I see a lot of overlap in the functional moves learned in Shoto and kickboxing that are most effective. Feints in both. Distance management and subtlety in both. It's nice seeing the explanation of functional and more demonstrative moves. That's where everyone gets in trouble and upset I feel. I always wanted to get in karate.
These techniques brings me back memories of watching my younger brother doing his training! He acutally trained Shotokan karate for 13 years when he was a teenager😊 ...Not me though, I was the pro of "watching him train"😂
I'm an older martial scientist who started this journey in 69 in BKLYN NY. I've studied many different styles and systems and trained with multiple different arts. As the little dragon once said intelligently and correctly a kick is a kick and a punch is a punch. A reverse punch in the nose with bad intentions is no different from a reverse punch with bad intentions from a Silat or BJJ PRACTITIONER you will be injured. My takeaway is Systems and Styles are NOT IMPORTANT. Training execution and intentions are EVERYTHING. Osu and respect for the martial arts and sciences.
Hi Mr sonny Since you was on New york Do you ever heard about mixed wrestling there .where men can wrestling woman and there was prominent female wrestler named Deena Zarra ? ??? Thanx mate 🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺
When I used to practice Shotokan Karate we used to rely heavily on stances and form which is basically essential for balance and execution on strikes. But with a conditioned body the stances become irrelevant to a stand up approach without form. Being formless and unpredictable to an opponent is key. You can be hidden and dangerous in plain sight. My belief is to be unreadable . Energy travels in 2 forms direct (straight) or circular or harness both. Everything can work or not.
I'm glad you're able to join the dots between kihon and kata movements to kumite as I have come across some shotokan instructors from previous experience who were never able too.
Thanks for your clear explanations and visible repeatings of the important points. I also love that you give background information to the meanings of the japanese Karate 🥋expression. As I really struggle to remember them. So thanks🤗 again for all your shotokan videos.
Some of your videos, like this one, the way you explain and demonstrate the fundamentals, make instructors better instructors. You could actually tour and do instructor training. You're that good.
I absolutely love your videos. It is helping me and my young daughter's karate journey SO much and our Sensei is legitimately surprised at how well we seem to be doing....but he doesn't know we have secret youtube Sensei helping us :D
I’m thinking about doing another full contact karate tournament , it’s been over 15 yrs since I last competed in a tournament , your instructions are greatly appreciated 👍🏽
Did you do one? When I was competing as a kid in LA (around ages 12-17...I'm 40 now) I don't know that they ever called it full contact. But they did let things slide more back then. Feel like the old school methods are resurfacing as long as people sign the waiver to take the ride. I'm more cautious and aware of CTE now but sometimes you just need to push yourself
@@SmileFreestyle-hx2rc it’s been a long time since I compete in karate tournament but I competed in point sparring good for speed and timing and I did full contact karate that allows punches to the face and kicks not below the knees but kicks to head allowed when I did it 3 two min rounds go for as much points as possible or knock out . the last tournament I did was The Tacoma Full Contact Open when I was 27yr lost my first fight won the second fight against a different guy and got 3rd place in the mens brown and black belt division . CTE is real protect yourself train a lot speed, strength and conditioning : ) 🙏🏽
Point #3 Relaxation/Slide of the Knee: I can remember classes where we spent the entire night moving up and down the Dojo floor in a front stance. Never underestimate the impotence of a fundamentally solid technique.
Gotta love the differences in techniques between arts. The slide step part where you call stepping with the front foot wrong is actually how you do a Muay Thai round kick. You step with your foot already turned and off to the side to both get your head off-line as well as put more power into the kick. The slide step works really well with front-leg kicks, especially side kicks. Also, the "scoop" block used in kickboxing is the practical application of a standard low block.
Thank you for showing me how to use in limits my sensei rarely went over kumite cuz I was lower belt and now I want my kumite to be fire so I can actually use karate
I definitely need to take this advice seriously last time I did sparring in a tournament I failed horribly, And on that note I haven't spared someone in years literally other than that I'm doing taikyoku shodan until I get it down
@@lucidlegends1336 : Goju (traditional) = short stances, hard strikes, circular blokes, grapply take-downs, no flashy kicks, basic ‘nasty’ karate, defensive but offensive in its defence no sport type karate, get a good teacher no-nonsense club and you’re in your way…..
The knee slide is kind of similar to the "weight distribution" that my coach taught me. When stepping or kicking, you transfer your weight to the front leg before throwing the back leg forward.
I trained shotokan and i have been taught more on punches and other hand striking techniques and powerful one punch/strike finishing blows...my coach told me that to learn better kicks for karate, i could go for kyokushin...
@@stupidfrog2205 Karate was only added because Japan is the host country. Every Olympics, the host country gets to add an event of their choice, just for that year. In 2008, China chose wushu. This year, Japan chose karate. That said, the TKD situation may change. I'm hearing that wrestling will soon be taken out of the Olympics due to lack of popularity.
Well, alone the title itself... This statement is certainly true when looking at the crappy "bunkai" videos the JKA leaders presented in the 80s after countless questions of what the techniques in Kata are meaning. Because what they showed there makes exactly zero sense in real self defense. This lack of realism was the reason why my (now deceased) teacher turned his back on Shotokan and looked for something different. He found an okinawan master and what he teaches is so different from what we got to learn in JKA Shotokan. Much more practical and way more plausible. He does not tell you how to do a technique. He tells you WHY a technique is like this and not like that. Since that time (it was in late 2005/ early 2006) i practise okinawan Karate and the perhaps oldest style of okinawan Kobujutsu. And the Dojo, where i am is not the only one that turned its back on Shotokan because of this, there are dozens of Dojo throughout Germany that turned away from Shotokan and joined an okinawan style instead. So to say the way the JKA and its leaders from back then handeled things are responsible for the JKA losing quite a number of practitioners in Germany. All in all it is a remarkable phenomenon, that this recollection of old values and the true meaning of techniques and Kata, not this made up sportslike.... thing..... and the turning away from competitions and sports karate in favour of the old ways... it is remarkable that this phenomenon appearently has its roots in Europe and North Amercia.
@@stanclark3992 Well, there is a reason, why there is not a single Shotokan Dojo on Okinawa. Because modern, competition oriented Shotokan is viewed as a dead end by appearently many masters.
The problem with Shotokan, and most traditional martial arts, is that it's not just about the techniques, in fact they really don't matter that much as long as you've got the basics down, effectiveness is for the most part determined by how you spar, The Shotokan sparring format gives you a great way of engaging but lacks follow up and was is not that great for extended fights at close range or against grapplers, this is why if you want it to be "effective" you have to cross-train it with a form of kickboxing to make up for its weakness up close in prolonged exchanges and preferably also do some grappling to cower for that weakness, Then again no single martial art is ever truly effective and all are lacking in something, even MMA, so cross-training to cover your weaknesses is something that you should do no matter which martial art you train but you should especially do it with traditional martial arts, tho for whatever reason a lot of TMA schools discourage it which is just weird if you ask me
The problem comes from the simple fact that shotokan was introduced to Japan as self-defense only. Looking at actual traditional martial arts - sword, spear of any culture - their chief concern is literally killing the opponent while remaining alive. Karate should follow up a block by arm control and take downs - wado Ryu, goju ryu do a better job with this.
@@margaretlo4590 fair enough, though as a side note tradition in traditional martial art doesn't refer to it being old, just to it putting a lot of emphasis on tradition, Like karate with it's belts, bows at the start of the class, etc, That's why arts such as boxing and wrestling aren't referred to as tradition despite being much much older than any style of Karate
I agree that bowing and belts are alien to the west. But the belts are just for sorting students, bowing is just Japanese, even boxers bow in Japan. The real problem is that nobody is ever allowed to say hey, this doesn’t work! Judo doesn’t have this problem since they pressure test all the time, but karate body mechanics supports medieval weapon use, not hand to hand combat only. Sho ippon is kendo without the shinai. Kata punches are 70% oizuki, which matches the timing of a sword strike, too slow for punching and too far. The best karate fighters were in the KUGB of the 90s, and they used flurry attacks similar to kick boxing, which is what kumite actually is. In order to appreciate karate, we need to filter out the classical weapons/multi-opponent oriented techniques from the pure empty hand curriculum. It is all up to the individual, but it does help to have direction! BTW, there’s no way Shogo has ever been in a real fight….
@@margaretlo4590 bro, what the fuck are you talking about, I just corrected you on what a traditional martial art is, how is your whole spiel about karate and weapons even remotely related?
Never question anything it isn't the art that is effective rather the human being that's using the art it's the man that makes the art not the art that makes the man that's the question that should be asked is the one practicing the confident enough do you understand do you know what a tax would work best and you gauge your enemy from any distance are you always prepared or ready that goes for any discipline it's the man not the art
Cant tell you how many times I've heard people say.. well that guy says this martial art doesn't work. He tried it and got owned. And then having to tell them.. no, his interpretation of that art did not work for him. The knowledge was valid, but he lacked the skills and understanding to execute it in an way that was both efficiently integrated to his unique body, and sufficiently understood and ingrained in his mind and reflexes, to be used to his benefit in an effective manner for him. The over all effectiveness inevitably depends a great deal on the abilities of the practitioner, to use it to it's full potential.
I feel like the kata technique would be more effective if distance and timing were worked on yes you can be quicker with the other one but the kata form looks so much stronger
Nice video. But a few comments. I say this as a long-time Shotokan practitioner. One of the greatest weaknesses I’ve observed over time is that many Shotokan guys think their applications/techniques in kumite have to look like the movements in the kata. IMO this is a huge mistake. Practical, applied, effective karate does not look like the kata. The interpretation and applications of oi tsuki and the long forward stance are cases in point. Oi tsuki in the kata is a PLACEHOLDER for any counter attack. When you see oi tsuki in the kata, it does not mean that you are to follow the parry with oi tsuki. Maybe you do, but it also instructs you to make SOME counter, such as a reverse punch. So, in Heian 1, where you make gedan barai followed by oi tsuki, you should understand that you are not always making oi tsuki, but that you should train yourself in the bunkai to make some counter. The most economical and safe counter from gedan barai is the reverse punch. But there are others, which you should practice in bunkai drills with a partner and actual freeplay. Here, the instruction on using oi tsuki is pretty sound in that you are advised to land the punch before your passing foot hits the floor. So many Shotokan guys I’ve seen have tried to tie the movement of the hand with the landing of the foot, as you see in the kata. Practical experience has shown that you cannot do this if you want to get a hit. But a lot of Shotokan guys haven’t gotten the message. When I started out in karate in the 70s, we had Shotokan guys trying oi tsuki in tournaments. They almost always walked into the other guy’s straight lead, cross or backfist. Pretty soon you didn’t see much of that in the open tournaments. (also, I would add if I want to use an oi tsuki, I usually start with a straight lead and then follow with the oi tsuki to avoid the opponent’s straight lead counter. Punching to the body with the oi tsuki also seems to be more effective that aiming two blows to the head. You have to be careful to cover your head when making oi tsuki because you may kiss the other guys cross; had that happen.) Now to the long forward stance. This sort of stance is impractical most of the time. First of all, merely standing in this long stance tends to reduce your mobility. For some people, it seems to work okay, but for the bulk of people I’ve observed, not so much. Secondly, if you are executing hand attacks, you are often reaching long for the opponent which reduces your power. It’s okay if you’re playing sparring tag, but not if you’re really trying to do damage. Watch people who actually fight like muay thai guys, kickboxers, boxers and such. They’ll use the forward stance but it is usually a shorter version of it. You get more hip rotation with the shorter stance. This is not to say that you should never go long. Sometimes you have to reach. But most of the time, an effective forward stance is a shorter one.
I think what differs SHOTOKAN & MMA is the ASPECT of CONFORMANCE. SHOTOKAN has it's Unique / Standard way of doing things which can not be diverted since the method is fixed. While in MMA, Methods are Open Suitable to one's adavantage, preference, & situation. Hmm.. how about trying out K1, MuayThai or MMA as Suggestions for your Upcoming Videos? Since these are the Popular Disciplines competed in ONE CHAMPIONSHIP! OSS!🎌🥋
In other arts such as boxing, theres a similiar technique i believe the fitzimons shift. It covers distance. In karate, you grab first the hand of the opponentto propel you and hit the target
You telegraph all your techniques we leave to very easily to defend against your stance leaves you wide open first front sweep and I would throw a step beside blade kick for a point
Sensei, excuse me, why nowadays karate kumite techniques isnt look like kata, kihon techniqes, for example , instead of a rigid stance, they bouncing, putting their hand under their chin,... and lot of other techniques are different from kata and kihon.Plese let me know, thank you very much.And in a fight, we should use kata kihon technique with rigid stance or kumite techniqe with bouncing?
Basics and kata techniques reflect the body mechanics of weapons use, outdoors on uneven ground, against more than one opponent. Bouncing, jabbing is fine if you have a perfect indoor floor, one opponent and no one is trying to hit you with a 1.5 kilo weapon.
Yeah they work, because they follow the same Biomechanics as every other Technique does. But if you rarely drill applications and rarely spar, you will never learn to fight. Thats what people mean by that expression. Most shotokan schools never train you to fight
Always the punch is from the hip “hi kite” style? Make me feel that people should have a better guard in order to avoid punches , like boxers . Can somebody explain me please why normally we don’t see hikite style of punching in mma for example with karate background. I so a video where loto machida recommended to punch not from the hip. Like a new karate adaptation
Before I watch: "Have you ever wondered if 'shotokan is effective?'" Lyoto Machida: "Hold my beer!" Well dis was kind of an interesting explanation of techniques. Had I not been dragged away from Vegas 16+ years ago, I might've been able 2 obtain a black belt in shotokan...
Bruce lee students have already explain all that. Any way what are best arcoding to your art not the dojo but the person you. Plus in the corner if one got less Pride.
🤣🤣 there's is no shotokan technique, style or rules count for nothing winning is every thing. Absorb what's is good.style is like a crystallization it stop process of karate.beautiful karate 👶love you
I think when people wonder if a martial art is effective they are talking about real world combat on the street. Not sparring. This does not reflect my opinion. Just what they're talking about when they think of effectiveness. Personally I have no opinion on Shotokan or if it is effective or not. I never really saw any Shotokan until I discovered your channel. Seems pretty cool. But seems most of what we think of as Karate isn't really karate. For example: Chuck Norris was a huge karate influence but he learned Tang Soo Do.. which is a Korean Martial Art based on Karate (from Wikipedia) but is not actually karate.. Have you made a video on what karate actually is? From my reading on Wikipedia it says that Karate is mainly an Okinawan art.
By the way, what's your opinion on Karate Combat and their ruleset? Their channel is Karate Combat and it's a karate competition with very unique rules. Also, please react to these two MMA fighters with karate backgrounds talking about techniques from their styles (shotokan and kyokushin) -- th-cam.com/video/8f25kT94jwk/w-d-xo.html
@@stanclark3992 at least i am not someone who tries to act like i am the karate grandmaster of the universe on the internet. The real heroes are the ones who actually train to win gold medals.
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I see a lot of overlap in the functional moves learned in Shoto and kickboxing that are most effective. Feints in both. Distance management and subtlety in both.
It's nice seeing the explanation of functional and more demonstrative moves. That's where everyone gets in trouble and upset I feel.
I always wanted to get in karate.
These techniques brings me back memories of watching my younger brother doing his training!
He acutally trained Shotokan karate for 13 years when he was a teenager😊
...Not me though, I was the pro of "watching him train"😂
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Why you here
Looking forward to this one. Practical application is my favourite. Thank you
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Always saw my sifu moving in such fluid way when demonstrating techniques, now I see that these tips apply so well to what I was missing, thanks!
I'm an older martial scientist who started this journey in 69 in BKLYN NY. I've studied many different styles and systems and trained with multiple different arts. As the little dragon once said intelligently and correctly a kick is a kick and a punch is a punch. A reverse punch in the nose with bad intentions is no different from a reverse punch with bad intentions from a Silat or BJJ PRACTITIONER you will be injured. My takeaway is Systems and Styles are NOT IMPORTANT. Training execution and intentions are EVERYTHING. Osu and respect for the martial arts and sciences.
Hi Mr sonny
Since you was on New york
Do you ever heard about mixed wrestling there .where men can wrestling woman and there was prominent female wrestler named Deena Zarra ? ???
Thanx mate 🌺🌺🌺🌺🌺
When I used to practice Shotokan Karate we used to rely heavily on stances and form which is basically essential for balance and execution on strikes. But with a conditioned body the stances become irrelevant to a stand up approach without form. Being formless and unpredictable to an opponent is key. You can be hidden and dangerous in plain sight. My belief is to be unreadable . Energy travels in 2 forms direct (straight) or circular or harness both. Everything can work or not.
Thanks for the good advice, and for showing us how to train it correctly!
I'm glad you're able to join the dots between kihon and kata movements to kumite as I have come across some shotokan instructors from previous experience who were never able too.
Thanks for your clear explanations and visible repeatings of the important points.
I also love that you give background information to the meanings of the japanese Karate 🥋expression. As
I really struggle to remember them. So thanks🤗 again for all your shotokan videos.
Some of your videos, like this one, the way you explain and demonstrate the fundamentals, make instructors better instructors. You could actually tour and do instructor training. You're that good.
Very good video.
Thank you for sharing ‼️
I absolutely love your videos. It is helping me and my young daughter's karate journey SO much and our Sensei is legitimately surprised at how well we seem to be doing....but he doesn't know we have secret youtube Sensei helping us :D
I’m thinking about doing another full contact karate tournament , it’s been over 15 yrs since I last competed in a tournament , your instructions are greatly appreciated 👍🏽
Did you do one? When I was competing as a kid in LA (around ages 12-17...I'm 40 now) I don't know that they ever called it full contact. But they did let things slide more back then. Feel like the old school methods are resurfacing as long as people sign the waiver to take the ride. I'm more cautious and aware of CTE now but sometimes you just need to push yourself
@@SmileFreestyle-hx2rc it’s been a long time since I compete in karate tournament but I competed in point sparring good for speed and timing and I did full contact karate that allows punches to the face and kicks not below the knees but kicks to head allowed when I did it 3 two min rounds go for as much points as possible or knock out . the last tournament I did was The Tacoma Full Contact Open when I was 27yr lost my first fight won the second fight against a different guy and got 3rd place in the mens brown and black belt division . CTE is real protect yourself train a lot speed, strength and conditioning : ) 🙏🏽
@@oldschoolkarate-5o Tacoma looks like a spot where you might need that training walking down certain streets. Be safe
@@SmileFreestyle-hx2rc thanks , you to
"Shotokan does not work."
*Lyoto Machida and Kyoji Horiguchi entered the chat*
"Why do i hear boss battle music"
Mikio Yahara = lvl 100 boss
It’s not even just them. Every point karate are so similar
@@kazumasjourneyofsong511average yakuza game boss
Point #3 Relaxation/Slide of the Knee: I can remember classes where we spent the entire night moving up and down the Dojo floor in a front stance. Never underestimate the impotence of a fundamentally solid technique.
Thanks! I'll watch this quite a few times more 😊.
Great info, thanks!
I like the detail you added on the step. I've been doing karate for 7 years and nobody has ever showed me that.
😊👍 LOVE YOUR VIDEOS LEARNING SO MUCH THANK YOU FOR SHARING THEM HERE. I JUST STARTED TEA KWON DO IM A WHITE BELT RIGHT NOW.
Thank you for the lesson.
Gotta love the differences in techniques between arts. The slide step part where you call stepping with the front foot wrong is actually how you do a Muay Thai round kick. You step with your foot already turned and off to the side to both get your head off-line as well as put more power into the kick. The slide step works really well with front-leg kicks, especially side kicks. Also, the "scoop" block used in kickboxing is the practical application of a standard low block.
Thank You So Much, Yusuke Sensei...
Love ur videos
thank you so much this videos make my kick amazing
I wish I had these tutorials 20 years ago, could save years of frustration in kumite
I've done Shotokan, Muay Thai and BJJ. They all work
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Good video thanks.
Thank you for showing me how to use in limits my sensei rarely went over kumite cuz I was lower belt and now I want my kumite to be fire so I can actually use karate
useful video ! thanks
good techniques !!
I definitely need to take this advice seriously last time I did sparring in a tournament I failed horribly, And on that note I haven't spared someone in years literally other than that I'm doing taikyoku shodan until I get it down
Thanks, even though I’m Goju practitioner I’m always looking at ways to improve even if that means different styles.
Different karate styles are all branches from the same tree, it's a great thing to have an open mind.. I'm also a goju guy 👊
Introduce me to goju gentlemen
@@lucidlegends1336 : Goju (traditional) = short stances, hard strikes, circular blokes, grapply take-downs, no flashy kicks, basic ‘nasty’ karate, defensive but offensive in its defence no sport type karate, get a good teacher no-nonsense club and you’re in your way…..
This is so useful Osu Sensei
The knee slide is kind of similar to the "weight distribution" that my coach taught me.
When stepping or kicking, you transfer your weight to the front leg before throwing the back leg forward.
I trained shotokan and i have been taught more on punches and other hand striking techniques and powerful one punch/strike finishing blows...my coach told me that to learn better kicks for karate, i could go for kyokushin...
Are you gonna do any reaction videos of karate at the Olympics since it’s not gonna be a sport in the next summer Olympics?
Wait you mean karate is ONLY for the Tokyo Olympics then it's out of the Olympics again? Well that sucks if it's true
@@stupidfrog2205 Appears to be the case. It's removed for the next Olympics in France
@@boringguyzz well that’s shit. I was watching the Olympic taekwondo yesterday.... no idea how that can stay but Karate goes...
@@stupidfrog2205 Karate was only added because Japan is the host country. Every Olympics, the host country gets to add an event of their choice, just for that year. In 2008, China chose wushu. This year, Japan chose karate.
That said, the TKD situation may change. I'm hearing that wrestling will soon be taken out of the Olympics due to lack of popularity.
@@KenpoKid77 ah come on man they can't remove one of the 6 rings
Well, alone the title itself... This statement is certainly true when looking at the crappy "bunkai" videos the JKA leaders presented in the 80s after countless questions of what the techniques in Kata are meaning. Because what they showed there makes exactly zero sense in real self defense. This lack of realism was the reason why my (now deceased) teacher turned his back on Shotokan and looked for something different. He found an okinawan master and what he teaches is so different from what we got to learn in JKA Shotokan. Much more practical and way more plausible. He does not tell you how to do a technique. He tells you WHY a technique is like this and not like that. Since that time (it was in late 2005/ early 2006) i practise okinawan Karate and the perhaps oldest style of okinawan Kobujutsu. And the Dojo, where i am is not the only one that turned its back on Shotokan because of this, there are dozens of Dojo throughout Germany that turned away from Shotokan and joined an okinawan style instead. So to say the way the JKA and its leaders from back then handeled things are responsible for the JKA losing quite a number of practitioners in Germany. All in all it is a remarkable phenomenon, that this recollection of old values and the true meaning of techniques and Kata, not this made up sportslike.... thing..... and the turning away from competitions and sports karate in favour of the old ways... it is remarkable that this phenomenon appearently has its roots in Europe and North Amercia.
u are correct up to 95%
@@stanclark3992 Well, there is a reason, why there is not a single Shotokan Dojo on Okinawa. Because modern, competition oriented Shotokan is viewed as a dead end by appearently many masters.
@@stanclark3992 Thank you for elaborating. Now i see that we understand each other.
@@stanclark3992 hi Stan. As i wrote previously: we understand each other now.
Yusuke LOVES Jion :D
Good Points
Master Tatsuya Naka will change anyone's mind.
If any one struggles with kata I recommend only focus on stability strength explode balance
The problem with Shotokan, and most traditional martial arts, is that it's not just about the techniques, in fact they really don't matter that much as long as you've got the basics down, effectiveness is for the most part determined by how you spar,
The Shotokan sparring format gives you a great way of engaging but lacks follow up and was is not that great for extended fights at close range or against grapplers, this is why if you want it to be "effective" you have to cross-train it with a form of kickboxing to make up for its weakness up close in prolonged exchanges and preferably also do some grappling to cower for that weakness,
Then again no single martial art is ever truly effective and all are lacking in something, even MMA, so cross-training to cover your weaknesses is something that you should do no matter which martial art you train but you should especially do it with traditional martial arts, tho for whatever reason a lot of TMA schools discourage it which is just weird if you ask me
The problem comes from the simple fact that shotokan was introduced to Japan as self-defense only. Looking at actual traditional martial arts - sword, spear of any culture - their chief concern is literally killing the opponent while remaining alive. Karate should follow up a block by arm control and take downs - wado Ryu, goju ryu do a better job with this.
@@margaretlo4590 fair enough, though as a side note tradition in traditional martial art doesn't refer to it being old, just to it putting a lot of emphasis on tradition,
Like karate with it's belts, bows at the start of the class, etc,
That's why arts such as boxing and wrestling aren't referred to as tradition despite being much much older than any style of Karate
I agree that bowing and belts are alien to the west. But the belts are just for sorting students, bowing is just Japanese, even boxers bow in Japan. The real problem is that nobody is ever allowed to say hey, this doesn’t work! Judo doesn’t have this problem since they pressure test all the time, but karate body mechanics supports medieval weapon use, not hand to hand combat only. Sho ippon is kendo without the shinai. Kata punches are 70% oizuki, which matches the timing of a sword strike, too slow for punching and too far. The best karate fighters were in the KUGB of the 90s, and they used flurry attacks similar to kick boxing, which is what kumite actually is. In order to appreciate karate, we need to filter out the classical weapons/multi-opponent oriented techniques from the pure empty hand curriculum. It is all up to the individual, but it does help to have direction! BTW, there’s no way Shogo has ever been in a real fight….
@@margaretlo4590 bro, what the fuck are you talking about, I just corrected you on what a traditional martial art is, how is your whole spiel about karate and weapons even remotely related?
Karate combined with BJJ is powerful.
Shotokan is effective depending on the person using it. This is the same for any forms of fighting.
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I performed Jion on my black belt test in Shotokan
Never question anything it isn't the art that is effective rather the human being that's using the art it's the man that makes the art not the art that makes the man that's the question that should be asked is the one practicing the confident enough do you understand do you know what a tax would work best and you gauge your enemy from any distance are you always prepared or ready that goes for any discipline it's the man not the art
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Cant tell you how many times I've heard people say.. well that guy says this martial art doesn't work. He tried it and got owned.
And then having to tell them.. no, his interpretation of that art did not work for him.
The knowledge was valid, but he lacked the skills and understanding to execute it in an way that was both efficiently integrated to his unique body, and sufficiently understood and ingrained in his mind and reflexes, to be used to his benefit in an effective manner for him.
The over all effectiveness inevitably depends a great deal on the abilities of the practitioner, to use it to it's full potential.
Mikio Yahara uses Shotokan as it was meant to be used. As an actual fighting system.
I feel like the kata technique would be more effective if distance and timing were worked on yes you can be quicker with the other one but the kata form looks so much stronger
All techniques work, it’s the person using them.
Nice video. But a few comments. I say this as a long-time Shotokan practitioner. One of the greatest weaknesses I’ve observed over time is that many Shotokan guys think their applications/techniques in kumite have to look like the movements in the kata. IMO this is a huge mistake. Practical, applied, effective karate does not look like the kata.
The interpretation and applications of oi tsuki and the long forward stance are cases in point. Oi tsuki in the kata is a PLACEHOLDER for any counter attack. When you see oi tsuki in the kata, it does not mean that you are to follow the parry with oi tsuki. Maybe you do, but it also instructs you to make SOME counter, such as a reverse punch. So, in Heian 1, where you make gedan barai followed by oi tsuki, you should understand that you are not always making oi tsuki, but that you should train yourself in the bunkai to make some counter. The most economical and safe counter from gedan barai is the reverse punch. But there are others, which you should practice in bunkai drills with a partner and actual freeplay.
Here, the instruction on using oi tsuki is pretty sound in that you are advised to land the punch before your passing foot hits the floor. So many Shotokan guys I’ve seen have tried to tie the movement of the hand with the landing of the foot, as you see in the kata. Practical experience has shown that you cannot do this if you want to get a hit. But a lot of Shotokan guys haven’t gotten the message. When I started out in karate in the 70s, we had Shotokan guys trying oi tsuki in tournaments. They almost always walked into the other guy’s straight lead, cross or backfist. Pretty soon you didn’t see much of that in the open tournaments.
(also, I would add if I want to use an oi tsuki, I usually start with a straight lead and then follow with the oi tsuki to avoid the opponent’s straight lead counter. Punching to the body with the oi tsuki also seems to be more effective that aiming two blows to the head. You have to be careful to cover your head when making oi tsuki because you may kiss the other guys cross; had that happen.)
Now to the long forward stance. This sort of stance is impractical most of the time. First of all, merely standing in this long stance tends to reduce your mobility. For some people, it seems to work okay, but for the bulk of people I’ve observed, not so much.
Secondly, if you are executing hand attacks, you are often reaching long for the opponent which reduces your power. It’s okay if you’re playing sparring tag, but not if you’re really trying to do damage. Watch people who actually fight like muay thai guys, kickboxers, boxers and such. They’ll use the forward stance but it is usually a shorter version of it. You get more hip rotation with the shorter stance. This is not to say that you should never go long. Sometimes you have to reach. But most of the time, an effective forward stance is a shorter one.
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Nice,these Techniques can be adjusted as well for MMA
I think what differs SHOTOKAN & MMA is the ASPECT of CONFORMANCE. SHOTOKAN has it's Unique / Standard way of doing things which can not be diverted since the method is fixed. While in MMA, Methods are Open Suitable to one's adavantage, preference, & situation. Hmm.. how about trying out K1, MuayThai or MMA as Suggestions for your Upcoming Videos? Since these are the Popular Disciplines competed in ONE CHAMPIONSHIP! OSS!🎌🥋
Dear sensai, please find shotokan karate fights in movies and review them. Thank you 👍✅
People who are saying martial arts does not work are ussually those who cannot even form a proper fist
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awesome video! please react to lyoto machida! he is one of the greatest karate mma fighters of all time !
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What about kyokushin karate? They have a completely different style of kumite.
I feel like you should do a breakdown of Micheal jai white (you’ll like him karate guy 100%, and he also does those 100 man kumites)
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Ive been in plenty street.fights, and shotokan works. I think it realy depends on the person, i.e., are you technically good
How will this help you in actual combat
In other arts such as boxing, theres a similiar technique i believe the fitzimons shift. It covers distance. In karate, you grab first the hand of the opponentto propel you and hit the target
I would never slide forward while throwing a front kick.
The third method is called 'hiza no nuki' in Japanese, is that right?!
i have never seen such a cute and good looking Sensei. Never mind :D
Oss !!
" Lyoto machida"
You telegraph all your techniques we leave to very easily to defend against your stance leaves you wide open first front sweep and I would throw a step beside blade kick for a point
Sensei, excuse me, why nowadays karate kumite techniques isnt look like kata, kihon techniqes, for example , instead of a rigid stance, they bouncing, putting their hand under their chin,... and lot of other techniques are different from kata and kihon.Plese let me know, thank you very much.And in a fight, we should use kata kihon technique with rigid stance or kumite techniqe with bouncing?
Basics and kata techniques reflect the body mechanics of weapons use, outdoors on uneven ground, against more than one opponent. Bouncing, jabbing is fine if you have a perfect indoor floor, one opponent and no one is trying to hit you with a 1.5 kilo weapon.
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Your mae geri looks like muaythai "mae geri"
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Please react to kuk sool won
Yeah they work, because they follow the same Biomechanics as every other Technique does. But if you rarely drill applications and rarely spar, you will never learn to fight. Thats what people mean by that expression. Most shotokan schools never train you to fight
I now a little things like oi zuki chudan and oi zuki chodan gera ma rai heian shodan and the shuto and more but I don’t no the name
Thank you but 4 is a bad number, give as 5, please! :)
LOL I caught that reference! Stay away from 4 or 7 :D
@@MrHitotsumusha : hi 5! :)
Always the punch is from the hip “hi kite” style? Make me feel that people should have a better guard in order to avoid punches , like boxers . Can somebody explain me please why normally we don’t see hikite style of punching in mma for example with karate background. I so a video where loto machida recommended to punch not from the hip. Like a new karate adaptation
Before I watch:
"Have you ever wondered if 'shotokan is effective?'"
Lyoto Machida: "Hold my beer!"
Well dis was kind of an interesting explanation of techniques. Had I not been dragged away from Vegas 16+ years ago, I might've been able 2 obtain a black belt in shotokan...
7:34 can you teach us the Shotokan twerk technqiue?
lol xD
Ask lyoto Machida If shotokan is effective lol
Your toe alignment is off in your mai geri. You would break your toe if done full contact. How you practice is how you flow in the real situation.
Bruce lee students have already explain all that. Any way what are best arcoding to your art not the dojo but the person you. Plus in the corner if one got less Pride.
🤣🤣 there's is no shotokan technique, style or rules count for nothing winning is every thing. Absorb what's is good.style is like a crystallization it stop process of karate.beautiful karate 👶love you
I think when people wonder if a martial art is effective they are talking about real world combat on the street. Not sparring. This does not reflect my opinion. Just what they're talking about when they think of effectiveness. Personally I have no opinion on Shotokan or if it is effective or not. I never really saw any Shotokan until I discovered your channel. Seems pretty cool. But seems most of what we think of as Karate isn't really karate. For example: Chuck Norris was a huge karate influence but he learned Tang Soo Do.. which is a Korean Martial Art based on Karate (from Wikipedia) but is not actually karate..
Have you made a video on what karate actually is? From my reading on Wikipedia it says that Karate is mainly an Okinawan art.
No one ever said this lol. 😂
By the way, what's your opinion on Karate Combat and their ruleset? Their channel is Karate Combat and it's a karate competition with very unique rules. Also, please react to these two MMA fighters with karate backgrounds talking about techniques from their styles (shotokan and kyokushin) -- th-cam.com/video/8f25kT94jwk/w-d-xo.html
Shotokan doesn’t work until the top UFC fighters in the world are all karate guys but ok
I always say it's less about the martial and more about the practitioner. Even a frying pan can be deadly in the right hands 🙏
@@stupidfrog2205 Exactly!
Dear karate baby 👶style or rules count for nothing winning is everything. Absorb what is useful avoid useless Bruce Lee.
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Why dont you try to get in olympics first instead of trying to prove yourself with youtube
@@stanclark3992 at least i am not someone who tries to act like i am the karate grandmaster of the universe on the internet. The real heroes are the ones who actually train to win gold medals.
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