Rooney On Players Behavior After Sir Alex Ferguson Left
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- Rooney On Players Behavior After Sir Alex Ferguson Left
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The men left and the children stayed. Thats why United lost its way.
Facts
@@franciscomoreira9284word my bro
Not only that, major issue was scouts and board. Till Sir Alex and David Gill there Glazers didn't had to do the hard work to be the owner. After they left Glazers felt the pressure and they doesn't know anything about football how to run a club. In last 10 years they struggled and luckily VanGaal and Mourinho with their quality trained those deadwoods and brought silverware. Glazers treatment to managers brought player power. In post sir alex era ManUTD did some bad things which says how bad Glazers are see how they treated Romero and De Gea, DeGea will never play Football again, he lost love for the game.
The new managers never had any authority or cared enough to sort this out
Not really , Sir Alex Ferguson left .
Also mourinho mentioned when he was at chelsea , frank lampard at 22 was a leader and a man. ... social media and mainstream crap derailed the youth players
nah it's not just "social media" there are still great players
@@IaloneAmTHEChoppedONE but that’s also 60-70% part of the truth though isn’t it. For that quick few mins of “glory” people are doing absurd shitty stuffs and wasting their time.
@@10kurei not it's not bro, Lampard isn't a random player/man. He went to private school, he's very well educated and some people even say that he is a genius (150 iq) His dad was a player too and his uncle is Henry Redknapp...
"For that quick few mins of “glory” people are doing absurd shitty stuffs and wasting their time"
people weren't angels before social media, you should be happy because now you are capable to see their true nature lol there is probably a young guy like Lampard out there but he doesn't care about football
@@IaloneAmTHEChoppedONE i understand that. All the same what i meant was exposure to social media has aggravated the issue and more so because of the views and likes people tend to repeat or add more variations.
Ronaldo said it too that the seriousness of old generation is not the same with this current one.
Also, pep has the old school ( sir Alex like school) mentality. Maybe that's why Man City are serious.
I think all old coach are serious. Including anceloti
Ferguson would have committed war crimes if players tried that with him! 😂
He probably would've smashed the speaker and kicked a boot at all of them.
😅probably
Sold immediately, never to play again
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The International Criminal Court (ICC) would have sought an arrest warrant for Sir Alex like they have done against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
That’s Ronaldo was shocked when he came back. The culture that brought him up was gone.
Probably but Ronaldo complained about the club being the exact same with no new innovation, refurbishment or advancement
@Ghajahha and was he wrong? As a fan it was great to see. The club getting called out on the poor ownership under the glazers
@@kristoformontague3928 he wasn’t but I’m saying the winning culture was gone because nothing changed and everyone gave up
@@GhajahhaYea i remember they dragged Ronaldo for saying that, now here we are seeing Old Trafford literally leaking water through the roof lol. They owe him an apology
@@brownsugar9743
Ronaldo didnt say anything the fans didnt already know
But Ronaldo was rightfully sacked because of the interview
And they blame Mourinho for fighting the likes of pogba, lingard & Shaw.
Jose signed Pogba & other rubbish namely Alexis, Bailly, Fred, Lindelöf, Dalot, Lukaku & Mkhitaryan.
@@GholamFareedHe won the Europa league and came second in the PL with these guys.They didn’t respect Mourinho and never followed his instructions , the management didn’t stand with him in his failures and fans were against him.He would have Rebuilt Man U and has the potential to make these players to become their best.This club is having high expectations and thinking success comes overnight.Liverpool and Arsenal had faith in their manager that’s why now they are good after so many struggles ,failures and flop signings
@@adiravi3933 he has never been long enough at any club to rebuild anything!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Ole also came second with the same squad so nothing to brag about!!!
@@GholamFareed and how many trophies did Ole win?
@@abhishekbasu8694 precisely my point if Ole a coach with no credentials could finish second with Jose's squad what does that tell you about Jose's achievement???
Interesting how the disciplinarian managers, Mourinho/Van Gaal, were sacked in favor of the players.
Van Gaal deserved sacking though. Mourinho, however, makes absolutely no sense.
@@lucagorosito3715it does tho, toxic environment, no good style of play, not a good league position and probably lost the dressing room
@@KEVIn-dq6pmall managers "lose the dressing room" at United. If ineos let a manager run things like Abu Dhabi does, things might change. Until then nothing.
Overpaid loser players too
Players with rubbish attitude and mentality, and player power
Jose Mourinho said the players and staffs that were the main problem when he was at United were still there right now in am interview.
yes, rashford is definitely one of them
Gary didn't ask what the "main problem" was. He asked what the locker room was like.
@@forestcitytrivia9167And what do you think he meant by that question? Especially considering how much the club has fallen since then
Not anymore now
Jose is so good at brainwashing fools, Jose will say anything to cover up his failings. We all know Utd were a poorly run club but Jose was finished when he came to Utd he couldn’t even challenge for the title
Lingard, Pogba the clowns
Now rashford too
Rashford doesn't dance (in public). Also i'm not sure the money or fame is getting to him like these clowns. Ronaldo has been and gone. There's a new regime. A lot has changed since his debut season. His form hasn't helped him, I hope he finds regular football soon.
see where they are now.
You the clown. 🤡
Ya just look at him
They were dancing after losing to liverpool. Really just shows all!
Gota play da game laaa. We got brands, followers, likes - we winning outside the pitch laaa. We print da paper 🤑
Dont you think Reen should have taken over manutd
Once Sir Alex and all the United legends left, the team was a shambles. No real passion or discipline. Still like that now. Lingard is playing in South Korea nowadays.
Passion or discipline is irrelevant if the players lack the actual football talent
@@simplyballing1592no its not. Gattuso lacks of natural talent. He had all the rest. Henderson was a normal player, tracking like a dog and having the attitude. Same for Matuidi the french midfielder. Talent isnt even really the core...
@@MohamedElouarda-qk6ws Gattuso had Kaka, Seedorf, Nesta, etc... Henderson had Van Dijk, Mane, Salah, etc... it's ok to have a few passion merchants in the team but what actually wins you games & trophies is talent and quality. There's no escaping the secret ingredient of skill in football
@@simplyballing1592there were actually some team that were able to win despite the lack of talent like Greece 2004 and Leicester City. They won because of team effort and passion, not just because of talent and there were also team full of talent yet can't win anything like Tottenham.
@@gregoriuspascalis500 Didn't Leicester have the likes of Mahrez, Kante, Vardy in their lineup? Very talented players in my opinion. I'm not too knowledgeable about the Greece 2004 team. Anyway, I don't look for the extremely rare occurrences, then draw conclusions from that. Rather I look at what regularly occurs. I'm guided by statistics! If on 19 out of 20 occasions the teams that win possess huge amounts of talent should I only focus on the 1 out of 20 occasion when the team wasn't talented? Usually it's the teams that possess the talented payers that end up doing well. I'm sure you can nitpick the rare occasions when this wasn't the case but generally speaking talent significantly increases a team's chances of winning.
Total lack of disrespect for that dressing room.
*lack of respect
I meant what I said >_>
@@grahamwright504 you didn't say that tho bozo
Troll.
Liverpool fan
One man kept Manchester United grounded, kept it as a place of honour, respect for the history and traditions of the club no matter what Rooney and Carrick did when you are fighting a losing battle on the pitch and behind the scenes traditions mean nothing.
Everyone blames the managers at the club but is that fair, when you have clowns in the dressing room.
The young guys never had the leaders in the dressing room to get them to focus
Imagine fergie walking in and seeing lingard dancing after a defeat to Liverpool. He would do his nut.
The respect that we fans have for sir Alex ferguson and his players is amazing and will never go away.
Legends Never Die.
If sir Alex still there..Jesse won't play again for united..I mean it..what a disgrace..one of our own with no honour and a clown..I feel sad..the legacy ruins SOS so bad with that type of players..
People who danced their career ended too
It was like when the teacher is out sick and the substitute comes in
Good analogy!
Imagine dancing after losing to your arch rivals... I'd be fuming if it was Liverpool. It really was the end of the greatest era the PL has ever seen.
Respect as a Utd fan :)
@@leagreenall5972 Would be silly of me to downplay the dominance Man Utd had throughout almost two decades at the start of the PL. Rivalries aside, Sir Alex Ferguson is and was the best manager the Premier League has ever seen. Simple.
@@TottoHolm But I also remember when we were rubbish and 'to me' Bob Paisley was the Sir Alex of Liverpool and damn, though I hate Liverpool club, he was a legend - along with Clemence, Hansen, McDermott, Dalglish, Keegan, Souness and the like that along with Forest, dominated Europe at the time and flew the flag for England... its a pity the world that currently hates so much can't at least show respect when its due... hate Liverpool FC, but I don't hate the scousers ;)
I still believe that if mourinho had stayed in the club he would have repaired the damage that was caused after sir alex’s departure he already had glimpses of success when he won the europa & fa cup and reached second in a competitive epl season with an above average team
Really is that Jose has been fired 5 times in the last decade??? 😂😂😂
😮
Ole also finished second with Jose's team so nothing to shout about!!!
Also won everything in the domestic game.... 🤔 .. The Special One ;-]
@@GholamFareed it's actually something to shout about for both of them. Especially Solskjaer.
For a novice to the top level to finish in the top 4 with the notoriously difficult to steer Manchester United is very impressive. 3rd place even more so. But then to do it again the next season and finish 2nd after going top after Christmas...?
I'm still amazed and grateful for the only United team I've liked since SAF. The only one I would watch on Match of the day.
Mourinho saying finishing 2nd with that team was possibly his greatest achievement should show our fans how excellent the job Solskjaer did was. But sadly intelligence and critical thinking is rare amongst glory hunters.
@@DirtyJamesUK truth be told mate.
@@DirtyJamesUK only problem with Solksjaer was lack of tactics in the end. Otherwise he was a pretty good manager, and especially a good man manager ❤
They got paid either way. They didn't give a shit. United now lose 7 - 0 to Liverpool. No consequences whatsoever.
That is why Sir Alex Ferguson is legend.
sir alex not a legend..he is the gods of man utd
Listen to Rooney…listen to Rooney again. Look around you at what is happening in the world. Same. Football explains life.
Its not that deep bro
@@scythe0003
It is.
It's deep bro. The ''woke cultures'' is destroying the world.
Reason why countries in Afrique and others like Russia or China refuse to let in THAT thing.
I don't believe the US, UK,France and all the allies can win again a world war. Because their population won't stand a single day in the battlefield.
Dont be scared , last thing you want to do in lufe is stand still
@@timitri8yep…hip hop and the blacks did it
Muppets like Lingard and Pogba derailed the whole setup
Also Rashford
and where are they now?
@@Al-Brewsterpogdope flopped at Juventus while using performance enhancers and now banned for 4 years. Lingardinho playing in an unknown club in Korea after a year or 2. Does that answer your question?
@@Febreeze_Odor_Eliminator pogdope 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@IaloneAmTHEChoppedONE 😂😂😂😂
United fans have been needing this insight into the club's 'rebuilding period' for years nice to see some clarification, the basics of it is everything that could go wrong went wrong.
It’s that bloody hip-hop music again😂
You think
lmao
N music
Would you rather they listen to punk rock?
If Ferguson had to Coach the Current Man United Squad they’d put him into an Early Grave
False. He’d put them early to bed.
They would have Ferguson calling and apologizing to Roy Keane, Beckham, Stam etc by the evening.
You mean, He'd put Them in one...
🏴🦾
As soon as a lack of discipline permeates a team it’s all over. No more hardware.
Quality and discipline should be part of the recruitment process, the clowns they signed didn't do anything for the club anyway
All the foot soldiers left and all the fairies came in
Rooney just summed up why we are the club we are now compared to how we use to be breaks my heart man
Me too. I didn't see things like that in the time, but now I understand. Rooney and Carrick must have felt lonely being the only ones with the mentality and the awareness.
And when ronaldo criticized the United that young talent are not like what they were they listened to the senior players follow them, management exact same nothing change, people trolls him for criticizing what a shameless people
I grew up watching Fergie’s red army, it was a drastic 180 turn after he left. Player power has been rotting the club and the Glazers just give them high salaries for mediocre performances then impossible to sell.
That’s all you need to know about Lingaard and I expect a few others in the current locker room.
Rashford, Martial are must sell. Luke shaw has improved but better to sell him too. He’s injured after every 3-4 games. Get in a full back and a defender along with a striker and winger.
Jesse Lingard and Pogba ruined that dressing room
respect to carrick and Rooney. Miss both these figures at this club. Very hard to replace
How Sir Alex won the league in that last season with the team they had then was amazing. As Rooney says it was an ageing team and the youngsters coming through probably weren't at the level required to carry the club by themselves. Without Fergie there to build the next team it was always going to be an incredibly hard task. I think only Pep could've delivered sustainable success like he has at City.
Lack of professionalism
The attitude of many players today is shocking... Those guys were winners.. Football now treats footballers like kids..Treat those guys like chidren and they will behave like children... I miss real football.
Now City are winners, man united are losers. Let's be honest.
They had their chance in Jose Mourinho to save them.. but instead their board and fans chose to stick with the likes of Paul Pogba 😂
Pogba caught for steroids.
Lingard in Korea.
Shaw still injured.
Cleverly Headcoach at Watford.
Welbeck midtable.
Rashford couldn't buy a goal.
This is the United Core Jose/Van gaal were playing with 😂
as a Liverpool fan, honestly, I dont know how a team can fall so further from their glory, me I'd rather have a squad with half the quality of United's but double the attitude, it's just an embarrasment to see an historic club get teared down apart while managers or owners don't take drastic action, even as a rival, I just think about other United fans, and how they've seen such a downfall, it's just embarrasing
I hear you. I've seen it all from the mid 70's when we were relegated, to Sextons woes, to the wilderness up till Fergie took over and built from the bottom up... to what is now.... After Fergie left, the players took over and I have never seen Utd as bad as we are now - exacerbated due to social media.... I hate Liverpool, but I sure as respect the time of Dalglish, Keegan, McDermott, Hansen, Clemence, Souness etc and they along with Forest were the English power in Europe... Bob Paisley was the Sir Alex of his era.... again I hate Liverpool, but there is the respect there. THAT is the foundation that a lot of the Utd players didn't have when Fergie left.
The old United took their job seriously and performed soon as they touched the green. Then came the clowns who didn't take the club seriously and that mentality died, the backbone disintegrated and we were left with players who were in it for the fame, the paycheck and the status of playing for United.
I knew from the moment Ferguson retired and i stated it globally, "this is an end of an era". The United we have known as passed away that day, watch Sir Bobby throughout the years he knew it. I don't think i will ever see the real United again in my lifetime.
Honestly I'm ashamed at this United, this squad especially those that have been here awhile, they have no spine, no backbone, no drive, no soul to carry that lantern and keep this club beating.
I miss the good times, the legends now I'm dreading the day our father will leave us.
Bernardo Silva😂
I hope Rooney comes back to coaching. I support Arsenal but Rooney is one of the greatest players of his generation. One day I hope he's one of the best coaches of his generation.
Plymouth just lost first game of the season 4 -0.
This was the problem. I remember united being in 8th and lingard and pogba were still dancing around the dressing room like a bunch of fuckwits. Honestly made my blood boil.
This is what i fear will also happen to liverpool. Klopp's figure is difficult to replace 😢
nah, there are no kids like pogba in liverpool so everything is fine. we just need alonso.
That united team was aging the new generation of united that should have thrived the future of the club wasnt promising apart from januzaj who didnt fullfil his potential and later on shaw who had an excessive amount of injuries that ruined his career
Klopp already set Liverpool up for the future
We have too many leaders in our dressing room to allow our winning culture to leave out the door with Klopp. Liverpool FC has too much pedigree from top to bottom of the club. Klopp has left us in the best possible place for our future.
Utd had (still have) crap infrastructure, poor owners and a weak squad when fergie left.
Liverpool have none of those problems.
And look where Lingard ended up right now, and where Pogba ended up. Pathetic
@@user-ur9es1wl2uyou make a fair point about the constant media criticism affecting someone’s game, but I think it’s important to mention with Xhaka that even with all that he was still always loved by his managers. Even at the worst of times under Wenger, Emery, Arteta he was still always fit and was played every game. Not quite the same story as a Pogba or Lingard.
Pogba won the wc he already had a great carreer and why dont u say look at what man u achieve since pogba left ?? Man u is a graveyard for players.
"Some call it psycology, I call it management"
Sir Alex Ferguson
Once Sir Alex left the discipline left too, that's what Ten Hag tries to bring back but people don't see it (ofc that Ronaldo scenario was weird, which I don't agree with) but I think that if Ten Hag will have a full squad without injuries he can bring Man Utd back
It also happens outside football, such as office environment, which also become like this.
On the bright side, life is more fun and motivated, sad fact, easy to falter during difficult time.
Yea people act like football is a prison where men stays tougher to survive everyday its been always same everywhere
SAF's greatest failure was his not setting United up for the future after he left.
Nice one
It starts at the top. United has spent money just not on the right players.
It wasn't his failure, the failure started when Glazers bought United, they loaded debt on the club and were not investing... .
SAF himself wasn't getting the Players he was going for, likes of Gareth Bale, Modric, David Silver, but his experience was able to hold things together, even attracting some quality players like Van persie, the downward spiral started from Glazers' take over, but everything fell apart when Sir Alex left.
Not failure.. Its a smart move from SAF, He doesn't want any successor to surpass his great achievements.
Ferguson and the Glazers
Grew up watching the first Man Utd games here in the states. Became a fan quickly and even a bigger fan when Chicharito came on I think he could have done more if SAF stayed but sadly that wasn't the case. Like someone said the men left and the kids stayed which just made the problems bigger. There will never be another SAF but hopefully there will be better times soon. GGMU
Rooney in a different interview says van gaal was the best coach he played under! Just because Fergie was mean to him, he says that, but here he agrees he was on his last legs and the attitude wasn't there in the united team after fergie left
Pogba and Lingard, absolute disgrace both of them. The higher ups who threw money at them are just as bad too.
Wow, I never knew these nuggets, I hate United but man could you imagine this carry on happening with Roy and co in the dressing room
The fans aren’t blind. That’s why these players struggle
Lingard pogba rashford sancho
All that brand BS
And look at their careers now, floundering
@BillBagBargensonsBarger let’s get him to 12 goals then 😂🤷🏻♂️
@BillBagBargensonsBarger yeah I agree, if he stays that long
@BillBagBargensonsBarger 🤦🏻♂️
Think the biggest thing was he demanded respect and made sure he was paid more than the players.
Which is how it should be.
How any player gets paid more than a manager is crazy.
Ten Hag is bringing that back, just give him time
I agree with previos, MEN left and the children took over football in general, that and VAR has destroyed most beautifule game in the world. No passion, no blood, no tears, everything is just ok…
VAR best thing since sliced bread.
You lose Giggs, ferdinand, vidic ,Rooney and gain a bunch of dancing tik tok girly men who have they hair cut every 3 days🤣🤣
SAF ran a tight ship and sadly the new generation of players didn't experience that, so when they got similar managers like LVG, Mourinho etc there were massive problems and clashes between the players and managers, the players started thinking they were bigger than the club and this lack of discipline and poor attitude is what caused them to fall from grace. When SAF was in charge no one was bigger than the club or manager. Everyone fell in line.
Mentality is just as important as physical talent.
We were Social media FC at the time
That’s the difference, Rooney played for the badge lingard and pogba only interested in the money
As a leeds fan I love to see united struggle but I can honestly say its a shame that such a big powerful football institution has been totally derailed by such poor management from above and such poor respect for a club and its history from players after money and social media fame......The morales in football have changed and its spoiling our beloved game. Respect to all clubs world wide.....BUT.....ALAW ❤
How can anyone be dancing and happy the next day after a defeat il never understand that
The youth messed things up cus they wanted a chilling life. The whole social media shabang. Jesse, pogba, jadon,
I’ve always said this was the issue and glad Rooney has confirmed it
Miss you sir Alex Ferguson😢😢😢😢😢
Jose once said players now a days are brats at 23. At 23 frank lampard was a man.
And now it’s happened to Chelsea 💀
These new and upcoming players don’t have the passion and drive like these old school heads. They have skill and talent no doubt but attitude and mindset wins you games
You only have to look at where Lingard and Pogba's career has gone to see how they killed that club
Imagine Keane in that changing room
Rooney should have a role at that club . He is one of the last real old school minds in the British game as it is now . He’s grown up over the years and would be a great addition in the staff
Same thing that happened to barca, heck perhaps ac milan and will eventually happen to man city. That man utd was legendary
imagine dancing after a lose, when you got this legend on your team.
That's why Lindgard is now playing in South Korea. 😂
RIP MANCHESTER UNITED 1878- 9 May 2013,
Kids these days man.... social media has ruined the attention span, the focus and the grounding of players.
Was the same in the Lakers when Kobe left. Young kids didn't get what it meant to play there.
I can see Pogba and lingard dancing 😂😂😂😂
Keane would have had destroyed the radio and the dressing room would have had been quiet
Youth is important but you need older players with the ultimate winning mentality and discipline
If they would make a team from 90s versus todays best eleven, I would see 90s footballers as our worlds savors. There are good players today but man...
Although Bayerns fall was never even close to that of United, even at a club of the caliber of Bayern the story went similar.
Robben, Ribery, Rafinha, Alaba, Boateng, Thiago and Martinez all retired or left the club around 2019/20 and you instantly felt a drop in quality from the 2021 season onwards.
The only ones left are Neuer & Muller with some generation overlapping players like Coman and Kimmich but it´s not the same kind of football Bayern fans were used to from the 2010´s era.
Its turning into the right direction and we will soon be back or close to our Robbery days but what Rooney says has alot of value: People always expect things to stay the same but its the people, the players in the club that "are" the club in that era.
And if the players just aren´t good enough, the fans & the manager are rarely to blame, even though especially the manager is the worst people blame ...
The winners are gone and the losers stayed, that's why Manchester United is way it is today
And look at the trajectory of players like Jesse Lingard and Pogba, compared to that previous generarion. Didn't take being a pro footballer seriously and so quickly dropped from those heights.
Look where lingard and pogba are now🤣🤣🤣🤣 stupid is an understatement.
They arr old tho? 31 soom 32... so
The kids took over the kindergarten!!
Pogba and Lingard would not have fucked about if Roy Keane was that radio would have got smashed to pieces
It’s when united signed players that are not quite European that’s when it all fell apart. Jesse lingegard , Pogba , Rashford, martial , lukakau. You see the theme
Most of the best teams that win are to non european, you see the theme, best footballers in the world are not british
And that first part is the main reason it fell away so fast under Moyes. He never had a chance. Fergie got a good 20% extra out of those players for one final season. He wouldn’t have been able to do it again. And Moyes was given no money to replace them - then every manager since has spent a fortune achieving nothing!
Ten Hag quiere recuperar ese ADN, un United agresivo, que le duele una derrota. Soy de sudamérica, llevo 20 años viendo al United, creo que este será un buen año, un punto de inflexión.
Standards are so important
Apparently lingard didn’t listen. He had only himself to blame for his man utd career 😂
Lingard catching strays lmao 😂
Also those kids are being payed way too much, in the first month they are already millionaires, earning way more than an engineer or a doctor, thats ridiculous, they are just football players.
I remember around 2016/17 when Man United was going to play West Ham away and their bus was kinda attacked by West Ham fans. Lingard thought he should take a "funny" video of him in the bus crying out for his mum and posted it on his social media accounts. As soon as I saw that I just knew he wasn't going to be a top footballer for United.
Men of integrity got replaced by total airheads
What is interesting, Gennaro Gattusso said the same thing about AC Milan, and referred to El Sharaawy to be more interested in his haircut than Focusing on the training and game. But this could be what evolution and time has done, socialmedia has been good but also affected the sport negative.
This is were you need a manager to not take one bit of s### and get rid of these toxic players or not ever sign then in the first place. Lingard, Sancho, pogba, wellbeck ...f######
I don't think there is a problem with discipline, coaches like Ancelotti or Guardiola, or Klopp or Simeone seem to find their spot mentally. Maybe a bad pick of players for United.
Nani is the biggest example
He was the next Cristiano. But lack of quality guidance that Cristiano got was missing
Cristiano was born a fighter, Nani wasn‘t.
Nani was probably more talented than Ronaldo. But as you said. He wasn't keen to make all the efforts to get there. He was happy with what he had and never reached the top top level
The fear of sir Alex was something else
Pogba was the catalyst in the downfall of that club
No, it was Lingard and his stupid dancing. Pogba was a winner at Juve ntus.
@@mursyidomar6995 Carried by Vidal, Marchisio, and Pirlo when Serie A was at its weakest.