Did Ruroc Finally Get it Right with the Atlas 4.0?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Ruroc and their helmets have largely been a horrible experience for me and I have had their Atlas 2.0, Berserker, and the Atlas 3.0. In each of these helmets, I have had horrible fitment problems, quality issues, and extreme wind noise. So they recently released the Ruroc Atlas 4.0 and have made claims that they have listened to the issues people have had and they have fixed them and have made major improvements on the quality, fitment, safety, and comfort of the Ruroc Atlas helmet. But have they? Join me and we'll talk about this Ruroc 4.0 and I'll give you my opinion....
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Hey man, thanks for the mention. I agree with everything you said. I love seeing people confirming what I was saying about how good the 4.0 is. Not sure how I feel about Ruroc as a company as they go through some growing pains but the 4.0 is really awesome.
I totally agree with them as a company .... they've got some logistics and support challenges to overcome for certain!
Great review. I had quite a large order placed with Ruroc for the 4.0 and had to cancel it due to some customer service issues. I’m glad to hear this version of the helmet is much better. Well done sir!
Yeah ... it's always a challenge sometimes with their customer service. They really do need to resell into stores
Well I held off for quite some time but now you and Gears & Gadgets and a few others have given me enough hope to throw some cash on the line and find out for myself. We shall see. Thanks for the review. Oh and, I use your videos as a drinking game. Every time you say Y'all, I take a shot. I'm usually toasted by the end of a 15 minute vid. (LOL!!) We say Yinz here in Pittsburgh.
Haha ... I approve of drinking games based on my southern fairs ...
Just ordered this beautiful lid arrives tomorrow, I can’t wait
I've been a big critic of Ruroc ... but this one is super nice!
So happy they finally fixed a lot of these issues. I'm a bit worried about the size but I did follow their chart. I was half way between sizes so I went up a size. It better be damn good though as the total price with the helmet, shockwave, pinlock, crash insurance, etc came out to just over $900. I am a bit curious on the shipping time though since they have always had issues with shipping on time. I see other say they got theirs quickly, but I ordered mine as soon as they became available on Feb 18 and here it is March 21 and have heard nothing on when it will be here.
Quality, fit, sound and quietness are top notch. It sucks they haven't figured out this whole shipping thing. Poor logistics will kill a company for certain
$900? Ouch..
How was the fit for you going a size up Brian?
@@ferris8541 It was painful getting on my head. Hurt my brain when I finally got it on. Hurt my ears really bad when turning my head left or right. Started to get scared because it was super hard to get off and had to take a couple of breaks with the helmet half way off my head because it hurt so much. My head was throbbing afterwards. It's weird because the shell is much larger than the Bell that slides right on my head. it's just that the opening is super tiny. I have a neanderthal forehead, so maybe that's why... idk. The inside padding was super snug(more snug than normal snug) and perhaps would have broke in and felt better, but that opening was just to hard to deal with. I sent it back for a size swap to the next size up and that isn't scheduled to be delivered until the end of July. It's going to take me 6 months, from the time of initial order, to get a helmet that hopefully maybe fits.
@@brianbalcer oh man ... sounds like I maybe should of gone 2 sizes up lol ! Thanks for taking the time to reply ... hope the replacement fits ya !
Nice review! Glad you're having a better experience. I'm still working on my review. I had the same experience shipping as you. I got it in 5 days! But I've heard from others that they're having delays and delivery times in the 3+ week range.
Yeah - I suspect they have tripped the same shipping hurdle they had last time. They need so spend money on logistics
Mine 3 week delay :(
mine will be sent 18th april (thats whay they say). TH-camsr are first in line i guess xd.
@@UlvarinLind Nope - I bought mine and I don't use a name that is known to them. It sucks they are starting to get back into the problem with deliveries. I suspect what they did is stocked enough for the first round of buys and then went right back to sucking at getting products shipped.
@@UlvarinLind Same here. I bought it straight up from their website without any affiliation to my channel. I bought it on release day pretty early so I assume I got one in stock and ready to ship. Send April 18th? Wow that is quite a delay! :(
Hey dude, Great video. I watched GearsandGadget and when he said the 4.0 was replacing the RF-1400 I was shocked as he had the transition lens as well.
I was looking at the 1400 as my next helmet, but maybe I should be looking at the 4.0 as well. Someone who is willing to cut open a helmet and laugh at the helmet earned my respect about giving an honest review of the 4.0. Now youwith all the issues you had in the past with Ruroc, switching from the RF-1400 with transition lens to the 4.0 is making me thinking about it even more now.
Couple questions for you.
-How did it fit compared to the 1400? so if the 1400 needed a Medium, was the Ruroc a medium as well?
-Speakers, I know you have the shockwave so you might not be able to answer this, but Do you think the Cardo packtalk bold 40mm JBL's will fit in there without pushing up against the ears?
Reason I ask this question, is I am currently wearing a AGV K6 (that fits good other then the padding is wearing to quickly and needing to be replaced), My wife bought my son and I cardo packtalk bolds and no matter how I adjust the speakers, they are pushing up against my ears and bothering me now. The helmet never bothered me before the speakers were put in other then I find it loud.
What are your thoughts?
Can't wait to see a Vlog with the helmet on to hear the volume of wind and exhaust. Thanks for the video and hopefully answers to my questions.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment. Let me try and answer all your questions.
1. The Fit. So I wear a Medium in an RF1400 and that translates to an ML in Ruroc. Best bet is to measure your noggin and follow their website instructions for picking the right size.
2. Speakers. They should fit just fine. The Ruroc 4.0 have deeper wells for the speakers and they almost cup your ears. I think that's why the sound is much, much better in the 4.0
So, the problem you MAY have is that your head is not an Intermediate Oval head and may be a more Oval head. If you have a Cycle Gear or a helmet shop near you go try on a few and see if you notice the difference. If that is the case, any Intermediate Oval helmet shape is going to give you problems with where your ears are when speakers are added. Now I can say this, in my Berserker and Atlas 2.0/3.0 the speakers did touch my ears - so I know for a fact that the had to have deepened the speaker well.
@@dadwithabike Thank you for the reply.
@@dadwithabike Hey dude, update to their shipping/stock. It once again sucks haha. So the site says DHL for shipping but mine came by FedEx. I ordered March 20th and just received it today May 12th. Holy crap is it a tight fit going by their chart. Nice thing is I can take some layers out if I want.
I will hold on to judgment for the rest of the helmet until I get ride time with it and it breaks in.
I noticed ... I was going to order a mercury but the delay is crazy...
Here we go again!
I know right .... but I'm told the relationship will be different, they promise.
@@dadwithabike we will be here when you break up again. 💔
Was looking at the atlas 3.0 reviews and was so disappointed with it because I absolutely love their designs. Now watching this 4.0 review gives me hope even though it's a little bit more pricey. I'm seriously thinking about getting this one.
They are pricey and for the cost they are competing with fully decked-out Shoei and Arai helmets. I love mine and like I said in the video - it beats my RF1400 for me.
I have chosen the Shoei GT AIr 2 over the atlas 2.0 (And do not regret it). The 2.0 and 3.0 were miserable after some months. I know some that ordered them. And i am honest, I love the looks of the ruroc. But the poor quality and loudness kept me from buying one. Would you choose it again over the shoei if you had to buy it now? How does the shockwave system, compare to the shoei - senna srl2? AND if you open the visor on your ruroc a bit while riding low speed (like to catch some wind), does it still does that annoying wishle sound inside the helmet? Last one, how is the fitment, if one is between to sizes, should one go for the bigger one or smaller one?
AHHH and min. 6:38 - did anything slipped, what is this strip above, looks like glue residue?
So the shockwave is better than with my Sena 10C Evo inside my Shoei RF1400. The wind whistling doesn't happen anymore (or at least not on mine) and as for the fitment ... man I could tell you on that, best would be to ask Ruroc their opinion. Lastly, it's just the inner foam protection, nothing slipping.
@@dadwithabike Thanks for the feedback. Oh right, here is called the Shoei Gt-air 2 not rf-1400. But now, if you would buy just one of them which one would you buy, the rf-1400 or the ruroc 4.0?
What size did you go with on the 4.0? I have a 3.0 Medium and I don't mind it actually, fit's quite well, but I agree the padding is a bit substandard.
I wear a medium in the older versions and an ML in the 4.0
Do you think the airflow/vents will compensate enough for hot southern weather?
I do, it's got really good airflow
How are the graphics? Are they rigid on the lines? I seen a couple other videos showing that the graphics are really botched up. Meaning like the lines aren't smooth at all, they're rigid like a saw if you will. In your video they look smooth.
He has passed away unfortunately.
Great Review and I appreciate your honesty!
Could you please tell us the circumference of your head and what size you get?!
Thx a lot
58CM and I wear an ML in Atlas 4.0
Okay thx 🙏
So I am 58 cent M/L helm size but was a tight fit, going 1 size up to L/XL size. I think when you order a 4.0 you might have to size up.
They just shipped mine. I got the Commander to match my twenty. I also have the 1400 but I dropped it and didn't feel comfortable again because it might have lost its integrity. How long did it take to get to your home?
It took 4 days from the day I ordered it to when it landed on my front door.
@@dadwithabike can you tell me what was your measurements and what size you got? I use a L on my 1400. Sort of scared I got the wrong size since it was telling me to get a S/M.
the chain app is something that can connect all devices
6:13 bro, you can literally see the inside padding of the helmet coming away, and im guessing this is a brand new helmet. That kind of quality control is outrageous. And this is better than an RF100? gtfoh
RIP Brother ✌🏼🤟🏼😎
please add Polish subtitles
Ruroc buys these good reviews
They will never touch Shoei or Agv !!!
As good as you say it may be, I will never get another ruroc helmet. I won't go into it, but they did me dirty.
Oh I feel ya ... I really really do. They've got stuff to do to be a better company.
I'm curious about what happened! Just did a review on the 4.0.
@@epicmotorcyclechannel307
1.) sent me the wrong helmet size I had ordered, refused to pay for shipping back(which was well over $100).
2.) The second helmet they sent me was also incorrect size, even though I used their size chart to measure my head and ordered the size for that measurement. They did pay for shipping back on this one.
3.) Cheek pads were horrible, not me just griping, they actually released newer thicker cheek pads because of the mass complaints. They expected the owners of the 3.0 to buy the new pads.
4.) Purchased these new pads because I was already so deep into the helmet figured may as well, the new pads probably would have made the recommended size fit because now the helmet was way too tight. When I emailed about this they responded "they will break in". I've ridden for well over 15 years...they should not take this long to break in. It hurts my jaw, I just removed them and use the old cheek pads.
Ruroc is a great marketing company, and maybe this new helmet is good. However, the poor customer service and quality of the helmet has left a poor taste in my mouth. I will never purchase another Ruroc in my life, nor will I recommend anyone else.
@@LonerBoi88883 Wow thanks for that, I was curious because I had 3.0 issues too and wondered if they were similar, and they were. I ended up with a 4.0 and like @dadwithabike, found it better but I still don't think it's as good as a Shoei and understand completely why you'd bail on them as a company.
Heya, noticed during the course of your video (around the 8min mark) I noticed the high density foam sticking down below the fine of the outer carbon fibre shell. Any comments you can make about that? Do they move around independently?
Wondering if this will be answered???
@@fatchili7424he has passed away.
A bobble head toy helmet for the price of an Arai (LOL) made by a company who tries to get rid of the failed models at a 40-60% discount... It's a bad deal, no matter how you look at it. And your helmet has visible SEPARATION between the inner and outer shell, ffs. Garbage.
I'll wait for the 5.0. At 500+ not investing in a company with known support issues that the 4.0 will stand up to the 5 year mark..
My son ordered me the Liquid Carbon 4.0 as a gift! It’s out for delivery FedEx right now. I’m waiting!!! 😁
Their customer service is trash.
Dudes, why is dat „protective foam layer“ sticking out of a shell so ugly 😢
They have the app called chain. I haven't messed with it yet. As it is like you I'm very disappointed with the 3.0. Same issue the bottom gasket started coming apart. So I don't wear it much. I do have the 1.0 fear and love it. Trying to finish the war bonnet look with some feathers from brave wolf customs.
Their Chain app is weird and not sure the purpose other than maybe you want to share a ride with someone in a different location - I'm not sure of their goal to be honest.
I like the look, just gold isnt my color... will love a 3 or 6 month update on this helmet.... also maybe discord app call, like group call for riding with cardo folks... maybe
Yeah - will give a long term review in a few months after I've put some miles in it.
Thanks for the in depth review been on the fence about this helmet because of price but I think I'm gonna make the jump. I watched your fast mask glove review when I bought my pair and I fricken love them
I love Fast Mask gloves - hard for me to wear any others now. As for the Helmet, I'm going to be doing a long-term review because I just did a long long trip with it. The short of it is ... amazing helmet.
I love the looks of it. I’m in the market for a helmet. Right now I’m just using a bell custom 500 with bubble shield. Buying a new helmet is a pain, especially online
Yes it is .... and worse if it doesn't fit and you deal with returns
Appreciate the review and breakdown. I ordered the 3.0 & was supremely disappointed with the lack of padding or comfortability of it. It was thin, I could see the styrofoam mold through the liner & it was embarrassing to say the least. The designs are their best feature and I'd like to go back with them. Unfortunately I heard you talk about the padding and liners but didnt get a chance to see it in the video. I was wondering if you felt the same way about the 3.0 padding & how much of an upgrade the 4.0 padding is?
Yes, the 3.0 was horrible. The 4.0 on the other hand is a much, much better and more comfortable helmet
The 4.0 is the best
RIP John...
Great review! I share a lot of the same sentiment as you for the helmet and company.
I feel the 4.0 helmet is worth the price finally. Maybe Ruroc will make use of this version's success and improve the company itself. Spend less on advertising, and improve their scaling worldwide and ability to handle workflow when it's needed.
I'm going on 2 weeks of waiting on an 'In Stock' camera mount to ship out. I understand they are behind on helmet orders, but delaying every product from shipping for the sake of being behind on a few is not something that would ever fly in my line of manufacturing.
Totally agree ... they need to spend some $$$$ on logistics for certain
Yea! A US distributor or something. How can they compete with Revzilla who can ship for free in a matter of days when they are taking in the order of months to get product out.
I love my 2.0 I’ve had no problem with mine but I understand where all different
Yup, the experience was all of the map. I think the 4.0 will have everyone with the same experience. It's a really nice helmet now.
I wish I had mine already, ordered 12th March, delivery will only be end of May. One question, Is the dark visor dark enough?
Sometimes ... I know that is a sucky answer. If the sun is right in my face, I still need my sunglasses.
personally the dark visor works good enough at all times, like dad said, if the sun is right in your face its a bit hard to see but that's to be expected, and its not too dark to where you cant see shit at night w the visor down.
Hey Dad, thanks for putting out this video. I’ve commented on your past Ruroc videos and I had similar issues with the company’s service more than anything. I own a 2.0 and. 3.0 and I in the past have drank their koolaide. So I appreciate you doing this video.
I’m so frustrated with the past experience that I’ve been holding off ordering the new lid, even with the good reviews, so people like yourself, Dan from gears and gadgets and Brett from ChopperFett are easing me into the decision… again. They aren’t cheap tho. I’m in Canada, so the cost is about $300 more for me. The shipping is more and we pay duty, that’s $150-$200 by itself.
Do you trust the new sizing chart?? My 2.0 is an XL and I swim in it (that was my normal helmet size). My 3.0 is a L and it fit well with the original cheek pads, but I couldn’t get it on my head with the upgraded ones (more hype, didn’t fix the problem because it didn’t fit). The new sizing chart says M/L. So I’m not sure what that means, but I’m worried it’s snappers than a L and if they fixed the padding issues then is it going to be too small? Ugh! I just wish I could try one on at a retail store!
Anyways, great video, I most likely will drop another $1000 on a Ruroc Atlas 4.0.
Pete
Ohhh man, if I had to pay a $1000 for it....I'm not sure I would buy it to be honest. That's a lot of change to drop without being able to try it on and being certain. If that were the case for me I'd still be rocking my Shoei RF1400
@@dadwithabike
I might use my 3.0 for one more season and grab a sale… because we know they will put them on sale!!!! LOL
@@peterdoherty7282 the 4.0 pads are bigger than the 3.0, get a fabric measuring tape and follow the instructions on their website, and get the size that correlates, it might be a little tight for a week but it molds to your face really well, when i first got mine it was a bit tight and was hurting my jaw a little after riding but now there is absolutely no problems, great helmet, great fit, looks fucking sick.
I bought the 4.0 and followed the sizing guide and it literally hurts my ears to put on after installing my cardo but once it's on it is snug and comfortable.
I wonder if that's because the cardo's speakers are thicker than the Shockwave speakers
@@dadwithabike idk I'm thinking that I'm borderline to big for the sm but could be a possibility. Maybe I just need to break the pads in better
@@STON3GSXR Ahh, mine were a little tight but not painful and they loosend up a bit so it's a great fit now.
I had been a ruroc user for years. Die hard. Had the atlas 4.0. Then. I recently got the Shoei rf 1400. Let me just say there is absolutely no comparison. The Shoei blows it out of the water on many levels. Quality-ruroc started falling apart fairly quickly. Rubber trim glued back several times. Chin skirt and cheek pads always popping out. And it was damn loud with lots of head movement at high speed. Now the Shoei i have looks and feels much higher in quality. From the interior. To the venting. To the shell sizing. Virtually no wind noise. Or satisfying low muffle at high speed. Zero head movement on highway. And the size of shell looks compact. The ruroc looked huge on my head. Anyway. Great video. Rf 1400 all day any day. It’s cheaper as well. And as cool as ruroc can look. I think the Shoei looks better in its understated sleekness and proper shell size to the head.
Got a 4.0 customer service was horrible with huge delays and lies about delivery. Thennnn once the helmet came the seal that you mentioned for the 3.0 happened to my 4.0! I hadn’t even worn it out just tried it on. I emailed them about returning it and a week later still no reply! I was going to just get an exchange but I am going to stay clear of this company. I ordered a HJC 11 pro carbon and the built quality is 100% Better then ruroc. Plus it was 150£ cheaper.
I enjoy my 4.0 quite a bit. It looks cool, fits well and the shockwave system sounds really good. My biggest issue has been the mic that comes with the system. Every call I've ever been on with it I'm told I sound static-y and I have to pull over and call them back after disconnecting. Helmet noise is amazing, even my harley with drag pipes doesn't kill my ears with the helmet on.
Love the look of 4.0, but can you wear glasses with it?
Yes you can, there are channels built into it
Thank you and great work with all your videos.
What's kind of shocking to me is how the inside foam and plastic on top of the helmet (on the forehead) is already getting away from the helmet itself...
I had the berserker 5mins and put it straight back in the box. rubbish but now you've got me thinking of the 4.0 thanks
I agree the 4.0 is a great fit helmet. I also like the shockwave but to me it doesn’t hold a candle to the cardo black systems. Love the fit and quality of my 4.0 and thank you for your review!
Hey it's good u manage to convince ur wife to use ur shoei rf-1400..lol
I tried the 3.0 my friend had and it fit ok a little loose... I ordered the 4.0 for myself and while I'll say this looks amazing feels amazing I love the fidlock strap on it but I do wish they gave more room on the strap so it was more adjustable... the helmet itself doesn't fit me at all really. like in the 3.0 I could easily put two fingers between my face and the front vents... on my 4.0 I can't even get a finger in to flip the chin vent switch. the only way I could even get the helmet on my head was by removing the pads... So I tried to take out the cheek pads because I can't remember who but someone mentioned you could separate the layers to make it custom... nope they are glued and ripped. I still like the helmet but if their padding has to be so extreme they really need to make a size bigger shell as they did for the xxs helmet. I couldn't return it if I wanted to because the pads tore and the tag came off just trying to put the helmet on so I'm kinda pissed but in the end, it's my fault for buying a helmet online.
What was your measurements and what size did you order? Been freaking out about this issue too and it's a pain to ship back from what I read.
@@CultivatedBunny so I measure in just under 23.5 inches but I have a thick neck and bigger face than average. So I fit in the shoei neotec in a XL with their thiner check pads or 2xl with the thickest pads
@@CultivatedBunny oh I ordered their 2xl bc I was worried about it being tight even though on their chart I’m under the max for a m/l
@@Patd3163 dang, and it still fit you that tight? I measured at 22.5 and that was a S/M but when with a M/L due to me wearing an L on my Shoie 1400. I guess I'll find out if I fucked up in size on probably on Monday. They just shipped it yesterday
@@CultivatedBunny just be super careful putting it on that the tag on the fidlock doesn’t come off! Can’t return it if that’s taken off lol
I’ve been an Arai fan for may years and have owned 4 of them to date. I also own a 2.0 Ruroc and to be honest I don’t understand all the bashing. I think for what I paid the quality is good, it’s amazingly light, fairly comfortable and not as loud as people have reported. That being said I just purchased a 4.0 Superman and looking forward to comparing it to my 2.0.
Ohhh comparing to the 2.0 it's going to be night and day different. Sadly, the 2.0 was MUCH better than the 3.0 but the 4.0 is amazing.
Looks are amazing! I passed on the 3.0 because of safety. The 4.0 is much much better. So I finally purchased one. Can’t wait because they always are BEAUTIFUL helmet. But safety is ALWAYS first in a bike, always.
I really like mine, you won't be disappointed