Staying Safe When Shots Are Fired
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2023
- We discuss the three most important things to consider if you find yourself in an active shooter situation. Planning ahead helps you to stay safe!
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“Don’t you dare fight fair!”
Oh Pam! I just love you!
Situational awareness classes are on line. Highly recommend. Put your phones away when shopping etc and pay attention to your surroundings.
yes! I use to go to grocery store and put my earbuds in to catch up on podcasts - I stopped doing that once I realized people on the same aisle as me were in argument and I couldn't even hear them
do you have any sit awareness websights to recommend
I worked in grocery store. There is usually a couple of exits in the back of the store. Most have a garage like door in the back for the trucks to back up to. If there's an emergency the back of the store is the way to go out.
Thanks for the info!
An excellent "weapon" to keep with you in an office or classroom is a can of wasp spray... It shoots a narrow, targeted spray a very long distance. (Maybe 10-15 feet? Enough to reach wasp nests up in the eaves of a house.) It might disable an aggressor from a fairly safe distance. Just be sure to aim for the head/face...
That's why I have it. I even keep it in my car.
Great idea.
Even 6 plus decades ago, my father was very safety minded. I’m sure he never imagined active shooters though. I remember even as a very young child whenever we’d go somewhere and my father would show me the “the biggest sign or biggest tree” in the parking area and once inside he would have me look for the exit signs and tell me that if something bad happened, I should get out fast and go to the “biggest sign”. When we spent the night in a hotel, he got the staff to open the emergency exit so he could show me how to get out. Because he was so calm and matter-of-fact about it, it was never scary. To this day, I always know where the exits are.
That was excellent training your father gave you. My Dad did similar training of us growing up as well. So grateful!
@@RoseRedHomestead @JustBethTyring
That is an amazing story and skill you have. I went to a university in Berkeley and my housemate’s gf was shot in the face at an ATM. I was 19 - now 48. I’m still plagued w/ the memory of the melt-down and sobbing. I think that my employer doesn’t understand the vulnerability. It’s equally unfortunate that I should have to carry a 9mm: Employer : Please lock the flipping door. I’m working for idiots.
@JustBethTrying Sounds like a great Dad :-)!
You were blessed- great Dad!
As an instructor in this field, I would like to say that you did a wonderful job of boiling the subject matter down for a broad audience. Kudos.
thank you so much. That means a lot.
Feeling for those that are hearing & visually impaired... Stay safe....
For Costco members, there are several exits all around the buildings. Any door along the walls are exit doors. Keep your hands up and open when exiting. I worked at Costco for several years.
Thanks for the info!
Thank you for this. As I was watching it, I got a call from my daughter, and paused the video. They had a shooting threat written on their suggestion board at the library last night that there would be a shooting today at her work -- a county public library where she is second in charge. She told me of all the precautions they were going through and the officers on site and she did say -- Run, Hide, Fight as part of the official training. Thank you for this. It can happen even in quiet small towns. Though it looked like a "teenage" prank, the security and safety of them all is so important. Thank you for getting the word out. Praying for my daughter and her team.
I studied martial arts for many years. One thing I noticed regarding new students is they had to learn to get over being nice. From childhood we are taught to be polite. But in a life and death situation all rules are gone. My favorite comment to students, "If you aren't cheating, you aren't trying"
Thanks for your comment!
I am a recently retired high school teacher. In one of my safety training sessions, I had to practice how to use a tourniquet kit, how to pack large wounds to prevent bleeding out and to be aware of what kind of discomfort these actions would cause the victim so we wouldn’t be hesitant and unnecessarily gentle with a life/death injury. Very sobering. Very surreal. I was also in a science classroom and our plan was to take students into a chemical storeroom and lock ourselves in. I always told people that I wouldn’t hesitate to throw acid on the shooter if he was able to breach the storeroom. That shocked many, and several even scoffed that I would even consider this action and tell me I shouldn’t do it, but I always told them I would not hesitate to use whatever means at hand to debilitate a shooter and protect my students and myself. Fortunately, I never had to do more than drills. I could never have dreamed when I began teaching in 1978 that I’d ever have to have training on such matters.
I support your plan 100% but grateful you never had to do it. I started teaching in 1956--6th grade--and like you, never dreamed I would be involved in training and teaching about active shooter situations.
When I was in college in my 20's I signed up for a free self-defense class. At the third class the instructor told us that we were going to get into the "meat and potatoes "part of self defense. He said that if we were not prepared to kill our attacker that we didn't need to be there. I, along with most of the class, left. Given the state of things these days, I feel differently and would stay. I think that shows the difference that almost 50 years of living did.
My son's all 6 wear United States military uniforms full time.
I would do what I had to do to protect myself and anyone else.
If you're coming after me, you had better be ready I will fight till last breath
keep a 14 ft can of Raid so you can spray the perps eyes. I think they even make 20 ft now.
Thank you for taking care of our children.
Dry chemical "ABC" fire extinguishers make good defense tools. I had occasion to use one against an arsonist. He looked like Casper the Ghost when I was done with him.
The general advice when facing an assailant near to you is, "Run from a knife, and rush a gun". You can't outrun a bullet. Also, active shooters need to reload. There have been cases where students (in gun-free zones) cower behind desks while the shooter took several seconds to reload and then continued to shoot more victims.
If you rush a shooter you may be shot, but only once instead of several times. You may die, but at least you can get a death grip on the shooter so other people can take him down.
We all gotta die sometime, and an honorable death in combat, resisting evil and saving the innocent, is not a bad way to go.
Great advice!
In college, a police officer told us, when getting to your destination, instead of putting your keys in your pocket or purse, put them in your fist with the keys sticking out between your fingers. If grabbed or attacked, those keys become a weapon that can pierce skin, eyes shred a face etc.
I have heard that as well, but had forgotten. Thanks for the reminder!
We were taught this by police when I worked at a bank. It was in a city and most women had to walk a few blocks to parking
i often do that when walking to the car after going to the store or after work.
@@RoseRedHomestead you're welcome.
I taught my daughters the same thing.
Wow. Great information. A devoted educator still teaching people very valuable skills.
My son is a Critical Care Paramedic, he was telling me they have classes on STOP THE BLEED. I didn't know this. I can see this was not an easy topic for you to cover. Bless you!
Thank you. It is very disturbing to me that we have to deal with topics like this. But it is necessary.
My heart aches what educators and students have to do to stay safe. I’ll be honest, this anxiety has caused me to stay home…..far more than I should.
Yes, you are right. Now these days, I don't go to parks, board walks, movie theaters, anywhere there are large crowds, etc. It is a good thing I love my home.
I pray for you! Be strong and stay safe🙏♥️❤
Sue, you're smart! Right now, it's THE best thing to do. Make your own little paradise
I would go months without hearing a siren, now it's weekly.
@@eyeYQ2 right. My age 73 may have something to do with it too. Stay safe.
@@suehorn4182 Thank you! You too, God bless you.
This brought back memories of the brave individuals on United Airlines Flight 93 who fought back and forced the terrorists to crash the plane in a Pennsylvania field, preventing them from reaching their target on 9/11.
Yes, I think of those brave people as well. True heroism.
Flashback... ..a very tragic moment... "God Bless America" , praying that another tradegy like that will never occur again...Prayers for the survivors....and the family that's left behind...
And this reminds me that congress passed law that prevented US citizens from suing the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The law expired way passed the Bush administration. There were sixteen Saudi nationals directly involved, more than from any other country. The only effective leadership order given for the good of the nation was given by Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta who ordered the nation’s first aerial stand down. The attacks could have been much more widespread.
I learned years ago when training to be an EMT that the brain does not know the difference between "What If", and "Really Is", that is why running scenarios is a good learning tool, by the time you encounter a situation your brain already has a memory of how to deal with it.
You are absolutely correct! I earned my black belt, through competition, in judo when I was in my 20s. I taught judo, as well as self-defense, in dojo‘s, high schools, grammar schools, and churches when I was in my 20s and 30s. Awareness was the first and most important item I taught.
I’m in my 70s now and that teaching does not leave you. It becomes routine. A routine that may save your life. In a restaurant be sure to sit where you can see who is entering the restaurant, and remember it only takes a minute to look for the exit signs before you place your food order.
What still surprises me, are the many friends who know what I am doing when we go to lunch, and think it’s funny. If we are grouped together in a booth, believe me, they are the ones that are sitting next to the wall. If we are at a table, I choose to sit where I can see the front door.
Thank you for bringing this to people’s attention.
Loved your comment--especially about routines and I completely agree.
@@NRGY I LOVE Jack Reacher! ☺️👍
I did judo in college! My son in his high school! I took a class on personal safety which was taught by the judo coach , still remember those lessons to this day and it changed my life. Being prepared is empowering and helps manage anxiety and stress.
@@coleenschlichte677 ❤️👍
@@NRGY hahahahaha, I just finished a Jack Reacher novel (Worth Dying For) and you're absolutely correct :)
I work in an Orthopaedic ward as a auxiliary nurse this is on our minds these days.. Thanks Pam and Jim for this.. Lochness Scottish Highlands..
You are very welcome, Neil.
Do you have an Emergency Preparedness Director?
Is good to know that there’s people like me. I thought I was weird. When I go to a restaurant I always set facing a window, or the door just in case I see a gun man coming through the parking lot . I also check out the exits, in theaters, restaurants , church. And I carry a gun purse.
Good for you! Same here!
Very well done. In a motel/hotel, count the doorways you'd pass before an exit, after you've found the exit. 😉 On a plane, count the rows of seats to the emergency exit. Theater, auditorium, arena--do the same. Look for things to hide behind, keeping in mind the difference between cover and concealment. Concealment means you're out of sight. Cover means your hiding place can stop bullets.
Fight or flight--or freeze? Sometimes a person will be unable to move or think, usually momentarily (hopefully). Training and/or running through mental scenarios will help prepare one to act. Freeze may be a good response if you hear a rattlesnake--can give you time to find it--but is not an adequate response to an active shooter.
There are card games that can be played with your family to help prepare for different emergencies. The first and best thing they do is to open minds to possibilities. Brainstorming responses can be fun if any suggestion, no matter how silly-sounding, can be put on the table. Two things can make memories stick in a mind--fear and fun. Judicious use of both can be useful.
Again, a timely topic well covered. Thanks
you just made some excellent points yourself...
@@donnadayle3762 TYVM
I worked at hospital and part of the training we were expected to attend training in case of bomb threat, tornado, active shooter. It was mandatory.
I have heard gunshots close to my house. It's scary. It scares my cats. I had to turn all my lights out. Great information.
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Which brings us to another point; Weever you hear gunshots at night out side your house, do NOT turn on the lights, you will likely silhouette yourself. Leave the lights FF while you scan for intruders, unless you have a reason to turn them on.
Born in 1980. In kindergarten in 1985, we had an air raid siren go off and our teachers herded us to the bomb shelter beneathe our very small private school. They were our parents when these emergencies occurred. We spent the entire day there in the bomb shelter because Russian planes flew to near to our city. My teachers could not get the all clear so we stayed there very very late. It wasn't until parents appeared and helped find information on the planes before we were allowed to leave. The bomb shelter was 3 stories under ground. Below the underground kitchen and below the underground classrooms. We were taught on the first floor normally. There was a second and third floor above the first ground level floor. In total there were 6 floors in our school with half of it buried. You just reminded me of my teacher way back then. Such a loving soul she was...
Thanks for talking about this. I strive to be always aware of my surroundings, but it's amazing to me how many folks do not. Being vigilant should go double for those with children, because it would not be possible to abandon them to run faster in those situations. Gotta keep off your cell phones in public in order to be alert! Just like defensive driving. 🙂
I'm thankful that my grandson in Utah has armed teachers.
You are blessed!!
This is crazy. Teachers should be teaching NOT shooting 😢
@@susanoconnor5931 ALL adults who work with children must be prepared to be protectors. Would you use a bank whose guards were unarmed? Our children are far more precious than money, yet we put them in situations where no one is prepared to protect them from the evil that people do.
Take care and God Bless.
Do y’all not conceal carry?
@@susanoconnor5931it’s their students life and theirs. Not fighting means more deaths. What would you choose?
Not all threats to schools and universities are shooting related. I would prefer they use ACTIVE THREATS instead. I teach Active Shooter classes to Educators and school districts. I also teach the public what to do when exposed to a threat. Plan for an exit strategy. Know where exits are and plan to use them.
Honestly, if you can leave the area...LEAVE. If you can't, look for cover. Cover is something very solid that will prevent a bullet from penetrating. Sheet rock is not cover. If you have to fight, let's hope you don't, fight dirty and do not stop.
Totally agree.
Rose, love your level of safety and information. You're a treasure 😊. Thank you
Her name is Pam.
Thank you, I know her name. That was contributing to RoseRed program..how great the information and the way Pam represents it to us..
I just completed our annual training at work which gave the same info, Sad that we have to worry about this every time we go anywhere. Stay prepared!
I'M USUALLY PREPARED GOING INTO & OUT OF STORES (EVEN IN DAYTIME) WITH MY KEYS BETWEEN MY FINGERS AS A WEAPON...ALSO, AS I OPEN MY DOOR I PUSH THE LOCK BUTTON AS I'M GETTING IN MY CAR...BEEN DOING THIS SINCE THE 80s...THANX SO MUCH FOR YOUR VIDEO!!!!!!!💟
Glad you brought this up. Most people have never thought about these things. Being aware could save one’s life.
Because of where I work it’s required we do the active shooter training every year. I’m very grateful that I have had this training. You just never know when something could happen.
I agree!
A cast iron skillet makes a good weapon if someone is trying to break in, especially through a window. Been there. Done that.
Excellent info Pam! Thank you! i didn't think about the exit by the produce section in the grocery store. GREAT. INFO!❤❤
I’ve been in a traumatic situation but with knives, been held hostage. There is no reason why a teacher shouldn’t be able to carry. Take the appropriate class and if one is ok with this responsibility then so be it. Practice. We have learned that some LEO’s aren’t even reliable to help us save our children. If a teacher was carrying many lives would be saved and the idiot would be eliminated ASAP! As a woman I carry all the time. I was taught as a young adult to try to pay attention to detail, persons, places and things so I would not be a victim a second time! Support our 2A, a defenseless persons will always be the target.
I live in a suburb that borders Detroit. Over the past 10 years or so, we have become like an annex of Detroit. A city that was beautiful and very safe in the 80's when we moved here, has become crime ridden with every crime you can imagine. I sleep with my gun right next to me. We've had an escaped convict run through our backyard running from the police. Shootings are very frequent. I never thought I would have to live in a place like this. But it happened and we are too old and not financially able to move away from here. We have to be prepared at all times for drive by shootings, home invasions and break in and thefts of our cars. It doesn't end.
There has got to be a way to get out of that area or state. Call your local salvation army and see if they have resources to help you move.
@debrariversideca There is, you just have to be willing to make sacrifices and deal with consequences. Where there's a will, there's a way.
We left Killwaukee with 2 suitcases and some Greyhound tickets. We also had school-aged children while homeless during that time, thanks to cancer. By the grace of God, the skin of our teeth, and good old-fashioned grit, we got back on our feet. We homeschool now (should've from the start but better late than never) and are moving again in a couple months...this time with more than a couple suitcases and no bus needed.
Edit: left in 2018 btw and it's gotten so much worse
I'll bet you are getting closer to the Lord praying for your safety.
Aren't we so lucky to live in Michigan?🙃
@eyeYQ2 all of Michigan is not like that. The bigger cities, yes. I feel (for the most part) safe in my area. That being said, I have the proper "tools" to defend myself and a license to carry them wherever I go. My head is on a swivel and aware of my surroundings despite being in a more safe area. Bad guys have transportation too so you never know. I have personally been in an active shooter situation many years ago in San Francisco. I will never forget that night.
Thank you miss rose 🌹
Everything you talk about rings true and brings back the memories of what we encountered in 2017 during the FLL airport shooting. We ran, and hid, thankfully didn't have to fight. The swat team came and got us from the break room. Was a crazy day i'll never forget but love that you are reminding people of this and love your channel.
Pam thank you for yet another great job of imparting important information- and on an incredibly disheartening subject! In my younger days, I had a licensed in-home day care where I ran fire drills for pre-k kids in my care. I couldn't imagine we'd ever need to drill for an active shooter, and I'm heartbroken that now that's our world. Living 5 miles < 5 miles from the mass shooting at Tops Supermarket in Buffalo, NY, I can tell you that what was heard over and over on local news were the names and short summations of the lives of the victims, but not the useful information you've shared regarding what to do to hopefully survive and protect others in an active shooter event. Instead of becoming an important teachable moment, what transpired got sensationalized into the focal point for donations of money, diapers, food, and clothing for the community as a whole, and a way for politicians to be seen on camera as sympathetically advocating for change to benefit the community as a whole. But conveying the information you shared here today was somehow not included. It needed to be and still does. Bless you for all you do and teach, Pam. I don't know if you can truly realize just how valuable you have become to those of us who view your videos, Pam. "Thank you" seems so small!
You should join Community Emergency Response Team (CERT). They offer governmental level courses taught at the local level and they will teach you so much more. Great resource.
One great course is Incident Command Structure (ICS), which is very insightful. ICS-100 can be taken for free online. It takes about an hour to complete. But make sure you are taking the version for your country (Canada and the USA look very similar).
@@sheilameagher3675... maybe children could do it with their parents if its age appropriate...
Situational awareness is key. Some people think it’s paranoid but whenever I go places I let my family have fun but I’m always just scanning around looking for threats 😂
My sister is a receiver in a grocery store. There is not only an exit in the back but a lot of places to hide. Thanks for the heads up training, Pam and Jim! It's definitely good playing out scenarios to prepare so you won't freeze when it comes time to save lives. May God bless and keep you!
Our local Safeway had an active shooter in the last year, Bend, OR. The shooter, prior employee, killed his first person while entering the store. He then made it to the produce department and was confronted by the hero who attempted to use his produce knife. Hero was killed and shooter took his own life. We still have security guards when we enter this store. Your advice is spot on. We always need to be aware and proactive.
What a sad story, but thank you for sharing. The threat is real.
In 2015 our community college Umpqua community college here in roseburg oregon had a student who trapped the students and teacher in the class room shot and killed 9 people at the college. It was so shocking that some thing like this happened in our little community. The shooter took his own life before the police could get to him. This will never be forgotten.
My entire life I look for exit and hiding spots no matter where I am, and I never ever sit with my back to an entry door. I missed our biggest mass shooting in Australia by about an hour, we were almost at port Arthur. To this day I get chills over that. All I know is I won’t be playing fair if I get caught up in this. But I still feel I’d choose hide as my first option.
Active Shooter and Stop the Bleed are two classes that are worth your time. They are usually free, conducted by local law enforcement. Highly recommend!!
My mom and I just had a conversation about this. Her first day of votech as a young woman in 1965 ended in disaster when a man walked onto campus with a gun and opened fire. He killed an 18 year old that had made a joke earlier that day about how much coffee the man drank without contributing to the coffee kitty. He also injured half a dozen more students. We live in a small town where this would be unthinkable today, let alone 60 years ago! I'm going to add active shooter training to our next employee safety day for the electric cooperative where I work.
Thank you for sharing this terrible story. We can all learn from it.
It is so sad that you have to say all of this. ❤
Yes,things are a lot different than hiding under your schoolroom desk when "the big one " hit.
Thanks for the valuable information. I was a professor in Detroit at the College for Creative Studies. We were located in the downtown corridor of Detroit and protecting the buildings from active shooters was taken seriously. We had a lockdown protocol and all doors to classrooms were solid steel or oak....and interior locks separate from the door handles. Though nothing transpired while I was teaching there, I was glad that a plan was in place. Your info is greatly appreciated.
That is awesome! None of the 3 universities where I have taught had classrooms like that. Thanks for your comment.
Wow that is awesome! Schools should use the steel doors as well and shelter in place.
Yes I can attest that the receiving dock/area is a good way to exit. I used to be a Feeding America volunteer for 10 years and went through the receiving dock weekly in all of the stores/grocery stores on a weekly basis. It's an excellent egress route.
Thank you for sharing this! Very important!
I used to live in a pretty rough neighborhood. The dumbest thing I've seen people do numerous times is to run out of the house to see who is shooting. I still don't understand the neighbors thinking on that.
Pam, Jim, I worked for over 20 years had a University Hospital in Detroit in a similar position to Pam’s. My office open directly into a long hallway, which was the only office that could see a clear line of sight from the elevator, and the staircase down the hallway. I was involved in an active shooter situation once. I kept a 4 foot heavy water pipe in my office. It was pretty effective.
Thanks for reminding us to always be aware of our surroundings and to identify available exits. You never cease to amaze me by all your valuable information. Whether it’s baking bread, water storage or active shooter safety - your channel is one of the best on You Tube. Thanks so much for your time, efforts and dedication for all the topics you cover. I hope you both know how much you are appreciated.
We teach kids to move to the cinder block wall and to be silent. I have 8 doors in my gym. We don’t really talk about run hide fight in elementary. We do mandatory safe schools training too. My co teacher and I had an additional plan to run The children to safety while one of us fights and protects if needed. Nothing like teaching a kindergartener to hide alone on a toilet in a bathroom. As a parent I have to teach my 12 year old what to do if we are at the store and separated. There r have been many shootings at stores near us in The greater Seattle area.
Oh my. Thank you for filling in those details--so important.
I am so sorry the greater Seattle area had become so filled with crime and homelessness. It was a wonderful place to visit.
I cried during this entire video. Why, Why, Why do we have to know this? Why do we have to train or even consider this? What has happened to us as a species? I understand 100 % what the need is to listen and learn this. What I do not understand is what happened? When, How, Why, did we join the lowest order of the animal world? Did I do this? Did you? Did he? Did she? Did they? 💔
I understand your feelings completely. As a teacher first of young children and then university students, I am frequently so saddened by man's inhumanity to man and it does bring tears to me as well. Thank you for your tender thoughts.
Even though it is a shocker to you now. Thank you to Rose bringing reality to life. Please continue educating yourself at least once a month from now on. It is a slow boil the United States as we knew it is going downhill and the world right behind it.
certain people got really greedy...like the nra and they bought off certain politicans. marsha blackburn gets the highest payoffs from the nra. people can go to a fact checker...i don't have a problem with hunters or anyone having a weapon but the AR is & should be only for the military and anyone buying a gun should have a license and a waiting period. that's not a radical idea.
USA have more guns than people. You win a prize, you win a gun! Almost anybody could possess a firearm. That's why. That's why they have to be prepared for the unthinkable every day. So sad.
It’s the devil and his plans.
I always wanted to live in the USA, no more, happy in Scotland
Active shooters are rare in the USA. You have as many violent threats in Scotland. The media over hypes this.
The thing about Scotland is that it just took one incident before they immediately enacted stronger gun controls. It is so political here in the USA that we are stuck in the mud with getting that kind of law passed.
@RoseRedHomestead It is people control. The tool does not matter. The IRA did far more harm without a single firearm. The UK has a high incidence of other violent crime. The difference? Government controlled media, the drastically smaller population, more secure borders, and vetting those who enter the country.
The US had few incidences with more lax laes (even had more access to firearms). What changed? Social media.
@@dillodefenseagree that the cause of increased mass shootings is not due to our failing to pass more gun control legislation. Mass shootings were unheard of when I was growing up in the 60-70s. If you went into the parking lot of the large high school I attended, it was not uncommon to see gun racks in the back of students’ trucks (I’d assume ammunition was nearby) since so many teens were hunters. NEVER was there any thought or concern that a student would bring the weapon into the school. Gun laws were on the books then, too. What has changed is the value system of American society, the shared sense of standards of right and wrong, the breakdown of the family, the loss of the church as a part of the life of most people, the rise of single parents, poverty, addiction, the devaluing of the lives of others, the glorification of violence in movies and television, and the list goes on and on. Gun control laws don’t address any of the root causes because the core is societal in nature. I’m definitely not against background checks that are more thorough or in examining current gun laws to see if they are adequate, but it seems quite naive to me when people suggest that additional gun laws are the solution to mass shootings. I’m not sure that’s what Pam is suggesting in her comment to which you are responding. However, I agree with you that neither the problem nor the solution is as simple as additional gun control.
@@dillodefense You think so ? I would suggest you look up the stats
Thank you Rose for sharing your education on safety regarding active shooters. I forget sometimes to keep my mind alert to everything around me while I am either shopping or just on a walk. We all need to be reminded from time to time. Like a refresher course. You are full of surprises on your education in a lot of subjects. Have a wonderful day, God bless you and your family.
Her name is Pam.
One of the saddest things was when my grandchildren explained to me that they have drills for active shooters. They all have to go sit down in a corner away from the door. The teacher locks the door and pulls the shade down. Thank God at least two of my grandchildren’s schools have armed police officers now. The 3rd grader’s school doesn’t.
i agree with that logic. hire security officers who have been trained. teachers should be teaching.
I avoid buildings where guns are not allowed
Same. Gun Free Zone signs are magnets for crazies!
That is wise whenever it is possible. Sometimes, you don't have a choice - but when a choice is available, I know which way I go. ;-)
Take care and God Bless.
We are with you all!
That's why there's so many school shootings !
Unless the have metal detectors, who's to know if someone has a concealed weapon?
Twenty-five years ago, I was in the back of a grocery store, just 1/2 block from my apartment. A man with a gun held up the front service desk for money. I hid in the back until the police came. I always am aware of my surroundings after having ridden the city bus routes for 6 years. Now that I am older and not as athletic, I realize I could be a target and always bring my husband and brother along when leaving the house. I'm always ready to scream and fight if necessary. One psychotic-looking man in Walmart looked at the three of us and said, "Wow! Three big people." He walked away and I realized we are tall enough to intimidate a small bit. Thank you for your suggestions. Good information.
Sad it has to be discussed; you did an excellent job.
Thank you Pam, I could tell from your voice how important and emotive this was for you. I have no doubt that it was a difficult video to make. It's a sad reflection of today's society that we have to consider this sort of scenario but we do and your video is something to remember and heed. Even in the UK, where guns aren't anywhere near as prevalent as the US and other countries, it can still happen and there are also extremist political and religious fanatics/'terrorist' attacks.
May you and everyone else walk in peace and safety.
Good job Pam,
For me I will rely on my Military skills. '68-'71 Vietnam. Only problem I will have is my brain know how and what to do but at 74 yrs old not sure my body would cooperate. Me personally I will not run, from my training I would charge the shooter. Even if he were to kill me I would have been able to buy the others time to get the hell out of dodge.
and because you were skilled you would know what to do. that's you...not people who own a gillion guns with no permit, license and no regulations who mostly shoot themselves or their kids supposedly accidentally. with guns there are no accidents. thank you for your service...i knew many people who were drafted for that war and many were never the same....
My partner would do the same. Also a Vietnam vet, same time as you.
I have my conceal carry. I carry my gun inside my waist band every time i go out. If its not on my body its in my vehicle. Ive been trained on how to use it. And i carry prepper spray also. And have had self defense also. I have to shop alone alot. More people need to at least learn self defense.
It’s always good to have a refresher. Since I retired, some of this has lost its urgency, which is not a good idea in today’s world. Thank you for the reminder!! ❤
You are very welcome.
About 5-6 posts up, a very inappropriate comment IMO, by @destitute8493. Suggestion for doing something illegal.@@RoseRedHomestead
Check with local police departments for active shooter classes, several towns offer them.
Our church had a deputy come and talk a couple of years ago. He said anyone who is able, throw things at the shooter, even a few men could throw a pew. If, you couldn't run or fight, than get on the ground.
I loved watching your channel over many years. Always appreciated your knowledge and sharing it with others. I grew up with guns and my husband used to have Federal Firearms License and sold guns and ammo as a side hustle. We always taught our son about gun safety. We had to teach the neighbors too. One thing that comes to mind was when our neighbors gave their boys toy guns for Christmas. I had to educate them and explain that we don't believe in toy guns because kids need to be taught to respect guns as a tool and not a toy. In our house all guns are to be treated as real. Never point a gun at anybody that you don't intend to kill. You never shoot another person unless your life is in danger. Another thing about gun laws. More gun laws only protect criminals. Honest people are the only ones that obey the gun laws. In Nebraska everybody is allowed to carry. I think that is a good thing. These cowards only attack weak targets. GUN FREE ZONES are the dumbest thing ever invented. Don't be a target. When I was a DON in a nursing home they wanted to put up "GUN FREE ZONE" signs. I told them I will quit before I would ever allow that. They never put up those signs while I was working their. It's sad that the schools had to go through all that crap. INSTEAD OF GUN FREE ZONE---OUR STAFF ARE ARMED AND TRAINED TO PROTECT OUR STUDENTS. These shooters are suicidal mentally ill COWARDS.....
I teach hs and when we cover this type of training, I tell students they need to be aware at all times. Because shootings have been everywhere.
I was a Social Worker and Mental Health Family Therapist for 26 years. Most of my career was spent providing in-home and community based services. Many of my families lived in rural and isolated areas. We had twice yearly training on areas of worker safety and I still rehearse things I learned, especially when going into unfamiliar territory.
Couple years ago at my clinic, there was an active shooter, who also had 3 bombs. He killed one nurse and injured several others. We all really need to be prepared for anything at anytime!
Thanking you muchly Pam for sharing this invaluable information with us all.
I'm in the UK, so we have different problems here, for now.
These are very troubling times, & all of us should know what to do in these situations.
What has the World come to.
Heads on swivels everybody.
Take care & keep really busy everyone. ❤️🙂🐶
GREAT video! So sad that we need to have this kind of information, but we are all thankful for you and this information!!!! 🙂
Thank you.
It's so sad that we have to watch videos like this. 😢 Thank you, Pam.
And, once you lock and barricade the door, DO NOT stand in front of it, or in the direct line of it. There have been several people killed in shootings of the recent past, when the active shooter fired through the door. Please, everyone, practice situational awareness EVERY day, at all times. You don't have to live in fear, just have a plan, pay attention, and go about your business. No fear, just awareness and confidence.
Hi Pam, we don’t have training for “ active shooter” in Australia,however I was very interested in hearing yours and others comments on how vigilant we are in lots of countries for our safety, I know that I always practiced being safe when working on a ward with behaviours of concern as a nurse, then moved onto disability where I was assaulted, it is now a daily habit to notice where the exits are, can I get thru if necessary, where to hide and have the door in front of me.
What a knowledgeable pair you are, you make me think which is great for the grey matter, take care and stay safe from Melbourne Australia regards mez
Thank you so much! This is how I always say that going after our guns is the wrong thing, it is looking at the psychosis of the individuals.
I am sharing this video! You have made me realize that I am a sitting duck. No more. I will follow your instructions.😊
Thanks for sharing the information. Sadly, it is something we all need to think about.
Thank you for sharing this info. I'm a disabled senior adult with no family. No one to call for help. We have several drug addicts and mentally ill stuck in apartments around us which cause us to be in danger. No one cares here including the police. I've always tried to be safe but it involves never going outside except to go to doctor and infusion appointments. I'm so tired of living this way.
I'll offer two comments. First, there is safety in numbers, but we need to associate with the type of people who stand up for their friends and comrades, not shrinking violets who make excuses instead of acting. Second, regarding the lowlifes who terrorize the rest of the populace: if they suddenly disappeared one day, no one would care. Wouldn't that be nice, if they just started disappearing.
If you like fiction, try some books by Mercedes Lackey to get you into the right martial frame of mind.
If this is a concern, you can move to a safer area. Save up for a better apartment. Decide on your priorities.
@@destitute8493 Pam and Jim I hope you see this comment.
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Mary see if your state has Section 42. Specific apts (in good areas) base rent on income....plus there are other discounts. Then contact some local churches to help you move your stuff.
I went to school when the boys had gun racks in the back windows of their trucks every boy who drove had a farm truck and at least 1 gun loaded on the gun rack most of those racks came in 1through 4 some boys had yp to 4 ruffles loaded in their truck .we never had a school shooting. Maybe we need to go back to those days .
Before I retired I had mandatory training on Active Shooter training and as an RN it was very difficult to run out and leave my patients behind. I felt I would be abandoning them, and had very mixed feelings. I am very glad I never had to face that decision.
Like you I am always very aware of my surroundings and look for ways to exit a building for an emergent situation.
I was working a night shift in a hospital when there was an actual fire on my unit. These required drills do help prepare you for an active scene.
No you are getting out, so you can give intelligent information to responding law enforcement and advocate for your patients rescue.
I had these same thoughts when I worked at a nursing home. If there were an emergency of any type, I have no idea what I would have done - and we had no training whatsoever for it. But it did weigh on my mind and heart - so thankful I never had to face a decision like that.
Thank you .. Miss Rose 🕊✝️🕊
I was in the 6th grade in '65-'66. 🙂
I hope it never happens but I thank you for all the active shooter safty tips and I hope I remember them too.
Thank you for sharing your experience we all need to be aware and plan.
Thank you for sharing. I worry about my granddaughters in public schools every day.
A much needed, yet hard to discuss subject, and still, you’re comment “good use of a book” made me chuckle. Thank you for covering those subjects that may not often be thought of because they are hard to emotionally comprehend.
As a retired banker, I trained many branch staff members. We would walk out the back door and establish where they were running too! Fire extinguishers are great weapons.
Love that suggestion about fire extinguishers! Great idea.
Years ago I worked in a place that had the fbi come in and train us in what do in the event of an active shooter. I have carried that info with me every since, I am constantly telling my assistant and employees what to do in the event. For years people would look at me like I was crazy for always looking for a plan.. but in recent years they are understanding... and sometimes my assistant will say..what would we do in this building? I pray I am never in that situation but it's good to know I at least could come up with a plan if I ever am.
Excellent information. Thank you for sharing
You are welcome.
so educational ty Pam, I think this is the most useful video i have ever watched on youtube , it reminds me of my nursing days and what we as medical staff learn but we also had the responsibility of seeing to any wounded escaping safely.
Good Morning, Thank you for this stellar video. You reminded me of some things I'd been taught long ago and taught me so to add to it. These are raw times we live in and blunt and raw teachings like this is what saves lives.. Appreciate you so. Love to you
You are so welcome! And thank you for your kind words.
Great talk. Violence rates are going up, I'm in Canada, murder, violent crime, even car accidents everything the rates are through the roof, good talk.
Thank you.
I work downtown and my jerk employer insists that the door remain unlocked. We work in legal. Cracked out and homeless people everywhere. Sadly, I had to think about this same thing. Think I have a plan. I will ask the grocer that I frequent where the back door is - thank you.
Your University has a very good system! We all should learn how to servive and stay safe in that kind of situtations.
Thank you for your education!❤❤🙏
You are welcome.
I remember the bomb drills during the cold war with Russia in elementary school back in the 60's. Never imagined I'd have to worry about shooters when I was older. Was just telling my wife awhile ago to look for exits or places to hide in every store she shops in so she's prepared and to stay alert. Thanks for sharing this.
I have a friend that was worried about this. And I can see how this chokes you up. Thankyou for information, I will keep this in mind.
Thank you for covering this sobering but important topic.
Thank you @Rose Red Homestead - This was really quite informative! You ALWAYS have great tips too! I shared this with my son, who’s away at college, and will share elsewhere. Appreciate ALL you do! Blessings! 🕊️🌾