Isn’t it already banned? Why are you still complaining about it? It’s gone, you seemingly got what you wanted, and ultimately it was good for the format as a whole. Move on.
I'd love to see Mondrak along Tamiyo and Ob Nixilis! Could even include "Kaya, Geist Hunter" to double those copies! Would make for an interesting 5-color deck.. if it even works.
It fine. Its not like he flooded or was mana screwed. The ONE good thing about those decks is that its over quickly. Unlike mono blue who takes FOREVER to decide to counter something that they need to counter...
@@luisgutierrez8047 if they go first you litterally do not have time to use any interaction that can effect their board. remember, target removal is litterally to their benefit as it just kills you faster, so you are pretty much required to use board wipe to deal with the issue, and even then if they have slip out the back you've just wasted your turn which is usually the end. I love ivy, I've been rooting for her to be a deck in standard, but the rot preists litteral only counter is not drawing her
I love how you flash the other cards you're talking about in the video just incase the viewer doesn't know what card that is. CGB doesn't do that. Great MTG channel.
Yes, this is the sign of a quality instructor who wishes his audience to learn and understand what he's talking about, so we can be all the more impressed and entertained by his playing ability.
I'd love to see what kind of shenanigans you could get up to with anointed procession, parallel lives, and Mondy here. Maybe break the game due to the sheer quantity of tokens? You'd have to find a way to get around the limit though
@@NoFutureForG0uda I'm reminded of that one guy who made a video where he created like 256 anointed processions. Then crashed the game client with no survivors. I think he made a few million tokens or something crazy.
@@dumplingdepinto im tempted to remove a wedding announcement, its crazy to say but it feels a bit underwhelming. Also, only one or two as you said, only to instantly reward rabble rousing
@@NoFutureForG0uda Not that crazy, really. Often, what this deck wants is to resolve a Rabble Rousing with something that gets instant value. A Wedding Announcement just draws a card if you get it with a big "Go Wide" push. A Jetmir can make that push _explosive._
@@Bluecho4 yeah, i meant its pretty amazing to have to say that WA feels meh when its been the absolute most reliable card for a while, with, like, meathook massacre
Jetmir seems like a Win-More card. It might close a game you were already winning (like in the Wedding Announcement game we saw), but it won't pull you back from the brink.
Would love to see a couple copies of awaken the woods or white sun's twilight as a back up mana sync for those treasure piles. white sun + king darien giving tokens indestructible is a combo I've been having a lot of fun with in my mondrak decks
I came back to add some card changes I felt like vastly improved my games. I took out 1 join the dance. I didn't find it as useful without mondrak out and a late game 4 1/1's was meh. With mondrak, did I really need 8? I was already winning on board. I took out 1 Adeline, I rarely drew it when I wanted, having double white on turn 3 wasn't the easiest either. Cut 1 Stimulus package. Like you mentioned in the video, two is redundant and feels bad if you have one out already or draw two in your opening hand. The 3 cards I added to really speed up the deck was 2 platoon dispensers and 1 nissa animist. The platoon can use mana to make a token, two with mondrak. It's another late game mana sink and the card draw is amazing! Plus a 4/6 inst easy for them to get past while you might be needing to rebuild or set up the board state. Two was the perfect number it also gives me something I feel is useful on the rousing. Getting the hide away on a 2 drop or so wasn't that exciting... Speaking of potentially exciting rousing hit, NISSA! Why spend many turns stimulus-ing with mondrak and greeter trying to build a nice state or flooding swing after swing of roused tokens, when you can nissa and make double big tokens! Also the minus isn't craterhoof sized, but the little boost can help and trample on those double big tokens she made!
I know you probably only do deck requests on Patreon @LegenvD but I would love to see you build a mono white Prison/Tax deck with these new Phyrexian cards Regardless- you are the MTG Goat ❤
Get rid of green and splash some black. Remove gala greeters, stim package and the briefcase. Get Devilish Valet and Kaya in there ASAP. You could also add a few Captain's Call and/or Burn down the House, these are great behind a rabble rousing if you've got a valet on the field but even as 4 and 5 drops they're incredible. 12 devils for 5 mana is insane, with or without a valet on the field. Having Mondrak without Kaya just feels wrong. Anyway, cool deck and great content as always.
Spending them on lands is never a bad choice since you will need them at one point anyway unless you only play Standard and even then they are a high priority choice
@@markvanderwerf8592 He does sort of play MTG for a living, so it's no surprise he'd ensure he has full access to all the cards he might need for deck building.
@@LegenVD I appreciate the answer. Wildcard economics is obviously a crucial part of the game for those on a budget. Standout content, as always - light-years ahead of the competition.
Amazing deck man, I just change one copy of briefcase to portal to phyrexia just in case of the game get too far but I'm having a lot's of fun with this list👍
I wonder if Symmetry Matrix could fit in a deck like this. So far I've yet to see anyone on YT or Twitch feature the card but last month I had a nice Matrix/Edgar/Clerics deck which did OK even without treasures or powerstones.
Out of curiosity, why is Jetmir's Garden the only triome from New Capenna without an animation? The other four triomes have animations, I'm fairly certain. Just wondered while watching this.
22:33 "So we don't need to go completely crazy. But kind of want to go completely crazy." Aren't you tired of being nice? Don't you just want to go apesh*t?
I wonder whether devilish valet would be useful here? 40 tokens are probably sufficient to win on their own, but 2^whatever trample haste would be a pretty spicy meatball.
I've been playing on Explorer and have encountered Obliterator numerous times as an expected "automatic win" when actually it's really nothing special. Token decks like this are far more difficult to answer, especially if they have a quick start.
possible to use Jaya, Fiery Negotiator, The Restoration of Eiganjo, Jetmir, Nexus of Revels, Jinnie Fay, Jetmir's Second, King Darien XLVIII, Queen Allenal of Ruadach
Could this deck be made to work in Best of 3? Feels like you would just get wrecked by (additional) sweepers coming in from the sideboard, with Farewell being especially brutal.
Farewell is indeed very rough. The cool thing about Mondrak is that it can set up a lethal board in the opponent's end step alongside enough Treasures and Stimulus Package, so you can sometimes still win through a Depopulate at least.
@LegenVD yea I made one, but I'm not great at deck building. Land base is meh. Every colorless land and a dozen white for Seraph and the 2/2 prototype/ 4/5 vig. I have almost no interaction. I feel like a win ⅓ of the time. Love watching ppl with go for the throat or the new mite: "wait, it's all artifacts? And my mite can give colorless protection?!"
@@LegenVD Perhaps you could dive into Historic and explore it's full potential? Your deck building skills are the stuff of legends, truly. Thanks for providing so much inspiration and great content by the way!
Holy cow, already hate this rotpriest poison deck. Easy predicted on view that rotpriest is broken card, should be banned. P. S. Your deck is fun to play... as ever 😄
The Blue/Green poison deck has a pretty bad win rate so far, but when it goes off it looks very impressive. I featured my own build on the official channel: th-cam.com/video/mC7jMeL5usw/w-d-xo.html
"We don't need to go ~completely~ crazy, but I kinda want to go ~completely~ crazy." - That's the LegenVD we know and love.
When your Johnny is stronger than your Spike
It's amazing how meathook would make this absolutely unplayable, while other sweepers are fairly manageable.
Isn’t it already banned? Why are you still complaining about it? It’s gone, you seemingly got what you wanted, and ultimately it was good for the format as a whole. Move on.
@@ryanbolson23 🤫
@@ryanbolson23alright Timmy settle down there
People still play depopulate, which would work. Definitely not as brutal as meathook but I’m glad that’s gone lol
@@reidyo5404 depopulate doesnt necessarily gets rid of Mondrak, and this deck doesnt have too much trouble rebuilding if Mondrak sticks
I'd love to see Mondrak along Tamiyo and Ob Nixilis! Could even include "Kaya, Geist Hunter" to double those copies! Would make for an interesting 5-color deck.. if it even works.
Mondrak would not copy the Ob-Nixilis copy as it is a spell being copied, not a token being created
@@jordansparks140 but can still double the ob nixilis devil tokens. There are some mardu lists floating around
@@jordansparks140 doesn't the spell specify that the copy creates a token though?
Patreons get to suggest and vote for decks btw. Like, this could happen.
@@MidgarMerc copying a permanent spell will cause it to enter as a token which is not the same as a token being created
That Match 5 was heartbreaking.. It will be interesting to see how they deal with this card moving forward.
It fine. Its not like he flooded or was mana screwed. The ONE good thing about those decks is that its over quickly. Unlike mono blue who takes FOREVER to decide to counter something that they need to counter...
@@luisgutierrez8047 Sure, but while the opponent barely did anything, LVD wasn't even close to winning. But yes, at least it is over quickly.
@@Big_Dai wasn't a good matchup. Legend had zero interaction
I hope they ban this bullshit. In many cases you can't even play anything and they just cast a few 1 mana spells to win.
@@luisgutierrez8047 if they go first you litterally do not have time to use any interaction that can effect their board. remember, target removal is litterally to their benefit as it just kills you faster, so you are pretty much required to use board wipe to deal with the issue, and even then if they have slip out the back you've just wasted your turn which is usually the end. I love ivy, I've been rooting for her to be a deck in standard, but the rot preists litteral only counter is not drawing her
I love how you flash the other cards you're talking about in the video just incase the viewer doesn't know what card that is. CGB doesn't do that. Great MTG channel.
I try to go the extra mile!
Yes, this is the sign of a quality instructor who wishes his audience to learn and understand what he's talking about, so we can be all the more impressed and entertained by his playing ability.
I'd love to see what kind of shenanigans you could get up to with anointed procession, parallel lives, and Mondy here. Maybe break the game due to the sheer quantity of tokens? You'd have to find a way to get around the limit though
oh you clearly do, 3 anointed is very much high enough to easily crash and tie the game
May I introduce you to scute swarm. Breaks the game all by itself, even with the token limit.
@@NoFutureForG0uda I'm reminded of that one guy who made a video where he created like 256 anointed processions. Then crashed the game client with no survivors. I think he made a few million tokens or something crazy.
@@moalboris239 and this is why the token limit is on total tokens and not individual types. So people don’t murder a server or two.
This is a really cool deck. Arena really hits that dopamine drip when you make dozens of tokens.
Your deck building skills are incredible. Love your videos man !
23:34 i love how the gala greeters greet us louder every stack
When Legen says you seem to be in trouble, you’re already dead. Nothing personal
Poor Jinnie still can't get a look-in 😢. Very nice snowbally kind of deck though! Good job once again LVD.
I really want to get a Mondrak + Ratadrabik combo going. I've only pulled it off once, but my opponent already had victory in the bag
Yeah, both Mondrak and the black dominus have interesting interactions with Ratadrabik, I'm waiting for someone to make that deck.
Jetmir seems like a natural payoff in this deck, though the 4 drop slot is quite crowded
Yup, I'd take out 1 Mondrak and 1 Package for him, it's just too good/fun.
@@dumplingdepinto im tempted to remove a wedding announcement, its crazy to say but it feels a bit underwhelming. Also, only one or two as you said, only to instantly reward rabble rousing
@@NoFutureForG0uda Not that crazy, really. Often, what this deck wants is to resolve a Rabble Rousing with something that gets instant value. A Wedding Announcement just draws a card if you get it with a big "Go Wide" push. A Jetmir can make that push _explosive._
@@Bluecho4 yeah, i meant its pretty amazing to have to say that WA feels meh when its been the absolute most reliable card for a while, with, like, meathook massacre
Jetmir seems like a Win-More card.
It might close a game you were already winning (like in the Wedding Announcement game we saw), but it won't pull you back from the brink.
Would love to see a couple copies of awaken the woods or white sun's twilight as a back up mana sync for those treasure piles. white sun + king darien giving tokens indestructible is a combo I've been having a lot of fun with in my mondrak decks
This is incredible. Im still playing your Turbo Tutelage deck from Duels Origins lol
The person who built the deck in match 7 needed to be hugged more as a child.
Yay lvd video just in time for lunch
Same
Play this deck in paper to stall the entire gamestore figuring out each turn, counting gala greeter triggers etc
Mondrak anointed procession ethereal absolution. That sounds fun.
I came back to add some card changes I felt like vastly improved my games.
I took out 1 join the dance. I didn't find it as useful without mondrak out and a late game 4 1/1's was meh. With mondrak, did I really need 8? I was already winning on board.
I took out 1 Adeline, I rarely drew it when I wanted, having double white on turn 3 wasn't the easiest either.
Cut 1 Stimulus package. Like you mentioned in the video, two is redundant and feels bad if you have one out already or draw two in your opening hand.
The 3 cards I added to really speed up the deck was 2 platoon dispensers and 1 nissa animist. The platoon can use mana to make a token, two with mondrak. It's another late game mana sink and the card draw is amazing! Plus a 4/6 inst easy for them to get past while you might be needing to rebuild or set up the board state. Two was the perfect number it also gives me something I feel is useful on the rousing. Getting the hide away on a 2 drop or so wasn't that exciting... Speaking of potentially exciting rousing hit, NISSA! Why spend many turns stimulus-ing with mondrak and greeter trying to build a nice state or flooding swing after swing of roused tokens, when you can nissa and make double big tokens! Also the minus isn't craterhoof sized, but the little boost can help and trample on those double big tokens she made!
imagine meathook still in standard against this deck
Myrel and the gondor horn is amazng with mondrak surprised to not see those bangers
Horn of Gondor isn’t legal in Standard (and didn’t exist when this video was made).
@@LegenVD ah ic thanks for the info. 🤟
22:32 Me everyday of my life LMAO xD
Ooh I saw an Orzhov version of this deck that used Sorrin to make twice the vampire tokens haha
I know you probably only do deck requests on Patreon @LegenvD but I would love to see you build a mono white Prison/Tax deck with these new Phyrexian cards
Regardless- you are the MTG Goat ❤
In match 5:
Luca: they have 2 rotpriests now
Me (in my head): FROGPRIEST FROGPRIEST FROGPRIEST 🐸 😂
now this is what you call SYNERGY!
Get rid of green and splash some black. Remove gala greeters, stim package and the briefcase. Get Devilish Valet and Kaya in there ASAP. You could also add a few Captain's Call and/or Burn down the House, these are great behind a rabble rousing if you've got a valet on the field but even as 4 and 5 drops they're incredible. 12 devils for 5 mana is insane, with or without a valet on the field.
Having Mondrak without Kaya just feels wrong.
Anyway, cool deck and great content as always.
nice idea, with which lands would you go? there is no 3 type land with white blue black
Mondrak + Manaform Hellkite + Croaking Counterpart = 😁😁😁😁😁
Match 3 was actually crazy close. At least, it seemed close; not that you’d ever know it by the commentary
I've often been curious, LVD, how do you spend your wildcards? It seems to me that using them on dual lands would be a top priority.
Spending them on lands is never a bad choice since you will need them at one point anyway unless you only play Standard and even then they are a high priority choice
That’s where they often go to at first.
Seems he has so many not to bother thinking about this stuff. Can just get everything
@@markvanderwerf8592 He does sort of play MTG for a living, so it's no surprise he'd ensure he has full access to all the cards he might need for deck building.
@@LegenVD I appreciate the answer. Wildcard economics is obviously a crucial part of the game for those on a budget. Standout content, as always - light-years ahead of the competition.
Mondrak is fun with ratadrabik. If mondrak dies, you get 2 copies of mondrak, I believe
That is certainly a savage deck
vesuvan duplamancy plus mondrak is really fun because it quickly gets out of hand when the copies of mondrak starts copying the copies of the copies
A Devilish Valet would be a good addition to this deck
This deck would be a nightmare to play (with or against) in paper magic. So many maths
Amazing deck man, I just change one copy of briefcase to portal to phyrexia just in case of the game get too far but I'm having a lot's of fun with this list👍
I love me some tokens! Especially double tokens!!
This deck looks to be a blast. I wonder if there's room for Devilish Valet....🤔
Excellent deck!
I wonder if Symmetry Matrix could fit in a deck like this. So far I've yet to see anyone on YT or Twitch feature the card but last month I had a nice Matrix/Edgar/Clerics deck which did OK even without treasures or powerstones.
It's just a little too slow for Standard I'm afraid.
Out of curiosity, why is Jetmir's Garden the only triome from New Capenna without an animation? The other four triomes have animations, I'm fairly certain. Just wondered while watching this.
No idea
Massacre Wurm: your soul is mine!
No halo fountain or explosive singularity for a one of style win!? Lol sure it wouldn’t be as consistent but it would be pretty fun as a win condition
22:33 "So we don't need to go completely crazy. But kind of want to go completely crazy."
Aren't you tired of being nice? Don't you just want to go apesh*t?
I wonder whether devilish valet would be useful here? 40 tokens are probably sufficient to win on their own, but 2^whatever trample haste would be a pretty spicy meatball.
Would certainly end the game a turn sooner, but at the same time can be a bit win-more.
Match 3 gave me an aneurysm
Don't like to fight the deck in standard, but looks like a fun strategy for edh.
I think cutting one Stimulus Package for one more Wandering Emperor would be fine since they feel bad when you get more than one on the field
I see Naya Dragons with Magda for Explorer after this treasure fest xD
Hi LVD! I'm trying to make an Abzan token deck myself. Do you have any suggestions? Ngl, I'm a total simp for Mishra, so I had to add him in.
I've been playing on Explorer and have encountered Obliterator numerous times as an expected "automatic win" when actually it's really nothing special. Token decks like this are far more difficult to answer, especially if they have a quick start.
jetmir could be a nice addition
possible to use Jaya, Fiery Negotiator, The Restoration of Eiganjo, Jetmir, Nexus of Revels, Jinnie Fay, Jetmir's Second, King Darien XLVIII, Queen Allenal of Ruadach
Jetmir would've been fun here
Love the deck. Thank god Meathook is no longer in the format.
Could this deck be made to work in Best of 3? Feels like you would just get wrecked by (additional) sweepers coming in from the sideboard, with Farewell being especially brutal.
Farewell is indeed very rough. The cool thing about Mondrak is that it can set up a lethal board in the opponent's end step alongside enough Treasures and Stimulus Package, so you can sometimes still win through a Depopulate at least.
Not running jetmir in a deck like this is probably not a good idea
With influx of artifact creatures with bro and one, what a out a mechtitan deck?
Might be worth a revisit.
@LegenVD yea I made one, but I'm not great at deck building. Land base is meh. Every colorless land and a dozen white for Seraph and the 2/2 prototype/ 4/5 vig. I have almost no interaction. I feel like a win ⅓ of the time. Love watching ppl with go for the throat or the new mite: "wait, it's all artifacts? And my mite can give colorless protection?!"
Who ever is reading this... have a great day! 💖💛🧡💖❤💝
I saw a deck with copper dragon , mondrak, dune heroine, any idea ehat that could be?
I'd like to see some kind of token generator like this with Graaz, making 5/3s to go all over the opponent
Man, imagine if hook was still around... glad it's not, by the way.
what about the 4 mana cat
I thought I was gonna see one or two Halo Fountains in the deck, maybe a little too janky
Didn't consider to make Mondrak + awaken the woods ?
Don’t have much to spend all that extra mana on 😅
@@LegenVD why use them as mana when u can swarm the opponent with them going face :^)
Do Jetmir instead of Stim package!!
Could try bootlegger stash
lol "and were good i gain 30 1/1 tokens, i wont kill him this turn."
Hmm, Am short 2 of the 4 drops, so I'm trying it with Jetmir .
Solid replacement!
Devilish Valet and Mondrak please for that -700 opponent lifetotal
This deck is begging for 4x Prosperous Innkeepers.
Sadly not in Standard anymore.
@@LegenVD Perhaps you could dive into Historic and explore it's full potential? Your deck building skills are the stuff of legends, truly. Thanks for providing so much inspiration and great content by the way!
Holy cow, already hate this rotpriest poison deck. Easy predicted on view that rotpriest is broken card, should be banned. P. S. Your deck is fun to play... as ever 😄
The Blue/Green poison deck has a pretty bad win rate so far, but when it goes off it looks very impressive. I featured my own build on the official channel: th-cam.com/video/mC7jMeL5usw/w-d-xo.html
*Where is your Jetmir in this deck?*
*I demand a Jetmir for janky amounts of damage!*
Dude
The new cards feel way too broken. Like the most powerful cards from previous sets feel like they don't even compare to some of ONE'S uncommons
Match 3 opp literally let you win lol... He was so scared of your tokens just just... Did nothing.
50% deck =(
Poison deck is so boring, it's solitaire. Ban rockpriest.
Insert token provides value related comment here
I'm already bored of Rot Priest lol
Poison is so dumb
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