Harry And Meghan "VICTIMS Of STUPIDITY" | Tom Bower x Kinsey Schofield
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- Royal author Tom Bower joins Kinsey Schofield to reveal the secrets of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry's ongoing feud with the British Royal Family.
Tom Bower accuses Meghan Markle of extremely poor behaviour, Prince Harry of disloyalty, and said the 'ginger whinger' has become a tool "of a group of anti-media lawyers and other agitators in London".
He believes Prince Harry and Meghan Markle regret treating the Victoria Beckham and David Beckham poorly, which lost them valuable allies as a result. Something covered in his latest book, 'The House of Beckham: Money, Sex and Power'.
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Her niece is cute and would get publicity is also the reason she did not want the niece at the wedding. She wanted all attention on her ONLY.
Love the new dog bowl from Buckingham Palace Collection!!!!
yes so right! What is the purpose of Harry's life now. He seems stuck
I just now subscribed, YEAH!!!!!! My bad, I was going to subscribe a long time ago. Sorry Kinsey!!!
Love kinsey Schofield beautiful smart sexy nice ass thats why I watch 😂😂❤❤😂😂❤😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
A box of rocks could outsmart Harry & Meghan.
Remind youn9fvyour parents
Smiling.
Ain't that the truth
H hangs on to his wife thinks she the smartest,and will provide fame and fortune for them ? 💸💸
He is no longer a young man. My God he's turning 40!!!!
It doesn't take much to be smarter than the Harkle's
It would take a miracle to be more stupid in my most humble opinion.
Exactly my dog is smarter than them toxic 2 😂😂😂😂
Saying Harry is damaged implies that someone "damaged" him. Perhaps some of his therapy has damaged him, but he has mostly destroyed himself. He can't keep blaming his family.
Damaged due to his long and well publicised drug use since his Eton days,
@@janelewis6303 Agree - many drug users damage themselves/their lives and no one else had anything to do with it but them.
I think being an angry, envious child competing for attention is what truly created Harry, not the trauma of losing a parent. I believe he would have had problems even if his mother were still alive today.
Human beings are more complex than that. Both parents are responsible for raising a healthy child. Traumas do matter.
His family thought he was cute and laughed at him when he misbehaved. They did him a real disservice. Harry doesn't have the intelligence and common sense that his brother Prince William has.
He had everything but without the responsibility like his Brother, what more could you ask for!
But he wants to wear the crown.
A functional brain?
@marianac715 I don't think he does, that's the dripfeeder telling him to think that
Ellenritters- omg - you could not have said that better 😂😂😂♥️🇨🇦🐈⬛
@@ellenrittgers990😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bower is an excellent author. If he wasn’t then the Harkles would have sued him. The Harkles will never be on par with the Wales or the Beckhams.
David and Victoria seem like good people. They just need to keep doing what they’re doing and stay away from Meghan Markle
Yes, l agree they are nice people who have brought up their children to be decent and well-rounded individuals
They also want their Knighthood
Another Meghan stalker !!!
He stood for hours to view the late Queen. He could have used his celebrity to push in. He didn’t. Very classy.
David has done more for British football than any other British footballer and does a lot for charity behind the scenes but keeps it quiet so if he got a knighthood it would be well deserved!
Harry is a hypocrite
So is his wife
Victims of stupidity?😂 are you ok..they are not...they are stupid but not victims.
Victims of stupidity = dummies
Victims of their OWN stupidity I think 🤔
YES that is obviously Bower's take on them. @@ellengraham-jp2ph
Well, they really are...Victims of Their own stupidity..
I'm British, a Monarchist, and from the very onset of the H&M story... There were Big Questions...
The kind of Questions no one in the UK asked of William & Catherine...No one.
Everyone expected William to "eventually" Ask Catherine to be his wife...and Everyone was Happy about this.
We Knew Catherine...We'd seen the taunting, the Jokes about her, and her Middle class and successful Parents...
We'd seen her resilience, even when William put the Brakes on...Stepped back...took a good look...yes, checked around...and realized he'd been an ass... to Listen to his Brother. It was Harry who said...Wow, Perhaps you should shop around first?.
We always knew...Catherine was the One ! There was balance and symmetry between them both.
Meghan came out of "No Where"... Much was said about her role in the TV series Suits...and, honesty at the Time of THEIR engagement... Britain was somewhat staggered. BUT...There you go... The Brits adored Harry. They sooo wanted him to have a happy ending!!
Yes, he was a screw up...Yes, he was spoiled in a way William never was... We all saw that. So much less...was expected of him. In a way it clearly was not of William.
We were all confident William had got his Happy Ending...The British Public and perhaps further afield too...People REALLY WANTED That for Harry. Too many People Just crossed their fingers and prayed...NO ONE LESS SO than the Late Queen Elizabeth and his Father...Prince Charles !! Both very astute people, Bother very well informed People who have seen "Life".
Whatever anyone ANYONE Thinks about Prince Charles... I can't imagine...They didn't realise... His Divorce...from Diana...wasn't something he wanted !! in fact its the Last Thing He Wanted !! BUT It Happened.
Even on Paper that Union, Prince of Wales and Diana Spencer was always going to be hard to work out. Back in those days... No One ever thought...They Would Divorce!! Whatever their issues...They Can Never Get Divorced, He's the Heir to the Throne...Britain's Next King!! Diana is the Next Queen of England? IT WAS UNTHINKABLE.
Yet it happened.............. and that changed so much.
On Paper...Why would a reasonably successful American woman of some note...even wish to "Give up her free easy lifestyle" ? Not to mention her Independence, her ability to earn her own income... Choose what roles she was going to take on... IN Order to Marry our complex , damaged, spoiled, Prince ???... We Loved him... BUT...Were Different, we have too!!
Meghan didnt have too...or did she ?
On Paper she had it all...then we started to "find out"...about her life and her former relationships and the shocking way she ended her last Marriage...how she didn't really see her Father or That side of her family...How she had cut herself off from them...Her Mothers "past" was Blurred and Shady at best!
Slowly... We heard her Friends were divided in their Opinion of her.
Meghan's treatment of people in General !!!
BUT, No One could Argue... There was that... Amazing "Brighten your Day Smile" and Harry seemed to have "grown up" overnight !! Could this ...be the making of Harry? We damned well Hoped So.
Alas it was the Dismantling of our Beloved Prince Harry that was taking place...You'd have needed to be an expert to Do that to him and Make sure every part was polished and Put Back... Meghan was capable of doing that. The Guru's she Got Harry involved with...Were not That Good !!
So what is left isn't...The Prince we knew and loved ! It's a Ghost of that man who once was. Our worst fears were proven right. Meghan was not... the right woman... For Our Prince.
The difference is that David has far much more talent than Harry and used that talent to his benefit after retiring from football. He is revered world over
Victoria has talent, and Meghan does not. When the spice girls split, she started her fashion house, yes it struggled. But she stuck with it, Meghan does not. She moves on to the next thing because she wants instant results. She needs to realise you have to work at it.
I like what Mr Bower said about H”he doesn’t have the intelligence…””poor H
He takes after his Mother🤣
Never will she bring down our Royal Family 🤬never !!!
That will never happen. Markel is evil but not smart enough. The Royal Family is highly intelligent and ahead of the game! Always!!
Great comment
@@mj3845yes they're ahead of a middle aged old escort who was on the game and caught our gormless addict Prince in her web.
Not even close !!!
@@mj3845so are the puplic!!’
I don't think Victoria is a jealous person at all. Her many kind acts of generosity are well documented. She's a very kind person, in no way whatsoever is she remotely like the Duchess of Dumbarton
I think she was insecure at first as she knew that her singing skills were sadly lacking, but she has earned her stripes as a fashion designer.
harry may have been born with the title of prince, but he doesn't act like one. The contrast between h and his brother, William, is obvious.
I'm convinced this 2 individuals never grew up. They act like kids.
While they are both middle aged! Ridiculous!!
It’s called “arrested development” - both still adolescents. Hallmark of those who begin using substances before adulthood.
Sorry, you're insulting kids by comparing H&M to kids. They are morons
Narcississts are toddlers in an endless tantrum
No, they are both severely mentally ill...and do not act like normal children at all, but psychopathic ones...
The destructive duo
The only honest thing that’ came out of M’s mouth is”I am such a fraud “
They are a joke. No value at all
The despicable duo.
@@TeaganP-r2l that exactly
Touche ! Only know how to grift!
The Beckham’s worked incredibly hard hard for all they have achieved 🎉
Clothes never sold out when Meghan was in the royal family 🤔
They make sure there is a small quantity available so it looks like thousands sold when it’s like 5
David and Victoria have no need to be jealous of Harry and his bag of bones! None of us do!
Catherine please stop with calling her Kate 🤷
Isn't it annoying 🙄
Kate should have used her real name when she was dating William.
Does it really matter doesn't bother me
I don't get why people get their knickers in a twist about this!
@christenedoering7720 me neither. If I was lucky enough to be in her company I'd call her Catherine. But Kate is warmer I think.
We all know they're not the sharpest knives in the drawer😊
Glad to see Tom Bower, again.
I don't believe Meghan has ever looked good in her clothing choices. To my knowledge no designer has had Meghan as a representative.
Only that one blue dress. The beckham dress...
Sometimes one needs an honest friend to say no don't wear that or.. hey, this would look good on you. Seems as if her "friends" are paid for
@@shirleymattingly5137 IF they were trained to advise on clothes And she listened and acted on the advice - She'd look better !
She doesn’t have the IT factor to pull off high fashion.
@@user-yp9od3lx6lnah that was to tight, 5 seasons to late and seen on everyone else before.
Big difference. David and Victoria Beckham are very talented, where as those two, no talent at all.
DAVID WAS ASKED DID HE WANT TO GO STRAIGHT TI THE FRONT AND HE REFUSED 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
And so he should wait in line. Beckham didn’t do anything of valor bc he said that he would wait in line. And so he should. He’s not Royalty. He’s just the same as everyone else waiting in line except he’s loaded $$$.
@@user-sy6fj2bm1zbut didn't stop pedo scofield and Holly!!! David waited because he had respect something you need to learn 😂😂😂😂
@@user-sy6fj2bm1z he bought those around him,whilst they waited in the long queue, coffee and doughnuts
He has immense respect for the late Queen and Royal Family, he was there to mourn and pay his respect for the Queen. 💜
@@user-sy6fj2bm1z he set a good example .❤money or not money ❤
Please show Princess Catherine the respect she deserves and stop calling her Kate!
As for Harry stop calling him Prince Harry - he asked people to call him “Just Harry” so please do so as he is no longer royal in the eyes if the British people. He chose his path and now he must suffer the consequences!
Thankfully the Beckham family wasn’t all the way in with these 2 grifters. Wise to cut them loose. And Hollywood “elite” (I hate calling anyone elite, in God’s eyes we are all the same) backed away from the toxic duo and some of the smart ones didn’t go to the wedding for someone they didn’t know. This dastardly duo have caused far more harm to themselves than the RF. In fact they make the RF more loved. We all have those awful family members and we sympathize with them.
Beckham vs Harkles aka Class vs Trash🤭
And we all know - say it with me, now - YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID 😊
So true!!! 😅😂🤣
stupid is forever
Stupid is forever
I did say it with you✔️
Hear, Hear.....
David told Harry where to go. Good job. Victoria is a decent person...not like Meagain at all.
Harry needs to realise that a drunk driver killed his mom, not the paparazzi. Kinsey if you ever do anything on the Kardashian’s, I will lose all respect for you…. Please don’t!!!!!
She jumped on the where is Catherine bandwagon, that was enough for me.
Kinsey was suggesting Mr. Bower write a book about them. Context, context, context...
@@emmacsakSame for me too
I agree! The Kardashians are total trash. They've affected so many young women's and men's lives negatively. The Kardashians are all about selling their bodies.
Plus - no seatbelt
Didn’t Tyler Perry help harry and wife move to LA? That man has an black only (racist) movie studio and he NEVER offered a role to Harry’s wife? Begs the question why? just curious…
Because her resume states she is white!
@@donnaeilerman7458🤣🤣🤣
Congrats on getting a great interview with Tom Bower 💕I bought his book REVENGE to support Tom exposing lies, grifting and fakery of Harry & Meghan. His new book on Beckhams sounds brilliant!
Harry has no purpose in life very powerful from Tom
It wasn't a huge well of sympathy as much as apathy in the US. They keep drawing negative attention to themselves.
Megsy....beautiful?!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sorry, no. She is the perfect example of beauty coming from within, which in her case, yeah not so much........🇨🇦
She might be on the surface, take away the hair extensions Botox false teeth 🦷 fake nose and she looks like this 🧟♀️🏴🏴🇬🇧
She has plastic surgeons and cosmetic dentists who have worked to improve her appearance.
Hi Kinsey: I just love how respectful you are to your guests. I also appreciate how you take the time to listen and not to continually interrupt. Such a breath of fresh air you are!
I am American living in Norway, and love VB's style and fashion designs. I am not a soccer fan so I cannot say anything about her husband. In my opinion, the UK couple have more class and less need for being friends with Harry and Meghan than the other way around. Meghan is disrespectful to all, not just the late Queen. The Beckhams do NOT need the Su-suckses because they have almost everyone else on the planet loving either their fashion or soccer talent. ❤
The Beckhams outsmarted the Sussexes? A *poodle* could outsmart that pair!
😂😂😂😂
Hey….Poodles are quite intelligent!❤
A Poodle? A PUDDLE could outsmart Hazbeen & Methane.
Good old Tom tells it as it is
David Beckham was the England Football Captain.
Tom is always great. Revenge was sooo good
Tom Bower’s interviews are always the best. He is brilliant.
Yes, I agree. Tom Bower deserves such respect and appreciation for his work . Simply and awesome biographer! 💯🇬🇧
Harry and Meghan are a “one way” street always! The Beckhams did the “next right thing”. Meghan has taken away EVERYTHING that was important to Harry. If Harry accepts The Pat Tillman Award tonight I believe it will be the end of his popularity, if he even has any popularity left. If he is smart (and doesn’t listen to his wife) he will name a truly worthy person to pass the award to. Scott Smiley is a young man who was blinded by a car bomb in Afghanistan . He is a husband and father of 3 your sons. THIS man deserves the Tillman Award. Read about him on Wikipedia.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH TOM
Per la stupidita' non esiste cura..
I love the Beckham because there sincerely good people ❤️
As usual, Tom Bower analysis is spot on. Harry and Meghan continue to trip over their own tongues, aka foot in mouth.
Harry is NOT A YOUNG MAN!
We’re not here to coddle Tow and hairless😂😂😂
Quite right. That's not our job😑🇨🇦
😂😂😂😂
They probably would have been successful if they had just truly done their own thing and kept their mouth shut about the RF.
I totally agree. I never understood why they did that ridiculous Oprah interview. The silly unnecessary lies.. “we got married 3 days before that spectacle” Meghan was being vicious and smug and Harry was angry and letting her be his mouthpiece! It was sickening!!!
I don't think they have the imagination to do so. From everything I have seen it's just all copying what has made others successful
Not smart enough to keep their mouths shut!!
@@mimix2269 Said to such an extent that the Archbishop had to tell the press it was Not true ! Beyond understanding, that someone would tell a lie that could be disproved So Very easily !
Couldn't be true as in UK you need 2 witnesses 🤷🤷🤷
@@northernlady212 I think Meghan is a lifelong pathological liar, she can’t help it. Both Harry and Meghan are disordered! Sad really isn’t it?
Victoria Beckham has dealt with a similar person in the girl group: remember Geri broke up the group cos she thought she was better off.
OK all remember how some folks were saying signatures were getting removed from the petition? I went to check, signed up like a new person with the same info I gave last time, and it signed me up! I would urge everyone to check their signatures on the petition.
Plus your supposed to get an email that you have to respond to
@@marciacoe4610 I believe I did but thanks for pointing that out
@@KepiGal My reply email didn’t ask me for my signature. I’m going back to sign the petition.
@@cindeefoley3870 I think it is closed now . .
@@cindeefoley3870 Good thing I said something! I went back and looked and the email had a "confirm" button which I clicked but obviously didn't go through.
She's not clever or smart enough, her husband was duped!!!!!
And it was easy for her to do as the boy/man child was smart enough to see what was happening.
Does anyone know H IQ? Does H know his own IQ?
@@NormalindaGonzalez-rz1dq I'm not sure he could even spell IQ.
Yes some confuse being cunning with intelligence. Skank's definitely cunTing... oops typo. 😂
Gonna say the British Royal Family has not been fractured...but it has been Pruned.
Harry feeling sorry for himself is the guiding light of his life... he needs the whole world to validate this.
They are neither stupid nor victims. They know exactly what they are doing; someone or some group is advising them; they use people for strategic moves; they manipulate the press and media to their advantage; and they manage to grift and whinge their way to their benefit.
These are not the hallmarks of anyone who is stupid or a victim. They have a plan. They have a goal. They don't just go with the flow.
I do not think they plan long term with any great intelligence.
Plan doesn’t seem to be working. They are reviled. The are smoke and mirrors.
But it is a dud plan and stupid goal.
Sorry but I stand by describing H as not very bright. For example, he was asked in court what evidence he had regarding an issue with the British Press and he responded by saying he just had 'a feeling' that it was true. I'm pretty sure most of us know that having a feeling about something isn't valid evidence in court.
They are working with groups that want to shut down free speech. It’s already started in social media.
Bower puts excellent points over so well! I'd say the Beckhams are INFINITELY more worthy than the Markles and Kardashians, though!! They work hard at business. As for Harry and Meghan, they are an absolute disgrace. Grifters, as the Spotify exec pointed out. And, worse IMHO!
The Beckhams have been Markled
Appears as though the Markels Markeled themselves
I doubt highly they give them one second of a thought!!
Her name is Catherine
Kate should have used her real name with the public. Her fault for using Kate in the first place.
@@nonnayourbsns1001 Catherine, Princess of Wales!!!!
Victoria Beckham has nothing to be jealous of.
MeMe. Cannot fracture this historical institute ...also her saying that David Beckham only wanted promo pic with Hazben is bonkers... David Beckham is his own man and we love to see him
Kinsey is so classy.
😂classless?
Was she classy when she jumped on the bandwagon haranguing Princess Catherine a few months ago? Did she ever apologize for that? I never saw it if she did.
I don't think they were friends, friendly perhaps, acquainted. They didn't knew each other that long to be described as friends.
Love love Tom Bower ❤❤❤❤
The Beckhams have worked hard and have had so much success based on family, sports, music, clothing - their brands are solid ---- those two work at and stick at nothing. Kinsey you might want to read the old tell all review of this book by The Guardian.
I love the Beckham no matter what their family is everything to them. Also thank you Kinsey for say Catherine Princess of Wales.
Oh my, Look at those 2 couples... the Spare's wife looks at her husband with FAKE eyes,and a Deceiving smirk. Just a show and all fake. Look at the Beckham's, very natural, very content, and real. They are transparent and honest. Which is a trade mark the Harkles could never aquire. IN MY MOST HUMBLE OPINION.
@@rosenetgonzales8942 Even H is being grifted by his own wife!!!!! I know it’s easy for everyone else to see but H actually loves his wife. A wife should look at her husband with loving eyes. M lets her mask slip all the time with H, he just seems to never see her slipped mask. I don’t know if he sees her or not?????
Tom why not work with megs dad to write a book. When he passes we all know meg is going to claim he was inappropriate with her. Getting his side out could help with his retirement and his other kids could use some help.
100% agreed with this. 💯💯💯
Tom should get Meg's dad side of the story while he's still alive. Guaranteed Meg is going to claim her dad SA her when she was young. We'll all know it's a lie but she's the type to claim it happens. She has no shame and no morals.
@@ceciliaM17256 I agree that Tom should really talk to M’s Dad & explain to him what she will do when he passes away. Also Tom needs to remind Thomas Sr. that this will help his retirement all except M as she is married to a Prince who pretends he doesn’t have any money, (this narrative of H’s needs to stop as his Mom & Great Grandmother left him money in their wills).
I don’t think David Beckham would need his PR team to make his presence known in a queue after 2 hours. 2 minutes would be enough for those in the queue passing the news around and Mr Beckham would have had no control over that. The Beckham’s don’t need publicity.
Exactly!!!
And arrogance.
I feel so let down by Harry coming from UK 🇬🇧
Megan is an over actor, i saw suits rubbish, they made their bed and they have to lie in it.
I laughed so much when an American journalist said they didn't botherdtocome when M called the press😂😂😂😂🎉🎉
I just love Tom Bower and his quick wit!
Love Tom
Bravo Sweet Kinsey! Love Tom Bower! What a Gent! A regular ole British Basset Hound! XX from CA USA!
Next stop Amazon to order his book..
Jen (Real Housewives Recaps channel) did a brilliant series of videos reviewing Revenge! Highly recommend!!!
SCATHING observations by the brilliant Tom Bower. Tom, I read Revenge and loved it, will read this new one soon
I loved the Beckham’s Netflix series! I didn’t know much about them except that David was a hottie, but their story had me hooked right away. They are interesting and down to earth. You can tell they truly live and respect each other.
I couldn’t finish the first episode of the Harry and Megan show.
He doesn’t know what to do except to be royal when he was looked after by the palace. As someone commented before he’d never had to pay a bill prior to leaving the royal family at least Megan had to graft and understands that you have to make money or you end up on the streets.
Meghan hates women.
She only tolerates women who have something she wants.
Once she gets it from them, she ditches them.
David came from rather humble beginnings and he hasn’t forgotten that.
David also keeps Victoria honest, calling her out when she tries to create a different narrative of her early life. Victoria has always maintained a sort of aloof, untouchable attitude. David makes her more relatable.
Meghan pretends that she didn’t grow up with all the advantages that her father gave her.
She tells easily provable lies and will never admit when she is wrong.
Everything is the fault of others, she takes no responsibility for her own actions.
Neither does Harry.
Looking forward to it! Two of my favorites 😍--
The Beckhams really bore me. But it was interesting her hear Bower on the breakdown of their relationship with the Sussex duo. It's plain to see that MM wants to be the star of the show at all times, despite the fact that she was never a star in her own right. She couldn't even contain her jealousy and underhanded antics to maintain a friendship with the Beckhams.
Basically Princess Diana died because she was not wearing a seat belt. Sad to say. I really liked her and loved seeing her with her two boys. She was a great mom!!
Great interview!
And Megain knew that Hazno didn’t have much up there ( as in brains 🧠).
She needed Hazno to be stupid and easily manipulated, that’s how she ensnared him.
At least David did not betray the RF.
I love it! The great Tom Bower calling Harry a tool😂😂😂
His purpose in life should be the honorable man his children need as an example..
The Beckhams both had great success in their chosen fields, showcasing skill and talent. This is not just about PR - this talk about “brands” is so shallow.
Not sure about his view on the Beckhams but maybe I have been influenced by MSM? Need to read his book.
Tom Bower of all people should know that Catherine Princess of Wales' name is NOT Kate or Princess Kate as he calls her. Please use her correct name, it's not that hard.
Kate suits her.
Outsmarted.......by david beckham😂😂😂
One thing I've learned in life. A leopard does not change their spots. That being said I think we are now seeing the real Harry. I believe that big smile and everything he did to win the love of his abandoned country was always put on from the beginning. Or maybe having fun is all he's capable of. But I think being this jerk is the jerk he's always been we're just now seeing the real Harry
He was, or became, good at meeting different people and talking to them. He gave every appearance of being interested. There's videos showing that.
If it was an act, it was Extremely well done!
With a wife capable of the same and a home where he could do whatever it is he enjoys - he could still be Prince Harry, well thought of by the public. 🤷
I thought princess Catherine is the princess of Wales, why is Tom Bowers saying that she is the duchess of Cambridge
Probably because Catherine was Duchess of Cambridge longer than she has been Princess of Wales.
Honest mistake. I still hear King Charles III being called Prince Charles on occasion, lol.
@@jrg4313 A few days ago, I referred to him as "King Prince Charles".
@@jrg4313 I just did that yesterday when I was talking with my husband. Then I had to correct myself. I have been a Monarchist since I was a young girl & I am proud to say this too.
Great interview, Kinsey. 💖
She’s only with him because he is a prince….wouldnt look twice at him otherwise…he’s not exactly a looker!!!
Their own stupidity