Hello there, I was there too !! Thanx for this post !! The thing was : there was a blind boy in the audience (right next to me) with his mother and the boy was constantly commenting to her about what he could hear . “Now he plays on the HH…“ and so on. THIS is what made him upset. Vinnie could not understand WHAT was said and the Boy could not SEE that Vinnie got a problem (with him) VERY ambarressing Situation. I really love Vinnie , but I have to say : Back in those days, I exprerienced a whole lot of „explosive“ Situations with him like that during clinics . That´s how he could be back in the past….And yes , there were some outrageous persons in the audience too sometimes !! I remeber one person yelling in Amsterdam „Hey Vinnie, what about your left Hand? It sucks ….(What???)
Thanks for this information! This is a classic situation of misunderstanding / missing communication about the facts.I will update my description accordingly.
I love Vinnie's playing and consider his 1989 album Secrets with Allan Holdsworth to be one of the best fusion albums of all time. Here is my Vinnie story: I remember the 1989 International Drummer Meeting in Koblenz, Germany (the year the very young Sonny Emory, Jojo Mayer and Chester Thompson and others also performed there). After Vinnie demonstrated some fives and sevens shifts, a prankster in the audience called out: "That's all?" Vinnie immediately got pissed off and admonished him: "One more remark like that and I'm out of here!!" Totally embarrassing, especially because the audience had serenaded him with song at the beginning, since it was Vinnie's 33rd birthday.... Someone defused the situation and shouted: "It was a joke, a joke!" Back then I had the feeling that there was a super talent with Asperger's syndrome sitting on stage. Strange. NOW I understand that Vinnie is a supersensitive human being that just wants to be treated respectfully. Nothing wrong with that.
Yes you have too please and I lived in Amsterdam for a while and was always going back as much as I could especially I'n the older days like ah in 2000 .I had my Son born there in the Hospital and it was wild to say the least you could smoke yi brain's out in the Hospital and they can tell you how tall you're child will be at full growing time and you say no way to tall they can give I guess my wife some kind of shot and that will do it exactly to that desired height , give maybe an inch or two!!! And I was able to help deliver my son and I was able to do alot more ,my son Bastiaan was breached meaning upside down and his shoulder,s were and are wide,He,s a monster ,big thick bones still came out like 6'4 and still growing ! I wish that I had his bone structure and more ! He,s definitely a Dutch Boy and is strong as an ox with perfect posture, size 13 shoe and his knees and wrists and shoulders neck head , everything is thick and he,s so strong and a very good looking kid had All bright blonde hair and bright blue eyes. Very good looking and didn't get it from me younger yes now, no .Wife stunning smile and face and blue eyes too , dark tanning skin not me anymore. My son yes and my daughter, same thing tall beautiful smile and beautiful eyes . Last thing they both have thick b hair and so does my ex wife too but anyway yes some bars or Amsterdam in general ,alot of sarcastic people's in general but all solid people too, definitely!!!
Ps I remember Tony Williams and several other musicians who would not take any talking period they would stop and say say something ,yell at them whatever period
I was so excited to find this clinic. Thank you so much for posting! Unfortunate though, we all came to hear Vinnie, not some narcissistic jackass in the audience chatter the WHOLE time. I was quite annoyed, so I can’t imagine what it must have been like to be in the room, let alone be Vinnie and endure the tremendous disrespect.
Thank you so much for sharing this. It's precious for those of us who can't go back in time to hear Vinnie's awesome clinic solo playing, and his articulate descriptions of what he does and how he does it. I've not heard Vinnie get angry before, and I think the guy must have had a crazy schedule when he was doing clinic tours and was probably extremely tired as well. All things considered I think he was very contained.
oh there are plenty of stories about him losing his shit and throwing tantrums... he's mellowed out quite a bit though in his older years. he's a very humble and kind person these days
Some people have no manners. Really disrespectful to audibly chatter while somebody is trying to present his work like that. I can't bear to listen to most drum solos these days but Vinnie is on another level and is an artist in the true sense of the word. He's not what I would call a 'pattern player' like so many other drummers I could mention, as good as they are. Just pure creativity and flow.
A lot of the magic comes from the mind he uses . He has complete freedom knowing always were he is . How to get to really understand his concepts is checking out the book The Unreel drum book and working on all the rythem scales in the beginning of the book to really understand the feel of polyrhythms and polymeric playing. Then you can really dive into his mind and DE mystify a lot of what hes doing.
I never considered the “Tony Williams” moments in Vinnie’s playing. Just so insane - musical and expressive with chops from the almighty to play what he’s feeling.
This is friggin thank you so much for doing this stuff for us .i m totally grateful cor it and its one of the best! It's got a grovin feel right from the beginning or wants to Vinny,s got pat, can't spell it i to shoot snd everything ! Not good but f it for now
I'm only now understanding what a giant Dom Famularo was. When a guy like Vinnie can go to him for help of some kind.. and I bet he was the same with every single student. Amazing
I think the book he is talking about is "Rudimental Jazz: A Musical Application of Rudiments to the Drumset" (www.amazon.com/dp/1540060381/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_A5YA7XAHBWNV05DW01XY)
Just when I thought I owned every Vinnie Clinic. I attended a London Clinic with Vinnie as the main attraction, Most of the questions to Vinnie were about his Zappa days, All of a sudden Vinnie had had enough and said " Chad are you in the audience" he wasn't obviously but you could sense Vinnie's frustration with all these Zappa questions being fired at him. I think it might have had something to do with how Vinnie & Zappa parted.
@@fitzpat Everyone in Zappa's band were paid musicians. One day Vinnie went up to Zappa and asked him "Frank could I have a wage increase? we don't have to tell the rest of the band", Zappa replied "Let me think about it Vinnie". A few day's go by when Zappa calls Vinnie over and say's "Vinnie, I've been thinking about your wage increase, Your fired but don't tell the rest of the band".
@@jonathanharrington7950 classic Zappa! It was always toted as Frank giving his blessing to take more recording opportunities. How did I never hear this!?!
@@jonathanharrington7950 Vinnie has never said he was fired. He says he went to Zappa and told him he wanted to stay home and try to break in to the session scene. He said it was hard to do when he was on the road so much.
Did you read the description? There is someone in the audience chattering all the time which he receives as being disrespectful because he is sharing valuable information and he expects people to either listen or leave the place. I fully understand his frustration. As he says - when he was a young drummer, nobody shared anything - he had to figure it out all by himself and he is showing 50 different ways how to use flams around the drums. Paying attention is not too much to ask for. That's what ticked him off.
@@FStDrummer Yes, I did read the description ... "angry at someone in the audience" was not clear ... I was wondering what the audience member had done to tick him off ... I did not want to assume that it was as simple as "the audience member was talking too much". Obviously, I was not there, but Vinnie's response seems a little extreme as a "first response" to a loud audience member. Perhaps he was having a bad day.
This is seriously the best drumming I have ever heard
You haven’t heard my drumming yet!
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I love this! Thanks for posting. Vinnie is endlessly musical and inventive. I'll be listening to this over and over gain. Pure gold.
This is like Gold to me! Thanks a lot for sharing this!
Hello there, I was there too !! Thanx for this post !! The thing was : there was a blind boy in the audience (right next to me) with his mother and the boy was constantly commenting to her about what he could hear . “Now he plays on the HH…“ and so on. THIS is what made him upset. Vinnie could not understand WHAT was said and the Boy could not SEE that Vinnie got a problem (with him)
VERY ambarressing Situation. I really love Vinnie , but I have to say : Back in those days, I exprerienced a whole lot of „explosive“ Situations with him like that during clinics . That´s how he could be back in the past….And yes , there were some outrageous persons in the audience too sometimes !! I remeber one person yelling in Amsterdam „Hey Vinnie, what about your left Hand? It sucks ….(What???)
Thanks for this information! This is a classic situation of misunderstanding / missing communication about the facts.I will update my description accordingly.
I love Vinnie's playing and consider his 1989 album Secrets with Allan Holdsworth to be one of the best fusion albums of all time.
Here is my Vinnie story:
I remember the 1989 International Drummer Meeting in Koblenz, Germany (the year the very young Sonny Emory, Jojo Mayer and Chester Thompson and others also performed there).
After Vinnie demonstrated some fives and sevens shifts, a prankster in the audience called out:
"That's all?"
Vinnie immediately got pissed off and admonished him:
"One more remark like that and I'm out of here!!"
Totally embarrassing, especially because the audience had serenaded him with song at the beginning, since it was Vinnie's 33rd birthday....
Someone defused the situation and shouted:
"It was a joke, a joke!"
Back then I had the feeling that there was a super talent with Asperger's syndrome sitting on stage.
Strange.
NOW I understand that Vinnie is a supersensitive human being that just wants to be treated respectfully.
Nothing wrong with that.
@@Frank1979Zappa LOL
Yes you have too please and I lived in Amsterdam for a while and was always going back as much as I could especially I'n the older days like ah in 2000 .I had my Son born there in the Hospital and it was wild to say the least you could smoke yi brain's out in the Hospital and they can tell you how tall you're child will be at full growing time and you say no way to tall they can give I guess my wife some kind of shot and that will do it exactly to that desired height , give maybe an inch or two!!! And I was able to help deliver my son and I was able to do alot more ,my son Bastiaan was breached meaning upside down and his shoulder,s were and are wide,He,s a monster ,big thick bones still came out like 6'4 and still growing ! I wish that I had his bone structure and more ! He,s definitely a Dutch Boy and is strong as an ox with perfect posture, size 13 shoe and his knees and wrists and shoulders neck head , everything is thick and he,s so strong and a very good looking kid had All bright blonde hair and bright blue eyes. Very good looking and didn't get it from me younger yes now, no .Wife stunning smile and face and blue eyes too , dark tanning skin not me anymore. My son yes and my daughter, same thing tall beautiful smile and beautiful eyes . Last thing they both have thick b hair and so does my ex wife too but anyway yes some bars or Amsterdam in general ,alot of sarcastic people's in general but all solid people too, definitely!!!
Ps I remember Tony Williams and several other musicians who would not take any talking period they would stop and say say something ,yell at them whatever period
Insane.
wonderful clip.. wow...special...sometimes I dont expect much from these randomly recorded clinics somewhere but this is great..
I was so excited to find this clinic. Thank you so much for posting! Unfortunate though, we all came to hear Vinnie, not some narcissistic jackass in the audience chatter the WHOLE time. I was quite annoyed, so I can’t imagine what it must have been like to be in the room, let alone be Vinnie and endure the tremendous disrespect.
Thank you so much for sharing this. It's precious for those of us who can't go back in time to hear Vinnie's awesome clinic solo playing, and his articulate descriptions of what he does and how he does it. I've not heard Vinnie get angry before, and I think the guy must have had a crazy schedule when he was doing clinic tours and was probably extremely tired as well. All things considered I think he was very contained.
oh there are plenty of stories about him losing his shit and throwing tantrums... he's mellowed out quite a bit though in his older years. he's a very humble and kind person these days
Some people have no manners. Really disrespectful to audibly chatter while somebody is trying to present his work like that. I can't bear to listen to most drum solos these days but Vinnie is on another level and is an artist in the true sense of the word. He's not what I would call a 'pattern player' like so many other drummers I could mention, as good as they are. Just pure creativity and flow.
thank you so much for this!
Fantastic. Thank you so much!!
A lot of the magic comes from the mind he uses . He has complete freedom knowing always were he is . How to get to really understand his concepts is checking out the book The Unreel drum book and working on all the rythem scales in the beginning of the book to really understand the feel of polyrhythms and polymeric playing. Then you can really dive into his mind and DE mystify a lot of what hes doing.
or checkout gary chaffee's books.
I never considered the “Tony Williams” moments in Vinnie’s playing. Just so insane - musical and expressive with chops from the almighty to play what he’s feeling.
I was addicted to "half-time" but now I have a new drug.
Number one of all times. No doubt.😎🥁🤘
This is friggin thank you so much for doing this stuff for us .i m totally grateful cor it and its one of the best! It's got a grovin feel right from the beginning or wants to Vinny,s got pat, can't spell it i to shoot snd everything ! Not good but f it for now
I'm only now understanding what a giant Dom Famularo was. When a guy like Vinnie can go to him for help of some kind.. and I bet he was the same with every single student. Amazing
My thoughts exactly.. I never realized Dom was such a titan, Vinnie was on fire during those years with Sting, rest in peace
@@SXI96 Vinnie died?
Vinnie Coliauya didnot die it was Dom Famoularo that passed a little while ago
@@mjauthegreat sorry for your loss
Vinnie never went to Dom to talk about drums. It’s almost insulting to say that about Vinnie.
the spivack stuff at 56:00 ish is absolutely brilliant and very rare insight into that technique method
This is new! Finally!!!
That was the inspiration years....
FSt-Drummer - you must've been excited to have asked vinnie a question, him taking the time to answer it AND to have it recorded.
well done!
Oh yes, indeed. But actually I only really became aware of that much later.
without limits...
Fantastic gift!!! Thanks!
You are welcome
🎉thanks
Gold!
Thank you!!!!
My pleasure
Fantastic, Vielen vielen dank . Subscribed of course.
Sehr gerne!
Incredible....
Love 28:33 … same idea as Against the Clock solo
Did the clinic take place in Frankfurt's „Sinkkasten“ back then? I remember seeing Vinnie there in the early 90s.
Honestly, I'don't remember. It's possible.
❤️🔥
1:19:10 is insane. One hand, one foot.
.... Hi, I'm Vinnie, and for the next 10 seconds I'm going to play a Billion notes for you, so listen up!" 🤣
Is anyone knows the book whick is vinnie mentioned in 1.07.24 about "rudiments"
I think the book he is talking about is "Rudimental Jazz: A Musical Application of Rudiments to the Drumset" (www.amazon.com/dp/1540060381/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_A5YA7XAHBWNV05DW01XY)
@@FStDrummer Thank you so much🙏🙌
🙏😮
Thanks for posting this! Incredible stuff! What kit is he using here? Yamaha or Gretsch ? I believe he was still endorsing Yamaha at this time in 1993
Yes, I remember him playing on a Yamaha.
1:16:30 - we have devolved as a species... there'll never be another Vinnie imho.
Just when I thought I owned every Vinnie Clinic.
I attended a London Clinic with Vinnie as the main attraction,
Most of the questions to Vinnie were about his Zappa days,
All of a sudden Vinnie had had enough and said " Chad are you
in the audience" he wasn't obviously but you could sense Vinnie's
frustration with all these Zappa questions being fired at him.
I think it might have had something to do with how Vinnie & Zappa
parted.
How did they part …please tell
@@fitzpat Everyone in Zappa's band were paid musicians.
One day Vinnie went up to Zappa and asked him "Frank could I have a
wage increase? we don't have to tell the rest of the band", Zappa replied
"Let me think about it Vinnie". A few day's go by when Zappa calls Vinnie
over and say's "Vinnie, I've been thinking about your wage increase,
Your fired but don't tell the rest of the band".
@@jonathanharrington7950 wow following him since the nineties and never knew that …thanks
@@jonathanharrington7950 classic Zappa! It was always toted as Frank giving his blessing to take more recording opportunities. How did I never hear this!?!
@@jonathanharrington7950 Vinnie has never said he was fired. He says he went to Zappa and told him he wanted to stay home and try to break in to the session scene. He said it was hard to do when he was on the road so much.
Jesus, Mary and Holy St Joseph……thank you
You are welcome. In case you are interested in some drum charts of Vinnie's playing: musescore.com/fst-drummer-mainz
I don't understand the part at 1:16 where he seems really upset. Does anyone know what seemed to tick him off?
Did you read the description? There is someone in the audience chattering all the time which he receives as being disrespectful because he is sharing valuable information and he expects people to either listen or leave the place. I fully understand his frustration. As he says - when he was a young drummer, nobody shared anything - he had to figure it out all by himself and he is showing 50 different ways how to use flams around the drums. Paying attention is not too much to ask for. That's what ticked him off.
@@FStDrummer Yes, I did read the description ... "angry at someone in the audience" was not clear ... I was wondering what the audience member had done to tick him off ... I did not want to assume that it was as simple as "the audience member was talking too much".
Obviously, I was not there, but Vinnie's response seems a little extreme as a "first response" to a loud audience member. Perhaps he was having a bad day.
Got chopps ,,?? Dam soon I'll want to play or now ! ,, Gallons of coffee and piles of sugar
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