The thing most people forget about the 360 arc mgs on WW2 tanks is the enemies infantry AT capability. Modern infantry can expect to fire AT missiles from beyond easy MG range but in WW2, AT weapons tended almost entirely to, at best, grenade throwing distance, and at worst magnetic mines you had to manually connect. A 360 MG is vital when your targets are that close. Imagine a modern version of the japanese infantry soldier with a bamboo pole and a antitank mine. You'd pray your infantry was doing their job.
love the video. My favorite vehicle is sdkfz 251/21 Drilling. It is 3 light auto cannons 360 degree mounted on a Hanomag. This thing is an VET infantry killer. You are rolling 6 dice with -2 pen. It cost only 145 points a lot cheaper than the Wirbelwind. I take this vehicle in tournaments where the limit to Armor to +8. You will have to make your own model since War Lords doses not sell one.
I love these videos! I have been playing for about a year and have been looking for a collected review like this. The graphics are great, they add lots of value for me :D
Really enjoying the effort you put into these videos. Really learning a lot as I’m just starting out. Any chance you would consider videos like this for infantry models or support vehicles, artillery, etc per nation?
I agree with your picks. Was expecting StuH and panzer 4 to be very high up. Also expected to see little panzer 1, panzer 2/ panzer 38(t) recon model. Super big tanks aren't worth the trouble. Though only 1 tank per army is kind of restrictive.
@@HollywoodWargaming pz38 (t) with the recon light autocannon has the exact same stats as pz 2. Recon option does not give it recce though. At least I think it doesn't, it's not specified.
Medium howitzers can throw pins on anything up to a heavy tank if fired indirect. That D3 pins isn’t something to be ignored and can force heavy tanks to rally a lot. Yeah, a 6 would be required to deal superficial damage, but those D3 pins aren’t something to be ignored.
I'd replace the Wirbelwind in this list with the armored Opel Blitz with the quad autocannons. Yes it has 7+ instead of 9+ Armour, but when it’s open topped that's fairly irrelevant, for 100 points cheaper.
Great video and the graphics are a big upgrade. One problem as a new player: I have no idea which of these are late, mid, or early war tanks. If I were to go early war which are available?
Early War: Panzer I, Panzer II, Panzerjager I Mid: Panzer III L, Grille, StuH 42, Tiger I, Panzer IV in F2 version (same as H) Late: Hetzer, Wirbelwind, Sturmtiger, Brummbar, Panzer IV H, Panzer II Luchs
May I ask why you choose the Grille above the Panzer 1 SIG 33? Essentially the same vehicle, except for the crew manned MMG. The SIG hasn't got one but is 5 points cheaper. Since MMG won't be used at least 97% of the time, I'd say you could use the 5 points for something else. I probably would. Love your video's!
No it is in he Armies of Germany book. But there are so many Tanks and SPA/SPG's in there, I can imagine missing one easily. I have the v2 version of the book, perhaps that is the issue?
Yes! First of all, warlord has a DAK supply drop box set for September. These sets usually have a ton of stuff in them for the price. Could be a good jumping off point. After that, look into getting some light tanks and recce vehicles like the 222, Panzer 1 and 2, and Opelousas.
@@HollywoodWargaming Damn! I actually just bought some models so I’m good now. I got the starter kit which I think is a really good starting point. I have a 1LT, 4 infantry squads (1 veteran, 2, 8-mans, 2, 7-mans), AT rifle team, MMG, mortar, Flak 88 and Panzer 3.
What about taking a Tiger 1 with pintle mount and fuel shortage. You can open up with 3 MMGs for 18 shots towards the end of a turn so you don't get shot while open topped.
I actually use Tamiya 1/48 scale for most of my armor vehicles. Their kits are all over eBay and Amazon. Though I have other vehicles from Blitzkrieg Miniatures, Perry Minis, and Rubicon.
Historically speaking you are absolutely right. But my definition of "Major Faction" for Bolt action is the 5 nations included in the main rulebook who have their own individual "Armies of..." Book. They just get more representation in the game overall which is why I consider them "Major" while France and Italy are "Minor". But I assure you Italy will be coming soon, along with France and the Finns.
Erwin Gaming Thats still a solid 400 flakpanzers built on the Pz IV chassis. I’m definitely not trying to make the case that Wirbelwinds were common, just giving some background on the German’s increasing emphasis on ground-to-air support as the war dragged on. Apologies if the wording made it seem like I was referring to Wirbelwinds specifically.
@@HollywoodWargaming Yes but four hundred, the Panzerwaffe had none of the Wirbels, which were an SS project. meanwhile the Panzerwaffe had 49000 tanks and 44000 other armoured vehicles (the Wirbelwind as a SPAAG fits here). 400 out of over 80000 is not a regular showing.
Erwin Gaming yes but many other armored vehicles were converted into AA countermeasures. Keep in mind “armored vehicles” includes things like Sdkfz 251s and 222s
Sorry, but if you look at page 69 in the rule book under HE, it says “once the unit has gone down, roll to hit, place the template...” there is no further mention of giving a down order after being hit, and no mention of going down under the indirect fire rules on page 71.
@@scalehistoryslc819 Unfortunately my rule book was left at a hobby shop and I can't look over it right now, but I could have sworn reading that in there recently. It's possible I'm mistaken though. Never the less, I think it being HE still motivates them to go down more so than small arms fire.
Hollywood Wargaming oh for sure! And as the person firing the HE, you only want them to be able to go down when you declare the target. It’s the gamble of, do I let my unit activate this turn, or suffer a full on HE blast. Great informative video, however! Love the photos
The thing most people forget about the 360 arc mgs on WW2 tanks is the enemies infantry AT capability. Modern infantry can expect to fire AT missiles from beyond easy MG range but in WW2, AT weapons tended almost entirely to, at best, grenade throwing distance, and at worst magnetic mines you had to manually connect. A 360 MG is vital when your targets are that close. Imagine a modern version of the japanese infantry soldier with a bamboo pole and a antitank mine. You'd pray your infantry was doing their job.
Having an mg on top gives you open top special rule as far as im aware, and if thats the case, you will be destroyed if the enemy gets too close.
love the video. My favorite vehicle is sdkfz 251/21 Drilling. It is 3 light auto cannons 360 degree mounted on a Hanomag. This thing is an VET infantry killer. You are rolling 6 dice with -2 pen. It cost only 145 points a lot cheaper than the Wirbelwind. I take this vehicle in tournaments where the limit to Armor to +8. You will have to make your own model since War Lords doses not sell one.
Ausführung - it means version or model. "Ausfahrt" means "to exit:. ;)
thank you was just about to comment this , seeing as it made me facepalm
So it doesnt say version so often on the autobahn?
I love these videos! I have been playing for about a year and have been looking for a collected review like this. The graphics are great, they add lots of value for me :D
I do love the KUGELBLITZ. Awesome cannons, solid armor and it's not open topped. And it has an absolutely fantastic look
It was never mass produced
The panzer4 is one of my favorite tanks of the war and the wirble wind flack panzer just looks so cool
Really digging your vids, keep up the good work
Really enjoying the effort you put into these videos. Really learning a lot as I’m just starting out. Any chance you would consider videos like this for infantry models or support vehicles, artillery, etc per nation?
Excellent informative Video.. please keep them up
Good list, maybe not allways my choice, but overall, very good done and explained.
Im a fan of the Flammpanzer B2, light AT gun and Flamethrower. Spicy
I agree with your picks. Was expecting StuH and panzer 4 to be very high up.
Also expected to see little panzer 1, panzer 2/ panzer 38(t) recon model.
Super big tanks aren't worth the trouble.
Though only 1 tank per army is kind of restrictive.
Wait did I not put the Pz I in there? I thought I did. I know is mentioned the Luchs (Recce Pz II).
@@HollywoodWargaming pz38 (t) with the recon light autocannon has the exact same stats as pz 2.
Recon option does not give it recce though. At least I think it doesn't, it's not specified.
Medium howitzers can throw pins on anything up to a heavy tank if fired indirect. That D3 pins isn’t something to be ignored and can force heavy tanks to rally a lot. Yeah, a 6 would be required to deal superficial damage, but those D3 pins aren’t something to be ignored.
Thank you!
The Panzer III just got a second coax mmg for 5pts more in the latest faq... best panzer by far i'd say. 😃
I absolutely love the panzer III!!!!
Panzer 3 is the MVP, worth it every time.
I'd replace the Wirbelwind in this list with the armored Opel Blitz with the quad autocannons. Yes it has 7+ instead of 9+ Armour, but when it’s open topped that's fairly irrelevant, for 100 points cheaper.
I actually agree very much, those quad auto cannons are just nasty and getting them in as cheap as possible is the move
But the Opel Blitz isn't a Panzer...
Great video and the graphics are a big upgrade. One problem as a new player: I have no idea which of these are late, mid, or early war tanks. If I were to go early war which are available?
Early War: Panzer I, Panzer II, Panzerjager I
Mid: Panzer III L, Grille, StuH 42, Tiger I, Panzer IV in F2 version (same as H)
Late: Hetzer, Wirbelwind, Sturmtiger, Brummbar, Panzer IV H, Panzer II Luchs
I would have to agree with this. Just with a tag in the top corner saying early/mid/late would be amazing
@@HollywoodWargaming Some Panzer 4s and 3s where early war as well
@@xr8rgreat yeah, there were a few that took part in the invasion of France, right?
@@HollywoodWargaming damn, I can't run a Grille in my late war army?
I use panther and stug 3, what do you think about those 2 tanks and and advice can i get to use those??
Can you do a video of the different 251 Hanomags
Actually a great idea for a video! I’m in the middle of a move but I’ll look into it
Where did you get the spare track for the front underside plate of the tiger?
Are you planning to cover any K47 content?
Im surprised you didnt have the Panzer III Ausf F which has 2 Coax MMGs and a hull MMG for 18 shots and only 140pts
Show us the models yes we love them :))))
May I ask why you choose the Grille above the Panzer 1 SIG 33? Essentially the same vehicle, except for the crew manned MMG. The SIG hasn't got one but is 5 points cheaper. Since MMG won't be used at least 97% of the time, I'd say you could use the 5 points for something else. I probably would.
Love your video's!
Honestly I may have just missed the PzI Sig. Is it a campaign book unit? I don't recall it from the Armies of Germany book.
No it is in he Armies of Germany book. But there are so many Tanks and SPA/SPG's in there, I can imagine missing one easily. I have the v2 version of the book, perhaps that is the issue?
Sdkfz Drilling ... 75% of a Wirlbelwind, chopping infantry, but cheaper.
I use a kugelblitz. Not being open topped is quite nice.
Should I be looking to pay the 10 points to up armor the Panzer IV or the StuH?
I just started Bolt Action last Friday. Got the DAK, any tips and tricks before I build my army?
Yes! First of all, warlord has a DAK supply drop box set for September. These sets usually have a ton of stuff in them for the price. Could be a good jumping off point. After that, look into getting some light tanks and recce vehicles like the 222, Panzer 1 and 2, and Opelousas.
@@HollywoodWargaming Damn! I actually just bought some models so I’m good now. I got the starter kit which I think is a really good starting point. I have a 1LT, 4 infantry squads (1 veteran, 2, 8-mans, 2, 7-mans), AT rifle team, MMG, mortar, Flak 88 and Panzer 3.
@@HollywoodWargaming I ended up getting the supply drop! Thanks! Any predictions what might be in it?
Panzer 3 baby!!!
Hey, whats the general thought on the Stug III?
Which variant? B or G? They’re both decent but slightly overcosted IMO and rely on lucky dice to make their presence felt with their main cannons
What about taking a Tiger 1 with pintle mount and fuel shortage. You can open up with 3 MMGs for 18 shots towards the end of a turn so you don't get shot while open topped.
Panzer III after the latest faq... 24 mmg shots😆 2x coax mmg (faq), 1x hull, 1x pintle.
Where do you buy you models?
I actually use Tamiya 1/48 scale for most of my armor vehicles. Their kits are all over eBay and Amazon. Though I have other vehicles from Blitzkrieg Miniatures, Perry Minis, and Rubicon.
Panzer III was the most effective German tank in WW2
Do a canadians video
Canadians and other commonwealth armies are mostly just British in terms of rules for Bolt Action. Check out my British videos. They mostly apply.
Italy is a major faction as well
Historically speaking you are absolutely right. But my definition of "Major Faction" for Bolt action is the 5 nations included in the main rulebook who have their own individual "Armies of..." Book. They just get more representation in the game overall which is why I consider them "Major" while France and Italy are "Minor".
But I assure you Italy will be coming soon, along with France and the Finns.
Italy is a liability XD
I wouldn't say the Flankpanzer IV showed up regularly. Only 105 were made....
The Wirbelwind specifically or all other variants like the Mobelwagen and Ostwind also?
@@HollywoodWargaming The Wirbelwind. But only 44 Ostwind were built and 240 Möbelwagon..
Erwin Gaming Thats still a solid 400 flakpanzers built on the Pz IV chassis. I’m definitely not trying to make the case that Wirbelwinds were common, just giving some background on the German’s increasing emphasis on ground-to-air support as the war dragged on. Apologies if the wording made it seem like I was referring to Wirbelwinds specifically.
@@HollywoodWargaming Yes but four hundred, the Panzerwaffe had none of the Wirbels, which were an SS project. meanwhile the Panzerwaffe had 49000 tanks and 44000 other armoured vehicles (the Wirbelwind as a SPAAG fits here). 400 out of over 80000 is not a regular showing.
Erwin Gaming yes but many other armored vehicles were converted into AA countermeasures. Keep in mind “armored vehicles” includes things like Sdkfz 251s and 222s
I have not lost a match when I have used the Tiger 1.
I prefer Tiger 2s
Just incase it's not been brought up the Panzer II does have a coax MMG. Otherwise let's have some more videos lad
Do you really get two chances to go down to indirect fire? Isn’t only when the target is declared, like any other weapon?
Yes, once when they're firing at you and once when the templates are placed after hitting.
Sorry, but if you look at page 69 in the rule book under HE, it says “once the unit has gone down, roll to hit, place the template...” there is no further mention of giving a down order after being hit, and no mention of going down under the indirect fire rules on page 71.
@@scalehistoryslc819 Unfortunately my rule book was left at a hobby shop and I can't look over it right now, but I could have sworn reading that in there recently. It's possible I'm mistaken though.
Never the less, I think it being HE still motivates them to go down more so than small arms fire.
Hollywood Wargaming oh for sure! And as the person firing the HE, you only want them to be able to go down when you declare the target. It’s the gamble of, do I let my unit activate this turn, or suffer a full on HE blast.
Great informative video, however! Love the photos
@@scalehistoryslc819 Thanks! I need to get my book back and pour over that massive HE text section again..
Pewma
If you're American, its Pooma, pyyuma sounds awful if you aren't British.
Its the German pronunciation
@@HollywoodWargaming Valid argument!
AUSF = Ausfuhrung Trans: Model/version
What about tiger II
I like that tank
funny how you showed a Wespe but talked about a Grille
Only model I have.
@@HollywoodWargaming We cant find a Grille. Now I'm looking at a Wespe but cant find that either. Where is yours from?
Anyone know where I can get a Panzer 1?
I have 3 from Blitzkrieg Miniatures. Resin models that need cleaning but pretty good quality otherwise for the price.
Warlord games
Your local friendly 3d printer guy. If you throw him some coffee money he might give you a Maus on top as a freebie
Paint and glue miniatures reasonably priced lovely table top models
only german??????????????????????????????????
it about panzers those are only germen tanks