good thing Rebekah did this tho because it helped Stefan move on too, since Elena confessed that she was in love with Damon it gave Stefan the right to move on even if Elena still sorta loved him still.
Elena is the Playgirl here. After her parents died, she asked Matt for some alone time. But when Stefan arrived, she got all flirty with him. She did the same with Stefan when Damon came to her "rescue". After Stefan became a slave to klaus to save his brother's life, she was busy kissing Damon. She is a traitor. She doesn't even deserve Damon. The brothers fought unnecessarily for her. She isn't worth their love. She wasn't even worth matt's love
I'm sorry but this scene perfectly outlines why Stefan and Elena didn't work. Stefan couldn't accept her for who she was, this becomes more evident when she turns into a vampire...it only amplifies your human qualities. Elena and Stefan met when she was in a depressed state and more subdued/reserved. That appealed to Stefan because he was in the exact same state, and he saw Elena as his redemption. A better version of Katherine. His fixation with her had more to do with his own identity crisis than her. She was everything he wanted to be, so she had to remain this pure and untainted human being he should protect. But when she became a vampire, he wanted her to pretend to be human as much as possible and not display any negative qualities. When a cure became available he was so eager to fix her so that she could love him again, proving that he didn't completely understand her as a human. Now...this is important. Damon met her just before her parents' accident. He saw her at her "best" when her world wasn't unraveling. Those impulsive, carefree and sometimes selfish parts of her always existed before she turned. That's where her attraction to Damon stemmed from. People don't give her credit but she was extremely loyal to Stefan and kept Damon at arms length. The events of S3 would have been tough on anyone, Stefan was doing everything in his being to push her away. And that pushed her closer to Damon, but still she persisted in trying to save Stefan. Stefan always felt morally superior to Damon and like he was more deserving of Elena because of that fact. But Damon never claimed to be a good person, he never felt worthy of her love..he simply couldn't help his feelings. And he didn't expect her to feel the same way, he was willing to sacrifice her opinion of him if it meant that she was safe.. Even if she hated him, he didn't feel like she had to belong to him in order for him to love and protect her.
First stefan morals is better than damon,s and elena was the one who cried that she doesn't want to be a vampire and when she is a vampire and he is feeling guilty he blames himself for it he tried to get her what she wanted and then she is being stupid Damon didn't do anything for her but teach her how to feed stefan got her a daylight ring and tried to not get her to kill someone when she over feed in him he doesn't want her to feel that guilt Damon doesn't care if she kills anyone or about her guilt 3.She went to Damon because she wants to believe that it's OK to be a vampire there is nothing wrong she wants to ignore the fact that being a vampire is not ok which is a lie and she treated herself as the biggest thing to be fixed when she killed kol and his entire sireline just so she could get the cure Stefan loved her both human version and vampire version if he didn't he wouldn't have gotten her a daylight ring or try to teach her to feed whitout killing someone And damon was the ine who loved her because she looked like katherine since he loved katherine and Jr didn't start caring about her until after katherine broke his heart so he decided she looks like katherine let me love her Damon doesn't respect her decisions he treats her like a child who dosen't know what she is doing he doesn't care what she it's what he wants like he told alaric he just wants elena to be happy with him only not anyone else again it what he wants that he cares about not what she wants Thire relationship was built on the lie that being a bloodthirsty vampire is OK she doesn't want to face reality
If you notice Caroline is watching Stefan and reacting to protect him instead of Elena. And Rebekah's questioning is more designed to hurt Stefan from a variety of way. Just more proof that the real linchpin relationship in the show is actually Damon and Stefan since everything ties back to them.
@@kaylabounds0615 not at all She was already dating matt and tyler by the time elena and stefan were together , she always used to tell elena that stefan is the best guy for her If she wanted stefan why would she ship stelena instead of delena
@@jishajawa9045 She wanted Stefan from day one. Matt and Tyler were distractions. She was too much of a friend to Stefan, which should have given Elena red flags as a friend.
Stefan and Elena grew apart. If you love someone, you love them no matter what. Damon loved Elena whether she was either a human or a vampire. Stefan couldn’t accept Elena as a vampire and was focused on fixing Elena. That feeling that you need to be fixed is not good for a relationship. Sometimes that can effect how you see yourself.
@@foursidedamico3101 she begged Stefan and cried to him in the beginning of season four on how she didn’t want to be a vampire and wanted a future with kids and a family and to grow old, to which he did just that. She loved Stefan, but fell out of love when she turned
If I was there I would've asked so many questions To elena Q1 when did u fell in love with damon ? Q2 : Who do u care about more Salvatores or ur friends ( bonnie , caroline , matt )? Q3 : In a life or death situation who would u save stefan or damon ? Q4 : Do u want both the salvatores ? To stefan Q1 . Elena or damon? Life or death situation Q2. Do u love katherine? Would u be with her in future ? Do u came to mystic falls cause u wanted to find katherine ? Did u feel for elena only cause she looked like katherine ? Q3. Do u think that elena was guilty for falling for damon ? To Caroline Q1 : Do you like stefan ? Q2 : Do u have any feelings for klaus or have u ever felt something for klaus Q3 : who do u care about more stefan or elena ? Q4 : Bonnie or elena ? Life or death situation Q5 : Are u jealous of elena ?
I can answer Stefan 1.He would choose Damon over anyone. This become clear in later seasons. 2.He did loved Katherine but not anymore.He was attracted to Elena because she looked like Katherine but he love Elena not Katherine. 3. I think Stefan was happy because she made Damon become a better person but he would think falling in love with Damon was wrong because they were in loved once and he loved her too not because he think Damon don't deserve her.
Rebekah did this shit to prove a point. She was proving that sweet, innocent Elena ain't so sweet and innocent. Plus, stefan did get the girl daggered. I would have did this shit. But then again I'm petty and vindictive.
Stefan left with Klaus, shut his humanity, Became a slave to Klaus just to save his brother's life. His brother on the other hand was busy flirting with his girlfriend. Why do people think Damon is the good guy?? What if the same thing happened with you? Your partner and sibling cheating on you when you left to save their life?? People always make Damon the good guy just because he is hotter.
People really forget what Elena did for Stefan. Yes she fell in love with Damon but let's not forget that she and Damon were the only ones searching for Stefan when Klaus traded him for his blood to cure Damon. Not Tyler, Matt, nor Bonnie nor Caroline. Without her pursuing him, Stefan's probably still with the Mikaelson's and Steroline wouldn't happen. She's annoying for what she's done but come on, really.
Truth be told they probably only searched for Stefan because they had a guilty conscious and knew they owed him for his sacrifice. I mean Damon literally said it multiple times during that season
@@itwasntoptional2513 Damon searches for his brother because he loves him despite everything. The central love story on the show is about the brothers. It is Stefan's story of how he and his brother find they way back together.
let’s get one thing straight, elena never said she doesn’t love stefan, she does love him. she is IN LOVE with damon though. and stefan was not in a relationship with elena when elena caught feelings and kissed and dated damon, she did not cheat. she was loyal to stefan even after he got compelled to turn everything off but he was willing to let her and her brother die, of course she’d choose damon
Time stamp 2:27 I just want Stefan to scream - Because I know you never wanted this! You never wanted to be a vampire. And that guilt will haunt me the rest of my life! It's MY fault you're a vampire! It's my fault you're in love with Damon....💔
Stefan didn't want to fix her.He wanted to fix her vampirism. The best reason could have been that his brother was with her when he lost his humanity. She,being a woman,obviously went for the guy who care and loved her while stefan was no where around . So,it seemed a little harsh for stefan who lost his humanity becoz of his brother and klaus.Also,if you love someone, you try to protect it preserve it as long as you can which in case from her only lasted for a season. Being a vampire only amplifies the feeling so she didn't change when she became one,she had already changed before. But for stefan lovers ,good thing is he got Caroline who ws better than Elena.
Finally some people can analyze this situation clearly. :) Thank you and I totally agree with you. Mostly people just consider the issues just because they are fan of Damon or Stefan. But we have to consider it with the characters personality and their point of view. Because the story does not only keep on according to our own expectations or desires. :)
This is such a layered situation so I’m just gonna bullet my thoughts: - The argument that Elena had more personal growth w Damon than with Stefan, forgets that the show was written to Damon would always win. Stefan won the battles, but Julie made sure Damon won the war. I’m sure if she wanted Stelena to be endgame it would’ve happened-Caroline and Damon be damned. - Stefan wanted to cure Elena, not because HE didn’t want her to be a vampire, SHE said multiple times before and after she turned that she didn’t want to be one. She wanted to grow old with Stefan and had she not turned, they probably would’ve sought out the cure for him so they could live happily ever after. - Stefan’s biggest mistake was not checking Damon the minute he found out his brother wanted Elena. It doesn’t matter who met who first. Elena ended up in a relationship with Stefan and it was clear from the beginning Damon was not interested in honoring that. - I used to fault Elena a lot for her S3 and 4 antics but I don’t anymore. Sis was being hunted and later used as a bloodbag for a sadistic Original Hybrid, lost her last parental figure Alaric, got turned into a vampire, then was told there’d be a cure for her vampirism, then lost her brother while trying to get it, etc. And while all of that is happening, the person she’s going through all of this for is unreachable, then his humanity is off and she’s never seen him at his worst before then, then he has to undo the damage he did while his humanity was off but here comes Damon who for once looks like the safe, stable, yet still hot one…Stelena didn’t stand a chance and it’s everyone else’s fault but it’s really also Julie’s 🤷🏽♀️
how did damon not have interest in honoring stefan and elena's relationship? he gave her back their necklace, he even debated with her when she blamed stefan for stuff in season 4 and tried to keep them together
Perfectly stated! Point #3 though!!! I never liked Damon for this very reason and more. He NEVER had any respect for Elena n Stefan’s relationship and would boldly make advances at her and Stefan definitely should’ve dealt with him accordingly. It wasn’t until they slept together that I think Stefan fought with him. Damon always proudly said how selfish he was and his desires always came before others no matter who got hurt. Idc what nobody says, Damon got more love from fans because he’s more attractive or whatever but that man was TOXICCCC. In real life I’d never want to date someone like him 🤢
@@Sassy_Muffin136 what do you mean he didn't respect stelena, he helped them stay together by giving her his necklace to her, reassuring her that he would come back and he would get him for her, and when she was started to pull away from him he kept defending stefan's mistakes in their relationship and would secretly call stefan to come comfort her. people just love to cherrypick to abide by their own story they want to believe in
Did we forget about season 1 and his blood problems? and how he treated Elena? how he abandoned her? how he slept with Katherine ? No crap Elena fell in love with Damon..
Elena constantly gets crapped on and defied and dehumanized and poked fun at but in reality it was The Salvatores among most others other then Jeremy, Jenna, Bonnie, Grams, Caroline, Matt, Tom, Amara, And a smaller bucket list of other characters that had it coming to them The Salvatores other then Zack, The Mikaelsons, Katherine, Silas, Isabel, Tyler, Vicky, Cade, Kai, Sage, and most other show uppers did not deserve any kindness from Elena and if they did it was in small vials yeah.
Exactly, the Salvatores were bad for her. Klaus said it best "The worst thing for Elena Gilbert is the two of you." Damon killed Elena's brother and abused her best friend. Stefan stalked her for months, abandoned her and then tried to kill her. Neither of them deserved her and the only person who understood Elena wanting to lead a normal life was Rebekah.
Stefan deserves better than Elena. I'm really sorry for him. She's not the one for him all along. He always chose wrong partner in right time. He better off with someone else. I wish Damon dating Bonnie. I'm fan of Bamon endgame. Bonnie is healthy relationship for Damon.
I love this rebbekah it shows that shes also good at tormenting others like klaus also shows how rebbekah's dangerous side i hate the inconsistency bout what they did to bex. Like her killing 6 vamps then rebbekah getting snapped instatly then shes done like wtf they can make her dodge or something.
And through all of this Stefan still worked his tail of to find the cure and give to elena, Damon looked elena in the eye and said he doesn't want her to be human despising that side of her Elena always aspired to be if you actually watched all seasons and didn't start from season 4. Who will you love, the man that will fight to give you everything or the one who just wants to run your life?
@@davidtakyi14 the same Damon took the cure with her and both become humans at the ends He changed her mind after all this. So I will chose the man who made mistakes, admit it and change after
This is where you're wrong Damon didn't evolve he was the same guy from the start to the finish and we all know the ending he had on this series was not in the book, it was plec awarding Ian for making her money and that's all it was
@@davidtakyi14 there is many books with different ends. In one book stelena is endgame, in other books delena is and in another both brothers died and Matt and Elena are endgame ( this is the version plec wanted and changed his minds after ) this serie ended longtime ago deals with the fact delena is endgame and move on
@@joelleginger599 Damon killed Elena's brother lusted after his brothers gf, cheated with his brothers gf. If this was reality Elena would never have forgiven Damon and they used the sirebond to give the toxic Delena fans what they wanted. But Nina left in the midle of the sirebond arc so they had to make Delena end game But the real ending was always Stelena.
Here I am and 2023 watching this scene again I don’t care what anybody say Elena was wrong you don’t fall in love with your boyfriends brother that’s just wrong on so many levels
I don't get why ppl like Damon. People just associate with Damon being the 'bad boy'. It's more of who they want him to be, rather than who he is. They act like he's a bad boy with mild temper issues when he's murdering, raping sociopath canonically. Because of the lack of criticism from the writing/writers and some parts of the fandom meant that Damon would never get a redemption arc since he was coddled so much. And he didn't. Stefan..because the writers could be harsh on Stefan - he suffered actual consequences for even the slightest mistake, ironically made him a balanced and developed character. Not to mention more interesting. Even when JP admitted in the later seasons she didn't know how to write Stefan. He was still easier to watch than Damon. Fuck Damon, Stefan is the better man!
See this is the kind of thought that makes life difficult for you lot in this world. The nice guys always wins because wherever he goes on from the situation, job or the person he lost he will be loved cherished and admired elswhere for his nature experiencing newer and better things leaving the bad guy to be exposed to his real nature because the cover the nice guy gave him in that situation has been removed. For example in a job where you're the nice guy and cover for the bad guy who(steals money, doesn't show up for work, neglect his duties) the very instant you leave the traces of his bad actions are exposed it is the same in a relationship even if it is two people in the relationship(one good the other bad) or you're competing to be with someone. Think about it in school the cool kids make themselves appeal to everyone than the good kids right, in the end it will be this cool kids that will work for minimum wage from the good kids. The nice guy always wins, the bad guy is exposed
@@joshthaller4754 No, he isnt worse than damon, damon literally sexually assaulted caroline and he kills people for no reason.. Stefan is only “evil” when his humanity is off, which isn’t something that he can help.
The fact that people are saying Stefan wasn’t good for Elena and that Damon accepted her either way just proves that a lot of u don’t really understand this series. First of all Stefan loved Elena either way he only left her because he saw her becoming very close with Damon and knew that he couldn’t do anything about it he had to leave and save himself from more heartbreak and that BS Elena said about Stefan seeing her as problem was just utter nonsense because she was the same person who said she wanted to become a human and Stefan went looking for a cure for her he was just respecting her decision something Damon never did and it is just so frustrating to watch because she legit slept with his brother the next day and just pissed me off and I’m telling u I stopped the series after that because I couldn’t just continue and to be honest Stefan is the most mature amongst him and his brother seems like people are forgetting the fact that Damon has been trying to break up Stefan and Elena from day one and that just disgusted me because what kind of brother are u going after u own brothers girlfriend like seriously and the reason why I said Stefan is more mature is the fact that he still stayed after Damon and Elena were together like if it was down to me I’m leaving mystic falls the next day because there is no way I would watch my brother date my ex I don’t think this kind of stuff happens in real life I guess that y it is called fiction because for that is just f*cked up
Stefen never loved Elena. He loved Katherine. Damon wanted to finally be someone's first choice and not just an object to be played with for once in his life. The fact that it took Elena to become a vampire fan him to finally "breok up" with her shows how ridiculous he is. He wants a human Katherine. Hell never have it. Elena is the villain of the series.
@@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese your sure we watched the same TVD because you saying Stefan never loved Elena is a big lie do you know what it means to love someone
Agreed. Damon had no respect for their relationship and it was disgusting to watch. I literally used to skip the Delena scenes bc that was just messed up on all levels to me. No boundaries. No loyalty smfh. And I personally feel like they made Elena too weak in terms of Damon. Times when Damon would come all up in her face flirting with her, she would just stand there and let him do it while she was with Stefan. Like girl if you don’t tell that man to leave you tf alone 😒😒
Most Girls like toxic boys more Elena choosing Damon over Stefan was proof of it good people always get used by loved ones and thrown away like tissues 😢
I am too disappointed with the turn the series has taken because Julie Plec has very badly managed the plots and the relationships between the characters, especially that of Stefan and Elena. I loved this series especially the first 3 seasons because the return of Katherine and the arrival of Klaus and the Originals caused a stir. But the show started to go down in quality from season 4 where Elena ended up with that damn jerk of Damon and Stefan ended up with Caroline. Why the series told us about soul mates if in the end none of the characters ended up with their twin flame, incomprehensible. I was really disappointed because I really regret what the production did with the couples. The series could have been good, but this is really sad. The first 3 seasons were great, but from season 4 it went all over the place and it ended in anything.
Agreed. Yeah, Damon was a fun fling. He’s attractive, the bad boy, etc. but they did not mesh. They fought so much later in the series because underneath all the sexual tension, fundamentally they were morally different. Damon is selfish. Let’s not forget Damon raped and fed on Caroline in the first season. She was under compulsion so there’s no way of saying it was consensual. He also snapped Jeremys neck without seeing the protection ring he had. And Jeremys death later on is the sole reason she had to turn it off. His death destroyed her. How is any of that forgivable? And then Damon, who LOVES his brother, moves in on his girlfriend. I get you can’t help who you fall for.. but he did not respect their relationship. Stefan is no saint either but he worked for decades on fixing himself. He got caught up in the ripper era and Lexi showed him theres a better way. Thats all he was doing for Elena when she turned. Instead of letting her go off the rails and losing her humanity, let’s start off doing good. At the time, vampirism was permanent. So he just tried to prevent Elena from killing anyone because it absolutely wrecked her, even when the hunter died. Steroline felt forced to me, like just something to be explored because there wasn’t any options left. Caroline should’ve been with Tyler or Klaus. She truly loved Tyler and she was with him during some dark times, especially during his early wolf days. I could go on forever 😂
@@XX-sw2ty That’s your opinion and I respect it. I don’t want to be right or excuse Stefan’s bad deeds but having read the volumes of the literary saga The Stefan Journal by LJ Smith and after having reviewed the series in its entirety from a different angle, I was able to understand his character well, how he works, understand where his goodness is, what his limits are etc… Stefan is someone who is torn between his good and bad side. He is somewhat imprisoned by his bad side that calls him. One could say that he is a bit of a martyr, he does not even accept himself as a vampire. He has a humanity that brings out guilt, compassion and regret in him. He manages to bury in him his bad side that sleeps deep within him, a side that made him a sadistic person who liked to remember his murders. Yes, Stefan was far from being a one-note character, and his dark side resurfaced several times but unlike Damon, he had remorse when he committed atrocious acts because guilt gnawed at him with the humanity that remained in him. There were similarities between Stefan and Damon, but the former always wanted to do the right thing. To compensate for his Ripper cravings, he strove to be better, selfless, friendly and merciful whenever he could. Unlike Damon, Stefan feels guilty about the murder of each of his victims and quickly makes himself sick. He was helped by Lexi, a vampire he meets and learns from her to control his thirst for blood, and to feed on animals instead of humans. He has embarked on a sort of abstinence from human blood for centuries thanks to Lexi, Damon has never tried to abstain from human blood but Stefan has and he deserves a lot of credit for the incredible restraint he showed for many years of his immortal life. Even though he was an incredibly imperfect individual and trapped in many ways by his vampirism and blood addiction, unlike many other vampires and supernatural beings, he always tried to be better than he was. However, that does not mean that he always succeeded. In many cases, Stefan proved to be a hero. But, often, he proved to be more of a villain than a hero. We only focus on Stefan’s Ripper side and tend to forget that Damon did some beautiful horrors during the 8 seasons of the series and even before without being a Ripper and unlike Stefan, after committing horrible acts, he continued his life without regretting most of the time. And even if Damon had differences with Stefan, he said that his brother was a hero especially because of his haircut! It’s a running joke between the two Salvatore brothers that comes up several times during the series and that all true fans know, of course!
Stefan should have taken the hint. Elena doesn't need to be fixed and he should of moved on but unfortunately Stefan felt his love for Elena was eternal. I guess that was shared by Elena.
And look at how she turned out with Damon, In season 6 she became a junkie and turned into a vegetable by kai, burnt to ash by her own boyfriend who didn't give a shit in finding ways of bringing her back, she wasn't the same anymore This adage is really true, if you sleep with trash be ready to see garbage on your face when you wake up
Every time I watch this series and the originals I realise how lucky a lot of characters were that Rebekah wasn't evil. Klaus would have just had them sit there quietly and get eaten. Except maybe Caroline
@@butterflyera2399 Compared to her siblings, she's an angel. Also said anything about a bad childhood? Nevertheless she didn't have a bad childhood she had a bad 1000 years and couldn't even kill herself to end her misery.
@@butterflyera2399 She did nothing evil in that scene, they're three vamps against one wolf she was just slowing them down, and that's exactly what happened. If she wanted to kill them she could have just compelled them to stop breathing.
Honestly though Damons a lot better than Stefan. Damon accepted his vampirism but Stefan kept trying to deny what he was. There's a reason why Katherine and the Originals never turned off their emotions. It's because they accepted that they were monsters. They accepted who and what they were. Vampire Elena was honestly annoying as fuck with all the bitching and whining 24/7. The cure was honestly complete bullshit as well. Worst thing about TVD easily. Also Rebekah taking the cure makes no sense because Marcel won't be able to take it and she won't leave him.
This is why I dropped the series. Other than the stupid overdone love triangle they had everybody thinking Elena and Stefan were endgame but then out of nowhere it was Elena and Damon who in my opinion had zero chemistry 😂
Yes! Exactly. Stefan and Elena have amazing chemistry , but every time I see Damon and Elena it’s just boring and no chemistry. It’s sad that many fans were obsessed with Damon’s bad boy type and writer just wanted to please them and made Damon and Elena endgame.10+ years later and almost everyone understands that Stefan is a right choice
I don't like the fact that Stefan sees Elena as a "broken doll". It was pretty evident in all of the vamp turning scenes that all Stefan wanted to do was help everybody get used of being a vampire, this includes Elena's scene. But this is only an opinion- don't come for me.
As much as i am a delena fan, I think Stefan deserved better. I mean she broke up with him becuz he was trying to find her the cure of vamprism and she thought he was trying to fix her when precisely she wanted the exact same thing. I feel like it would have been better if she could just admit to stefan that she has feelings for Damon and thats why she needs to break up with him, instead of accusing Stefan and telling him that he sees her a 'broken toy'.
To all the people who keeps saying Stefan wanted to fixed her, well please hear this. Elena was the one who think of herself as someone trying to be fixed, she literally killed Kol along with thousand just because she wanted the cure, the only reason Stefan keep trying is because he knew its what she wanted, Elena was the one who cried to Stefan about not wanting to become a vampire and talked about how she want a future with her own family, Elena may look carefree and enjoy feeding but that only happened because she was now a vampire, even as a vampire she want nothing more to be than be human, that's the only reason Stefan keep trying.... Vampires are impulsive, their emotions are high, the bloodlust are strong but not everyone has to be a serial killer or monster, Stefan knew this better than anyone, he tried to make Elena controlled her bloodlust and tried to make her feed animals so she wouldn't hurt innocent people,because Stefan compassion, his kindness and the way he tried to resist his bloodlust even at his worsts moment and the way he keeps trying is what Elena made him loved more, he knew better than anyone thats not what Elena really wanted to become of herself but because of the sire bond Elena couldn't feed any animals and she felt the need of Damon's helped, when we say the sire bond is the reason Elena love Damon this is it, if there's no sire bond Stefan helping her would be work and she wouldn't feel the need of Damon help, if the sire bond didn't happened her and Stefan would go through all of that together, when Damon made her feeding at the party she knew it was wrong but she also said why did she keep doing it, the reason is Damon told her its okay to feed like that but the real Elena still feel something was wrong but can't do anything about it, because of the sire bond she didn't go through many things with Stefan while she grew closer and closer to Damon, she already had feelings for him but they grew closer than before and then she fall out of love with Stefan and love Damon........... Damon was a vampire who was okay with hurting people, he's the one who don't understand Elena, and not only Elena but he was not good at being responsible for a vampire who had a strong bloodlust, in 1952 he tried to help Stefan with his bloodlust but he got scared of what Stefan become and left him, same as Vicki, same as Elena, the only thing he know is feeding and just because he can do it without killing them he thinks everyone can controlled theirs, this is also the reason Stefan didn't trust Damon to handle Elena in this situation...... And all of Damon stans act like he didn't prefer Elena as a vampire too, she was strong and more confident... He literally gave up the cure not once but twice knowing its what Elena wanted the most, he liked her as vampire because vampire Elena was the one who was in love with him and was afraid Elena feelings of him would change if she became human, Stefan's respect her choice from the start,he also said he did want her to become vampire too because that means they could lived together forever but he knew Elena wanted to be human and he keeps trying til the end, he also had hope if she have the cure there's a chance she'll be with him but that's not the point because even later seasons after she's with Damon all Stefan do was respect her choice and made her happy.
I really wish Rebekah clocked Caroline's tea. Because Caroline didn't care about sparing Stefan's feelings when she betrayed her best friend (Elena) by telling Stefan that Elena and Damon slept together. She felt that he had a right to know (which he did, but it just wasn't her place to tell). So I find it funny that Caroline is suddenly against Rebekah making Elena tell the truth about her feelings for Damon and why she moving the way she moving. I guess now she is concern of sparing Stefan's feelings. Or maybe Caroline had feelings for Stefan even back then and did what she did because a part of her was jealous at how Stefan was still in love with Elena and Caroline felt that Elena didn't deserve him. So she told Stefan the truth out of jealousy.
People saying that Elena doesn't deserve Stefan. He was the Ripper. How can anyone humanize that. He became the Ripper like 4x in the show and not show any remorse, really. Damon grew over the years and Stefan did not. But yeah, he's better than Damon (sarcasm)
damon killed everyone she loved because at first she did have real feelings for him. He can't control his self when he gets regretted from her. Rippah stefan was bad. Stefan wasn't his self. Literally forced to turn it off multiple times...
He didn't show remorse?? He was the only one who carried his guilts for every bad things he had done, not damon! He held him accountable for every bad thing he has even when his humanity was off! But never damon did that in his whole life! Stefan only did terrible things when his humanity was off unlike damon , who goes on killing spree when someone upsets him!! Damon was good at being vampire because he knew what he was doin' either it's abusing , feeding or killing people , he never felted guilty and never shown remorse for his acts cause "he can do it as fun" as he said himself for the info. And even if he felt guilty he does another bad thing to get away from it!! Like the reason he hold for killing lexi nd zach. But Stefan can never take it as a fun as he sees people as people not a thing or an object to be treated or used, again unlike damon!! And yes I kinda agree that Stefan isn't the better man or brother! Cause he's THE BEST MAN and BEST BROTHER! It is what it is.
He became a ripper trying to save people that he loves , he was forced several times to switch off his humanity and Stefan being a caring man , he was willing to go back to who he was just to save your so called delena.
the beginning of the series is good and then towards the middle and the end it becomes nonsense. even if I took pleasure in watching, after a while it really disappointed me. and I admit that being in the 6th season, I'm still not hooked on the role of Damon, I hate him. the first 3 seasons seasons were the best but from season 4, there is far too much going around in circles and we see that until season 8 to believe that the director was lacking in imagination and what m Also upset is Damon ending up with Elena instead of Stefan. Both the first 3 seasons there was a good story but after that it turns to the brink.
Why all people say that I have unpopular opinion we control who we fall in love with, because love don't start suddenly what starts suddenly is lust not love , love is much more that libido, love need time to grow so we if you find yourself admire by person you shouldn't have attention to him in this time you need to go far away don't be with him until it turn to love in this moment exactly you decide what you want and the limits between you and this person we control our actions and that's why I won't fall in love with married man or old one or my brother in law or in my boyfriend's brother because relationships aren't a game you need to respect other's feeling think about what they will fell and don't break heart of someone love you Put yourself in his/her shoes Sorry for my English
You are correct, should have just saved Elena and not Matt. The issue with Stefan was that he did not want to be hated, should have been used to it from Damon for many years
Elena is just like Katherine, good but evil at the same time. I hated her as a vampire, even in S6 when she temporarily lost Damon. Just feeding in whoever, allow it.
Rebekah could have done much more better cz she's an original in the beginning she was so strong as her character but then later they made her character worst than an average vampire she lost the charm of being an original
If I put my belief that Elena should’ve been with Matt I think there’s a part of her that would always love Stefan, but inexplicably there was a bigger part of her who was IN LOVE with Damon.
idk why but im on team rebekah here. she's been wronged by too many. even stefan! which is hard to believe, cos stefan is always d good guy. but even he's done some questionable things while having his humanity. when she tells him welcome to d last 900 yrs of my life i just felt it like dagger in my heart. i felt really bad for her. i felt empathy, n i dont know why😢
I wish Rebekah would’ve did this to Caroline about Klaus I would’ve really enjoyed that
Yo me alegro que Klaus muriese
I know right! 🤩
Yeah ❤😂🎉😮😅😊
Now we all know Rebekah can't compel her big brother.
@@talon532 no compel Caroline to admit her feelings about Klaus
You see how Caroline protects Stefan’s feelings even then 😢❤
She wanted Stefan in the beginning…this proves that us as humans don’t want the Person that’s better for you
Rebekah showed she was truly Klaus sister 😂 the drama is in their veins
Yes😂
"But between us girls, who would you have picked" 😂😂😂😂
Yea she sure did I love it too lol
1000 years of living will do that to you😅
very much an example on the reason for her nickname being barbie klaus
good thing Rebekah did this tho because it helped Stefan move on too, since Elena confessed that she was in love with Damon it gave Stefan the right to move on even if Elena still sorta loved him still.
Rebekah was having so much fun here lol
🤣🤣 yes she was!
I would have
bless her lmao shes such a toddler
Yes she's enjoying seeing stefan in pain because she was once in love with him.
"clowns make you happy elena dig a little deeper" 😂
Elena is the Playgirl here. After her parents died, she asked Matt for some alone time. But when Stefan arrived, she got all flirty with him. She did the same with Stefan when Damon came to her "rescue". After Stefan became a slave to klaus to save his brother's life, she was busy kissing Damon. She is a traitor. She doesn't even deserve Damon. The brothers fought unnecessarily for her. She isn't worth their love. She wasn't even worth matt's love
She was a whore she belongs to the streets
I'm sorry but this scene perfectly outlines why Stefan and Elena didn't work. Stefan couldn't accept her for who she was, this becomes more evident when she turns into a vampire...it only amplifies your human qualities. Elena and Stefan met when she was in a depressed state and more subdued/reserved. That appealed to Stefan because he was in the exact same state, and he saw Elena as his redemption. A better version of Katherine. His fixation with her had more to do with his own identity crisis than her. She was everything he wanted to be, so she had to remain this pure and untainted human being he should protect. But when she became a vampire, he wanted her to pretend to be human as much as possible and not display any negative qualities. When a cure became available he was so eager to fix her so that she could love him again, proving that he didn't completely understand her as a human. Now...this is important. Damon met her just before her parents' accident. He saw her at her "best" when her world wasn't unraveling. Those impulsive, carefree and sometimes selfish parts of her always existed before she turned. That's where her attraction to Damon stemmed from. People don't give her credit but she was extremely loyal to Stefan and kept Damon at arms length. The events of S3 would have been tough on anyone, Stefan was doing everything in his being to push her away. And that pushed her closer to Damon, but still she persisted in trying to save Stefan. Stefan always felt morally superior to Damon and like he was more deserving of Elena because of that fact. But Damon never claimed to be a good person, he never felt worthy of her love..he simply couldn't help his feelings. And he didn't expect her to feel the same way, he was willing to sacrifice her opinion of him if it meant that she was safe.. Even if she hated him, he didn't feel like she had to belong to him in order for him to love and protect her.
Wow, this is a good analysis!
This is soo beyond accurate and perfectly sums up how I always felt about the situation. Stefan and elena just didn’t work to me.
Very interesting……
Yet she begged stefan that she aint wanna be a vamp and wanted to have kids and shit and he tried his hardest to make that reality come tf on
First stefan morals is better than damon,s and elena was the one who cried that she doesn't want to be a vampire and when she is a vampire and he is feeling guilty he blames himself for it he tried to get her what she wanted and then she is being stupid
Damon didn't do anything for her but teach her how to feed stefan got her a daylight ring and tried to not get her to kill someone when she over feed in him he doesn't want her to feel that guilt Damon doesn't care if she kills anyone or about her guilt
3.She went to Damon because she wants to believe that it's OK to be a vampire there is nothing wrong she wants to ignore the fact that being a vampire is not ok which is a lie and she treated herself as the biggest thing to be fixed when she killed kol and his entire sireline just so she could get the cure
Stefan loved her both human version and vampire version if he didn't he wouldn't have gotten her a daylight ring or try to teach her to feed whitout killing someone
And damon was the ine who loved her because she looked like katherine since he loved katherine and Jr didn't start caring about her until after katherine broke his heart so he decided she looks like katherine let me love her
Damon doesn't respect her decisions he treats her like a child who dosen't know what she is doing he doesn't care what she it's what he wants like he told alaric he just wants elena to be happy with him only not anyone else again it what he wants that he cares about not what she wants
Thire relationship was built on the lie that being a bloodthirsty vampire is OK she doesn't want to face reality
Caroline made this scene! Lol she was like chill Rebekah 🤣
🤩🤩🤩🤩
she did not make the scene. her commetary moments were mostly an annoying distraction
If you notice Caroline is watching Stefan and reacting to protect him instead of Elena. And Rebekah's questioning is more designed to hurt Stefan from a variety of way. Just more proof that the real linchpin relationship in the show is actually Damon and Stefan since everything ties back to them.
This scene shows caroline is a good friend ❤
@@jishajawa9045 no she isn't u forgot she got with Stefan tf
@@jishajawa9045 no. No it doesn't. It proves she was after her friend's man every step of the way.
@@kaylabounds0615 not at all
She was already dating matt and tyler by the time elena and stefan were together , she always used to tell elena that stefan is the best guy for her
If she wanted stefan why would she ship stelena instead of delena
@@jishajawa9045 She wanted Stefan from day one. Matt and Tyler were distractions. She was too much of a friend to Stefan, which should have given Elena red flags as a friend.
I laugh when Rebecca said: clown will make you happy elena talk deeper
The Originals were always the best thing about this show
origs katherine and kai
Stefan and Elena grew apart. If you love someone, you love them no matter what. Damon loved Elena whether she was either a human or a vampire. Stefan couldn’t accept Elena as a vampire and was focused on fixing Elena. That feeling that you need to be fixed is not good for a relationship. Sometimes that can effect how you see yourself.
Because The bitch kept crying about how she didnt like being a vampire and stuff, what was stefan supposed to do
@@javierlopez9789 Yeah but even though she didn’t want to be a vampire it happened anyway. shit happens. It’s how you deal with it.
@@foursidedamico3101 she begged Stefan and cried to him in the beginning of season four on how she didn’t want to be a vampire and wanted a future with kids and a family and to grow old, to which he did just that. She loved Stefan, but fell out of love when she turned
@@slashbash6486 True. Her death changed her in many ways.
@@foursidedamico3101 yup made her darker, and more like Damon to which imo was a bad transition towards their relationship
If I was there I would've asked so many questions
To elena
Q1 when did u fell in love with damon ?
Q2 : Who do u care about more
Salvatores or ur friends ( bonnie , caroline , matt )?
Q3 : In a life or death situation who would u save stefan or damon ?
Q4 : Do u want both the salvatores ?
To stefan
Q1 . Elena or damon? Life or death situation
Q2. Do u love katherine? Would u be with her in future ? Do u came to mystic falls cause u wanted to find katherine ? Did u feel for elena only cause she looked like katherine ?
Q3. Do u think that elena was guilty for falling for damon ?
To Caroline
Q1 : Do you like stefan ?
Q2 : Do u have any feelings for klaus or have u ever felt something for klaus
Q3 : who do u care about more stefan or elena ?
Q4 : Bonnie or elena ? Life or death situation
Q5 : Are u jealous of elena ?
I can answer Stefan
1.He would choose Damon over anyone. This become clear in later seasons.
2.He did loved Katherine but not anymore.He was attracted to Elena because she looked like Katherine but he love Elena not Katherine.
3. I think Stefan was happy because she made Damon become a better person but he would think falling in love with Damon was wrong because they were in loved once and he loved her too not because he think Damon don't deserve her.
@@_lolo7423well said
Rebekah did this shit to prove a point. She was proving that sweet, innocent Elena ain't so sweet and innocent. Plus, stefan did get the girl daggered. I would have did this shit. But then again I'm petty and vindictive.
Rebekkah: Clowns 🤡makes you happy..... 😂🤣
Stefan left with Klaus, shut his humanity, Became a slave to Klaus just to save his brother's life. His brother on the other hand was busy flirting with his girlfriend. Why do people think Damon is the good guy??
What if the same thing happened with you? Your partner and sibling cheating on you when you left to save their life?? People always make Damon the good guy just because he is hotter.
✅💯💯💯💯💯 stelena forever ❤
People really forget what Elena did for Stefan. Yes she fell in love with Damon but let's not forget that she and Damon were the only ones searching for
Stefan when Klaus traded him for his blood to cure Damon. Not Tyler, Matt, nor Bonnie nor Caroline. Without her pursuing him, Stefan's probably still with the Mikaelson's and Steroline wouldn't happen. She's annoying for what she's done but come on, really.
No one expected Tyler or Matt to be searching 😂
Truth be told they probably only searched for Stefan because they had a guilty conscious and knew they owed him for his sacrifice. I mean Damon literally said it multiple times during that season
You do make a very good point i agree on
@@itwasntoptional2513
Damon searches for his brother because he loves him despite everything. The central love story on the show is about the brothers. It is Stefan's story of how he and his brother find they way back together.
Just imagine Stefan allowed Damon to die
let’s get one thing straight, elena never said she doesn’t love stefan, she does love him. she is IN LOVE with damon though. and stefan was not in a relationship with elena when elena caught feelings and kissed and dated damon, she did not cheat. she was loyal to stefan even after he got compelled to turn everything off but he was willing to let her and her brother die, of course she’d choose damon
She cheated through the whole of season 3 while Stefan was trying to safe his brother.;
@@yusufraage8554Yep PREACH that's why I HATE her😤🤬
@@yusufraage8554 well thats the only cheating i support
"Of course she would choose Damon" Who just killed her brother twice and raped and abused Caroline. And he wasn't compelled. 😂
@@FriendlyBatDoomdid we forget about when he was having his blood problems in season 1 and he treated Elena REALLY badly?
Time stamp 2:27 I just want Stefan to scream - Because I know you never wanted this! You never wanted to be a vampire. And that guilt will haunt me the rest of my life! It's MY fault you're a vampire! It's my fault you're in love with Damon....💔
Rebekah be speaking facts tho ✨ elena never deserved stefan.
She is better off with Damon. (Who loves her as either a Vampire or Human). Stefan could only love her as a human because it makes him feel better
@@joshthaller4754 , Stefan was only trying to find a cure cause of Elena's own good and cause she wanted her. Unlike Damon, he respected her choices.
Nunca Mereceu Mesmo!!
Stefan Era De+ Pra Ela❤...
She should have compelled Stephen too
Carley Garcia stefan*
Stefan didn't want to fix her.He wanted to fix her vampirism.
The best reason could have been that his brother was with her when he lost his humanity. She,being a woman,obviously went for the guy who care and loved her while stefan was no where around .
So,it seemed a little harsh for stefan who lost his humanity becoz of his brother and klaus.Also,if you love someone, you try to protect it preserve it as long as you can which in case from her only lasted for a season.
Being a vampire only amplifies the feeling so she didn't change when she became one,she had already changed before.
But for stefan lovers ,good thing is he got Caroline who ws better than Elena.
Finally some people can analyze this situation clearly. :) Thank you and I totally agree with you. Mostly people just consider the issues just because they are fan of Damon or Stefan. But we have to consider it with the characters personality and their point of view. Because the story does not only keep on according to our own expectations or desires. :)
This is such a layered situation so I’m just gonna bullet my thoughts:
- The argument that Elena had more personal growth w Damon than with Stefan, forgets that the show was written to Damon would always win. Stefan won the battles, but Julie made sure Damon won the war. I’m sure if she wanted Stelena to be endgame it would’ve happened-Caroline and Damon be damned.
- Stefan wanted to cure Elena, not because HE didn’t want her to be a vampire, SHE said multiple times before and after she turned that she didn’t want to be one. She wanted to grow old with Stefan and had she not turned, they probably would’ve sought out the cure for him so they could live happily ever after.
- Stefan’s biggest mistake was not checking Damon the minute he found out his brother wanted Elena. It doesn’t matter who met who first. Elena ended up in a relationship with Stefan and it was clear from the beginning Damon was not interested in honoring that.
- I used to fault Elena a lot for her S3 and 4 antics but I don’t anymore. Sis was being hunted and later used as a bloodbag for a sadistic Original Hybrid, lost her last parental figure Alaric, got turned into a vampire, then was told there’d be a cure for her vampirism, then lost her brother while trying to get it, etc. And while all of that is happening, the person she’s going through all of this for is unreachable, then his humanity is off and she’s never seen him at his worst before then, then he has to undo the damage he did while his humanity was off but here comes Damon who for once looks like the safe, stable, yet still hot one…Stelena didn’t stand a chance and it’s everyone else’s fault but it’s really also Julie’s 🤷🏽♀️
how did damon not have interest in honoring stefan and elena's relationship? he gave her back their necklace, he even debated with her when she blamed stefan for stuff in season 4 and tried to keep them together
@nobodysXghost He's always made multiple advances and finally gave in and kissed her when she was dating her brother. So no he didn't honor anything.
Perfectly stated! Point #3 though!!! I never liked Damon for this very reason and more. He NEVER had any respect for Elena n Stefan’s relationship and would boldly make advances at her and Stefan definitely should’ve dealt with him accordingly. It wasn’t until they slept together that I think Stefan fought with him. Damon always proudly said how selfish he was and his desires always came before others no matter who got hurt. Idc what nobody says, Damon got more love from fans because he’s more attractive or whatever but that man was TOXICCCC. In real life I’d never want to date someone like him 🤢
@@Sassy_Muffin136 what do you mean he didn't respect stelena, he helped them stay together by giving her his necklace to her, reassuring her that he would come back and he would get him for her, and when she was started to pull away from him he kept defending stefan's mistakes in their relationship and would secretly call stefan to come comfort her. people just love to cherrypick to abide by their own story they want to believe in
@@nobodysXghost hahaha its like you didnt watch the show.
Stefan deserved better lol
Did we forget about season 1 and his blood problems? and how he treated Elena? how he abandoned her? how he slept with Katherine ? No crap Elena fell in love with Damon..
she loves him but just not in-love with him anymore
sirebond is not love its lust.
well… this was satisfying to hear
Elena constantly gets crapped on and defied and dehumanized and poked fun at but in reality it was The Salvatores among most others other then Jeremy, Jenna, Bonnie, Grams, Caroline, Matt, Tom, Amara, And a smaller bucket list of other characters that had it coming to them The Salvatores other then Zack, The Mikaelsons, Katherine, Silas, Isabel, Tyler, Vicky, Cade, Kai, Sage, and most other show uppers did not deserve any kindness from Elena and if they did it was in small vials yeah.
Exactly, the Salvatores were bad for her. Klaus said it best "The worst thing for Elena Gilbert is the two of you." Damon killed Elena's brother and abused her best friend. Stefan stalked her for months, abandoned her and then tried to kill her. Neither of them deserved her and the only person who understood Elena wanting to lead a normal life was Rebekah.
This was the biggest W ever in this show besides Klaus and Caroline getting together
Rebekah humiliated stefan that's so sad
He slept with her,tossed her aside and hey..!.. helped Klaus shove a dagger 🗡️ through her..he pretty much deserved it.
I mean he did get the girl daggered AGAIN
Stefan deserves better than Elena. I'm really sorry for him. She's not the one for him all along. He always chose wrong partner in right time. He better off with someone else. I wish Damon dating Bonnie. I'm fan of Bamon endgame. Bonnie is healthy relationship for Damon.
I love this rebbekah it shows that shes also good at tormenting others like klaus also shows how rebbekah's dangerous side i hate the inconsistency bout what they did to bex. Like her killing 6 vamps then rebbekah getting snapped instatly then shes done like wtf they can make her dodge or something.
Poor Stephan
Not her fault If she is not in love with stefen anymore
And through all of this Stefan still worked his tail of to find the cure and give to elena, Damon looked elena in the eye and said he doesn't want her to be human despising that side of her Elena always aspired to be if you actually watched all seasons and didn't start from season 4.
Who will you love, the man that will fight to give you everything or the one who just wants to run your life?
@@davidtakyi14 the same Damon took the cure with her and both become humans at the ends
He changed her mind after all this. So I will chose the man who made mistakes, admit it and change after
This is where you're wrong Damon didn't evolve he was the same guy from the start to the finish and we all know the ending he had on this series was not in the book, it was plec awarding Ian for making her money and that's all it was
@@davidtakyi14 there is many books with different ends. In one book stelena is endgame, in other books delena is and in another both brothers died and Matt and Elena are endgame ( this is the version plec wanted and changed his minds after ) this serie ended longtime ago deals with the fact delena is endgame and move on
@@joelleginger599 Damon killed Elena's brother lusted after his brothers gf, cheated with his brothers gf.
If this was reality Elena would never have forgiven Damon and they used the sirebond to give the toxic Delena fans what they wanted.
But Nina left in the midle of the sirebond arc so they had to make Delena end game
But the real ending was always Stelena.
Another reason why i keep saying Elena and Damon don't deserve Stefan
Here I am and 2023 watching this scene again I don’t care what anybody say Elena was wrong you don’t fall in love with your boyfriends brother that’s just wrong on so many levels
Thank u very much ❤️🔥👏🏾
Elena is a bad person and Damon too
If it's true love then you do __ of not then don't. But you are right you shouldn't.
I don't get why ppl like Damon.
People just associate with Damon being the 'bad boy'. It's more of who they want him to be, rather than who he is. They act like he's a bad boy with mild temper issues when he's murdering, raping sociopath canonically. Because of the lack of criticism from the writing/writers and some parts of the fandom meant that Damon would never get a redemption arc since he was coddled so much. And he didn't.
Stefan..because the writers could be harsh on Stefan - he suffered actual consequences for even the slightest mistake, ironically made him a balanced and developed character. Not to mention more interesting. Even when JP admitted in the later seasons she didn't know how to write Stefan. He was still easier to watch than Damon.
Fuck Damon, Stefan is the better man!
He'll always be the better man Stefan Salvatore 👉♥️👈
Damon was the best is the best and Will be the best.
People Change, he changed
Damon is funny not serious man
And Stefan is serious a better and responsible man
2 of them different but they are best I like 2 of them
is just a show and people have taste
This was petty. But Rebecca had a point
i would have went ripper mode after that no more nice guy I'd be worse than Damon
I’ve come to a conclusion that Stefan was the “Nice guy” and Damon was the bad guy. Nice guys always finish last
See this is the kind of thought that makes life difficult for you lot in this world.
The nice guys always wins because wherever he goes on from the situation, job or the person he lost he will be loved cherished and admired elswhere for his nature experiencing newer and better things leaving the bad guy to be exposed to his real nature because the cover the nice guy gave him in that situation has been removed.
For example in a job where you're the nice guy and cover for the bad guy who(steals money, doesn't show up for work, neglect his duties) the very instant you leave the traces of his bad actions are exposed
it is the same in a relationship even if it is two people in the relationship(one good the other bad) or you're competing to be with someone.
Think about it in school the cool kids make themselves appeal to everyone than the good kids right, in the end it will be this cool kids that will work for minimum wage from the good kids.
The nice guy always wins, the bad guy is exposed
Should watch the rest of the series and you will see that Stefan be as much of a monster as Damon, worse in a lot parts of the series
@@joshthaller4754 No, he isnt worse than damon, damon literally sexually assaulted caroline and he kills people for no reason.. Stefan is only “evil” when his humanity is off, which isn’t something that he can help.
@@joshthaller4754 atleast stefan has morals
" she can't she's compelled "
2:34 damn bruh that's gotta hurt
The fact that people are saying Stefan wasn’t good for Elena and that Damon accepted her either way just proves that a lot of u don’t really understand this series. First of all Stefan loved Elena either way he only left her because he saw her becoming very close with Damon and knew that he couldn’t do anything about it he had to leave and save himself from more heartbreak and that BS Elena said about Stefan seeing her as problem was just utter nonsense because she was the same person who said she wanted to become a human and Stefan went looking for a cure for her he was just respecting her decision something Damon never did and it is just so frustrating to watch because she legit slept with his brother the next day and just pissed me off and I’m telling u I stopped the series after that because I couldn’t just continue and to be honest Stefan is the most mature amongst him and his brother seems like people are forgetting the fact that Damon has been trying to break up Stefan and Elena from day one and that just disgusted me because what kind of brother are u going after u own brothers girlfriend like seriously and the reason why I said Stefan is more mature is the fact that he still stayed after Damon and Elena were together like if it was down to me I’m leaving mystic falls the next day because there is no way I would watch my brother date my ex I don’t think this kind of stuff happens in real life I guess that y it is called fiction because for that is just f*cked up
Elena is the villain of the show. Stop defending her
@@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheesehe didn’t defend her did you read the reply well
Stefen never loved Elena. He loved Katherine.
Damon wanted to finally be someone's first choice and not just an object to be played with for once in his life.
The fact that it took Elena to become a vampire fan him to finally "breok up" with her shows how ridiculous he is. He wants a human Katherine. Hell never have it.
Elena is the villain of the series.
@@JL-XrtaMayoNoCheese your sure we watched the same TVD because you saying Stefan never loved Elena is a big lie do you know what it means to love someone
Agreed. Damon had no respect for their relationship and it was disgusting to watch. I literally used to skip the Delena scenes bc that was just messed up on all levels to me. No boundaries. No loyalty smfh. And I personally feel like they made Elena too weak in terms of Damon. Times when Damon would come all up in her face flirting with her, she would just stand there and let him do it while she was with Stefan. Like girl if you don’t tell that man to leave you tf alone 😒😒
Delena Always ❤
I like all 3 characters but I always loved Damon-Elena relationship more than Stefan-Elena
Clowns make you happy Elena,dig deeper ,this line right here 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Most Girls like toxic boys more Elena choosing Damon over Stefan was proof of it good people always get used by loved ones and thrown away like tissues 😢
I really love Rebecah here.
I am too disappointed with the turn the series has taken because Julie Plec has very badly managed the plots and the relationships between the characters, especially that of Stefan and Elena. I loved this series especially the first 3 seasons because the return of Katherine and the arrival of Klaus and the Originals caused a stir. But the show started to go down in quality from season 4 where Elena ended up with that damn jerk of Damon and Stefan ended up with Caroline. Why the series told us about soul mates if in the end none of the characters ended up with their twin flame, incomprehensible. I was really disappointed because I really regret what the production did with the couples. The series could have been good, but this is really sad. The first 3 seasons were great, but from season 4 it went all over the place and it ended in anything.
I totally agree. Like, Stefan and elena were endgame even from the very start
I agree 100000000000%
Agreed. Yeah, Damon was a fun fling. He’s attractive, the bad boy, etc. but they did not mesh. They fought so much later in the series because underneath all the sexual tension, fundamentally they were morally different. Damon is selfish. Let’s not forget Damon raped and fed on Caroline in the first season. She was under compulsion so there’s no way of saying it was consensual. He also snapped Jeremys neck without seeing the protection ring he had. And Jeremys death later on is the sole reason she had to turn it off. His death destroyed her. How is any of that forgivable? And then Damon, who LOVES his brother, moves in on his girlfriend. I get you can’t help who you fall for.. but he did not respect their relationship.
Stefan is no saint either but he worked for decades on fixing himself. He got caught up in the ripper era and Lexi showed him theres a better way. Thats all he was doing for Elena when she turned. Instead of letting her go off the rails and losing her humanity, let’s start off doing good. At the time, vampirism was permanent. So he just tried to prevent Elena from killing anyone because it absolutely wrecked her, even when the hunter died.
Steroline felt forced to me, like just something to be explored because there wasn’t any options left. Caroline should’ve been with Tyler or Klaus. She truly loved Tyler and she was with him during some dark times, especially during his early wolf days.
I could go on forever 😂
Damon’s better than Stefan
@@XX-sw2ty That’s your opinion and I respect it. I don’t want to be right or excuse Stefan’s bad deeds but having read the volumes of the literary saga The Stefan Journal by LJ Smith and after having reviewed the series in its entirety from a different angle, I was able to understand his character well, how he works, understand where his goodness is, what his limits are etc… Stefan is someone who is torn between his good and bad side. He is somewhat imprisoned by his bad side that calls him. One could say that he is a bit of a martyr, he does not even accept himself as a vampire. He has a humanity that brings out guilt, compassion and regret in him. He manages to bury in him his bad side that sleeps deep within him, a side that made him a sadistic person who liked to remember his murders. Yes, Stefan was far from being a one-note character, and his dark side resurfaced several times but unlike Damon, he had remorse when he committed atrocious acts because guilt gnawed at him with the humanity that remained in him. There were similarities between Stefan and Damon, but the former always wanted to do the right thing. To compensate for his Ripper cravings, he strove to be better, selfless, friendly and merciful whenever he could. Unlike Damon, Stefan feels guilty about the murder of each of his victims and quickly makes himself sick. He was helped by Lexi, a vampire he meets and learns from her to control his thirst for blood, and to feed on animals instead of humans. He has embarked on a sort of abstinence from human blood for centuries thanks to Lexi, Damon has never tried to abstain from human blood but Stefan has and he deserves a lot of credit for the incredible restraint he showed for many years of his immortal life. Even though he was an incredibly imperfect individual and trapped in many ways by his vampirism and blood addiction, unlike many other vampires and supernatural beings, he always tried to be better than he was. However, that does not mean that he always succeeded. In many cases, Stefan proved to be a hero. But, often, he proved to be more of a villain than a hero. We only focus on Stefan’s Ripper side and tend to forget that Damon did some beautiful horrors during the 8 seasons of the series and even before without being a Ripper and unlike Stefan, after committing horrible acts, he continued his life without regretting most of the time. And even if Damon had differences with Stefan, he said that his brother was a hero especially because of his haircut! It’s a running joke between the two Salvatore brothers that comes up several times during the series and that all true fans know, of course!
Stefan should have taken the hint. Elena doesn't need to be fixed and he should of moved on but unfortunately Stefan felt his love for Elena was eternal. I guess that was shared by Elena.
Plus the begging she did that she aint wanna be a vamp and wanted to have kids lets not forget the bitch need to take accountability
And look at how she turned out with Damon, In season 6 she became a junkie and turned into a vegetable by kai, burnt to ash by her own boyfriend who didn't give a shit in finding ways of bringing her back, she wasn't the same anymore
This adage is really true, if you sleep with trash be ready to see garbage on your face when you wake up
Rebecca was scared of klaus when he turned
Every time I watch this series and the originals I realise how lucky a lot of characters were that Rebekah wasn't evil.
Klaus would have just had them sit there quietly and get eaten. Except maybe Caroline
Agreed
Rebekah was evil though 💀 i mean look at her, watch the scene lol
Just cause she had a bad childhood doesnt excuse it
@@butterflyera2399 Compared to her siblings, she's an angel. Also said anything about a bad childhood? Nevertheless she didn't have a bad childhood she had a bad 1000 years and couldn't even kill herself to end her misery.
@@butterflyera2399 She did nothing evil in that scene, they're three vamps against one wolf she was just slowing them down, and that's exactly what happened. If she wanted to kill them she could have just compelled them to stop breathing.
Rebekah is the second bad character I fell in love with after Kathrine.
I prefer Rebekah over Katherine
I love rebekah!!!! Claire holt owned this role!
Honestly though Damons a lot better than Stefan. Damon accepted his vampirism but Stefan kept trying to deny what he was.
There's a reason why Katherine and the Originals never turned off their emotions. It's because they accepted that they were monsters. They accepted who and what they were.
Vampire Elena was honestly annoying as fuck with all the bitching and whining 24/7.
The cure was honestly complete bullshit as well. Worst thing about TVD easily.
Also Rebekah taking the cure makes no sense because Marcel won't be able to take it and she won't leave him.
the quality 💀🤤
This is why I dropped the series. Other than the stupid overdone love triangle they had everybody thinking Elena and Stefan were endgame but then out of nowhere it was Elena and Damon who in my opinion had zero chemistry 😂
Yes! Exactly. Stefan and Elena have amazing chemistry , but every time I see Damon and Elena it’s just boring and no chemistry. It’s sad that many fans were obsessed with Damon’s bad boy type and writer just wanted to please them and made Damon and Elena endgame.10+ years later and almost everyone understands that Stefan is a right choice
Not true...the books ended with Delena too.
@@CrystasorrowI don’t read the books.
How did they have zero chemistry when the actors dated in real life that’s so cap 😂
@@kloe6095 Them dating in real life has nothing to do with their chemistry on screen 🤣
When that one friend in the group starts saying the truth about everything:
Caroline is so pretty
I don't like the fact that Stefan sees Elena as a "broken doll". It was pretty evident in all of the vamp turning scenes that all Stefan wanted to do was help everybody get used of being a vampire, this includes Elena's scene. But this is only an opinion- don't come for me.
Well said
0:46 _Elena: : {MeRciLeSSly cRuShes. . S₺eLeNa₺oRs}_ ✓
Only Caroline cares about protecting Stefan. You can see she cared about him here.
As much as i am a delena fan, I think Stefan deserved better. I mean she broke up with him becuz he was trying to find her the cure of vamprism and she thought he was trying to fix her when precisely she wanted the exact same thing. I feel like it would have been better if she could just admit to stefan that she has feelings for Damon and thats why she needs to break up with him, instead of accusing Stefan and telling him that he sees her a 'broken toy'.
To all the people who keeps saying Stefan wanted to fixed her, well please hear this.
Elena was the one who think of herself as someone trying to be fixed, she literally killed Kol along with thousand just because she wanted the cure, the only reason Stefan keep trying is because he knew its what she wanted, Elena was the one who cried to Stefan about not wanting to become a vampire and talked about how she want a future with her own family, Elena may look carefree and enjoy feeding but that only happened because she was now a vampire, even as a vampire she want nothing more to be than be human, that's the only reason Stefan keep trying.... Vampires are impulsive, their emotions are high, the bloodlust are strong but not everyone has to be a serial killer or monster, Stefan knew this better than anyone, he tried to make Elena controlled her bloodlust and tried to make her feed animals so she wouldn't hurt innocent people,because Stefan compassion, his kindness and the way he tried to resist his bloodlust even at his worsts moment and the way he keeps trying is what Elena made him loved more, he knew better than anyone thats not what Elena really wanted to become of herself but because of the sire bond Elena couldn't feed any animals and she felt the need of Damon's helped, when we say the sire bond is the reason Elena love Damon this is it, if there's no sire bond Stefan helping her would be work and she wouldn't feel the need of Damon help, if the sire bond didn't happened her and Stefan would go through all of that together, when Damon made her feeding at the party she knew it was wrong but she also said why did she keep doing it, the reason is Damon told her its okay to feed like that but the real Elena still feel something was wrong but can't do anything about it, because of the sire bond she didn't go through many things with Stefan while she grew closer and closer to Damon, she already had feelings for him but they grew closer than before and then she fall out of love with Stefan and love Damon........... Damon was a vampire who was okay with hurting people, he's the one who don't understand Elena, and not only Elena but he was not good at being responsible for a vampire who had a strong bloodlust, in 1952 he tried to help Stefan with his bloodlust but he got scared of what Stefan become and left him, same as Vicki, same as Elena, the only thing he know is feeding and just because he can do it without killing them he thinks everyone can controlled theirs, this is also the reason Stefan didn't trust Damon to handle Elena in this situation...... And all of Damon stans act like he didn't prefer Elena as a vampire too, she was strong and more confident... He literally gave up the cure not once but twice knowing its what Elena wanted the most, he liked her as vampire because vampire Elena was the one who was in love with him and was afraid Elena feelings of him would change if she became human, Stefan's respect her choice from the start,he also said he did want her to become vampire too because that means they could lived together forever but he knew Elena wanted to be human and he keeps trying til the end, he also had hope if she have the cure there's a chance she'll be with him but that's not the point because even later seasons after she's with Damon all Stefan do was respect her choice and made her happy.
rebeca le abrió los ojos a estefan sobre elena y estefan por suerte empezó con carolina
What episode is this?
My stefan was hurt I really felt sorry for him and happy the truth came out and my stefan moved on
And caroline was there for him
Rebekah is more beautiful than all, villager elena
I really wish Rebekah clocked Caroline's tea. Because Caroline didn't care about sparing Stefan's feelings when she betrayed her best friend (Elena) by telling Stefan that Elena and Damon slept together. She felt that he had a right to know (which he did, but it just wasn't her place to tell). So I find it funny that Caroline is suddenly against Rebekah making Elena tell the truth about her feelings for Damon and why she moving the way she moving. I guess now she is concern of sparing Stefan's feelings. Or maybe Caroline had feelings for Stefan even back then and did what she did because a part of her was jealous at how Stefan was still in love with Elena and Caroline felt that Elena didn't deserve him. So she told Stefan the truth out of jealousy.
People saying that Elena doesn't deserve Stefan. He was the Ripper. How can anyone humanize that. He became the Ripper like 4x in the show and not show any remorse, really. Damon grew over the years and Stefan did not. But yeah, he's better than Damon (sarcasm)
Damon never grew sorry you got misinformed.
damon killed everyone she loved because at first she did have real feelings for him. He can't control his self when he gets regretted from her. Rippah stefan was bad. Stefan wasn't his self. Literally forced to turn it off multiple times...
Be serious 💀
He didn't show remorse?? He was the only one who carried his guilts for every bad things he had done, not damon! He held him accountable for every bad thing he has even when his humanity was off! But never damon did that in his whole life! Stefan only did terrible things when his humanity was off unlike damon , who goes on killing spree when someone upsets him!! Damon was good at being vampire because he knew what he was doin' either it's abusing , feeding or killing people , he never felted guilty and never shown remorse for his acts cause "he can do it as fun" as he said himself for the info. And even if he felt guilty he does another bad thing to get away from it!! Like the reason he hold for killing lexi nd zach. But Stefan can never take it as a fun as he sees people as people not a thing or an object to be treated or used, again unlike damon!! And yes I kinda agree that Stefan isn't the better man or brother! Cause he's THE BEST MAN and BEST BROTHER! It is what it is.
He became a ripper trying to save people that he loves , he was forced several times to switch off his humanity and Stefan being a caring man , he was willing to go back to who he was just to save your so called delena.
What season and episode
Elena found the cure took it and gave it to Damon and Rebekah
the beginning of the series is good and then towards the middle and the end it becomes nonsense. even if I took pleasure in watching, after a while it really disappointed me. and I admit that being in the 6th season, I'm still not hooked on the role of Damon, I hate him. the first 3 seasons seasons were the best but from season 4, there is far too much going around in circles and we see that until season 8 to believe that the director was lacking in imagination and what m Also upset is Damon ending up with Elena instead of Stefan. Both the first 3 seasons there was a good story but after that it turns to the brink.
LOL. That is Emma from H2O just add water. Weird.
Rebecca married klaus son Marcel had a family with him become a vampire again🧛♂️👪
Why all people say that I have unpopular opinion we control who we fall in love with, because love don't start suddenly what starts suddenly is lust not love , love is much more that libido, love need time to grow so we if you find yourself admire by person you shouldn't have attention to him in this time you need to go far away don't be with him until it turn to love in this moment exactly you decide what you want and the limits between you and this person we control our actions and that's why I won't fall in love with married man or old one or my brother in law or in my boyfriend's brother because relationships aren't a game you need to respect other's feeling think about what they will fell and don't break heart of someone love you
Put yourself in his/her shoes
Sorry for my English
What Season and Episode?
Ironically Stefan started all of this
You are correct, should have just saved Elena and not Matt. The issue with Stefan was that he did not want to be hated, should have been used to it from Damon for many years
I would of snitched 3:56 and callled klaus tell him his sister is trying to kill Elena and get the cure 🤣
I loved this scene love Rebekah
Why is Rebekka's accent not much understandable?
Poor stfean savlotore ❤❤❤
What is the name of the episode
What episode is this
Bex ate tbh
Elena is just like Katherine, good but evil at the same time. I hated her as a vampire, even in S6 when she temporarily lost Damon. Just feeding in whoever, allow it.
No, she was feeding because of herbs
@@britneyspears8138 I don’t care, she still did it. Ain’t any better.
Rebekah could have done much more better cz she's an original in the beginning she was so strong as her character but then later they made her character worst than an average vampire she lost the charm of being an original
i love your movie
wchich episode and season?
Damon Kol Stefan Rebecca all looked for the cure
Elana was the cure
If I put my belief that Elena should’ve been with Matt I think there’s a part of her that would always love Stefan, but inexplicably there was a bigger part of her who was IN LOVE with Damon.
But parang Ako ung nasaktan grabe ka Elena Ang sakit nun kau pa Naman ni Stefan Ang gusto ko sana si Katherine nalang at stefan
Elena is suffering why can’t you al see it?
Oh she always is gimme a break
Episode?
You should change the title cause Elena does love Stefan she’s just no IN love with Stefan
My work here is done
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The title is wrong.. she does love him she ist just not in love with him
idk why but im on team rebekah here. she's been wronged by too many. even stefan! which is hard to believe, cos stefan is always d good guy. but even he's done some questionable things while having his humanity. when she tells him welcome to d last 900 yrs of my life i just felt it like dagger in my heart. i felt really bad for her. i felt empathy, n i dont know why😢