Hey guys! Thanks for all of the response to the video, I didn't expect it to take off like it did. One thing I made a huge mistake on is battery voltage. Milwaukee's 18V nominal voltage is the same as Bauer's 20V "max" voltage, and I only thought they were different because I fell for their sneaky marketing. Thanks to all who corrected me on this issue. If you enjoyed the video, please subscribe to us! We do all sorts of videos, from projects and builds to reviews and comparisons, and we never stick to one topic. Thanks again!
I use Hercules for work in the shipyard does everything I need it to do my whole tool line up is herc to and I never have regretted it plus batteries and fucking cheap ........
I use Bauer drills everyday for 6 hours a day and they never gave me any trouble I dropped them off tables and they still work fine I build stuff for Lowe's and home Depot and these drills performance is too notch Bauer all the way
I love the bauer drills I have both drill and driver and I owned them for 2yrs they never gave me any issues I use it every day at work I do construction
Same, I own 7 pieces of Bauer battery tools and think they work great for my through out the week projects. Thought about buying a bigger circ saw, but the bauer does everything I need, without fail so far.
I agree with you, I've had drill and impact for 2+/- years now no issues I do construction, keeps up just fine. Not saying baby it but don't treat it like trash and just take care of it, will keep working
I have bauer tools in my box too..... I do demolition (gutting old buildings before the bulldozer comes so we make money from the copper/iron)had the impact for about 6 months now and have used it for everything from taking down electrical boxes to removing the tires from a forklift (with bauer impact socket adapters).......
We all know Milwaukee will smoke it any ways lol, but it's pretty close,,, but ask any racer, any real racer, it don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning ,,😎😎😎😎😎😎 (f&f)
@@josefelix4152 Better to have run what you brung, than to hold out and not run anything. Like a k24 vs an LS, the LS may be quicker, but not by much and the K24 is way cheaper to build.
I like your unbiased, honest and fair opinion in this review. When I started doing maintenance, I was using DeWalt. Later in my career I used Bosch for about a year and then I was introduced to Milwaukee because it was on sale. I have since stuck with that brand, but the Bauer does seem to give it a run for the money. Obviously, they are not on the same level, but it’s still a great tool. You just earned yourself a follower! Thank you and God bless you!!!
Just bought the Baur for $65. Home projects it’s perfect and can’t beat the price. If you want the name brand for 3-4 times the price, that’s individual choice.
I got a new Milwaukee m18 gen 3 Fuel 2853, ebay Vanon 5 Ah battery and generic charger for about $145 - all new and all readily available. I think it's the best deal overall because the Gen 3 is powerful enough to use as an impact wrench for most things, and if you don't put the battery through a ton of cycles then the Vanon will do just fine for a long time. Thank you for the comparison video! Cheers!
The bauer will spin the blades right off my 60 inch zero turn mower deck. That's good performance from a 1/4" impact driver. All I need. Mine was a gift a couple years ago.
Just bought the Bauer. Your review is very evenhanded. After reviewing your comparison, I agree with your findings and as a casual user, the Bauer would still be my choice. I’ve purchased expensive brands in the past and the batteries typically fail before I put much time on. As a casual user, it’s cheaper just to buy a complete replacement than a new battery. If I was still in construction, Milwaukee all day.
In the past the batteries were nicad or NiMhi and thus were affected by "memory" if not constantly used and charged over and over. These new ones are all lithium ion and that issue is gone. Just sayin
I agree with a lot of what you said, especially at the end. I’m not using Milwaukee tools every day to make money anymore. My batteries were really on their way out. I sold them all used ranging from 3-5 years old and replaced them with brand new Bauer Bauer tools. How long they last is to be determined.
Don't count on the batteries ! I bought my first and last Bauer battery. I used cordless tools all day long on railroad . We beat them to death . Took reps sold us every major brand out there .They were all decent . The Metabo was best ,it out lasted everything 2 to 1. Milwaukee's were always solid too! That being said my Bauer 20 v has good torque but battery lasts about like a 14 volt nicad. The 30 day warranty HF gives flat out pisses me off. I think the cordless tools are where I step away from HF .
18 volts and 20 volts are actually the same, just how they are measured. I do like Harbor Freight, but I bought a Milwaukee 12 volt set, drill and impact with two batteries. The Hercules said to compare with the Milwaukee, so I did. The week I bought it, the Milwaukee was cheaper!
The newer Bauer tools, more and more of them are getting to being brushless motors. I buy Bauer brushless tools and they're absolute workhorses. I put mine through hell and they soldier through it without any complaints. Absolutely great value for the money.
Another important factor: My Harbor Freight store manager ALWAYS TAKES CARE OF ME. The price, quality and SERVICE of Bauer/HFT is really hard to beat if you have a store with a manager like mine. :)
Considering the fact that now Harbor freight makes a brushless Bauer impact driver for 40 bucks bare tool I will stick with that and just so you know, I don’t know if you knew about this but they now make a 5ah and 8ah for the Bauer Bauer is really stepping up their game right now
@@FormulaJake Well it's just the difference between nominal and peak voltage. A lithium battery has a nominal voltage of 3.6v, there are 5 cells in series for those tools so 3.6 x 5 = 18v. The peak voltage though is 4.2v per cell, 4.2 x 5 = 21 but they just call it 20. They're exactly the same, possibly even the same brand 18650 cells, just differently advertised.
I was looking to see if someone mentioned that, right after he said the Bauer was a higher voltage. tool. 20v max is max of the batteries on the charger. Marketing scheme black and decker used to make their dewalt crap seem better, ( don't really know if they started it, but it does seem like something black and decker would do?) Milwaukee doesn't need to do the fake marketing strategy; their customers are smart enough not to fall for the battery is stronger while in the charger wool. That's why they still just say what it is 18v. Keep it real and honest, the opposite of black and decker, who will put together crap tools in a sale kit, put dewalt name on it, so people think they are getting a high end tool at a great price; when they were taken, buying a lower quality tool than offered on the shelf with low end batteries. Then someday they may waist their time and find out why dewalt warranty service has a 1 1/2 star rating. My emotions of rip offs, took me way off topic. Sorry
Hi, Milwaukee is and always will be top of the line quality tools that stood the test of time, Bauer is new to the market and it’s holding up so far for me, just my opinion, , Bob,
The current model Bauer is brushless, has three speed ranges, and is variable speed on the trigger pull. If your drill has a bluetooth surveillance feature, then I can probably track where you are and track how many screws you drive in each location...
I just got the m12 fuel set with the drill, I love Milwaukee I usually buy Milwaukee and matco infinium depending on the price but I don't but other brands, I still have my first Milwaukee m12 red from 7 years ago and the batteries just died lol so I got this fuel set and extra battery for the old ones,
Thanks for the video. I feel like the Bauer line up, even though it is a 20v line up should be compared against the Milwaukee 12v tools. The reasoning is the pricing. Bauer drill 90$ vs Milwaukee 12v drill 120$.
For the price difference BAU ER seems to be a good choice as much as it stands for being that much cheaper and they do have five amp hour batteries for them
I have become a big Bauer fan for their battery set of tools. The price is right and they get the job done as a home and DIYer. I'm not a contractor and with as good as this cheaper brand is I don't see the need for something 3x the cost. Once you buy into the battery set there are so many other tools on that line as well that continue to save you money. Can't go wrong here! If I was a contractor I'd get contractor grade tools or at least Hercules brand. Else, it's perfect
Agreed with your evaluation, for around the home, Bauer all the way, but for constant use/making a living, Milwaukee all the way.. Using your impact drive for daily use vs once and a while on the weekends,, Bauer...
Hey everyone Just throwing a little information out there for those of you who do not know you can buy an adapter to run the DeWalt 20v battery packs on your Bauer impact. I think I gave around 20 bucks for mine on eBay. I'm using and DeWalt 5AH on mine now and love it . Yes they do get hot with continue use when they are brand new because the brushes are not seated yet, now it gets a little warm but not near as hot as it did when was New. mine is the 1983c-b 3/8 and lug nuts are no match for it.
There is a point in most of these situations where getting anything to be just a little bit better is very expensive, twice as much or more. Unless you do this kind of work for a living, and you do it intensively for hours with one kind of tool at a time, I'd say it's worth the extra money. That's a rare situation. Bauer is a solid tool, and HF has really made an impression over the last few years. I remember in the early 90s, HF was kind of a joke. No more.
For the price, there is no comparison, Bauer hands down. It's better than the Dewalt, and nearly as good as the Milwaukee at 1/3rd the price. Not to mention battery price. I can get 4 batteries for the Bauer for less than the price of two Milwaukee batteries. Brushless is better, no argument, but if you need tools to get started in the trades and don't have a ton of cash up front, buy the Bauer. Milwaukee will still be there when you can afford to upgrade.
For $69 and my 20% off coupon, someone can steal my drill, buy another one and still be under the price of the Milwaukee. Just because you can lock it out doesn’t mean you’ll get it back.
I agree, Been leaning towards HF but just haven't took the dive. Tried to wait for sales on a name brand but just waiting, Even considering the Walmart brand
@@ericthomas7474 just go with Bauer. Plenty of quality and durability for DIYers. Batteries are so much cheaper then the competition. And their array of tools is pretty extensive. They are comming out with new ones soon too.
You missed a big comparison, try driving lag bolts with the Bauer. The Milwaukee running on 3 is putting out much more power than the Bauer which is also something to look at when talking about the battery consumption. Not saying the Bauer is no good, I would buy it if I didn’t want to spend the money on Milwaukee but there’s no comparison between the two. Having to stop and let the Bauer cool down is also a negative, if you have a big job the Milwaukee would be way more efficient and durable. Running brushed motors hot all the time is a good way to break them. But just for use around the house most people will get more than their money’s worth out of the Bauer, but i would never take one on a job site.
They start off great. If you torque too high the Bauer will fry your board. The trigger mechanism. Is shoddy. It works good for a couple weeks. The Bauer will go up in smoke.
@Rob Wilson I'm not hating. I'm just saying in my line of work you need high end with quality. It does have a lot higher price. I have a cordless black and decker for home use and it works great.
would like to see this again with the non-fuel version of the milwaukee. be brushed vs brushed that way and bring the prices a little closer to each other also the Bauer does have 5 amp batteries available
I went to the pawn shop and seen a bouer drill that a contractor used everyday and his building coat on fire and the bouer drill was in the fire and it still works I can’t believe it bouer is a good tool I have a couple of them never let me down
Oh I see it now. I'm real sorry, thank you. :) Great video btw, i enjoyed it....seriously. Thank you for making quality content for us to watch and learn. Again, many apologies. Take care sir.
Not so much for infringement issues as it's for marketing reasons. Obviously 20 sounds better than 18. Where brands like dewalt claim their 20v's are true 18 because while under a load they still read 18 volts apposed to other brands that may read 16 or 17 under a load.
I love Milwaukee tools I have many but dude you did not do a fair comparison to use the brushless Milwaukee and a brushed Bauer. I have many Bauer and many Milwaukee Tools both are excellent Milwaukee is obviously better but for Bauer the money you cannot get any better for your buck. Bauer is very good and affordable. Excellent tool
I know this is Left 4 year old video but thought I'd throw on my two cents I was a professional assembler for 2 years I use the Bauer it never failed. the 3 amp hour battery only took 45 minutes to charge with the fast charger if even that long plus it never got hot for the cost Bauer outdoes any top name brand IMO
HF doesn't so warranties, they give you a choice, save the money on a limited warranty that most dont use, due to shipping cost and the probability it may not be covered, or purchase an exchange plan, if it breaks, walk out the store with a new one, no questions asked. Most companies bet that 80% wont cash in on warranty work and add the cost of warranty to the sale and consumers believe that if it has a great warranty coverage time, it's a better tool. The Milwaukee and Ridged are limited warranties and what you did may not be covered? That's why they want you to include a credit card number, so they can charge it, if they won't cover it. Black and Decker yellow is even worse and have a 1 star rating for warranty work.
@@fishyfool it's a replacement plan. A warranty you will have to pay to ship the item to and from, will replace broken parts if covered under normal use and whatever else the fine print states. The exchange program is different, as no matter what happened , normal use, abused, fell out the truck driving on the highway, threw it in the neighbor's pool, you walk out with a brand new one that day, no questions asked.
Look bauer is for your diy weekend guy on a budget. Yes it does the job. But don't expect commercial results either maybe once or twice but youd prolly push your luck if not fried it by then
Unfortunately, the one-key feature only works if your phone app and tool are within 100 feet of each other. It will probably help you find your tool if you just misplaced it at you home or job site. However, if the tool was stolen, chances are slim the thief and tool will be that close, unless he is very stupid. 100 feet (30 yards) is not very far. It’s not like the “find me” app that can find your Iphone using gps.
Which is true. But the good thing about one key.. Is that it's always working/scanning l. So you pass by someone who does have it running.. It checks in via their app/phone.
Now compare the Bauer to a regular Milwaukee M-18 impact drill. Or compare the Milwaukee M-18 to your Milwaukee FUEL M-18 impact drill. You didn’t compare the Bauer to the regular Milwaukee M-18 impact drill, you compared it to Milwaukee’s “fuel” series which is their professional/commercial line of tools. You also did regular drill test & you didn’t do impact tool tests… should have timed each tests & each screw/bolt that you drove in the wood or what ever you were using. With an impact drill I would expect to see someone changing a wheel… (taking off & putting back on lugs) Still an ok video. I just think you compared the wrong tools for brand comparison
A guy with his own business would be better off with the better bang for the buck which is the baur lineup. These power tools arent generic like the old hf stuff. One could buy 3 baur impacts to 1 milwki. Dont even get started on the overpriced batteries. U can still get more 3a packs than one milwki 5a. Telling someone starting a business to overspend for milwkisnapoff tools is a thing of the past. There are better bangs for the buck
I completely agree! With Bauer and Harbor Freight, you are immediately profitable because they are affordable. The jobs you end up doing pay for the tool upon first use, and everything after that is all profit.
Great test but I can say My Milwaukee batteries are not worth the money . when i bought my drill and driver set it came with two batteries. One did not charge at all when I tried to get either a new battery or cash reimbursement I was told to bad so sad it was not covered. I bought two more brand new and 1 lasted about a month once again told to bad so sad. My Bauer tools are all working well and my Bauer batteries work just fine. I don't need a fancy name on the side I need tools that work when I need them to. Take it for what it's worth.
2 updates. 1. Bauer now has a 20v brushless impact driver. 2. Bauer now has a 5 amp battery pack. The impact driver is available as tool only regularly priced at $59.99 but until Nov 3, 2022, it's $49.99 and as a kit with the 1.5 amp battery for $69.99. The 5 amp battery prices at $54.99 with a super coupon, regularly priced at $59.99. So up until Nov. 3, you can get the impact driver only for $49.99 and a battery for $54.99 plus a charger for $29.99 or a quick charger for $34.99. Putting a unit together with the 5 amp battery and the higher end charger for around $150.00 including tax, or take the kit for $69.99 which includes a standard charger and 1.5 amp battery and add a 5 amp for $130.00. I'd like to see a rematch of all brushless drivers with the 5 amp batteries.
I'll save you time from watching this video use both tools everyday for three years and then do a comparison, one has a nin3ty day warranty the other five years.
Actually .... 18V and 20V are the same .... just a matter of how they are measured !!! Same as the Bosch 12V is the 10.8V in Europe... exact same thing just different measurements !!!
Hey guys! Thanks for all of the response to the video, I didn't expect it to take off like it did.
One thing I made a huge mistake on is battery voltage. Milwaukee's 18V nominal voltage is the same as Bauer's 20V "max" voltage, and I only thought they were different because I fell for their sneaky marketing. Thanks to all who corrected me on this issue.
If you enjoyed the video, please subscribe to us! We do all sorts of videos, from projects and builds to reviews and comparisons, and we never stick to one topic. Thanks again!
Another is the charge time. After a few cycles of charge/discharge the Bauer learns and charges over twice as fast
Also, the Bauer does come in 5Ah batteries now.
I bet Bauer...er...Harbor was sneaky with torque rating.
Reason they do that is because they don't want to pay Milwaukee raylties on 18v.
@@TranquilPhoenix12 Ah available now
I'm sticking to these underrated brands. If it gets the job done it gets the job done.
I use Hercules for work in the shipyard does everything I need it to do my whole tool line up is herc to and I never have regretted it plus batteries and fucking cheap ........
I use Bauer drills everyday for 6 hours a day and they never gave me any trouble I dropped them off tables and they still work fine I build stuff for Lowe's and home Depot and these drills performance is too notch Bauer all the way
I love the bauer drills I have both drill and driver and I owned them for 2yrs they never gave me any issues I use it every day at work I do construction
Same, I own 7 pieces of Bauer battery tools and think they work great for my through out the week projects. Thought about buying a bigger circ saw, but the bauer does everything I need, without fail so far.
I agree with you, I've had drill and impact for 2+/- years now no issues I do construction, keeps up just fine. Not saying baby it but don't treat it like trash and just take care of it, will keep working
I have bauer tools in my box too..... I do demolition (gutting old buildings before the bulldozer comes so we make money from the copper/iron)had the impact for about 6 months now and have used it for everything from taking down electrical boxes to removing the tires from a forklift (with bauer impact socket adapters).......
In my opinion to make it FAIR, it would be better to compare it to Milwaukee’s BRUSHED motor instead of brushless.
We all know Milwaukee will smoke it any ways lol, but it's pretty close,,, but ask any racer, any real racer, it don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning ,,😎😎😎😎😎😎 (f&f)
@@josefelix4152 If it was close then it would be closer if Milwaukee was brushed. I'm not saying they would win but I'm saying to make it FAIR.
@@josefelix4152 Better to have run what you brung, than to hold out and not run anything. Like a k24 vs an LS, the LS may be quicker, but not by much and the K24 is way cheaper to build.
@@josefelix4152 more like debt is debt
@@josefelix4152 anyway*
I like your unbiased, honest and fair opinion in this review. When I started doing maintenance, I was using DeWalt. Later in my career I used Bosch for about a year and then I was introduced to Milwaukee because it was on sale. I have since stuck with that brand, but the Bauer does seem to give it a run for the money. Obviously, they are not on the same level, but it’s still a great tool. You just earned yourself a follower! Thank you and God bless you!!!
Just bought the Baur for $65. Home projects it’s perfect and can’t beat the price. If you want the name brand for 3-4 times the price, that’s individual choice.
Very good review and well explained. I got the Bauer for christmas, and I feel it'll work well for the occasional duty I will need it for.
I’m a big fan of the Milwaukee tools. I just bought a 3/8 and a 1/4 drive cordless ratchet and I really like them.
I have zero complaints about their tool lineup! They make some great stuff.
I got a new Milwaukee m18 gen 3 Fuel 2853, ebay Vanon 5 Ah battery and generic charger for about $145 - all new and all readily available. I think it's the best deal overall because the Gen 3 is powerful enough to use as an impact wrench for most things, and if you don't put the battery through a ton of cycles then the Vanon will do just fine for a long time. Thank you for the comparison video! Cheers!
makes the decision easy for me. I could buy 3 sets of Bauer for the same price. So if they got stolen I would still have my money to buy another set.
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The bauer will spin the blades right off my 60 inch zero turn mower deck. That's good performance from a 1/4" impact driver. All I need. Mine was a gift a couple years ago.
Just bought the Bauer. Your review is very evenhanded. After reviewing your comparison, I agree with your findings and as a casual user, the Bauer would still be my choice. I’ve purchased expensive brands in the past and the batteries typically fail before I put much time on. As a casual user, it’s cheaper just to buy a complete replacement than a new battery.
If I was still in construction, Milwaukee all day.
In the past the batteries were nicad or NiMhi and thus were affected by "memory" if not constantly used and charged over and over.
These new ones are all lithium ion and that issue is gone. Just sayin
As a weekend warrior I love my Bauer 😎
I agree with a lot of what you said, especially at the end. I’m not using Milwaukee tools every day to make money anymore. My batteries were really on their way out. I sold them all used ranging from 3-5 years old and replaced them with brand new Bauer Bauer tools. How long they last is to be determined.
Don't count on the batteries ! I bought my first and last Bauer battery. I used cordless tools all day long on railroad . We beat them to death . Took reps sold us every major brand out there .They were all decent . The Metabo was best ,it out lasted everything 2 to 1. Milwaukee's were always solid too! That being said my Bauer 20 v has good torque but battery lasts about like a 14 volt nicad. The 30 day warranty HF gives flat out pisses me off. I think the cordless tools are where I step away from HF .
I really appreciate your testing. I cannot/ don't want to afford those more expensive tools, so I have the Bauer line up. Thanks so much!
Dude forget the tools I'm impressed with you driving 366 screws for this Review 👏👏👏👏👏👏.
Another factor to consider would be cost divided by number of holes (plus the Bauer is now available in brushess, and I like mine.
That's a good point. If you can buy 3 drills for the same price, you could have 3 people getting more work done.
Is the performance difference worth the almost doubled price tag?
18 volts and 20 volts are actually the same, just how they are measured. I do like Harbor Freight, but I bought a Milwaukee 12 volt set, drill and impact with two batteries. The Hercules said to compare with the Milwaukee, so I did. The week I bought it, the Milwaukee was cheaper!
Put them under a high torque situation (ie. Lag bolts in a 4x4 or automotive nuts/bolts) and I bet youd see a larger difference between the two.
Yea for automotive I would use the Milwaukee
i'm looking for a bit driver so my drill can just drill but.... the app on the mill-e-wah-que makes me wonder if i should pay more for it.
The newer Bauer tools, more and more of them are getting to being brushless motors. I buy Bauer brushless tools and they're absolute workhorses. I put mine through hell and they soldier through it without any complaints. Absolutely great value for the money.
so why would you use brushless milwaukee if this is a comparison video?
Great job on the reviews.
Another important factor: My Harbor Freight store manager ALWAYS TAKES CARE OF ME. The price, quality and SERVICE of Bauer/HFT is really hard to beat if you have a store with a manager like mine. :)
Considering the fact that now Harbor freight makes a brushless Bauer impact driver for 40 bucks bare tool I will stick with that and just so you know, I don’t know if you knew about this but they now make a 5ah and 8ah for the Bauer Bauer is really stepping up their game right now
Thanks for you man I just got to the one of them Bowers drill and and driver from harbor freight it's a half inch we'll see how it goes.
Just an FYI 18v and 20v are actually the exact same voltage batteries in the tool, it's just a marketing difference.
If that's the case, that's total misinformation. I know it doesn't seem like much, but more than 10% voltage difference should be noticeable.
@@FormulaJake Well it's just the difference between nominal and peak voltage. A lithium battery has a nominal voltage of 3.6v, there are 5 cells in series for those tools so 3.6 x 5 = 18v. The peak voltage though is 4.2v per cell, 4.2 x 5 = 21 but they just call it 20.
They're exactly the same, possibly even the same brand 18650 cells, just differently advertised.
I was looking to see if someone mentioned that, right after he said the Bauer was a higher voltage. tool. 20v max is max of the batteries on the charger. Marketing scheme black and decker used to make their dewalt crap seem better, ( don't really know if they started it, but it does seem like something black and decker would do?) Milwaukee doesn't need to do the fake marketing strategy; their customers are smart enough not to fall for the battery is stronger while in the charger wool. That's why they still just say what it is 18v. Keep it real and honest, the opposite of black and decker, who will put together crap tools in a sale kit, put dewalt name on it, so people think they are getting a high end tool at a great price; when they were taken, buying a lower quality tool than offered on the shelf with low end batteries. Then someday they may waist their time and find out why dewalt warranty service has a 1 1/2 star rating. My emotions of rip offs, took me way off topic. Sorry
@@FormulaJake Nope, legalities.
@@derekdugger2321 And the Dewalt won't run with the Bauer either. Bauer kicks it's butt.
Hi, Milwaukee is and always will be top of the line quality tools that stood the test of time, Bauer is new to the market and it’s holding up so far for me, just my opinion, , Bob,
The current model Bauer is brushless, has three speed ranges, and is variable speed on the trigger pull. If your drill has a bluetooth surveillance feature, then I can probably track where you are and track how many screws you drive in each location...
I just got the m12 fuel set with the drill, I love Milwaukee I usually buy Milwaukee and matco infinium depending on the price but I don't but other brands, I still have my first Milwaukee m12 red from 7 years ago and the batteries just died lol so I got this fuel set and extra battery for the old ones,
Thanks for the video. I feel like the Bauer line up, even though it is a 20v line up should be compared against the Milwaukee 12v tools. The reasoning is the pricing. Bauer drill 90$ vs Milwaukee 12v drill 120$.
For the price difference BAU ER seems to be a good choice as much as it stands for being that much cheaper and they do have five amp hour batteries for them
I have become a big Bauer fan for their battery set of tools. The price is right and they get the job done as a home and DIYer. I'm not a contractor and with as good as this cheaper brand is I don't see the need for something 3x the cost.
Once you buy into the battery set there are so many other tools on that line as well that continue to save you money. Can't go wrong here! If I was a contractor I'd get contractor grade tools or at least Hercules brand. Else, it's perfect
great video brother 👍
Agreed with your evaluation, for around the home, Bauer all the way, but for constant use/making a living, Milwaukee all the way.. Using your impact drive for daily use vs once and a while on the weekends,, Bauer...
Hey everyone Just throwing a little information out there for those of you who do not know you can buy an adapter to run the DeWalt 20v battery packs on your Bauer impact. I think I gave around 20 bucks for mine on eBay. I'm using and DeWalt 5AH on mine now and love it . Yes they do get hot with continue use when they are brand new because the brushes are not seated yet, now it gets a little warm but not near as hot as it did when was New. mine is the 1983c-b 3/8 and lug nuts are no match for it.
Try an older Milwaukee with brushes against the Bauer.
Does Bauer make a brushless impact equal to Milwaukee ?
There is a point in most of these situations where getting anything to be just a little bit better is very expensive, twice as much or more. Unless you do this kind of work for a living, and you do it intensively for hours with one kind of tool at a time, I'd say it's worth the extra money. That's a rare situation. Bauer is a solid tool, and HF has really made an impression over the last few years. I remember in the early 90s, HF was kind of a joke. No more.
For the price, there is no comparison, Bauer hands down. It's better than the Dewalt, and nearly as good as the Milwaukee at 1/3rd the price.
Not to mention battery price. I can get 4 batteries for the Bauer for less than the price of two Milwaukee batteries.
Brushless is better, no argument, but if you need tools to get started in the trades and don't have a ton of cash up front, buy the Bauer. Milwaukee will still be there when you can afford to upgrade.
For $69 and my 20% off coupon, someone can steal my drill, buy another one and still be under the price of the Milwaukee. Just because you can lock it out doesn’t mean you’ll get it back.
unfortunately the 20% off coupons don't work for Bauer. They do have sales though!
@@JustinRiley1987 they about always have Bauer specific coupons.
I agree, Been leaning towards HF but just haven't took the dive. Tried to wait for sales on a name brand but just waiting, Even considering the Walmart brand
@@ericthomas7474 just go with Bauer. Plenty of quality and durability for DIYers. Batteries are so much cheaper then the competition. And their array of tools is pretty extensive. They are comming out with new ones soon too.
@@JustinRiley1987 noooooooo
bauer has a brushless also now
Bauer is a surprisingly good tool line.
Great review, thanks. keep on ...
Bauer has a 5 amp battery already available and a 8amp on the way.
Waiting for the 8amp if 5amp does great for me I bet 8amp will be asome.
Enjoyed the video. Loved the bike!
You missed a big comparison, try driving lag bolts with the Bauer. The Milwaukee running on 3 is putting out much more power than the Bauer which is also something to look at when talking about the battery consumption. Not saying the Bauer is no good, I would buy it if I didn’t want to spend the money on Milwaukee but there’s no comparison between the two. Having to stop and let the Bauer cool down is also a negative, if you have a big job the Milwaukee would be way more efficient and durable. Running brushed motors hot all the time is a good way to break them. But just for use around the house most people will get more than their money’s worth out of the Bauer, but i would never take one on a job site.
They start off great. If you torque too high the Bauer will fry your board. The trigger mechanism. Is shoddy.
It works good for a couple weeks. The Bauer will go up in smoke.
Bauer isnt meant for commercial use. Its meant for a diy guy/budget spending
I have been using my Bauer impact and Hammer Drill for months doing electrical work. Never had a problem.
I do commercial plumbing. The most an electrician is going to do is messing with conduits making a sound similar to the purge.
@Rob Wilson
I'm not hating. I'm just saying in my line of work you need high end with quality. It does have a lot higher price.
I have a cordless black and decker for home use and it works great.
would like to see this again with the non-fuel version of the milwaukee. be brushed vs brushed that way and bring the prices a little closer to each other
also the Bauer does have 5 amp batteries available
I mean if your in a budget Bauer would do the job nice video
I went to the pawn shop and seen a bouer drill that a contractor used everyday and his building coat on fire and the bouer drill was in the fire and it still works I can’t believe it bouer is a good tool I have a couple of them never let me down
Great video man.
Good job!
Bauer has a 5.0 battery now.
I got that bauer for $54 at harbor freight
The 18v and the 20v is one and the same. Labled different to avoid some infringement rights
Finally!! Somebody has a brain around here! I was hoping somebody would mention that.
Did you see my pinned comment?
Oh I see it now. I'm real sorry, thank you. :) Great video btw, i enjoyed it....seriously. Thank you for making quality content for us to watch and learn. Again, many apologies. Take care sir.
Not so much for infringement issues as it's for marketing reasons. Obviously 20 sounds better than 18. Where brands like dewalt claim their 20v's are true 18 because while under a load they still read 18 volts apposed to other brands that may read 16 or 17 under a load.
Considering the fact that now Harbor freight makes a brushless Bauer impact driver for 40 bucks bare tool I will stick with that
Good test and report - thanks!
Voltages are the same. 18-20 are the same. 5, 4 volt cells
bought my Bauer for 20 with 25 percent off on the bargain table no belt clip fits in my Kline holster
Next time gets some 12 in lag bolts and you want half to make a 196 holes it would be much faster
Only problem with comparison is that the Milwaukee is which makes a big difference
I love Milwaukee tools I have many but dude you did not do a fair comparison to use the brushless Milwaukee and a brushed Bauer. I have many Bauer and many Milwaukee Tools both are excellent Milwaukee is obviously better but for Bauer the money you cannot get any better for your buck. Bauer is very good and affordable. Excellent tool
I know this is Left 4 year old video but thought I'd throw on my two cents I was a professional assembler for 2 years I use the Bauer it never failed. the 3 amp hour battery only took 45 minutes to charge with the fast charger if even that long plus it never got hot for the cost Bauer outdoes any top name brand IMO
Yeah don't forget to compare the one thing that sets these so far apart... The warranty 90 days bauer. 1825 days for the milwaukee
Yep, the warranty is the big difference.
Try ridgid! 9,125 day warranty
Buy the extended warranty for the Bauer, three years for like 5 bucks
HF doesn't so warranties, they give you a choice, save the money on a limited warranty that most dont use, due to shipping cost and the probability it may not be covered, or purchase an exchange plan, if it breaks, walk out the store with a new one, no questions asked. Most companies bet that 80% wont cash in on warranty work and add the cost of warranty to the sale and consumers believe that if it has a great warranty coverage time, it's a better tool. The Milwaukee and Ridged are limited warranties and what you did may not be covered? That's why they want you to include a credit card number, so they can charge it, if they won't cover it. Black and Decker yellow is even worse and have a 1 star rating for warranty work.
@@fishyfool it's a replacement plan. A warranty you will have to pay to ship the item to and from, will replace broken parts if covered under normal use and whatever else the fine print states. The exchange program is different, as no matter what happened , normal use, abused, fell out the truck driving on the highway, threw it in the neighbor's pool, you walk out with a brand new one that day, no questions asked.
Nice video.
Look bauer is for your diy weekend guy on a budget. Yes it does the job. But don't expect commercial results either maybe once or twice but youd prolly push your luck if not fried it by then
You didn't test the Brushless Bauer with the brushless Milwaukee. Plus you didn't use the Bauer fast charger. Bogus comparison.
It was about value for dollar. Bogus comment.
No I have a 5 amp hour battery for mine for my Bauer
I have a bauer and it has a 5AH battery.
The voltage is the same. Milwaukee uses nominal voltage. Bauer uses max voltage.
They both use the same cells and have the same voltage.
See my pinned comment. I fell for the marketing.
Bauer makes a 12amp now. ;-)
Unfortunately, the one-key feature only works if your phone app and tool are within 100 feet of each other. It will probably help you find your tool if you just misplaced it at you home or job site. However, if the tool was stolen, chances are slim the thief and tool will be that close, unless he is very stupid. 100 feet (30 yards) is not very far. It’s not like the “find me” app that can find your Iphone using gps.
Which is true. But the good thing about one key.. Is that it's always working/scanning l. So you pass by someone who does have it running.. It checks in via their app/phone.
Now compare the Bauer to a regular Milwaukee M-18 impact drill.
Or compare the Milwaukee M-18 to your Milwaukee FUEL M-18 impact drill.
You didn’t compare the Bauer to the regular Milwaukee M-18 impact drill, you compared it to Milwaukee’s “fuel” series which is their professional/commercial line of tools.
You also did regular drill test & you didn’t do impact tool tests… should have timed each tests & each screw/bolt that you drove in the wood or what ever you were using.
With an impact drill I would expect to see someone changing a wheel… (taking off & putting back on lugs)
Still an ok video. I just think you compared the wrong tools for brand comparison
I don't like the 1 key no wifi on tools
A guy with his own business would be better off with the better bang for the buck which is the baur lineup. These power tools arent generic like the old hf stuff. One could buy 3 baur impacts to 1 milwki. Dont even get started on the overpriced batteries. U can still get more 3a packs than one milwki 5a. Telling someone starting a business to overspend for milwkisnapoff tools is a thing of the past. There are better bangs for the buck
I completely agree! With Bauer and Harbor Freight, you are immediately profitable because they are affordable. The jobs you end up doing pay for the tool upon first use, and everything after that is all profit.
The milwaukee is going to last waaaay longer if used like that alot.
Only difference between a 20v and 18v system is the marketing... both 5cells same voltage
ijs if you had to let off to let the bauer cool, then it already failed the test.
Who's driving 170 screws back to back though? I doubt it would get that hot during a normal build.
Great test but I can say My Milwaukee batteries are not worth the money . when i bought my drill and driver set it came with two batteries. One did not charge at all when I tried to get either a new battery or cash reimbursement I was told to bad so sad it was not covered. I bought two more brand new and 1 lasted about a month once again told to bad so sad. My Bauer tools are all working well and my Bauer batteries work just fine. I don't need a fancy name on the side I need tools that work when I need them to. Take it for what it's worth.
FOR A BETTER TEST GET THE BRUSH MILWAUKEE THEN REDO THE TEST
But it also means someone can lock my tools
Heat kills tools. Brushes need service. Bauer is fine for light duty.
Both should be brushless.
4ah
Even if you can lock a Milwaukee with an app it's still stolen. It's not like the joke is on the thief.
Mite have to stick with craftmen
Go ridgid and get the best bang for your buck.
2 updates.
1. Bauer now has a 20v brushless impact driver.
2. Bauer now has a 5 amp battery pack.
The impact driver is available as tool only regularly priced at $59.99 but until Nov 3, 2022, it's $49.99 and as a kit with the 1.5 amp battery for $69.99. The 5 amp battery prices at $54.99 with a super coupon, regularly priced at $59.99. So up until Nov. 3, you can get the impact driver only for $49.99 and a battery for $54.99 plus a charger for $29.99 or a quick charger for $34.99. Putting a unit together with the 5 amp battery and the higher end charger for around $150.00 including tax, or take the kit for $69.99 which includes a standard charger and 1.5 amp battery and add a 5 amp for $130.00.
I'd like to see a rematch of all brushless drivers with the 5 amp batteries.
16 screws difference?? For 300.00 difference. 😂😂
Its the same voltage and there not even close
I'll save you time from watching this video use both tools everyday for three years and then do a comparison, one has a nin3ty day warranty the other five years.
Actually .... 18V and 20V are the same .... just a matter of how they are measured !!! Same as the Bosch 12V is the 10.8V in Europe... exact same thing just different measurements !!!
I made a pinned comment about this topic. I was fooled unfortunately!