Thank you everybody for watching, subscribing, and sharing your opinions. UPDATE Zero made a community post to his TH-cam channel April 26th: "Thank you everyone for the beautiful messages and birthday wishes. Life has been insane. I’m posting something this week to update you guys. I’m sorry for concerning everyone, I feel really guilty and bad about it. Take care everyone." UPDATE 2 Gonzalo has done an interview with EE. It's a hard listen. Edit: due to community pressure, EE has removed the interview. You can still find reuploads however.
It does, But Life goes on. Can't continue letting such stuff affect people. I was also hurt when the allegations happened. but it's his life from now on. I don't play any part in it. Neither would you, unless you know him personally.
@@KevinGomez-nw8jc Oh cool, and all the replies to his comment are overwhelmingly positive, not counting all of 2 negative replies at the time of typing this
There was an update from Vanessa a week or so ago with her celebrating Zero's birthday with him. They were having a meal and he was smiling. I hope he can continue to smile despite the hardships he's facing.
Ik this might be messed up too ask but how did he look did he lose weight or gain weight last time I saw a pic of him it was in October and he was looking thinner but idk if he fell off his weight loss journey due to everything that has happened to him
Tbh i feel bad for ZeRo’s mom. She had an abusive ex-husband, a daughter who tragically died, and now a son who did something horrible and now suicidal.
horrible maybe is a bit of a strong word. Since his mom is from chile I doubt she even cares about that part. From what I heard age of consent there is 14, so if anything she is probably confused.
@@ss-xv3fp The age of consent in Chile is 14. Snowolf had it right. (Given, there are restrictions on homosexual activity until you're 18, but that clearly doesn't apply here)
@@DGSnowolf In Chile, it is frowned upon for an adult to be a couple or marry a person under 18 years of age. The consent law in a sense helps teenage couples who want to get married, for example teenage couples who have early pregnancies. From the Chilean perspective, what ZeRo did is horrible. But people change, I hope he has recovered and does not do those bad things. Sorry for my bad English :(
The creepiest thing is we could figure ZeRo would be suicidal after this whole ordeal, but if it happened as late as March 2021, we could only imagine what torment he must've gone through for an entire 8 months time before he decided to attempt it.
In my eyes he didn't need to redeem himself. We don't need to dig up someone's past it's nobody's fucking business. But this is the internet this will happen to someone else I'm sure.
I like the sentiment of her tweet, but it's kind of a shitty thing to say. Like yeah the guy made people happy but he was also a legit predator and that's not something people get to just stop being because they make you laugh. I agree he should get help and I hope things get better for him, but this doesn't get to be pushed aside.
@Saul Jo 2 no he did a huge amount of good it even shows in the vid a bit, to say that he did no good is simply wrong, to make that conclusion on him is very ignorant.
@@beansfebreeze I think it’s one of the things that you need to look back on and use to better yourself as a person, I believe this is what he has been trying to do, it’s what a lot of people try to do, from the smallest cases of “I was edgy when I was younger and I’m not gonna do that again” to people that have done the unthinkable of murder, a lot of people do this and I think that’s what he is trying to do as well, and if you were to ask yourself if zero has changed from 2013 to present day you know what the answer would be
Since everyone's giving their 2 cents, I might as well... The thing that kinda irks me about everyone saying, "I hope he gets better"... how? He was in the path to being better... better than who he was at 19. How is he supposed to get better when the thing he loved, which is making content, was ripped from him? He made a mistake... a BIG one. & Hell, it probably would've saved him if he just said, "I was a dumbass kid. That's not who I am anymore." He doesn't have to go back to being a Smash player; but at least let him go back to making content. Let him work on the thing that WAS making him a better person. It doesn't help that all his friends abandoned him. Therapy means very little if you're doing it alone & with no purpose. & That's probably why attempted suicide.
@@brandondapro nah..this video is bringing awareness to a situation that has escalated to the point where someone has attempted suicide due to the constant berating of their character and the loss of everything that made them who they are. Not saying Zero is 100% innocent, but to ignore someone’s humanity and make them feel like they have to take their own life...this information needs to be brought to light.
That's the catch 22 of the cancel culture mob. When they find out you fucked up once 10 years ago, they lead you to the gallows. They force you to speak for yourself, but no matter what you say, it was the wrong answer. Praying zero makes it out of the hole he is in. But what scares me most is that this cycle of social media extrajudicial "justice" only just begun.
100% agree fam. On top of that: If he's really going to take accountability that means taking everything people deem as worthy punishment. Including the dismantling of his online presence, and platform.
I never met Zero. But I felt like we were friends after watching him from 2014 to 2020. Thanks for all the good times bud, you helped me stay positive about life. I pray you get back to being your true self and turn your life around. God bless.
Both are wrong, one tried to harass a teen, the other group went overboard in cancel culture to the point they made the other party trying to end his life.
What does that even mean. He is an immigrant with no education whose name reveals "pedophile" when looked up online. He can't get work, lost all his friends, lost his girlfriend, and lost his legacy. I don't think he belongs in the smash community but I don't think it's right that as a culture we just expect people to "move on" without any reasonable forms of support.
@@rickmoranisstan yeah, infact that event happened in the past. Even if it got found out now, what he was doing in the moment it got found out was good. He had became a far better person. And bringing that up just ruined all chances of him continuing a path of redemption given he lost all possibilities of redemption.
@@tbc1880 Asking children for nude photos is a federal offense. If you think it's so harmless maybe you should try it. Once you get caught just tell the child's parents that what you did was just a mistake that you made in the past. I'm sure they'll understand. Then, continue making millions of dollars off your audience of children.
Everyone hated him for being foreign and constantly winning. But he didn’t give up and proved everyone that he was the big deal! Sad to see how everything ended! :(
I do feel bad but then I don’t at the same time. I feel bad for him losing everything and I don’t feel bad that he got caught. He tried to make excuses “I am socially awkward and it happened” can’t make excuses like that for your mistakes.
@@EmmureMARIO64 I feel as though I can forgive him. When I started watching him I got sad when he stopped unknowing about the accusations. People make mistakes and I feel like even though what he did was bad he deserves some sort of sympathy for the person hes become. It is sad that one mistake can cause you to lose everything and no one deserves that trauma.
@@EmmureMARIO64 ZeRo didnt male excuses , he just gave reason for why he thought he did it and his mind set at the time, he clearly says he doesnt want any sympathy
Suicide and any of this is a harsh topic but something is true... if he tried to commit suicide he is regretful for his actions and probably is desperate because he wants forgiveness, but people in the community won’t forgive even if he feels regretful. I hope we can give a second chance to someone who deserves it, like for example ZeRo.
Exactly. Mfs on Twitter always act like if you messed up once in life that you’re immediately a monster and should be banished. Some of the most successful people in the world made monstrous mistakes and reformed to become what they’re now. Second chances seem to have been a thing of the past and it’s truly sad to see. Obviously there are circumstances to second chances where someone is absolutely ineligible for a second chance, like a mass murderer. But I digress. What I’m really trying to say is that I admire how you were able to catch onto the fact that he feels unbelievable regret for his actions and had all the cards stacked against him growing up. When you really think about it, the people who shunned him relentlessly are the real monsters of society, and in a sense are far more immoral than Zero in the whole situation.
@@juicedup14 You know very well how long ago that was. Even a predator can change. Plus there are far worse things than what he did 7 years ago, so we should not make life 100% impossible to live by perma-banning him of the only thing he is good at, we should help him become a better person. If you feel no guilt for nearly pushing him to suicide, then leave now, get help.
In many ways I feel bad for Gonzalo, he went through so much as a kid and young adult that I'm surprised he made it as far as he did in his career, I acknowledge what he did was wrong but I feel as if we should give him another chance as he wasn't a terrible person just because be made one poor choice. He deserves a second chance and I really hope he recovers and becomes the happiest person he can be.
That Making a “poor choice “ gets me. This wasn’t a choice. He acted and knew. I hope he recovers but to come back nah. That is the least he can do. No room for this behavior. A second chance will be him moving on.
@@OrlandoO2M This is the shit that makes people suicidal. The one thing that made his life was being a content creator. Like yeah the tournament stuff is off the table but he should still be able to make TH-cam content.
It's been hard for Zero. People like him or others who do inappropriate things when they're young don't inherently understand the consequences of their actions. Gamers (especially pros) naturally spend a ton of time practicing in front of a screen and at the same time, not gaining a lot of the social skills that are crucial for understanding healthy relationships. They don't get the attention of girls in high school. Suddenly or gradually, they gain a big reputation and following and they receive a lot of attention. A small % of that attention is from girls in that specific game's scene. And from the hardcore gamer's perspective, attention from a cute girl (likely younger) is an intoxicating feeling. Being older, there is this excitement in knowing that you can "show them things they haven't seen before", all while continuing the conversation and fueling this "talent/popularity crush" that keeps them interested. At age 19, most serious gamers don't know shit about themselves and romance, so they certainly don't know anything about how their actions affect the mental health of a younger person.. they're intentions are harmless - because they just want to continue to have a person interested in them. We can observe and critique "he's 19 he should've known better", but it isn't really fair. (Just because you or I would've known better at 19, doesn't mean that he would). The parents who raised him, the society and culture around vulnerability he grew up in determined how he made his choices. And I don't believe he made any of his choices with the knowledge and intent to harm anyone. A victim spoke up and said "I just wanted an apology". And this is where so many people are fucking up. They're so afraid of being put in the spotlight and cancelled that they lie, deny, and pretend they don't remember anything. The public has strong BS detectors. Obviously we would remember sending explicit messages to a person who showed interest in us. I'm over 30 and I remember all the interactions I had with every girl I've ever been interest in.. Here is the solution: Don't lie. Be vulnerable. Zero eventually came around after he realized he couldn't lie is his way out. Here are some important sentences to use when you've hurt others: "I did something inappropriate." (explain what you did) "I was younger and unaware of the consequence of my actions." (explain the consequence of your actions) "I feel ashamed of what I did" (explain why) "I don't have a healthy relationship with myself or know how to do this with others" (explain how you're going to do better, ie: I am seeing a therapist". "I wish I could go back and change the way I behaved. I've learned a lesson the hard way and I hope with time you can forgive my mistakes. I apologize to those I've hurt and to anyone who has looked up to me as a role model. I intend to continue growing and these are not mistakes that will ever be made by me again". Own up to your mistakes and acknowledge the pain you've caused. People will forgive you if you are authentic and can communicate your real feelings. This applies to every relationship in your life, whether it be friends, lovers, or long time partners. It's okay to make mistakes! At age 30 you will look back on your 20s and cringe at how stupid you were. It's not okay to pretend they don't exist when others are being hurt. Wishing Zero and everyone else struggling some good fortune.
Update that wasnt specified in the video: but on April 17th ZeRo's birthday Vannesa and Zero were having a birthday lunch that was uploaded to both of their stories on instagram. I think hes ok as of rn
What Zero did was obviously wrong, and he should pay the price that's necessary for his misdeeds. That, however, does not consist of his life, as this person still has the potential to be a better person and change his ways.
he changed his ways years ago. years after what he did but years before his cancellation. cancel culture doesnt allow you to change your ways. the only way sadly, is taking his own life. and it should never come to this. its horrible.
@@keithmcginnis2802 Actually yeah. There was a story of zero and another underage girl having a flirtatious relationship however, once zero discovered the age of the girl, he said he was not comfortable with the relationship.
@@keithmcginnis2802 there must be but I cannot find any. Many have said the events I have stated are true but that is not evidence. I'll attempt to find something
Video titled beginning to end for the sake of sticking to the series naming, but might unironically fit considering his situation now. I’m sad that this went so far and hope he recovers safely.
At least he survived. I'm not gonna lie I shed a tear after seeing the image of him with the paramedics. At this point I think he needs to get help with his suicidal stuff and then come back to TH-cam slowly.
@@scroob9016 Well that depends on him, there is a lot of youtubers that have done way worst and they there are like nothing, I think Zero has a chance on coming back to youtube, but as I said all depends on him.
Zero returning to TH-cam is way easier said than done. Someone who exploits minors for their own twisted gratification shouldn't be around online for obvious reasons, doubt the Smash community will ever want to associate with him, especially with the shit show that happened last year. I'm pretty sure he has made enough money to do something else with his life.
@@Weareonenation303 not really, there are a lot of youtubers that had made way worst things than what Zero did and they are still on youtube like nothing. He can´t go back to smash tourneys, but he can go back to be a content creator on youtube and will depend more on the ppl if they want to watch his content. I doubt the last part, being a content creator doesn´t leave that much tbh.
Never make a human a hero. They're human. You like them selfishly while they make your ego happy, yet you turn feral on them once they do something in life your ego doesn't like.
If you think that a video game ''pro'' player is a national hero, please get a better view in your environment and a better culture. Your comment is absolutely sad.
8:12 holy shit, I've always heard the saying "A picture means a million words" but I've never experienced it until now. So many emotions, especially with knowing what I know now about Nairo and ZeRo.
He still is to me. The Zero that committed tjose atrocities isn't the Zero I love. We all have a past. I still watch his old videos. Because THAT Zero helped me out of a very dark place in my life. I pray he is well
ngl once covid happened I really only kept up with Smash content through ZeRo... his absence left a void that hurt the game and the community. I understand cancelling him but he really did put a lot of work and love into the game.
I'm so sad and angry that people ruined his life and drove him to attempt suicide over stupid mistakes he made as a teenager, which he clearly deeply regrets and has moved past. The man has suffered enough, I am literally begging the community to let him move past his mistakes and show him support, or at least tolerance. Accountability for mistakes means nothing if we don't allow people the chance to repent and move forward, if we can't forgive.
@@SimonThomas-qr8nv how else do we move past things other then to let them die, acceptance just brings all the negative emotions back for both parties not even picking a side but the notion that other people got involved in the business of two individuals was what started this especially something so personal, the fact is not everything has to be made public, like you said if there are no charges then the court of public opinion should never have a say in if a person is guilty or innocent, what lead to this wasn't all ZeRo it was everyone that spread the information around too
it's not up to us to forgive -- we may well want to move on but the reality is that trauma is forever. These things must be taken seriously now so that they are taken seriously in the future -- abusers can't be led to believe they can get away with anything.
@@daytimecloudsurfer thats not the point though whether people forgive ZeRo doesnt matter because everyone that isnt the the 2 people involved should have never known, it was private, again if this isnt brough up in court then there is no reason it should ever have been made public, people act like we need to know everything about peoples lives just because they are well known but dont want their own business getting out there either
@@sdbzfan1 you just summed up the entire 21st century… that’s all anyone cares about now, is bringing their personal lives, or others’ for that matter, public so that they can maybe feel like they exist and feel a little bit better about themselves. It’s all just a cruel joke…
@@carvman217 yeah it sucks, I get the idea that bad people shouldn't get through life scot free but who are we as people not involved in the incident to decide how tramatic something is for someone, when its a court case its on full display but when ever people go public with "oh this happened to me years ago and I wasn't strong enough to speak up about it" um hello you have a family you can talk to not strangers on the internet, when ever that happens it just reaks of I'm gonna ruin this person regardless of it's true or not, keep private matters private until authorities get involved, too many people want internet fame
And the smash scene will continue to support him by saying "I hope he recovers. I hope he reforms. Get better zero. Zero attempting to kill himself hurts. Suicide isn't an option zero." Then turn around and say "he can't come back to the smash scene." How is he suppose to get better with no income? How can he get better if all that will remain is him being jobless and eventually end up homeless especially when his whole income supported not only him, but his family. The smash scene infuriates me.
@@danielcain8136 Bro he was ALREADY redeeming himself. His actions were 5+ years ago and he showed no repeated actions. He even has a wife now. He isn't a pedo. He was a stupid teenager.
Great work on this video man, all the researching and searching for posts/videos on this must take quite a bit of work! Seeing zero go from fighting so hard at tournaments to scrape by to smash 4 win streak was pretty inspiring back in the day, it's a shame that he made the mistakes that he did, I don't think he could make a comeback into the scene at this point... But he really shouldn't give up on life, I just hope he finds the help he needs, learns from his mistakes.
After knowing a guy who pretended to be a underage girl to expose someone in another community. That Katie person's messages reminded me of that situation. Guy lost a lot after he was exposed, but he didn't have millions of people who seen it. It was only some guild members and a few other big guilds for the game and such. Happened 3 years ago now but most people have already forgotten about it. I wasn't a fan of this me too movement since it was more like, "me too twitter". I don't know any of those people who made any of those claims so for me to believe them in a social media platform seems a unethical. I rather the police play the role of underage girl and catch people. Most of those children went to twitter before their own parents. Which is what bothered me more. I'm not a fan of these anonymous profiles. The way all this was handled will forever bother me. And the people surprised at the attempted suicides? You could have seen this coming a mile away. Especially for Zero, he told his story often. All I think about is what I would do if I lost the best job of my life after coming from nothing and having no other skills. For me I would have a back up plan. But all Zero was focused on after making it big was losing weight. That's the last thing I remembered. He was trying to change his life and he still can if he can come out of this and get focused.
@@thebibleisaxiomatic8178 Yeah, to add you your point: no one is truly an "adult" at age 19. I don't care what anyone Fucking says. Sure, leagally, but mentally? Physically? Hell no. You think anyone actually transforms into an "adult" the second they turn 18? It just doesn't happen. You are not anywhere near mentally different then when you were 16 years old to 19, you just aren't.
@@thebibleisaxiomatic8178 he was 19 when there was evidence that he knew her age. You don’t have to “grow up” to know that. Doesn’t take you to your mid twenties to figure that out. Plus making the other girl feel uncomfortable. Y’all finding excuses for him. It’s done he ain’t coming back. He couldn’t even admit to stuff when he got called out. That shows he wanted to run from it than face. That was his true character.
@EETV being 19 isn’t being a child. Let’s first get this age thing correct. Phrasing as such is dangerous. At 19 yes we are “reckless” but we also know better than that. So let’s stop excusing that. I do also agree his environment was riddled with perverts. So yeah he probably thought it was ok. But that just show how child like this smash community is. Adults hanging with kids grilling them while the kids are pretending to like the adults. Reasons why Nintendo hates the smash community. To make adults acting like kids. And vice versa. But we for sure can agree. F Captain Zach
@@OrlandoO2M maybe "you" knew better at age 19 and if you did? Hey, props. But most of us did not. You are 100% still a child at age 19 hell even 20's. Does it vary? Absolutely. But in Zero's case especially with his life and exposure to what was happening around him, the guy was still a kid in so many ways. He did not "know better."
@@eduardo3725 that's the thing. All the alleged gross things, none of it happen. All of it was lies ot misrepresented. All except for the ice one. It's also not defending a pedo. Quit acting elementary.
@@eduardo3725 stop putting words in my mouth. I never said it wasn't gross, just said all the others were lies or misrepresented than what actually happened. Like I said, stop acting elementary.
Okay so this is fucking stupid how everyone overlooks this (27:30 in video) Apex 2013: January 11th Zero's date of birth: Aprith 17th, 1995 This puts Zero at AGE 17 during this event, meaning he and Jisu were BOTH MINORS. And he was only two years older than her on top of that. The stuff following Katie is definitely worse, but people treating this as if it's as bad as rape are absurd. I've seen celebrities get away with WAY WORSE SHIT because they had the gall to act like nothing was wrong. ZeRo admits his mistakes and lays himself bare to people, and all they want is more blood. If you actually think making him want to kill himself is admirable or isn't going too far, then you're disgusting and cannot claim moral superiority.
I wrote this as a reply to someone else, but I feel like this just needs to be said in general. As much as I empathize with Katie over what she's been through, she's not innocent in this whole ordeal either. Not for what she's been through, absolutely not. But for how she handled it. "All I want is a genuine apology" Then why in the FUCK did she not just DM him asking for one? Because her family deemed it "wasn't safe", absolute fucking bullshit. Any remote OUNCE of danger was completely snuffed out at this point: Zero had a loving girlfriend (fiancé even, I think? I dunno though) taking away any incentive to even THINK about doing something like this again. He's in his mid 20's, having FAR outgrown the impulses that 19 year old him had. He took the past 6-7 years to grow and change from that point and had already done so long before she even put out her statement. He pretty much took all the right steps except for contacting the victim directly to apologize, and even then he probably didn't do it because he was ashamed of himself and was scared to hurt her further. And hell, even if he somehow HADN'T changed, she now had the mental fortitude and development to be able to tell the difference, and if he acted out of line it would only give HER more evidence. It was literally a WIN-WIN FOR HER. So why make this a public ordeal and not just DM him for the "closure" she so desperately wanted? Intended or not, she WILLINGLY took the most toxic and destructive route she could. She took a private affair that she herself ADMITTED to just wanting to keep between her and Zero, and BLASTED that shit out to the public, ruining his life in the process despite her saying that's not what she wanted to do. She could say sorry in that twitlonger until she's fucking blue in the face, it doesn't matter because she made the choice to do it anyway. And now that Zero has attempted suicide for all the bullshit that he's already changed and moved on from, everything that he worked his ASS off these past few years to atone for, I sure hope that she realizes that her statement was pretty much the main drive for all the harassment in the first place. Victim blaming? Maybe. But the negativity surrounding that term is absolutely ridiculous anyway, considering that there are indeed circumstances where blame DOES fall on the victim, and this is one of those times.
Kinda doubt Katie is even real at this point. Not hard to make an accusation behind a blank account and have all the victim worshippers attack the accused.
ZeRo is one my greatest inspirations for competitive gaming/being a content creator. I've been following his career since Brawl. I really hate it had to end like this....
If you watched ZeRo for a long time I guarantee you. He is easily by far one of the most wholesome and caring person to exist. It pains me deeply knowing he took the suicidal option. His journey from nothing to the king of 4. Was inspiring for me. I loved him. And you know what? I still do.
@@lightbrand_ I knew someone was gonna comment this. Yes I know what he did was wrong. It was almost 7 YEARS AGO. He was 19 that’s pretty much the prime age for stuff to happen.
@@Kishotto Sadly that’s just the way cancel culture does it’s thing, you can do something years ago, and when you clearly are not like that anymore Twitter thinks you have the same mentality and want you off the planet. Fuck Twitter lol
@@rosefire3929 the craziest thing is people will constantly ride zero for online convo when they let nairo scott free for his bs and actual sexual contact. It is insane how in reality it should be nairo getting the flack along with his suck up friends, not some guy who did a bad online convo years ago and immediately cut it off once he knew the age. Not to mention the behemoth like mountain of false allegations Jisu made.
Met him at LTC4, I asked him to play a game, which he said yes after the tournament. I stayed till the end to watch him win the tournament. Get well soon ZeRo. We miss you.
Even though what ZeRo did was bad, I did not think it was worth attempting suicide. I miss this man and his content that he created, I loved and watched many of his videos for entertainment and tips. He was the person that inspired me to play smash and get better. there's probably a low chance for him to comeback but I hope he will. Update: ZeRo did and interview with ee.
its not what he did that made him want to die but what he lost. I also want him to come back, I feel what he did wasn't even close to as bad as what other players in the smash community had done.
@@bliff8523 Yeah I completely agree, ZeRo was younger and I'm sure now that he wouldn't do this. I don't think ZeRo deserved all of that hate compared to others in the smash community.
@@slicendice5832 what he did was pretty bad and especially since he was the only one to try and gaslight the victims I’d say that kinda makes it worse. I don’t wish death on him and I hope he recovers, but I don’t think he should be offered a place back in the community due to how much he struggle to tell the truth before he left
@@casey1038 i mean, most of them didn't even said a word and just vanished without having to experience the amount of hate he went through, and even worse considering a lot of people did way worse things than him, i also think he doesn't necessarily deserve a place on the Smash community but he do deserves to move on and start again, he did something wrong, he deservedly paid for it, a second chance doesn't look like an unfair offer
One if my biggest dreams was to play him in a set (knowing I would lose) because he was my idol for the longest time....And then the allegations came. I wish 2020 never happened.
He did some messed up stuff, but I don't want him dead. I kinda miss him. He was one of my main inspirations for trying to take Smash seriously. I saw all of the cool clips and wanted to do that stuff. I wanted to know how to do the cool combos. He and many others showed me that there was more to the game than just fumbling about and spamming. There was a form to hone. I was crushed when everything happened and I'm still broken up about it. Even though I know that he's probably never coming back, I hope he gets better.
@@lawyermorty6735 Would you not miss a close friend/family member if they were revealed to have done dreadful things, and subsequently left your life? Someone that you were close to in some way for YEARS? Sure, James wasn't a brother or close friend to Zero, but he was certainly inspired and looked up to him. One day, someone you look up to or like will have a Zero situation, and you'll be eating your words. I pray it doesn't happen but maybe it's the only way to show people like you that it is possible to miss someone like that.
@@lawyermorty6735 You can both be disgusted and miss someone. You can miss the good parts of someone. Not everyone is good or bad, perfect or full of imperfections. If life were that black and white then nobody would miss him along with the other personalities that have left the scene.
@@lawyermorty6735 you use the term "grooming" so loosely, becuz you hated what zero was before all this just becuz he found success, admit it that, and i might respond toto your response to this. 1. He was 18 and thought she was 16 cuz she lied about her age, a 2 year difference, even outside if that, a 4 year difference big deal. 18 and 19 year olds can be just as immature as other younger teenagers. You dont magically become super mature and adult the moment you turn 18 and infallible of making any mistakes. Seeing you think that and think Zero was a mature adult in this situation at this point of his life just becuz his age hit a certain number, shows how immature you really are. As does your lack of forgiveness. The 14 year old in question forgives him, but you cant becuz you hated him years before this mess even happened. 2. They literally just flirted online awkwardly as teenagers often do. Where is the crime here? Answer: there was none. It's not like any legal action can be taken against zero nor there ever was. 3. How come people never bat an eye at 20 year old dating a 30 year old? Or call it grooming? Again, you dont just magically hit a mature button in your brain once you are 18, im some countries, youre not considered an adult until 21. In others, you are considered one before 18. Yet no one calls a 20 year old dating a 30 yr old grooming, when it most certainly is. The age gap is a milestone in life exp, especially in that age becuz you are expected to have a job and fend for yourself and have a house. 18 year olds are basically treated the same as 14 year olds by society, as far as expectations go. 4. Finally, i would hardly call someone you never met, or even saw photos of, someone you dont even know irl, capable of being groomed. The groomer has to be in a relationship with the one being groomed, which they were not. All they did was literally just talk online, and it got awkward, and they eventually stopped talking. This kind of thing happens all the time, Zero got flack for it cuz he became famous over smash, so some people hated him for that.
Vanessa posted a pic on her story or ZeRo/Gonzalo it looks new, I think he was wearing those hospital bracelets, but I miss him and I hope he gets better
I dk why the algorithm blessed with your channel, but I’m glad it did. The videos are done well, references on point with the music, diggin music heavy.
Found out about zero during the pandemic, and watching his channel made me want to know more about him. It's sad that he made these mistakes, but I do feel that he deserves a second chance.
@Mike 9001 just a thought but... Do you know how hard for himto admit to something that big? The dude clearly has been trying to grow as a person throughout the years, he was helping his single mother financially by himself, hes found someone who loves him, awkwardness and all. AND hes a immigrant. That takes guts. What he did was horrible and he should be paying the price for his actions but he shouldn't be told to kill himself and constantly be told to never come back to his only job. Not to mention the dude doesn't even have a stable education. I seriously believe he deserves a second chance. With all the odds stacked against him in the moment the accusations came out against him, can you really say you wouldn't defend yourself and deny everything at least once? It's crazy how we as a society want people who clearly aren't the same person they were years ago to just end their lives or just to ruin their lives to the point they have nothing. I just think it's inhumane. Lastly, I'm always seeing the comments like "I'm never going to forgive you for what you did" or "I forgive you ZeRo" and I'm just like, your input on the situation doesn't mean a damn thing. We as the people looking from the outside in do not have a say in forgiving or not forgiving ZeRo. That is up to the victim herself. And if she forgives or doesn't forgive him it shouldn't matter what we think, we all should just move on, whether that's us just accepting the fact the victim may have or may have not forgiven him and we go back to watching him and his videos or deleting him from our minds.
Just found out about the suicide attempt. That's honestly so crazy and shocking in a way. A year ago I would consume his content despite not being an actual follower of his. The stuff he did was bad, but I hope he recovers and gets help, and continues living on, not forgetting what he did but trying to move forward with his mistakes.
I feel like in general with all the mass media we have these days as a society, we have forgotten to empathize with other people. The reason I say this is because we are constantly desensitized by this because we see tragedies all the time in the media. One mistake today will land you in a life of absolute hell. What he did was horrible, but not unforgivable. Also, if we don’t allow people to grow out away of their horrible actions in the past and keep on reminding them of said actions, what is the point for them to live their life. (This is all speculation) Also I could argue that ever since that was about 7-8 years ago and there wasn’t any new allegations since, it could mean he grew in some capacity.
There even is a story proving he has grown. He had a flirtatious conversation with a minor however once he knew about the age, he said he didn't want to continue the relationship
I understand why he attempted suicide. When he started chatting with a 14 year old and that ice cube thing happened he was at the peak of his carrier and must probably felt like he was untouchable. After he stopped going to tournaments and switched to streaming and youtube he most likely knew that if this comes out he would lose everything he built and tried to avoid it at all costs at the start of the bloodbath. When everything started to crumble he tried to shake it off but when there was no other way then directly answering the questions he must have known that his life was over. Think about it for a second. We already know that he has no education because of the bullying he went through in his childhood, his family is completely broken, he never learned anything else then gaming and after this he will never come back to the internet again and have any success there. After he lost his girlfriend what do you think is left? No education, job experience, love life, family, opportunity to come back and marked as a child predator. What he did was wrong and he had to own up to it but he lost everything. In that situation what should he do? I am surprised he waited this long to kill himself to be honest.
Suicide is still not the answer. You may have no education, no love life, no proper family, no livelihood. But there's always light at the end of the tunnel. It all starts with accountability and psychiatric help. I get it that death threats were too much and unneeded, but he should have been able to look past that and move on. Just like what he did during tournaments. But then again, it's easier to say to look past hate than doing it.
@@varunr9744 I know that suicide is not the answer to this but I do understand why he did it. In a situation like this when everybody on earth seems to hate you without any chance of redemption and you have no education as an immigrant in America it must be extremely hard to see anything worth it anymore. Sometimes the Internet is a really cold and heartless place.
When I was 19 I was addicted to drugs and found myself going through the court system. Today I'm 36 and a wildly different person. I can't imagine if someone looked at the way I was talking to girls when I was that age and used it to judge the person I am today.
@@danielmolina2003 do you really think that its relevant enough to edit a video that was already finished more than likely days before a post that he probably didnt see that contained no info whatsoever?
@@John-nk3ej i prefer ultimate where you can find a character that suits your play style and tierlists don't completely define your character like melee does
I hope he comes back man, I miss his videos and his good humor. He made mistakes sure but he definitely deserves a 2nd chance, he had a rough life and it's not fair to see him like this.
Man I remember meeting Zero at The Final Battle at Panorama City, CA back in like 2015. I was so excited to meet him and I took a picture with him and I gave him two gift I made for him and M2K. It breaks my heart knowing how this situation was handled. We need more grace towards people as they atone and repent for their past mistakes. God bless him and his friends and family.
ive been going into a deep habit hole with the whole smash controversy an if wasn't for one of your videos I would of never started digging and reading deep into it! Anyways keep up the good work brotha and keep making more smash videos like these they're addicting to watch!!
I want zero back! he doesn't deserve any of this hate! he was just a desperate teenager who wanted attention, but people hated him just because he won games.
The phrase "It takes ages to make a reputation and seconds to ruin it" resumes pretty well what happened with ZeRo in these years. He got carried away in the past and feared the true. I'm really sorry from him but i can't get the "I got abuse so i can do the same to others" excuse.
Very well put video, however I would have also mentioned that Jisu also used lies in her claims, like the lies about Vanessa, yet everybody shrugged it off. Zero made mistakes, but Jisu just wants the man dead so she can steal his spotlight. You can't really be personally mad at a person just because he shared his anime waifu with you, I'm also sure she doesn't really care about Katie and just used her to her advantage. Jisu really gives me Zack vibes if you know what I mean.
I had been regularly watching ZeRo's content since 2019 to relax. 10AM EST meant 7:30pm IST in my place. A few vids away from allegations his videos were beginning to be a little cringe. When the allegations happened I was shocked. I basically found other hobbies and stuff to not let this petty stuff affect my life, since he was just another Internet person. I don't know him well. Neither of us on TH-cam do. His past may be dark but he decided to be manipulative at the end. That is not right. It still gives an impression that he never matured as a person. Hence the backlash. And the suicide story at the end, may be sad but he brought it upon himself. Had he admitted in the first statement, things would have been different by now. But it's very sad to see him rise so high and fall so hard, that he decided to end himself. But he was probably blessed , that god gave him a second chance. I hope, despite all these problems of no proper education, no livelihood, no life partner he gets all the help he needs and is able to redeem himself as a better person in life. Should he return to the smash community? I don't know, probably not. I'll let the community weirdos be a better judge to that. In what way should he face the consequences? Can't say. I'll let the judicial system be a better judge to that. Also, about Hent@i. I don't understand the smash community condones showing explicit stuff to minors, but posting explicit stuff on stage builder/shared content is OK? Smash bros is a game where I am sure a majority of it's audience would be minors, who are oblivious to the competitive community's existence. And posting explicit content for then to see, is fine? I don't know about you all but something's not right here. Hence, the name "community weirdos". Should he deserve a second chance in life? Absolutely! No law exists in this earth, which is so unforgiving that you must die for all your sins. The judicial systems in Scandinavian countries, believe in change, respect, redemption and humanity, not punishment. Hence they are the most humane judicial system ever, and it's working very well in their favor with very little re-bound in criminal cases (less than 20%). Compared to a whopping 60+% rebound in criminal cases in the US. Which is a joke. I personally never wished him to die, nor does he deserve the excessive, unneeded death threats. That doesn't make us any better either. We as a society, are inhibiting him to face accountability and no law, or justice system allows us to do that in any way. It's basically committing murder. And I don't support that either. Anyone can change for the better. Accepting them to take accountability only makes us more humane. spreading hate and wishing death, will only make us cruel, unforgiving and most importantly WEAK. There's a saying: "A WEAK can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of STRONG" by Mahatma Gandhi No hard feelings but the US (and some other first-world countries, I'd rather not mention) because of it's unforgiving nature, is becoming weaker day-by-day. Whatever you may say to deny it, the past 2021 capitol riots, and the rise in hate-crimes against asians proves it big time. Again, "actions speak louder than words".
Can't seem to find the song on your channel that plays around 25:20. Is it an unreleased song? Just curious. Also amazing video; really helped clarify a lot of things about the situation that I didn't already know.
This bit at 12:20 is fucking haunting. For those unaware that kid he is approaching and talking to is Sparky, a young smash player that met Sky at PAX and ended up moving in with him, got molested by the pro Smasher MacD repeatedly while everyone at the house covered it up and then was booted from the house by Sky. If I remember correctly this part here is somewhere around the time the abuse of Sparky started.
So from what I understand zero was 19 and the girl was 15 and he asked for a nude. IMO having his whole life stripped away from him for something he did as a teenager who was also a foreigner with different customs is kinda overkill and now he wants to kill Himself, what he did wasn’t good and we all know this but this punishment IMO was to strict. He couldn’t even legally drink yet and was a teenager in age but an adult legally. I feel high school boys 18yos across America would be going to jail if there personal lives came out. I may get attacked but zero needs to come back.
Nah mate, when you're 19 you should know better than to do shit like this. Not to mention how he lied about it after it all came out. He's a predator that should not have access to a platform that readily gives him access to so many children. I hate to see him go, but he's not proven himself responsible to have the level of power he did. I don't wish for him to lose his life, it's undoubtedly sad that he tried to take it, but I wish for him to get help and to not come back, he's proven he cannot be trusted.
@@fangiscool1 I'm sorry? I'm going to assume you're referring to only Zero in this instance and not in general. They're an adult who preyed on a minor and then lied about the allegations of such even after they supposedly "changed". You're telling me the people who think that way are all children? The bastard knew better than to do what he did and if he was truly remorseful he wouldn't have lied about it, he does not deserve his platform back.
I think Vanessa at her early age truly dated Zero to experience the Joy and and excitement of being with someone that kept on winning,She probably Liked the thrill she got from dating someone as successful as him in his prime.Once that feeling was no longer they're for her to enjoy she left.
I love these videos! Keep it up :) I don’t really have anything to add to the convo, but ZeRo was an idol growing up along with captain zack later on. I even dressed up as ZeRo for halloween, kind of ironic looking back lol. It sucks what monsters they turned out to be.
Zero inspired me, shows us all what’s possible when you become great at something you love. I don’t think he’s a creep or a predator but I know he’s made mistakes in the past. I hope he takes care of himself so he can come back and continue making content
@@NoraDG9000 its seems to me that you are the salty one that doesn't know what he is talking about tbh "How did he fix his errors" 1- it was an error not errors 2- uhh.. Have you not been alive the past 7 years? You know.. After this thing happened? After cutting ties aith her and becoming a better person?
@@NoraDG9000 If you're talking about Jisu, she isn't a victim. She's a manipulative piece of garbage that made everything up about zero for no reason other than to harm his reputation.
I personally feel, anyone deserves a shot at redemption. I truly hope Gonzalo is well and gets the help he needs. owning up to his mistakes takes a lot of strength and despite done wrong I truly respect him for that especially given his situation.
Deadass that robe Sakurai gave Zero and M2K I think correct me if I'm wrong. It would be one of the biggest honors because Sakurai created one of the most important pieces of entertainment in my life in Smash bros. Scratch that Smash bros is art a masterpiece nonetheless
Thank you everybody for watching, subscribing, and sharing your opinions.
UPDATE
Zero made a community post to his TH-cam channel April 26th:
"Thank you everyone for the beautiful messages and birthday wishes. Life has been insane. I’m posting something this week to update you guys. I’m sorry for concerning everyone, I feel really guilty and bad about it. Take care everyone."
UPDATE 2
Gonzalo has done an interview with EE. It's a hard listen.
Edit: due to community pressure, EE has removed the interview. You can still find reuploads however.
epic
The background music was too loud to be able to clearly understand Vanessa speak.
@But,Eye LoveU what did she do?
new update incoming
Zero released a statement on his TH-cam channel. All what Jisu and Leften accused are fake.
This legitimately hurts. That's all I can really say to describe it, it just hurts.
It does, But Life goes on. Can't continue letting such stuff affect people. I was also hurt when the allegations happened. but it's his life from now on. I don't play any part in it. Neither would you, unless you know him personally.
Almost hurts worse than etikas death
It hurt for a little bit then I move on. as my great cousin said, it is what it is
Maybe for you but maybe you were better off just not becoming attached to the individual you never knew or idk his content was pretty funny tho lmao
@@usernotfound1191 true
Damn, crazy how winning tournaments to make ends meet became the least of his worries now.
That punpun profile pic tho 🤩
@@NoFairiesAllowed got me depressed thinking about it again lol
@@NoFairiesAllowed Was gonna comment that, too. Punpun!
the best manga ever written.
@@superlelch314 That's Vagabond nigga
Fun fact: ZeRo actually posted on his Instagram story a few days back, reposting a 26th birthday wish from Vanessa
He commented back on Vanessa’s latest post just now
@@KevinGomez-nw8jc Oh cool, and all the replies to his comment are overwhelmingly positive, not counting all of 2 negative replies at the time of typing this
Vanessa is 26?
@@JackOLanter ZeRo turned 26
@@KevinGomez-nw8jc whts her twitter handle? can i see the post?
Ur editing is so good plz make more of these types of vids!
Ok I will!
100% agree with this
69th like let go
Hey bro we need you to upload again
@@BentNeatly do u know about his update or the Ee interview and how a week or 2 ago he nearly died cuz of suicide
There was an update from Vanessa a week or so ago with her celebrating Zero's birthday with him. They were having a meal and he was smiling. I hope he can continue to smile despite the hardships he's facing.
Ik this might be messed up too ask but how did he look did he lose weight or gain weight last time I saw a pic of him it was in October and he was looking thinner but idk if he fell off his weight loss journey due to everything that has happened to him
@@RJ_1017 we don't know for sure but he did mention that he got thinner in the health interview posted the other week
So yeah.. That's unfortunate
Tbh i feel bad for ZeRo’s mom. She had an abusive ex-husband, a daughter who tragically died, and now a son who did something horrible and now suicidal.
horrible maybe is a bit of a strong word. Since his mom is from chile I doubt she even cares about that part. From what I heard age of consent there is 14, so if anything she is probably confused.
@@DGSnowolf the age of consent in Chile is 18
@@ss-xv3fp The age of consent in Chile is 14. Snowolf had it right.
(Given, there are restrictions on homosexual activity until you're 18, but that clearly doesn't apply here)
@@DGSnowolf In Chile, it is frowned upon for an adult to be a couple or marry a person under 18 years of age.
The consent law in a sense helps teenage couples who want to get married, for example teenage couples who have early pregnancies.
From the Chilean perspective, what ZeRo did is horrible.
But people change, I hope he has recovered and does not do those bad things.
Sorry for my bad English :(
@@mangolin2806 Changed throughout the 6 years beofre he got dragged back down. All of can see that already.
The creepiest thing is we could figure ZeRo would be suicidal after this whole ordeal, but if it happened as late as March 2021, we could only imagine what torment he must've gone through for an entire 8 months time before he decided to attempt it.
ZeRo is back. This was never the end for ZeRo. This was just the start of his redemption arc, and now he's a redeemed hero.
In my eyes he didn't need to redeem himself. We don't need to dig up someone's past it's nobody's fucking business. But this is the internet this will happen to someone else I'm sure.
@@theeternalslayer Those are true words of wisdom, my friend. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the rest of the internet fails to understand that.
"Humans are more than their mistakes, especially when they've put out more good into this world." I hope he gets the help he needs, and recovers.
I like the sentiment of her tweet, but it's kind of a shitty thing to say. Like yeah the guy made people happy but he was also a legit predator and that's not something people get to just stop being because they make you laugh. I agree he should get help and I hope things get better for him, but this doesn't get to be pushed aside.
@Saul Jo 2 no he did a huge amount of good it even shows in the vid a bit, to say that he did no good is simply wrong, to make that conclusion on him is very ignorant.
@@beansfebreeze I think it’s one of the things that you need to look back on and use to better yourself as a person, I believe this is what he has been trying to do, it’s what a lot of people try to do, from the smallest cases of “I was edgy when I was younger and I’m not gonna do that again” to people that have done the unthinkable of murder, a lot of people do this and I think that’s what he is trying to do as well, and if you were to ask yourself if zero has changed from 2013 to present day you know what the answer would be
smash is dying with out zero tbh
@@beansfebreeze He is not a predator!!!
Since everyone's giving their 2 cents, I might as well...
The thing that kinda irks me about everyone saying, "I hope he gets better"... how? He was in the path to being better... better than who he was at 19. How is he supposed to get better when the thing he loved, which is making content, was ripped from him?
He made a mistake... a BIG one. & Hell, it probably would've saved him if he just said, "I was a dumbass kid. That's not who I am anymore." He doesn't have to go back to being a Smash player; but at least let him go back to making content. Let him work on the thing that WAS making him a better person.
It doesn't help that all his friends abandoned him. Therapy means very little if you're doing it alone & with no purpose. & That's probably why attempted suicide.
This video disgusted me. He just tried killing himself a month ago and this guy is trying to capitalize on views.
@@brandondapro nah..this video is bringing awareness to a situation that has escalated to the point where someone has attempted suicide due to the constant berating of their character and the loss of everything that made them who they are. Not saying Zero is 100% innocent, but to ignore someone’s humanity and make them feel like they have to take their own life...this information needs to be brought to light.
That's the catch 22 of the cancel culture mob. When they find out you fucked up once 10 years ago, they lead you to the gallows. They force you to speak for yourself, but no matter what you say, it was the wrong answer. Praying zero makes it out of the hole he is in. But what scares me most is that this cycle of social media extrajudicial "justice" only just begun.
@@AbstractMethods the description is “abused his power, hid away in shame”...
100% agree fam. On top of that: If he's really going to take accountability that means taking everything people deem as worthy punishment. Including the dismantling of his online presence, and platform.
I never met Zero. But I felt like we were friends after watching him from 2014 to 2020. Thanks for all the good times bud, you helped me stay positive about life. I pray you get back to being your true self and turn your life around. God bless.
Moral of the story: The only thing humanity loves more than drama, is ripping someone down and destroy them in front of everyone.
There's no moral to be taken from here.
Both are wrong, one tried to harass a teen, the other group went overboard in cancel culture to the point they made the other party trying to end his life.
I swear to god someone was taking down my comment.
Yeah, the twitter and reddit hate mob are pretty disgusting.
Dudes never wanted him better. They wanted to ruin him and the mobs succeeded, he cant live anymore
All I really want for Gonzalo is to get the help that he needs, and make a better of himself from now on
What does that even mean. He is an immigrant with no education whose name reveals "pedophile" when looked up online. He can't get work, lost all his friends, lost his girlfriend, and lost his legacy. I don't think he belongs in the smash community but I don't think it's right that as a culture we just expect people to "move on" without any reasonable forms of support.
@@rickmoranisstan yeah, infact that event happened in the past. Even if it got found out now, what he was doing in the moment it got found out was good. He had became a far better person. And bringing that up just ruined all chances of him continuing a path of redemption given he lost all possibilities of redemption.
@@tbc1880 Asking children for nude photos is a federal offense. If you think it's so harmless maybe you should try it. Once you get caught just tell the child's parents that what you did was just a mistake that you made in the past. I'm sure they'll understand. Then, continue making millions of dollars off your audience of children.
@@rickmoranisstan I think you got his comment mix up he was agreeing with you and saying Zero as in today was doing good not the past
@@rickmoranisstan i agree with you but that dude was agreeing with you too lmao, chill
This one is gonna hurt so bad to watch😔☹️ It’s like putting salt into an old wound again
but an old wound doesnt hurt when you put salt on it, only if you would rip of the scab.
@@DevelonLP ok Raul
Everyone hated him for being foreign and constantly winning. But he didn’t give up and proved everyone that he was the big deal! Sad to see how everything ended! :(
Are you the ReAL marrs?
The genesis winner?
@@Elias256-l Tyler Marss Martins. That would in fact not be me lol. I’m just a big fan of his.
@@genesis7winner678 Yes ik i said it as a joke lmao 🤣
@@Elias256-l lmao
I’m someone who was a huge fan of zero I watched his daily videos every day at 10:00 and it hurt so bad to watch this
So nostalgic and angry and sad all at the same time...
@Doodoointernet speak for yourself the comment section tells me otherwise
@Doodoointernet Well hey No One, nice to meet you. But not really.
Wait him and Vanessa broke up ? No wonder he tried to suicide, he literally lost everything in his life
I do feel bad but then I don’t at the same time. I feel bad for him losing everything and I don’t feel bad that he got caught. He tried to make excuses “I am socially awkward and it happened” can’t make excuses like that for your mistakes.
@@EmmureMARIO64 I feel as though I can forgive him. When I started watching him I got sad when he stopped unknowing about the accusations. People make mistakes and I feel like even though what he did was bad he deserves some sort of sympathy for the person hes become. It is sad that one mistake can cause you to lose everything and no one deserves that trauma.
@@fozzyfosterkid3274 I agree. I miss him Sadge
@@EmmureMARIO64 ZeRo didnt male excuses , he just gave reason for why he thought he did it and his mind set at the time, he clearly says he doesnt want any sympathy
@@dariuscross2946 if he said he wanted sympathy then people would have gone and tried to kill him
Seeing all his achievements and him going down like this gives me goosebumps, sadness and disappointment
But he did it if he didn’t he would have kept his sponsors and told the truth but it oblivious that it’s for a reason
@Saul Jo 2 At least he can be honest and take accountability. But he didn’t, so fuck em
@@andrewaguayo115 he did take responsibility bruh
You even watched the video?
I remember his story about picking mang0s in chili to afford food with his mom. Such a weird journey he took
Life is not a path you choose, it's a path you follow. Nobody knows were the destination is or whats around the next turn.
Damn... I can't believe he picked mangos in chili's, I really love their food...
mang0s
I would normally not be invested in a no commentary style video, but your music sets the mood. Great work!
*I guess there’s another chapter to this story*
Suicide and any of this is a harsh topic but something is true... if he tried to commit suicide he is regretful for his actions and probably is desperate because he wants forgiveness, but people in the community won’t forgive even if he feels regretful. I hope we can give a second chance to someone who deserves it, like for example ZeRo.
Exactly. Mfs on Twitter always act like if you messed up once in life that you’re immediately a monster and should be banished. Some of the most successful people in the world made monstrous mistakes and reformed to become what they’re now. Second chances seem to have been a thing of the past and it’s truly sad to see. Obviously there are circumstances to second chances where someone is absolutely ineligible for a second chance, like a mass murderer. But I digress. What I’m really trying to say is that I admire how you were able to catch onto the fact that he feels unbelievable regret for his actions and had all the cards stacked against him growing up. When you really think about it, the people who shunned him relentlessly are the real monsters of society, and in a sense are far more immoral than Zero in the whole situation.
@@GearMasters988 you also speak a truth, I wish this statement of forgiving zero gets bigger someday..
@@GearMasters988 We all live in a society.
Give a second chance to predator?
No wonder the smash community gets made fun of ny everyone. You all forgive this behavior and welcome them back.
@@juicedup14 You know very well how long ago that was. Even a predator can change. Plus there are far worse things than what he did 7 years ago, so we should not make life 100% impossible to live by perma-banning him of the only thing he is good at, we should help him become a better person. If you feel no guilt for nearly pushing him to suicide, then leave now, get help.
In many ways I feel bad for Gonzalo, he went through so much as a kid and young adult that I'm surprised he made it as far as he did in his career, I acknowledge what he did was wrong but I feel as if we should give him another chance as he wasn't a terrible person just because be made one poor choice. He deserves a second chance and I really hope he recovers and becomes the happiest person he can be.
That Making a “poor choice “ gets me. This wasn’t a choice. He acted and knew. I hope he recovers but to come back nah. That is the least he can do. No room for this behavior. A second chance will be him moving on.
@@OrlandoO2M it was almost 7 years ago and no he didn't know they were underage
@@Juusiii I mean once he found out he should've stopped talking to her yet he continued.
@@OrlandoO2M This is the shit that makes people suicidal. The one thing that made his life was being a content creator. Like yeah the tournament stuff is off the table but he should still be able to make TH-cam content.
Orlando Moreno he was weird with a girl online over 7 years ago. U are a completely different human at 26 vs 19
Literally just discovered ur channel 20 minutes ago and was like wonder if they have a zero video lol
*ahem*.....
*Cricket Noises*
@@fuckit8170 the timing was better when I discovered the video. It had been only been out 15 minutes haha
@@psycher3861 sometimes its not about the timing my guy its about delivery and you sir dont work for amazon
It's been hard for Zero. People like him or others who do inappropriate things when they're young don't inherently understand the consequences of their actions. Gamers (especially pros) naturally spend a ton of time practicing in front of a screen and at the same time, not gaining a lot of the social skills that are crucial for understanding healthy relationships. They don't get the attention of girls in high school. Suddenly or gradually, they gain a big reputation and following and they receive a lot of attention. A small % of that attention is from girls in that specific game's scene. And from the hardcore gamer's perspective, attention from a cute girl (likely younger) is an intoxicating feeling. Being older, there is this excitement in knowing that you can "show them things they haven't seen before", all while continuing the conversation and fueling this "talent/popularity crush" that keeps them interested.
At age 19, most serious gamers don't know shit about themselves and romance, so they certainly don't know anything about how their actions affect the mental health of a younger person.. they're intentions are harmless - because they just want to continue to have a person interested in them.
We can observe and critique "he's 19 he should've known better", but it isn't really fair. (Just because you or I would've known better at 19, doesn't mean that he would). The parents who raised him, the society and culture around vulnerability he grew up in determined how he made his choices. And I don't believe he made any of his choices with the knowledge and intent to harm anyone.
A victim spoke up and said "I just wanted an apology". And this is where so many people are fucking up. They're so afraid of being put in the spotlight and cancelled that they lie, deny, and pretend they don't remember anything. The public has strong BS detectors. Obviously we would remember sending explicit messages to a person who showed interest in us. I'm over 30 and I remember all the interactions I had with every girl I've ever been interest in..
Here is the solution: Don't lie. Be vulnerable. Zero eventually came around after he realized he couldn't lie is his way out. Here are some important sentences to use when you've hurt others:
"I did something inappropriate." (explain what you did)
"I was younger and unaware of the consequence of my actions." (explain the consequence of your actions)
"I feel ashamed of what I did" (explain why)
"I don't have a healthy relationship with myself or know how to do this with others" (explain how you're going to do better, ie: I am seeing a therapist".
"I wish I could go back and change the way I behaved. I've learned a lesson the hard way and I hope with time you can forgive my mistakes. I apologize to those I've hurt and to anyone who has looked up to me as a role model. I intend to continue growing and these are not mistakes that will ever be made by me again".
Own up to your mistakes and acknowledge the pain you've caused. People will forgive you if you are authentic and can communicate your real feelings. This applies to every relationship in your life, whether it be friends, lovers, or long time partners. It's okay to make mistakes! At age 30 you will look back on your 20s and cringe at how stupid you were. It's not okay to pretend they don't exist when others are being hurt.
Wishing Zero and everyone else struggling some good fortune.
That's a powerful message you delivered there. Thanks for sharing.
Are you a pedo or something this seems sketch
Update that wasnt specified in the video: but on April 17th ZeRo's birthday Vannesa and Zero were having a birthday lunch that was uploaded to both of their stories on instagram.
I think hes ok as of rn
I heard they broke up during the scandal. are they friends or are they still together?
@@Xx_CourtPig_xX they are friends they broke up but still keep in touch
I actually remember seeing it and like at the beginning of this video I just started fucking crying
What Zero did was obviously wrong, and he should pay the price that's necessary for his misdeeds. That, however, does not consist of his life, as this person still has the potential to be a better person and change his ways.
he changed his ways years ago. years after what he did but years before his cancellation. cancel culture doesnt allow you to change your ways. the only way sadly, is taking his own life. and it should never come to this. its horrible.
@@keithmcginnis2802 Actually yeah. There was a story of zero and another underage girl having a flirtatious relationship however, once zero discovered the age of the girl, he said he was not comfortable with the relationship.
@@keithmcginnis2802 it's stated in a podcast between AugieRFC and Technicals
@@keithmcginnis2802 there must be but I cannot find any. Many have said the events I have stated are true but that is not evidence. I'll attempt to find something
Never have I clicked so fast on a video.
True buddy
Not me cause i watch a french guy (im french) that expose cheating players in minecraft
Ive never hesitated before clicking a video before
Video titled beginning to end for the sake of sticking to the series naming, but might unironically fit considering his situation now. I’m sad that this went so far and hope he recovers safely.
Here I was thinking news came out that he had passed away
@@esoteric7990 If that happened, there would be a huge outrage in the community from his supporters.
At least he survived. I'm not gonna lie I shed a tear after seeing the image of him with the paramedics. At this point I think he needs to get help with his suicidal stuff and then come back to TH-cam slowly.
I suggest he stays away from youtube
@@scroob9016 MAN, WHERE THE HELL HE IS GOING TO GO, HIS LIFE IS RUINED MAN, YOU JUST NEED TO LOOK UP HIS NAME AND EVERYONE WILL KNOW WHO HE IS
@@scroob9016 Well that depends on him, there is a lot of youtubers that have done way worst and they there are like nothing, I think Zero has a chance on coming back to youtube, but as I said all depends on him.
Zero returning to TH-cam is way easier said than done.
Someone who exploits minors for their own twisted gratification shouldn't be around online for obvious reasons, doubt the Smash community will ever want to associate with him, especially with the shit show that happened last year.
I'm pretty sure he has made enough money to do something else with his life.
@@Weareonenation303 not really, there are a lot of youtubers that had made way worst things than what Zero did and they are still on youtube like nothing.
He can´t go back to smash tourneys, but he can go back to be a content creator on youtube and will depend more on the ppl if they want to watch his content.
I doubt the last part, being a content creator doesn´t leave that much tbh.
This one hurt to watch. He was a national hero and inspiration for us here in Chile. What a sad story.
Never make a human a hero. They're human. You like them selfishly while they make your ego happy, yet you turn feral on them once they do something in life your ego doesn't like.
If you think that a video game ''pro'' player is a national hero, please get a better view in your environment and a better culture. Your comment is absolutely sad.
well this turned dark quick. Lost the girl and almost his life. This is tragic.
I don't think he lost the girl actually, but almost his life, yeah. Hope he's doing alright.
@@Sickmmaner I think Vanessa stated they were not together anymore, but still kept tabs on each other.
@@Sickmmaner she started an onlyfans a day after zero attempted suicide and there getting a divorce
Lost everything bro
@@somerando925 Jesus Christ that's brutal
8:12 holy shit, I've always heard the saying "A picture means a million words" but I've never experienced it until now. So many emotions, especially with knowing what I know now about Nairo and ZeRo.
The music really captures the underlying sadness of it all
These videos are very well made so thank you for your time and effort as it is clearly apparent that a lot of both were put into this video
he was my favorite content creator of all time ):
Me too kid, me too
He still is to me. The Zero that committed tjose atrocities isn't the Zero I love. We all have a past. I still watch his old videos. Because THAT Zero helped me out of a very dark place in my life. I pray he is well
ngl once covid happened I really only kept up with Smash content through ZeRo... his absence left a void that hurt the game and the community. I understand cancelling him but he really did put a lot of work and love into the game.
Amen to that
I'm so sad and angry that people ruined his life and drove him to attempt suicide over stupid mistakes he made as a teenager, which he clearly deeply regrets and has moved past. The man has suffered enough, I am literally begging the community to let him move past his mistakes and show him support, or at least tolerance. Accountability for mistakes means nothing if we don't allow people the chance to repent and move forward, if we can't forgive.
@@SimonThomas-qr8nv how else do we move past things other then to let them die, acceptance just brings all the negative emotions back for both parties
not even picking a side but the notion that other people got involved in the business of two individuals was what started this especially something so personal, the fact is not everything has to be made public, like you said if there are no charges then the court of public opinion should never have a say in if a person is guilty or innocent, what lead to this wasn't all ZeRo it was everyone that spread the information around too
it's not up to us to forgive -- we may well want to move on but the reality is that trauma is forever. These things must be taken seriously now so that they are taken seriously in the future -- abusers can't be led to believe they can get away with anything.
@@daytimecloudsurfer thats not the point though whether people forgive ZeRo doesnt matter because everyone that isnt the the 2 people involved should have never known, it was private, again if this isnt brough up in court then there is no reason it should ever have been made public, people act like we need to know everything about peoples lives just because they are well known but dont want their own business getting out there either
@@sdbzfan1 you just summed up the entire 21st century… that’s all anyone cares about now, is bringing their personal lives, or others’ for that matter, public so that they can maybe feel like they exist and feel a little bit better about themselves. It’s all just a cruel joke…
@@carvman217 yeah it sucks, I get the idea that bad people shouldn't get through life scot free but who are we as people not involved in the incident to decide how tramatic something is for someone, when its a court case its on full display but when ever people go public with "oh this happened to me years ago and I wasn't strong enough to speak up about it" um hello you have a family you can talk to not strangers on the internet, when ever that happens it just reaks of I'm gonna ruin this person regardless of it's true or not, keep private matters private until authorities get involved, too many people want internet fame
great that you continue this series. thanks for doing this. wishing you all the best.
And the smash scene will continue to support him by saying "I hope he recovers. I hope he reforms. Get better zero. Zero attempting to kill himself hurts. Suicide isn't an option zero." Then turn around and say "he can't come back to the smash scene."
How is he suppose to get better with no income? How can he get better if all that will remain is him being jobless and eventually end up homeless especially when his whole income supported not only him, but his family. The smash scene infuriates me.
Well as the saying goes you have to go through hell before getting to heaven He can redeem himself it's not going to be easy for him
If a doctor loses his medical license he can no longer be a doctor. He has to find a new career path. Zero lost his smash license.
@@danielcain8136 Bro he was ALREADY redeeming himself. His actions were 5+ years ago and he showed no repeated actions. He even has a wife now. He isn't a pedo. He was a stupid teenager.
Great work on this video man, all the researching and searching for posts/videos on this must take quite a bit of work!
Seeing zero go from fighting so hard at tournaments to scrape by to smash 4 win streak was pretty inspiring back in the day, it's a shame that he made the mistakes that he did, I don't think he could make a comeback into the scene at this point... But he really shouldn't give up on life, I just hope he finds the help he needs, learns from his mistakes.
After knowing a guy who pretended to be a underage girl to expose someone in another community. That Katie person's messages reminded me of that situation. Guy lost a lot after he was exposed, but he didn't have millions of people who seen it. It was only some guild members and a few other big guilds for the game and such. Happened 3 years ago now but most people have already forgotten about it. I wasn't a fan of this me too movement since it was more like, "me too twitter". I don't know any of those people who made any of those claims so for me to believe them in a social media platform seems a unethical. I rather the police play the role of underage girl and catch people. Most of those children went to twitter before their own parents. Which is what bothered me more. I'm not a fan of these anonymous profiles. The way all this was handled will forever bother me. And the people surprised at the attempted suicides? You could have seen this coming a mile away. Especially for Zero, he told his story often. All I think about is what I would do if I lost the best job of my life after coming from nothing and having no other skills. For me I would have a back up plan. But all Zero was focused on after making it big was losing weight. That's the last thing I remembered. He was trying to change his life and he still can if he can come out of this and get focused.
@@thebibleisaxiomatic8178 Yeah, to add you your point: no one is truly an "adult" at age 19. I don't care what anyone Fucking says. Sure, leagally, but mentally? Physically? Hell no. You think anyone actually transforms into an "adult" the second they turn 18? It just doesn't happen. You are not anywhere near mentally different then when you were 16 years old to 19, you just aren't.
@@thebibleisaxiomatic8178 he was 19 when there was evidence that he knew her age. You don’t have to “grow up” to know that. Doesn’t take you to your mid twenties to figure that out. Plus making the other girl feel uncomfortable. Y’all finding excuses for him. It’s done he ain’t coming back. He couldn’t even admit to stuff when he got called out. That shows he wanted to run from it than face. That was his true character.
@EETV being 19 isn’t being a child. Let’s first get this age thing correct. Phrasing as such is dangerous. At 19 yes we are “reckless” but we also know better than that. So let’s stop excusing that. I do also agree his environment was riddled with perverts. So yeah he probably thought it was ok. But that just show how child like this smash community is. Adults hanging with kids grilling them while the kids are pretending to like the adults. Reasons why Nintendo hates the smash community. To make adults acting like kids. And vice versa. But we for sure can agree. F Captain Zach
@@OrlandoO2M maybe "you" knew better at age 19 and if you did? Hey, props. But most of us did not. You are 100% still a child at age 19 hell even 20's. Does it vary? Absolutely. But in Zero's case especially with his life and exposure to what was happening around him, the guy was still a kid in so many ways. He did not "know better."
Cecil, excellent comment. Couldnt agree more.
Damn ...the ending hurt ... it hurt allot
@Saul Jo 2 I’m looking through replies and you are such an edge lord, shut up man
@@bentai_4676 true LULW
@@WopR420 he deleted his comment lmao
specially since I didnt know :( damn i want to do something so bad but what can we even do
@@bentai_4676 what did he say?
Story not done. Seems Zer0 is innocent for all things except one. New technicals_ video goes into detail and showed Jisu lied about many things.
@@BentNeatly an update is in order then no?
@@eegernades the gross thing happened anyway, stop defending a ped0.
@@eduardo3725 that's the thing. All the alleged gross things, none of it happen. All of it was lies ot misrepresented. All except for the ice one. It's also not defending a pedo. Quit acting elementary.
@@eegernades The ice one is enough, and if you think it is not that gross, support Zero sending him the material he demanded then.
@@eduardo3725 stop putting words in my mouth. I never said it wasn't gross, just said all the others were lies or misrepresented than what actually happened. Like I said, stop acting elementary.
Okay so this is fucking stupid how everyone overlooks this (27:30 in video)
Apex 2013: January 11th
Zero's date of birth: Aprith 17th, 1995
This puts Zero at AGE 17 during this event, meaning he and Jisu were BOTH MINORS. And he was only two years older than her on top of that.
The stuff following Katie is definitely worse, but people treating this as if it's as bad as rape are absurd. I've seen celebrities get away with WAY WORSE SHIT because they had the gall to act like nothing was wrong. ZeRo admits his mistakes and lays himself bare to people, and all they want is more blood. If you actually think making him want to kill himself is admirable or isn't going too far, then you're disgusting and cannot claim moral superiority.
There no morals story
I wrote this as a reply to someone else, but I feel like this just needs to be said in general.
As much as I empathize with Katie over what she's been through, she's not innocent in this whole ordeal either. Not for what she's been through, absolutely not. But for how she handled it.
"All I want is a genuine apology"
Then why in the FUCK did she not just DM him asking for one? Because her family deemed it "wasn't safe", absolute fucking bullshit. Any remote OUNCE of danger was completely snuffed out at this point: Zero had a loving girlfriend (fiancé even, I think? I dunno though) taking away any incentive to even THINK about doing something like this again. He's in his mid 20's, having FAR outgrown the impulses that 19 year old him had. He took the past 6-7 years to grow and change from that point and had already done so long before she even put out her statement. He pretty much took all the right steps except for contacting the victim directly to apologize, and even then he probably didn't do it because he was ashamed of himself and was scared to hurt her further. And hell, even if he somehow HADN'T changed, she now had the mental fortitude and development to be able to tell the difference, and if he acted out of line it would only give HER more evidence. It was literally a WIN-WIN FOR HER. So why make this a public ordeal and not just DM him for the "closure" she so desperately wanted?
Intended or not, she WILLINGLY took the most toxic and destructive route she could. She took a private affair that she herself ADMITTED to just wanting to keep between her and Zero, and BLASTED that shit out to the public, ruining his life in the process despite her saying that's not what she wanted to do. She could say sorry in that twitlonger until she's fucking blue in the face, it doesn't matter because she made the choice to do it anyway. And now that Zero has attempted suicide for all the bullshit that he's already changed and moved on from, everything that he worked his ASS off these past few years to atone for, I sure hope that she realizes that her statement was pretty much the main drive for all the harassment in the first place.
Victim blaming? Maybe. But the negativity surrounding that term is absolutely ridiculous anyway, considering that there are indeed circumstances where blame DOES fall on the victim, and this is one of those times.
Factsssssss. Preach my man.
Kinda doubt Katie is even real at this point. Not hard to make an accusation behind a blank account and have all the victim worshippers attack the accused.
Couldnt have said it better
@@alanhill2331 zero admitted to the accusations being true so it couldn’t have all been false?
@@Josh_Herman Nairo did too, and look at his situation now...
ZeRo is one my greatest inspirations for competitive gaming/being a content creator. I've been following his career since Brawl. I really hate it had to end like this....
If you watched ZeRo for a long time I guarantee you. He is easily by far one of the most wholesome and caring person to exist. It pains me deeply knowing he took the suicidal option. His journey from nothing to the king of 4. Was inspiring for me. I loved him. And you know what? I still do.
You shouldn’t just ignore the bad stuff that he did
@@lightbrand_ I knew someone was gonna comment this. Yes I know what he did was wrong. It was almost 7 YEARS AGO. He was 19 that’s pretty much the prime age for stuff to happen.
@@Kishotto Sadly that’s just the way cancel culture does it’s thing, you can do something years ago, and when you clearly are not like that anymore Twitter thinks you have the same mentality and want you off the planet. Fuck Twitter lol
@@rosefire3929 the craziest thing is people will constantly ride zero for online convo when they let nairo scott free for his bs and actual sexual contact. It is insane how in reality it should be nairo getting the flack along with his suck up friends, not some guy who did a bad online convo years ago and immediately cut it off once he knew the age. Not to mention the behemoth like mountain of false allegations Jisu made.
now I need a nairo beginning to end for a happy ending
makes me so sad... I loved zeros laugh and his content hope he is doing better now
Met him at LTC4, I asked him to play a game, which he said yes after the tournament.
I stayed till the end to watch him win the tournament.
Get well soon ZeRo.
We miss you.
Even though what ZeRo did was bad, I did not think it was worth attempting suicide. I miss this man and his content that he created, I loved and watched many of his videos for entertainment and tips. He was the person that inspired me to play smash and get better. there's probably a low chance for him to comeback but I hope he will.
Update: ZeRo did and interview with ee.
its not what he did that made him want to die but what he lost. I also want him to come back, I feel what he did wasn't even close to as bad as what other players in the smash community had done.
What he did was wasn't even close to every other case but the result was the worst of them all. The impact on people's lives is insane.
@@bliff8523 Yeah I completely agree, ZeRo was younger and I'm sure now that he wouldn't do this. I don't think ZeRo deserved all of that hate compared to others in the smash community.
@@slicendice5832 what he did was pretty bad and especially since he was the only one to try and gaslight the victims I’d say that kinda makes it worse. I don’t wish death on him and I hope he recovers, but I don’t think he should be offered a place back in the community due to how much he struggle to tell the truth before he left
@@casey1038 i mean, most of them didn't even said a word and just vanished without having to experience the amount of hate he went through, and even worse considering a lot of people did way worse things than him, i also think he doesn't necessarily deserve a place on the Smash community but he do deserves to move on and start again, he did something wrong, he deservedly paid for it, a second chance doesn't look like an unfair offer
The only thing I can think to describe this situation is that it's sad. The whole thing is just sad on so many levels.
Everyone! If you don’t know that ZeRo guy is planning on posting something this week. Just informing y’all who don’t know.
I remember when the Smash kids at my school use to dress with a scarf just like Zero bro.
One if my biggest dreams was to play him in a set (knowing I would lose) because he was my idol for the longest time....And then the allegations came. I wish 2020 never happened.
This is the smash tribute we've all been waiting for
He did some messed up stuff, but I don't want him dead. I kinda miss him. He was one of my main inspirations for trying to take Smash seriously. I saw all of the cool clips and wanted to do that stuff. I wanted to know how to do the cool combos. He and many others showed me that there was more to the game than just fumbling about and spamming. There was a form to hone. I was crushed when everything happened and I'm still broken up about it. Even though I know that he's probably never coming back, I hope he gets better.
Sad that people actually miss a person like that
@@lawyermorty6735 Would you not miss a close friend/family member if they were revealed to have done dreadful things, and subsequently left your life? Someone that you were close to in some way for YEARS? Sure, James wasn't a brother or close friend to Zero, but he was certainly inspired and looked up to him. One day, someone you look up to or like will have a Zero situation, and you'll be eating your words. I pray it doesn't happen but maybe it's the only way to show people like you that it is possible to miss someone like that.
@@Dunkiep8 yea I’d be disgusted and wouldn’t want a sick bastard that tried grooming a 14 year old
@@lawyermorty6735 You can both be disgusted and miss someone. You can miss the good parts of someone. Not everyone is good or bad, perfect or full of imperfections. If life were that black and white then nobody would miss him along with the other personalities that have left the scene.
@@lawyermorty6735 you use the term "grooming" so loosely, becuz you hated what zero was before all this just becuz he found success, admit it that, and i might respond toto your response to this.
1. He was 18 and thought she was 16 cuz she lied about her age, a 2 year difference, even outside if that, a 4 year difference big deal. 18 and 19 year olds can be just as immature as other younger teenagers. You dont magically become super mature and adult the moment you turn 18 and infallible of making any mistakes. Seeing you think that and think Zero was a mature adult in this situation at this point of his life just becuz his age hit a certain number, shows how immature you really are. As does your lack of forgiveness. The 14 year old in question forgives him, but you cant becuz you hated him years before this mess even happened.
2. They literally just flirted online awkwardly as teenagers often do. Where is the crime here? Answer: there was none. It's not like any legal action can be taken against zero nor there ever was.
3. How come people never bat an eye at 20 year old dating a 30 year old? Or call it grooming? Again, you dont just magically hit a mature button in your brain once you are 18, im some countries, youre not considered an adult until 21. In others, you are considered one before 18. Yet no one calls a 20 year old dating a 30 yr old grooming, when it most certainly is. The age gap is a milestone in life exp, especially in that age becuz you are expected to have a job and fend for yourself and have a house. 18 year olds are basically treated the same as 14 year olds by society, as far as expectations go.
4. Finally, i would hardly call someone you never met, or even saw photos of, someone you dont even know irl, capable of being groomed. The groomer has to be in a relationship with the one being groomed, which they were not. All they did was literally just talk online, and it got awkward, and they eventually stopped talking.
This kind of thing happens all the time, Zero got flack for it cuz he became famous over smash, so some people hated him for that.
Incredible video as always. Good work, your videos are always a great watch
Vanessa posted a pic on her story or ZeRo/Gonzalo it looks new, I think he was wearing those hospital bracelets, but I miss him and I hope he gets better
I waited for this! thank you so much for making these. You're really good at it! Keep going!
I dk why the algorithm blessed with your channel, but I’m glad it did. The videos are done well, references on point with the music, diggin music heavy.
Thanks man.
this is a story with no happy beginning and no happy ending
These videos are so well made. Deserves more views!
Found out about zero during the pandemic, and watching his channel made me want to know more about him. It's sad that he made these mistakes, but I do feel that he deserves a second chance.
I do too but unfortunately, the people in the smash community do not believe in second chances (the internet as a whole honestly)
@Mike 9001 just a thought but...
Do you know how hard for himto admit to something that big? The dude clearly has been trying to grow as a person throughout the years, he was helping his single mother financially by himself, hes found someone who loves him, awkwardness and all. AND hes a immigrant. That takes guts. What he did was horrible and he should be paying the price for his actions but he shouldn't be told to kill himself and constantly be told to never come back to his only job. Not to mention the dude doesn't even have a stable education. I seriously believe he deserves a second chance. With all the odds stacked against him in the moment the accusations came out against him, can you really say you wouldn't defend yourself and deny everything at least once? It's crazy how we as a society want people who clearly aren't the same person they were years ago to just end their lives or just to ruin their lives to the point they have nothing. I just think it's inhumane. Lastly, I'm always seeing the comments like "I'm never going to forgive you for what you did" or "I forgive you ZeRo" and I'm just like, your input on the situation doesn't mean a damn thing. We as the people looking from the outside in do not have a say in forgiving or not forgiving ZeRo. That is up to the victim herself. And if she forgives or doesn't forgive him it shouldn't matter what we think, we all should just move on, whether that's us just accepting the fact the victim may have or may have not forgiven him and we go back to watching him and his videos or deleting him from our minds.
@Saul Jo 2 murderers got a second chance, zero needs one too survive
@Saul Jo 2 many of them just went to jail, got out, and continued with their life like nothing happened.
Murders are much worse the other person doesn't even come back.
killer music, humble little note at the end. thanks for the quality content
Just found out about the suicide attempt. That's honestly so crazy and shocking in a way. A year ago I would consume his content despite not being an actual follower of his.
The stuff he did was bad, but I hope he recovers and gets help, and continues living on, not forgetting what he did but trying to move forward with his mistakes.
New beginning to end video pog
I feel like in general with all the mass media we have these days as a society, we have forgotten to empathize with other people. The reason I say this is because we are constantly desensitized by this because we see tragedies all the time in the media. One mistake today will land you in a life of absolute hell. What he did was horrible, but not unforgivable. Also, if we don’t allow people to grow out away of their horrible actions in the past and keep on reminding them of said actions, what is the point for them to live their life.
(This is all speculation) Also I could argue that ever since that was about 7-8 years ago and there wasn’t any new allegations since, it could mean he grew in some capacity.
There even is a story proving he has grown. He had a flirtatious conversation with a minor however once he knew about the age, he said he didn't want to continue the relationship
This guy introduced me to competitive Smash, and his content was so damn good...
I really miss him
I understand why he attempted suicide. When he started chatting with a 14 year old and that ice cube thing happened he was at the peak of his carrier and must probably felt like he was untouchable. After he stopped going to tournaments and switched to streaming and youtube he most likely knew that if this comes out he would lose everything he built and tried to avoid it at all costs at the start of the bloodbath. When everything started to crumble he tried to shake it off but when there was no other way then directly answering the questions he must have known that his life was over. Think about it for a second. We already know that he has no education because of the bullying he went through in his childhood, his family is completely broken, he never learned anything else then gaming and after this he will never come back to the internet again and have any success there. After he lost his girlfriend what do you think is left? No education, job experience, love life, family, opportunity to come back and marked as a child predator. What he did was wrong and he had to own up to it but he lost everything. In that situation what should he do? I am surprised he waited this long to kill himself to be honest.
Suicide is still not the answer. You may have no education, no love life, no proper family, no livelihood. But there's always light at the end of the tunnel. It all starts with accountability and psychiatric help. I get it that death threats were too much and unneeded, but he should have been able to look past that and move on. Just like what he did during tournaments. But then again, it's easier to say to look past hate than doing it.
@@varunr9744 I know that suicide is not the answer to this but I do understand why he did it. In a situation like this when everybody on earth seems to hate you without any chance of redemption and you have no education as an immigrant in America it must be extremely hard to see anything worth it anymore. Sometimes the Internet is a really cold and heartless place.
When I was 19 I was addicted to drugs and found myself going through the court system. Today I'm 36 and a wildly different person. I can't imagine if someone looked at the way I was talking to girls when I was that age and used it to judge the person I am today.
He actually recently posted to his Instagram story. It was a repost of a picture of him Vanessa posted for his birthday.
I was wondering what that post was. By the time i saw the story it had already been 24 hours
@@xThe4thx I think he deleted it.
@@xThe4thx I saw the notification but when I entered to the platform the picture wasn't there.
Yeah recent, and this was posted 15 hours ago, should’ve mentioned that if you’re going to permanently post a video of him lol
@@danielmolina2003 do you really think that its relevant enough to edit a video that was already finished more than likely days before a post that he probably didnt see that contained no info whatsoever?
Not gonna lie, zero was sooo fun to watch
Yeah, the best
I prefer melee, a game with excitement and combos
@@John-nk3ej i prefer ultimate where you can find a character that suits your play style and tierlists don't completely define your character like melee does
I hope he comes back man, I miss his videos and his good humor. He made mistakes sure but he definitely deserves a 2nd chance, he had a rough life and it's not fair to see him like this.
He does
His life was already bad and he attempted suicide so I think he deserves a second chance
@@highqualityname3184 I think so aswell
Man I remember meeting Zero at The Final Battle at Panorama City, CA back in like 2015. I was so excited to meet him and I took a picture with him and I gave him two gift I made for him and M2K. It breaks my heart knowing how this situation was handled. We need more grace towards people as they atone and repent for their past mistakes. God bless him and his friends and family.
ive been going into a deep habit hole with the whole smash controversy an if wasn't for one of your videos I would of never started digging and reading deep into it! Anyways keep up the good work brotha and keep making more smash videos like these they're addicting to watch!!
I want zero back! he doesn't deserve any of this hate! he was just a desperate teenager who wanted attention, but people hated him just because he won games.
He's a groomer.
@@juicedup14 he didn't know they were young and he was young too just barely 18.
@@Dan-tx6fpnope.
He knew if you read his twitlonger.
He was 19 she was 14
@@juicedup14 stfu, ur just a hater who doesn't understand an immigrant's life in a new world.
@@juicedup14 Even the girls knew what they were doing!!! and they went along with it at the time!
I imagine the alt timeline when zero didn't survived
I'd be crying
The phrase "It takes ages to make a reputation and seconds to ruin it" resumes pretty well what happened with ZeRo in these years. He got carried away in the past and feared the true. I'm really sorry from him but i can't get the "I got abuse so i can do the same to others" excuse.
First time I learned about him was from a middle school Guinness book. I was like 15 at the time.
Very well put video, however I would have also mentioned that Jisu also used lies in her claims, like the lies about Vanessa, yet everybody shrugged it off. Zero made mistakes, but Jisu just wants the man dead so she can steal his spotlight. You can't really be personally mad at a person just because he shared his anime waifu with you, I'm also sure she doesn't really care about Katie and just used her to her advantage. Jisu really gives me Zack vibes if you know what I mean.
Thank you for the reverence at the end.
Thanks so much. This gives me closure on his story. It’s a blasted shame that what happened did...
I had been regularly watching ZeRo's content since 2019 to relax. 10AM EST meant 7:30pm IST in my place. A few vids away from allegations his videos were beginning to be a little cringe. When the allegations happened I was shocked. I basically found other hobbies and stuff to not let this petty stuff affect my life, since he was just another Internet person. I don't know him well. Neither of us on TH-cam do. His past may be dark but he decided to be manipulative at the end. That is not right. It still gives an impression that he never matured as a person. Hence the backlash. And the suicide story at the end, may be sad but he brought it upon himself. Had he admitted in the first statement, things would have been different by now.
But it's very sad to see him rise so high and fall so hard, that he decided to end himself. But he was probably blessed , that god gave him a second chance. I hope, despite all these problems of no proper education, no livelihood, no life partner he gets all the help he needs and is able to redeem himself as a better person in life.
Should he return to the smash community? I don't know, probably not. I'll let the community weirdos be a better judge to that.
In what way should he face the consequences? Can't say. I'll let the judicial system be a better judge to that.
Also, about Hent@i. I don't understand the smash community condones showing explicit stuff to minors, but posting explicit stuff on stage builder/shared content is OK? Smash bros is a game where I am sure a majority of it's audience would be minors, who are oblivious to the competitive community's existence. And posting explicit content for then to see, is fine? I don't know about you all but something's not right here. Hence, the name "community weirdos".
Should he deserve a second chance in life? Absolutely! No law exists in this earth, which is so unforgiving that you must die for all your sins. The judicial systems in Scandinavian countries, believe in change, respect, redemption and humanity, not punishment. Hence they are the most humane judicial system ever, and it's working very well in their favor with very little re-bound in criminal cases (less than 20%). Compared to a whopping 60+% rebound in criminal cases in the US. Which is a joke.
I personally never wished him to die, nor does he deserve the excessive, unneeded death threats. That doesn't make us any better either. We as a society, are inhibiting him to face accountability and no law, or justice system allows us to do that in any way. It's basically committing murder. And I don't support that either. Anyone can change for the better. Accepting them to take accountability only makes us more humane. spreading hate and wishing death, will only make us cruel, unforgiving and most importantly WEAK. There's a saying:
"A WEAK can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of STRONG"
by Mahatma Gandhi
No hard feelings but the US (and some other first-world countries, I'd rather not mention) because of it's unforgiving nature, is becoming weaker day-by-day. Whatever you may say to deny it, the past 2021 capitol riots, and the rise in hate-crimes against asians proves it big time. Again, "actions speak louder than words".
Can't seem to find the song on your channel that plays around 25:20. Is it an unreleased song? Just curious.
Also amazing video; really helped clarify a lot of things about the situation that I didn't already know.
ill try to find it and upload it soon
ok its up bud
@@BentNeatly Thank you so much! And thank you for your hard work on your videos, I've been binging them in the meanwhile!
This needs waaaay more views. Good stuff
This bit at 12:20 is fucking haunting. For those unaware that kid he is approaching and talking to is Sparky, a young smash player that met Sky at PAX and ended up moving in with him, got molested by the pro Smasher MacD repeatedly while everyone at the house covered it up and then was booted from the house by Sky. If I remember correctly this part here is somewhere around the time the abuse of Sparky started.
Bro wtf
That’s heartbreaking
So from what I understand zero was 19 and the girl was 15 and he asked for a nude. IMO having his whole life stripped away from him for something he did as a teenager who was also a foreigner with different customs is kinda overkill and now he wants to kill Himself, what he did wasn’t good and we all know this but this punishment IMO was to strict. He couldn’t even legally drink yet and was a teenager in age but an adult legally. I feel high school boys 18yos across America would be going to jail if there personal lives came out. I may get attacked but zero needs to come back.
lmao I remember a girl from my high school had a 24 yo boyfriend when she was 15 XD
Nah mate, when you're 19 you should know better than to do shit like this. Not to mention how he lied about it after it all came out. He's a predator that should not have access to a platform that readily gives him access to so many children. I hate to see him go, but he's not proven himself responsible to have the level of power he did. I don't wish for him to lose his life, it's undoubtedly sad that he tried to take it, but I wish for him to get help and to not come back, he's proven he cannot be trusted.
@@thegreatgonzales6813 A predator XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@@thegreatgonzales6813 just wondering, how old are you? Seems like the people who think like you are all children
@@fangiscool1 I'm sorry? I'm going to assume you're referring to only Zero in this instance and not in general. They're an adult who preyed on a minor and then lied about the allegations of such even after they supposedly "changed". You're telling me the people who think that way are all children? The bastard knew better than to do what he did and if he was truly remorseful he wouldn't have lied about it, he does not deserve his platform back.
I was kinda offline when this stuff happened, which makes it really hard to do research on this stuff. glad to have this video
I think Vanessa at her early age truly dated Zero to experience the Joy and and excitement of being with someone that kept on winning,She probably Liked the thrill she got from dating someone as successful as him in his prime.Once that feeling was no longer they're for her to enjoy she left.
I love these videos! Keep it up :)
I don’t really have anything to add to the convo, but ZeRo was an idol growing up along with captain zack later on. I even dressed up as ZeRo for halloween, kind of ironic looking back lol. It sucks what monsters they turned out to be.
I had a feeling this video was going to be made
Zero inspired me, shows us all what’s possible when you become great at something you love. I don’t think he’s a creep or a predator but I know he’s made mistakes in the past. I hope he takes care of himself so he can come back and continue making content
Of course a smash fan defends a groomer
I am so sorry, but if he comes back I'll watch him. "We are not defined by our errors, but by the way how we fix them."
It's like people forget the past 7 years happened..
Dude proved that he is a good person and he shouldn't be defined by 1 mistake..
How did he fix his errors? Stop with quoting random bullshit if you don't know what you're talking about
@@NoraDG9000 its seems to me that you are the salty one that doesn't know what he is talking about tbh
"How did he fix his errors"
1- it was an error not errors
2- uhh.. Have you not been alive the past 7 years? You know.. After this thing happened? After cutting ties aith her and becoming a better person?
@@B2099-b2h 1. Lying about it repeatedly is an error. 2. Cutting ties with someone you groomed isn't a commendable thing
@@NoraDG9000 If you're talking about Jisu, she isn't a victim. She's a manipulative piece of garbage that made everything up about zero for no reason other than to harm his reputation.
I personally feel, anyone deserves a shot at redemption. I truly hope Gonzalo is well and gets the help he needs. owning up to his mistakes takes a lot of strength and despite done wrong I truly respect him for that especially given his situation.
Deadass that robe Sakurai gave Zero and M2K I think correct me if I'm wrong. It would be one of the biggest honors because Sakurai created one of the most important pieces of entertainment in my life in Smash bros. Scratch that Smash bros is art a masterpiece nonetheless
Used to be. Smash Ultimate is awful and soulless.
@@ItApproaches You spelt Wobble, shine, wavedash wrong.
@@Buff_Drio ?
@@ItApproaches Melee where the only characters is Fox, Falco, Shiek, Ice C, and maybe Capn
@@Buff_Drio I don't get your point.
AND THEN HE COMES BACK