Unfortunatley, there is nothing in the Constitution to specifically prevent such overly broad interpretations of the executive power of the pardon. But there should be.
Thanks Matt...at last someone else willing to state the obvious. You said exactly what I've been posting everywhere I can, only you summed it up in one simple and concise sentence. (unlike my long-winded futile attempts!)
They already made the determination that he was too old and senile to be investigated (related to the classified document situation I believe), so this is a fair point for sure.
if this wasnt what the 25th is for, not sure what is. weve been talking about how badly 84-88 went for decades and even with that hindsight, here we are. smh
But he didn't even say "I'm a dad who loves my son" he tries to gaslight again and says "this prosecution was political and wrong in and of itself and he should never have been charged" all lies.
I would do an emergency search and seizure on the government right now cuz you know that they are shredding documents as fast as possible at this point
Preemptive pardons are definitely problematic. What’s to prevent an administration of giving the green light to its minions to break any law to meet its objectives knowing a presidential pardon will ultimately be forthcoming to protect them…
I have a question: Does a presidential pardon just remove the ability to investigate all the potential crimes these people are pardoned for? Why can't we investigate them anyway? I would think there is still value in finding out the truth so we can see what went wrong and better protect ourselves from those things in the future
I don't think a court would take a case where there it was legally impossible to convict, but you could probably have a senate committee investigate and publish a report, it would be all words no action obviously, but maybe better than nothing.
It's not true that the Hunter pardon cuts off further investigation. It probably makes it easier to investigate, actually. Hunter can still be called on to testify and held in contempt if he refuses, and he wouldn't be able to plead the fifth in response to questions. And if he's found to be lying, he can be prosecuted for perjury. He can't be charged with his crimes, but others can be exposed.
Investigation & answers are what matter now. What did they do? Have they hurt our national interests vs China or other adversaries? How do we prevent Biden- esque corruptocrats from committing these crimes in the future?
The pardon for crimes that people have not been charged with or convicted of are simply here's your get out of jail free card for crimes we both know you committed. So just as guilty with no legal consequences.
9:43 yes I agree that if reporting journalists report things wrongly and propagandize these things if they want to stay employed or if their employer wants to stay running then they need to come out on air on Prime Time and admit all of the wrong reporting they have done in the last 4 years. And even go as far as to say that they were coerced by the government to do these things
The so called viewers didn't like it when there were strongly expressed differences of opinion and manifestly said so The producers of the show LISTENED to these snowflakes and this is what you get... TRY TO PLEASE EVERYONE YOU END UP PLEASING NO ONE
Robby & Niall already had a segment on this subject with lively debate. Please find it & watch it. I got the feeling, in this segment with Matt Taibi, that a producer (in their ears) told Robby to wrap it up. I guarantee Niall was prepared to give his perspective 👍
Pardoning people who have yet to be convicted of a a crime, is an admission of guilt, which they all are. A guilty President, pardoning quilty people. Thats how all 3rd world countries operate and thats where we are at this time
I can see a place for pardons but i propose that an individual can only earn a pardon for conduct the pardonee admits to committing. The same way a defendant is required to allacute as part of a plea bargain.
My understanding is that the pardon ELIMINATES hunter's potential claim of 'the 5th' against self incrimination. This means that he MUST answer questions if asked by Congress. Such answers could very easily incriminate others AND may expose bidens to STATE legal jeopardy which this pardon does NOT absolve.
I feel like it’s reasonable to say that a pardon needs to be associated with a crime or at minimum an alleged crime. Not like an alleged crime from some law-enforcement agency
I admire Robbie for his honesty and free speach approach, I suppose he has a leftish co host for balance reasons. Maybe the View could adopt that approach. Ooh, look, I have seen a Unicorn, honest!!!
A presidential power to grant pardons is a must. However it should be reserved for political victims. Those who were charged and convicted for the purpose preventing a political opponent from being elected. That is the case with people who were Trump supporters of high profile and influence. Some other cases should also be allowed to receive pardons. Wrongful convictions for example. It might be helpful to amend the pardon power of the president to put in place pending pardons. In other words the pardon couldn't be implemented until after an investigation was made into the nature of the alleged crime/s. And only in cases of certain crimes such as possible treason or crimes against humanity. Election interference could be considered a high crime, in my opinion and a pending pardon in some cases. I believe we've seen possible acts of treason and crimes against humanity. Of course these are just my thoughts. I don't know how they would be done. Might be opening up a can of worms.
should just prosecute anyway..be fun to see what an official 'get out of jail card' defense looks like and then let a supreme court judge decide if inside/outside scope of the blanket.
What in the world has gone wrong with the audio on this show? It started a while back and I keep hoping it will be corrected but it hasn’t. Please Mr/Ms producer… fix this.
President Biden should pardon as many as he can, presidents can pardon whomever they chose look at Trump he will pardon thousands of real criminals. GO JOE, PARDON AWAY, PARDON AWAY, YOU ARE AWESOME
I am ok with pardoning for convicted crimes but you cannot be able to pardon crimes that haven’t been investigated nor brought to trial
Unfortunatley, there is nothing in the Constitution to specifically prevent such overly broad interpretations of the executive power of the pardon. But there should be.
@ one could hope things will change but reality is more nihilistic
Thanks Matt...at last someone else willing to state the obvious. You said exactly
what I've been posting everywhere I can, only you summed it up in one
simple and concise sentence. (unlike my long-winded futile attempts!)
@@tbthomas5117 glad to hear someone else has a similar view!
we did for nixon, which is why this is technically a thing. thatwasalsogross.
Nothing but respect for Matt Taibbi.
Great take by Matt, always appreciate his view and the logic it's based on.
They need to question his mental state. Should a man who is not completely in control of his faculties be allowed to make these kinds of decisions?
Thats a valid point.
They already made the determination that he was too old and senile to be investigated (related to the classified document situation I believe), so this is a fair point for sure.
@@goosey235 😂true that
@@goosey235😮
if this wasnt what the 25th is for, not sure what is. weve been talking about how badly 84-88 went for decades and even with that hindsight, here we are. smh
I always like hearing from the level headed Matt Taibbi.
But he didn't even say "I'm a dad who loves my son" he tries to gaslight again and says "this prosecution was political and wrong in and of itself and he should never have been charged" all lies.
Even though Hunter plead guilty…
IF we all are EQUAL under the law🙄 There should be NO PARDONS FOR GOVERNMENT WORKERS 😡
Almost as if they have absolutely no faith in the justice system and fear lawfare.
Wierd isn't it... why on earth would they fear lawfare?
I would do an emergency search and seizure on the government right now cuz you know that they are shredding documents as fast as possible at this point
Preemptive pardons are definitely problematic. What’s to prevent an administration of giving the green light to its minions to break any law to meet its objectives knowing a presidential pardon will ultimately be forthcoming to protect them…
I have a question:
Does a presidential pardon just remove the ability to investigate all the potential crimes these people are pardoned for? Why can't we investigate them anyway? I would think there is still value in finding out the truth so we can see what went wrong and better protect ourselves from those things in the future
But why waste taxpayers money.
I don't think a court would take a case where there it was legally impossible to convict, but you could probably have a senate committee investigate and publish a report, it would be all words no action obviously, but maybe better than nothing.
states can investigate state crimes. o federal option, though.
@@zachfreedom644Obviously that isn’t a concern or we wouldn’t have see many of these trials.
@silentnot4812 I'm not against the investigation but I'm more interested in the the end goal.
He better not pardon Faucci
Faucci deserves to pay
Fauci deserves the same as that CEO
Far too humane for Fauci.
Great to see matt on your show
Trump never went after anyone last time he was president and I'd be willing to bet he does the same thing. He moves forward.
"TrUmP iS DesTroYiNg OuR DeMocRaTiC NoRmS."
Lol, yeah. Dunno how much longer the DNC can cling to that narrative. 😄
🤡🌍
They have no shame
"Trump is a threat to our bureaucracy " Oh and our summer homes, the kids braces and college funds.
It's not true that the Hunter pardon cuts off further investigation. It probably makes it easier to investigate, actually. Hunter can still be called on to testify and held in contempt if he refuses, and he wouldn't be able to plead the fifth in response to questions. And if he's found to be lying, he can be prosecuted for perjury. He can't be charged with his crimes, but others can be exposed.
Investigation & answers are what matter now. What did they do? Have they hurt our national interests vs China or other adversaries? How do we prevent Biden- esque corruptocrats from committing these crimes in the future?
The pardon for crimes that people have not been charged with or convicted of are simply here's your get out of jail free card for crimes we both know you committed. So just as guilty with no legal consequences.
I read somewhere, can’t remember the source. Biden plans to pardon, The Joker, Hannibal Lecter, Norman Bates, Darth Vader and Kermit the frog. 😂
Preemptive pardons. Sure. Nothing to see here folks.
ask sound team to take a look at why studio sounds like you are in a box, while Matt sounds better on remote. otherwise, great story.
Brandon is only trying to protect himself.
9:43 yes I agree that if reporting journalists report things wrongly and propagandize these things if they want to stay employed or if their employer wants to stay running then they need to come out on air on Prime Time and admit all of the wrong reporting they have done in the last 4 years. And even go as far as to say that they were coerced by the government to do these things
Rising has become so moderate, no lively debate, everyone more or less has the same views. The trending headlines or stories are also covered late now
The so called viewers didn't like it when there were strongly expressed differences of opinion and manifestly said so
The producers of the show LISTENED to these snowflakes and this is what you get...
TRY TO PLEASE EVERYONE YOU END UP PLEASING NO ONE
@roccocupido5082 social media people trend towards echo chambers that's why
That’s how news is supposed to be.
Robby & Niall already had a segment on this subject with lively debate. Please find it & watch it. I got the feeling, in this segment with Matt Taibi, that a producer (in their ears) told Robby to wrap it up. I guarantee Niall was prepared to give his perspective 👍
Pardoning people who have yet to be convicted of a a crime, is an admission of guilt, which they all are. A guilty President, pardoning quilty people. Thats how all 3rd world countries operate and thats where we are at this time
Pardons should always require a conviction.
Without a conviction, wth is there to pardon????
Great seeing Matt T on your show.
Just because there is a pardon doesn't mean that there can be no investigation.
Pre-emptive pardons shouldn't be allowed. Only completed convictions should be considered. I'm not even sure pre-emptive pardons are legal.
I can see a place for pardons but i propose that an individual can only earn a pardon for conduct the pardonee admits to committing. The same way a defendant is required to allacute as part of a plea bargain.
I think the protecting an adult "child" from consequences isn't what every parent would do.
hey lets just do an Oprah gift show now. A pardon for you, a pardon for you, oh you want one, okay one for you, everybody gets a pardon.
PREEMPTIVE pardons seem so antithetical to the intent…
Instead they’re using as the ultimate get out of jail free card 🙄
My understanding is that the pardon ELIMINATES hunter's potential claim of 'the 5th' against self incrimination. This means that he MUST answer questions if asked by Congress. Such answers could very easily incriminate others AND may expose bidens to STATE legal jeopardy which this pardon does NOT absolve.
No settling scores. If crimes were committed they need to be prosecuted that includes media
So just for the sake of argument, can he pardon anybody? Even a Jeffrey Dahmer? No strings attached?
I'll listen to this new guy's accent all day.
I feel like it’s reasonable to say that a pardon needs to be associated with a crime or at minimum an alleged crime. Not like an alleged crime from some law-enforcement agency
How can you prempt a pardon with no trial and conviction
Robbie drill down on your questions ,please.
Are presidential pardon only applicable to federal crimes and prisons?
I admire Robbie for his honesty and free speach approach, I suppose he has a leftish co host for balance reasons. Maybe the View could adopt that approach. Ooh, look, I have seen a Unicorn, honest!!!
A presidential power to grant pardons is a must. However it should be reserved for political victims. Those who were charged and convicted for the purpose preventing a political opponent from being elected. That is the case with people who were Trump supporters of high profile and influence. Some other cases should also be allowed to receive pardons. Wrongful convictions for example. It might be helpful to amend the pardon power of the president to put in place pending pardons. In other words the pardon couldn't be implemented until after an investigation was made into the nature of the alleged crime/s. And only in cases of certain crimes such as possible treason or crimes against humanity. Election interference could be considered a high crime, in my opinion and a pending pardon in some cases. I believe we've seen possible acts of treason and crimes against humanity. Of course these are just my thoughts. I don't know how they would be done. Might be opening up a can of worms.
should just prosecute anyway..be fun to see what an official 'get out of jail card' defense looks like and then let a supreme court judge decide if inside/outside scope of the blanket.
Better mics needed for studio. Existing audio system seems to act like a band-pass filter. No high or low frequencies.
Matt's talking about Tapper
A nialls why dont you talk about jordan Williams??? Or does he not fit your rhetoric??
Why…. Cheney?
What in the world has gone wrong with the audio on this show? It started a while back and I keep hoping it will be corrected but it hasn’t. Please Mr/Ms producer… fix this.
I can't take this guy seriously anymore. Basically said he looked the other way to get access to Elon. Lol
Luigi should be Trump's first preemptive pardon.
Wth, come on guys... Fix your audio
President Biden should pardon as many as he can, presidents can pardon whomever they chose look at Trump he will pardon thousands of real criminals. GO JOE, PARDON AWAY, PARDON AWAY, YOU ARE AWESOME