Roland TD17 VS TM6 Pro
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- Roland makes two drum modules that are pretty close in price. The TD17 for $600 and the TM6 Pro module for $800. What's the difference between them? And which module is best?
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Hi, one huge difference between them is the TM6 Pro includes 500 bespoke, brand new sounds, created by professional drummers and recording engineers. The TD17 sounds are from Roland's library, not the same as TM6. Secondly, a lot of the TM6 sounds work as stand alone. Roland launched the TM6 at NAMM using only mesh head kits. Also you can layer the one shot samples with the v-drum sounds in the TM6, thus creating more realistic stand alone sounds. Having said that, I agree the TM6 is PRIMARILY aimed at drummers adding TM6 sounds to their acoustic kit and a few trigger pads. But to all those people commenting that the sound libraries are the same, or they can't see the extra $200 value in the TM6, as I say, the TM6 includes 500 unique sounds not found on any other Roland module. Sounds that were recorded in pro studios with legendary rock status. Other Roland modules use stock Roland sound libraries.
Chris, do you think the TM-6 Pro is adequate as a standalone module for playing eDrums live (Top 40/country/70's), whether using its onboard sounds or your sample pack? I am contemplating using a TM-6 Pro with some Roland PD-125x pads and Aegean low volume cymbals for small venue gigs where I can control volume. I like the small form factor of the TM-6, TD-17, and 27.. having a hard time choosing. Thanks! - DV
@@progression_decibel V Drums like the TD17 and TD27 are far better suited to stand alone playing. The TM-6 is designed to partner with acoustic drums.
I have wasted money on triggers its dependent on what your module can do with and simple playback the way you would with the mesh or rubber pads. Finally the TM-6 use Roland triggers and your there.
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Hey, Justin! Thanks for the video. So basically only difference between td17 and td17L module is only a Bluetooth? I'm considering an upgrade from Yamaha dtxpress 4 to Roland TD 17 and trying to understand if it's an only difference in td17 modules. Thanks again, mate! Cheers
What would the be the best drum modules at different price points? for a custom kit
is it worth buying TM6 and use it with VST for my hybrid set up?
Does anyone know how well tm6 works with triggered low volume mesh heads on an acoustic kit ?or more specifically with RTOM black hole heads and triggers
Justin, can u make video for td-1kpx upgrade options?
So you can use the TD17 for a hybrid, acoustic to electric? Would a 5 piece acoustic drums (snare, bass, 3 toms) with triggers and mesh heads work by connecting the Trigger Input connector (DB-25 type) "Snake" to RT-30 triggers?
I found it its as always great video. Im looking more towards hybrid drumming. I have Yamaha electronic drums and recently bought some stage custom birch drums well made.
I don’t even consider these living in the same space.
The TM6 is built for a professional live environment. I use it to beef up my live sound, very applicable onstage. The one shots sound great through foh mix without much tweaking. The td17 would be less useful live and would sound less than desirable onstage.
They’re different animals made
For different purposes.
Is there a way to get a “mix in” into the tm6? Like to make drum covers? I don’t see an input for aux
Dumb question - what’s the difference between the drum sound and a one-shot sample?
The Roland library sounds has multiple layers for different dynamics, one shot samples has just one layer of the sample, so it’s the same sound just softer or louder as you hit it with more velocity
Hi, man. I'm new to the channel, just subscribed. I was wondering if you or anyone on the comments could help me because I've found close to nothing online about my problem.
I have had an Alesis DM6 for a few years now, it kinda suck, but it has been quite reliable and it does serve me well since I mainly just use it for practice (apartment dwellers will know the struggle lol).
So, today I got home from work and went to practice, but has I turned them on, they the module didn't work. I checked the 9v adapter/power supply on some guitar pedals I own and it wasn't working - I tried another 9v adapter I use for my pedals (those basic onerr ones) and it was working so I tried it on the drum set but the module still didn't turn on.
So, is it possible that both my old 9v supply and the module got fried for some reason?
Is there any change that just the 9v supply got fried and for some reason the other 9v onerr supply I use for my pedals is not compatible with the module or something like that?
In case I come to the conclusion the module did get fried, does anyone know if I can buy a module from any other kit, Alesis or any other brand, and make it work with the Alesis DM6 pads? Is it worthy?
Is it worthy trying to get the module fixed?
I live in Brazil and these things here are terrible expensive! This DM6 set I own costs around R$2200 , just so you can have a parameter, minimum wage is R$900,00 !
I hope someone can help me :/ it sucks to stay idle without playing...
Hey Justin still hanging and haven't missed your vids for a couple of years you really do a superb job with these videos can you tell me how the UFOs ended up triggering
I buy the tm 6 pro for 2 reasons, to enhanced the sound of my acoustic kit, like adding tambourine on toms and clap or electro zap on my snare and also to record and practicing quiet with mesh head on my acoustic set.
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This is a weird comparison. The TM-6 is not meant to be a regular drum module. It is a hybrid module, meant to be combined with an acoustic set or at least with low noise cymbals. A person that asks “should I buy a TD-17 or a TM-6” does clearly not understand what a TM-6 does. I would have explained the TM-6 instead and maybe compare it with a TM-2. At least those 2 are in the same device category. However, you got the message across to not use the TM-6 as regular module.
Roland's rationale does not make sense. You have to use mics with both of these modules, so it doesn't matter which one is used specifically for hybrid setups. They both support user samples, but the TD17 uses multilayer sounds vs the Tm6-Pro's one shot sounds.
TD17 is the clear winner for $200 less, more inputs, and it can literally do everything the TM6 can do sans the direct outs.
You SURE multilayer?? I believe TD-17 is also one shot sounds.
Jim, take a look at this: th-cam.com/video/VZP-y4BAZxM/w-d-xo.html
Ronnie Parisella One person asked on that video that you sent me to: are they truly multi layered samples? Or do they just change the sample based on velocity hits? I’ve been doing a lot of research on the TD - 17, and every single thing that I’ve heard, is they are absolutely not multilayer samples like you get on something like the mimic pro. Or even the Alesis strike.
Not weird at all in my opinion. A great comparison.
Thanks. Didn’t consider the Alesis. I’ll check it out.
Hi Justin. Great video.
I own a silenced kit with mesh heads and low volume cymbals and in these quarantine days I have started to invest some money to convert it into a hybrid kit.
As a first step I bought Roland triggers for bass drum, snare drum, tom and eardrum and I had initially combined them with an ATV xd3 control unit, which however was incompatible with these triggers. So I proceeded to return the ATV and I have to decide the change to do.
I initially thought TD17 was the right choice, but now I'm into confusion, cause I watched some Roland TM6 pro videos and I'm enthusiast about it's feautures. The idea of having 6 independent outputs and of being able to use it both as a sound module of an electronic kit, and to be able to transform my main kit into an hybrid kit, in an "experimental" perspective, really stimulates me.
Among other things, it seems really simple to use and, considering that it is my first experience with an electronic kit and that I have always been an electronic drums skeptical, I think it is an important thing.
I come to the point. My doubts are these:
1) Compared to the TD17, are the acoustic kits contained within the TM6 pro equally valid?
2) I never owned an electronic kit, especially because (like the vast majority of drummers) I consider the feeling on the acoustic instrument something invaluable. Compared to the TD17, does the TM6 have at least the same response in dynamics and sensitivity? For me this is a priority.
3) The TM6 pro inputs are 6 (splittable at 12) + 1 hi-hat controller. Is the hi-hat controller input subtracted from one of the 6 main inputs or does it add to them? It's not a priority, but I'd be interested to know it.
It would be really important for me to solve these doubts. Thanks in advance for your reply.
Bernardino
Hey Justin, I was wondering what drum kit to get for about $1000 to $1200 AUD (Australian Dollars), i'm starting to get in to drumming, could you please let me know? P.S Nice vid
Gretsch Catalina Maple sets are excellent. I bought the 7 piece in Aqua Sparkle and added to it and made it a 10 piece dual kick set. Always get great compliments on it and it plays great. I converted it into a hybrid kit with Remo heads and Roland triggers using a TD-50 and the TD-17.
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The Alesis strike se chinga al Roland td17 and tm6🤟🏻dose more for the price
I have a brand new pair of Jobeky hi hat cymbals and I am having trouble calibrating them.
My modules are Roland TD 17 and Roland TD 27
The strike is just NOT good at triggering. I plugged in a TD-12 on the strike kit and while the sounds weren't as good, the triggering was worlds better. My Strike kit didn't last a week. The hi hat is a nightmare and the snare dynamics just aren't there.
Hi there.
I have an issue. My drummer uses side stick and rim shot. He never uses centre for snare. The problem is that when he hits rim shot all I get is side stick. How can I resolve this problem. Otherwise it means that I can’t use the snare trigger.
Thanks for your help.
I'm looking for a simple way to shed "weight and space". I play roughly 60-70 shows a year plus work full time. Would the tm6 be a feasible option to run kick, snare, rack, floor using pads? Not triggering my acoustic kit. I'm still not sold on the brass side of e drums so I will still be using my cymbals. Just worried about getting good sound/ response from the module.
No Sound Comparison??
So can I buy the ezdrummer 2 but buy the new SD 3 expansion pack to add on? I can get the ez2 for $129. Then I might buy the Rock Foundry or progressive Foundry for $? So do they work together ? Is the SD 3 worth buying if I’m only using it to trigger live. .?
Can the Roland TD17 be connected to the Roland tm 2 with a midi out cable so I can have the sounds of the TD17 on the tm2 directly with a midi out cable?
Good video. I was about to troll about not mentioning the alesis strike. Alas you did good! The alesis strike is one of the few to not only do round robin but also to do multi layer samples which makes import from vst's such as Superior drummer a reality. Screw the crappy sounds most of these things come with. Vst is the savoir for mediocre module sounds. Only alesis and 2box really does this.
Alesis strike module by itself still has durability issues. I bought an alesis strike pro last month hooked it all up to find out the module was a dud. Alesis customer service is top notch though I’ll give em that. And they did offer to send me a new module next day shipping but I declined and exchanged drumset for a td17kvx through website I bought it from. Couldn’t be happier. I love my Roland td17kvx with upgraded pd-120 pads. Well atleast to me those are upgraded.
Bill Perri triggering on my Roland td17kvx is so smooth and I’d say the best in the e-drum market. I also own a td11k. As my sons set. Cymbal sounds and bass drum sounds on td17 are realistic dynamic and where it shines. Snare drum and Tom drum sounds compared to strike module are on the flat dry boring irritating side to me. Irritating because when I had the strike for a month I got a realistic fat thick deep snare crack sound that I love and a wet realistic bottom end Tom sound felt like I was hitting actual toms and snare. I’ve had the td17 for going on 5 months now and still can’t find snare sounds like the strike. I feel like I’ve settled on a sound for now but I find myself tweeking and tweeking the snare sounds unsatisfied idk maybe it’s just me. In my opinion the cymbal sounds on the Roland td17 are more dynamic with awesome sustain and sticking same with bass drum. I feel like I could get a better acoustic like sounded bass drum on the td17. With more umph!. Quick note if I jump on the td11 real quick and then jump on the td17. The td17 blows the td11 out of the water in every level and sound. Makes me appreciate the td17 way way more. But that’s not what your asking. I decided to go with the td17 because of longevity, durability, new sounds , and trust in name. But that being said at the end of the day I’m unsatisfied with snare sounds and Tom sounds probably because I know what the strike module offers. Better sounds. But support my decision to exchange for durability in pads and hardware in Roland. I’m currently in market for strike module alone. Wouldn’t trade my td17 module for the strike module but would want to see what the best of both worlds would bring. Roland pads with strike brain. Aww man can’t wait. Anyway at the end of the day if you not picky with drum sounds and are a hard hitter then the Roland is the way to go. But if you are picky with sound and willing to be part of a devoted Facebook page devoted to strike owners swapping tips and tricks on how to fix/prevent durability issues on the alesis strike set then I feel the strike is the way to go for you. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed either way.
Bill Perri agreed. I just need to figure out how to record good one shot live snare samples. Load it to sd card then load it to the td17 like they did. Best easy way I can think is to use a real good tascam pocket recorder. And go to record some $500 dw snare at guitar center. Snare room.
Do you have to use alesis cymbals with the alesis module you mentioned in the video ? Im.trying to hybrid my kit with triggers and cymbals and a module, but I want to ideally not buy alesis cymbals
Sounds like you’re taking about me. I want to trigger my acoustic plus mics. Sometimes use one or the other or both. I think the TD17 is the right one for me. I’ll plug it into my board and enhance what I want. I also want to upgrade or cross grade to SD3. I have EZ2 now. The new SD3 sounds blow me away. Plus I can buy it already on an SSD. I always come to your site for your electronic knowledge and I appreciate your replies. Thanks, Greg
Justin this is off topic can you use ezdrummer 2 with an iPhone plugged into your electronic drum module with the USB and get good latency
I ve decided to upgrade my module so i can expand my drum kit...I like the sounds of the Strike more than the td-17,but the td-17 gives me access to the vh-10,while the Strike is too much of a hassle to deal with,hihat issues etc
Strike is head and shoulders above any 1000 dollar module imo. It took some effort on my part but I built some amazing sounding kits on mine. So powerful and dynamic. Love this module. Also have shown other musicians my recordings and they are Always surprised it's electronic
they sell alesis strike modules on thomann but i dont know if its available on sweetwater
What is your opinion that using mpc live as drum module to connect with ddrum ddti or alesis trigger io?
of topic but can i use 2 zone cymbals with a dtx400 module?
It sounded like you said muffin button...
mmmmmmmmm.......... Muffin button.................
I don't hear any ghost notes from the TD-17. is it a dynamic unit or not?
Play one in real life, they're very dynamic
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Thank you so much! I'm glad to hear you've been enjoying the videos!
If you can, buy the Strike module! I've used it professionally, and it can't be beat at the sub $1000 price point
How's the triggering for Roland pads?
@@chezchezchezchez I've only used Alesis pads, so I can't answer that
What about the Roland hi-hats? He mentioned that it takes a lot of messing around to get the Roland hats to work with Alexis modules.
Great. Just what I want to know
I have all 3 modules and you could argue with yourself all day on which one is best for you. It really boils down to each persons particular situation and that varies greatly. The td17 is great for the way you can make your own kits with layering but while it has great sounds it is a bit limited in how many. Of course you can import your own sounds but you can do that on all of them. The tm6 with its direct outs and individual inputs ,which is a big big plus, is a very usable module. There's plenty of sounds to work with to make some terrific sounding kits for your particular situation. As long as you don't need dual zone toms you'll be fine with the total # of inputs. The Alesis is like having the td17 and tm6 made into one fantastic beast of a module, it has it all and then some. My only grip with it is that while I haven't had any problems with it yet you just always have a feeling that the good times won't last. If using the strike or any module for live performances you don't want to have that feeling in your mind that it could crash at any moment. Unfortunately with Alesis you do feel that way, with Roland even after a nuclear meltdown that thing will still power up. Yes I know Roland has given some people a rough time, it's electronics and they're not perfect, but as of now roland is the king of quality for e-drums. Yamaha is great too, I'm sure someone will be thinking it, but they live on a different planet.
@@williamperri3437 - That's a tough question to answer as everyone has different tastes on what they like. Personally having had the td11 and now the td17 I feel it's a pretty nice upgrade. Minus the rubber pads all roland gear is nice to play but again it's all subjective to the individual person. The roland td17kvx is probably one of the best deals out there for what you get it's a steal. There's not one negative thing I could say about it except that it's widely sold out. Obviously there's a reason for that.
@@williamperri3437 - Yes the 17 is a step up for sure from the 11. It's based off the td50 sounds and also there's much more available to create your own sounds such as layering.
The ride works the same on both kits 3 zone with bell. I turn up the sensitivity on the bell because as set from factory you have to hit it a bit harder then the bow to get the sound.