxiety, insomnia and severe depression. Counseling does not help. There is no reframeing, What i had, is gone forever. The Trauma, grief, guilt, regret and shame i feel... existence is just suffering.... hope no one ever has to feel this way...
The problem is that even if people say "you have to be strong, ask for help, it will help you heal" - it doesn't make it any easier for people to actually ask for help. The pain overwhelms everything else, there simply is no logic attached to the thoughts and actions. Thank you for a very powerful video.
Thank you for your courage in sharing.
He would be so proud of you ❤️
As soon as I heard her say chronic pain, I immediately thought of Dr. Drew and how he states again and again that the desire for the opioid creates the pain symptoms, not the other way around. At that point the rest all fit in a place like a puzzle, the deception to get the drugs, the occupation consequences and the depression. I’m sure he fell into opioid abuse quite by accident, but it rapidly turns into an addiction to those people with a predisposition for abuse to opioids.
The way we treat people with genuine chronic pain is a crime. Life is hard enough as it is without us having to beg for appropriate pain management. We also don't deserve to have to defend our honour on a daily basis to justify our needs for these opiates. If opiods are appropriately managed, then they are a reasonable response to people dealing with long term chronic pain. I am not addicted and my daily issues are reasonably well managed by my daily meds. These issues alone are exhausting, isolating and causes severe mental health issues.
She's right, however, when she discusses access to therapy. In my country, there is a strict emphasis on short term mental health care. Some people like me (I have an incurable disease that causes chronic pain and c-ptsd), require long-term care with a psychologist. This might mean many years with regular sessions. I will not be helped by having 6 sessions each year as per our government subsidised allowance. That level of support will simply not sustain me. However, my psychologist feels pressured by her governing body to limit the length of her treatments and she risks her licence if she continues to see me for too long (to her credit, she does anyway). Knowing this causes me untold stress and I continue to feel judged for health issues beyond my control. My life is struggle enough without me having to fight and justify the treatments that I require on a daily basis.
I am so so sorry that her husband was able to hide the true extent of his pain and that rather than reaching out, he resolved it with sad, terrifying finality. But I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I can relate to his story wholeheartedly. It takes a lot of energy, but it is relatively easy to put on a wholesome front to those around you. We do it in part because we so desperately want that persona to be our truth. We also do it because the consequences of people seeing the true state of our soul is utterly terrifying. It's a unworkable mix of shame and pain that we are desperately trying to keep to ourselves. When you're in that mindset for a long time it can be a very difficult world to navigate in an appropriately healthy manner. We just end up drowning because we don't have the strength or stamina to swim anymore.
End the stigma
Omg, I just want to hug this brave woman 🙏❤🕊
Alot of people blame the alcohol or drugs for the suicide. The alcohol and drug are the med we uses to stop the pain of are body's and minds. Keep praying it can hurt.🙏
Isn´t a big part of the problem the unability to come out and share of the victim? As foreigner with worldwide working experience, I always stumbled upon the US-Cowboy attitude... Here, in Germany, we are sharing when something is bothering us, we admit mistakes and (often, not always) ask for support or help... The root might be in the education as "real man"... Only my 10 cents
From Germany. No we don't. Not always. Not even women. I guess it really depends on the person.
Good video
This is so sad those privacy laws are a joke my son would still be alive had I been appt so sorry for your loss
I can see myself in a similar situation as her husband
I don't think his opiate addiction 🤔 was a issue I think his pain was the issue the man was in a lot of pain if you have any mercy please 🙏 let the holy spirit guide your feeling I know he is with the lord I can feel in my soul God bless 🙌 that family 👪 ❤ 🙏
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Speak out dont suffer in silence nothing to be ashamed off its mental health and it stinks
Have in mind! I should do something before my next birthday
To everyone who's struggling right now, please know that GOD LOVES YOU. He wants to help you and give you peace. Please surrender your burdens to Him and allow Him to move in your life.
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Thank you . I was just today called for help. Need help with feelings and thoughts. I have agoraphobia bad and that with all the other stuff that comes from a very emotionaly abuseive marriage. I think they should have a group or something to come to the person's home . I sit now as also a alcoholic trying to figure out my next step . No one to call and family that are 1800 miles away that don't care anyways . So ,...well.......now what
Are you doing ok now? I hope so.
Please please stop using the term 'committed suicide' . It hurts to hear it and its just plain WRONG. Suicide is not a crime any more, and its not a 'sin' either. Educate yourselves people. And if you truly want to de stigmatise suicide remember the language we use matters! There is a history of suicide in my immediate family. My family members did NOT commit suicide. They took their own lives.
That’s very profound. You’re absolutely right and that terminology should be stopped at once.
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This is true 👍
We must not forget that it is murder.
No. Suicide is not murder. Murder is unlawful killing. Suicide was unlawful, a crime, (and a failed suicide could mean going to court) until it was decriminalised in 1961.
Neither is it a sin anymore if you are a Christian. There us compassion now for those who's desperate mental state leads to suicide.
So that's what needs to be remembered!
Remove labels.
De stigmatise suicide
The man is finally free. Unfortunately it could not be without causing pain. He made the best choice.
What no
I think the best choice for his wife & family would have been to talk. I think this is the heart of her plea. Brave lady & Im so sorry for her pain & loss ❤️
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This may be unrelavent but she’s my teacher!
Heartbreak. Almost ended my life as well. Was made fun of at school and though about suicide in my early 20's. I hope you can check out my story on my channel as well. Thanks.
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I would have at least waited until after Hawaii.
5:30 🕠 going too a job wow 😮
None of the things you say relating to Troy's physical pain had anything to do with his suicide. He committed suicide because we live in a world of punishment, condemnation, and judgment, and as long as that reality exists, suicide will become more prevalent. Your husband was essentially to be punished for using stolen prescription medication. Punishment is always the way that businesses including the school administration, deal with people when they become weak. Your husband is dead because there is no viable mental health treatment anywhere in this world that knows how to help the suicidal. Psychotherapists and psychiatrists are the most useless entities on the planet. They cannot even heal themselves, much less end the suffering of another. Your husband already knew internally that it would do no good to ask anyone including you, his wife, for help. No one who is not suicidal can ever understand someone that is. That is the bottom line. Suicide is going to have to get a whole lot worse before any major change will ever take place. The answer will never be found in the current mental health system. The current mental health system is nothing but an extension of the criminal justice system. In the current mental health system, you are essentially punished and traumatized for being suicidal.
Cause of death: Bus accident causing increadible suffering.
i think shes a narcissist , perfectionist and delusional --i choose to believe their “perfect “ life was far from it
You know nothing and your blatant disrespect brings shame on your character.
If you have nothing good to say please be silent....
Ok...um...being someone who experienced an NDE...a very profound one after what would have been a successful suicide attempt, I now have a different outlook when it comes to other human beings and the pain we experience. I think I understand where you're coming from with this comment. I think there's something off as well, but you have to understand that she was left with 2 children who Loved this man and there's going to be anger. It's a stage of grief we all go through. On the that same side of the page, we don't understand his pain any more than we can understand her's and if we all might taste our words a little longer before we spit them out, and try to understand people when we are instinctively and impulsively led to judge them, we'd have a lot more love going on than pain in this life. I hope you might consider what this woman would feel reading this comment. It's never wrong to think and feel something. That's part of who we are and our opinions are a result of our environment and those around us influencing us. It is wrong to voice those opinions if the purpose is to spit venom instead of show compassion and Love. ❤
This really wasn’t the time or place for that comment…
I want some opioids.
As soon as I heard her say chronic pain, I immediately thought of Dr. Drew and how he states again and again that the desire for the opioid creates the pain symptoms, not the other way around. At that point the rest all fit in a place like a puzzle, the deception to get the drugs, the occupation consequences and the depression. I’m sure he fell into opioid abuse quite by accident, but it rapidly turns into an addiction to those people with a predisposition for abuse to opioids.
The pain for the survivors is 100s of times worst than what the victim feels.
This, we can never know, can we now?
They say suicide is handing over your pain to someone else....