=== Dawi after dark [1996 pts] Warhammer: The Old World, Dwarfen Mountain Holds, Royal Clan === ++ Characters [978 pts] ++ Anvil of Doom [360 pts] - Hand weapons - Shields - Heavy armour - Master Rune of Adamant - Rune of Spellbreaking Runesmith [279 pts] - Hand weapon - Great weapon - Full plate armour - Shield - Battle Standard Bearer [Master Rune of Grungni + Rune of Battle] - 3x Rune of Spellbreaking King [339 pts] - Hand weapon - Great weapon - Full plate armour - General - Shieldbearers - Master Rune of Smiting - Master Rune of Gromril - Rune of Preservation - Rune of the Furnace ++ Core Units [513 pts] ++ 28 Longbeards [513 pts] - Hand weapons - Great weapons - Heavy armour - Shields - Drilled (0-1 unit per 1000 points) - Elder (champion) [Rune of Passage + Rune of the Furnace] - Standard bearer [Strollaz' Rune + Rune of Battle + Rune of Courage] - Musician ++ Special Units [160 pts] ++ Dwarf Cart [65 pts] - Hand weapons - Bugman's Cart Grudge Thrower [95 pts] - Stone thrower - Hand weapons - Light armour ++ Rare Units [345 pts] ++ 18 Irondrakes [345 pts] - Hand weapons - Drakeguns - Full plate armour - Drilled (0-1 unit per 1000 points) - Ironwarden (champion) [Trollhammer torpedo + Cinderblast bombs] - Standard bearer [Rune of Courage] --- Created with "Old World Builder" [old-world-builder.com]
@@DawiafterdarkOf course, the best video by Close Order to date is the one which interviewed you after you won your first tournaments with your original grand army list. You are very good at explaining why you prefer particular units and describing the synergies between them.
Can't say I'm thrilled by the amount of people trying to emulate your lists at events I'm attending, these 2 massive blocks are certainly tough to shift! Really appreciate your videos though, it is great to get so many insights in what goes on in a top player's list-building and tactics. Also I never knew about multiple-wounds not counting for overkill on unit champions - learn everyday!
Thanks mate ! Really appreciate it and glad you enjoy it ! I would count you in the top players mind mate ! Yeah it’s on page 175 of the rulebook , most people haven’t read it , just means you can be very strategic with challenges against heros with the ogre blade that aren’t on a dragon for instance :)
@@Dawiafterdark cheers mate, I think there is still a bit of a gap, but I’m doing my best to close it! Also, I didn’t comment on your other video, but I have two cats myself that are getting into senior territory, and I do want to share my sympathies with you. I can’t imagine what it will be like to have to say goodbye, and until then, I will cherish every day that we get to cuddle!
Loved the details in this episode, as a software engineer I love analyzing and attention to details. The strategy to use with respect to the units, characters, and magic item combinations alltogether is a lot of excellent details that I have listened to this through a couple times now and took notes!
Thanks for another video Ritchie! Just gettng into the game from accross the pond, cant wait for your beginner vids! Nearly finished with my stunty army and you've helped tremendously learning how everything works! ROCK AND STONE!
Great video thanks, looks simple on paper but its a very technical list. Irondrakes are so damn good, I had fun charging 40 zombies into a unit of 16 on a hill in casual game last week and the entire unit evaporated from C&S, combat and crumble. Epic.
I don’t play the game (yet), I am in the painting process 😅 I am not going to play Dwarves, but I really love that you share your wisdom. (Would be cool if every faction had someone like you 🎉)
Hopefully you enjoy it when you play it ! What army do you play ? I am trying to get faction experts on from every faction so they can give breakdowns so that hopefully will help !
@@Dawiafterdark I am working on a Vampire Army (Painted 40 zombies). I know I will enjoy it - I play board games and Kill Team - and after watching a lot of Battle reports- I am sure:) And this is the game I could not afford as a kid/teen - so now I am taking revenge :) The only thing that worries a noob like me is my friend is playing demons - and I have looked at the rules - and I really don’t know how I could handle a Bloodthirster 🥹 with the Vampires.
@@Dawiafterdark Yeah but it has two different toughness values and two different wound pools. I can see both sides, and is very much what the FAQ should be for.
@@Zenfoxgames I find it funny people people will argue against everything that dwarfs can do but killing blow going over to a wound caused by a dukes shield is fine haha . I think people secretly fear the dawi
First of all, sorry for your loss... I'm glad that you're back at the start and give very good tips and food for thought. Your view of WtOW is very professional. Your nomination as captain for the English team is absolutely justified. Good luck and keep it up. Go Richy Go Dawi
Thank you I really appreciate it , been a tough week for sure so thought I’d try and throw myself back in headfirst to keep busy . Thank you , I really enjoy the game and really like finding combos that other people haven’t thought of or tried yet . Some of them I’ve tried definitely haven’t worked mind haha . But warts and all I love this game I hope that comes across :) and thank you mate ! It’s a privilege! For the dawi !!
Thanks Richy, your videos are always very helpful and I look forward to your beginner series. I've stopped taking the Master Rune of Adamant on the anvil as my play group seems to like big deathstars of poison shooting, so the T10 doesn't seem to matter much.
I wore my DaD swag the other night at game night and I think it really was a psychological advantage because when I yeeted my Hammerers up my opponent was already calling out the stolen tactic from Richy (all in good cheer, love the content brother) P.S. I know, your way is better but I painted my hammerers up early on and they are still my big unit. Could agree more on the runesmith build. So good.
Hahaha yes !!!! Love to see it mate ! Always so satisfying when the yeet works ! And glad you like the merch !! I love hammerers so much I just wish they were core with a king in the army so bad !!
Hey, love your videos and my dwarfs won against an army of Bretonnians last week with your tatics. I just wanted to suggest maybe you can use photos of your dwarf miniatures as thumbnail for videos. I think your models look stunning.
@@IronbearClan www.minimagtray.co.uk/product/25mm-minimagtray-rapid-reform-square-copy/ Here you go mate ! Thanks mate I’m glad you enjoyed it !! Rock and stone !!
its funny to me how similar our philosophy are, but how diffrent our lists are. i worked on a point denial list too, but mine is more MSU styled. i launch my characters with ironbreakers forward. while multiple unit of warriors and rangers defending my flanks. starting today i'll feel alot more confidente in my list after seen yours.
@@Dawiafterdark I don't claim to play as competitive a list as yours. We play 2250 points in my local group. Arcane Journals are allowed, but I don’t use them myself out of solidarity with the Legacy factions. I try to dominate one flank with my Rangers, Ironbreakers, and Gyrocopters by advancing aggressively. Meanwhile, my Dwarf Warriors and Longbeards hold the other flank. When I advance in a marching column, I hope to get charged and lose the marching column formation and gain my rank bonus. Just like you, I use my war machines to take out easy-support units. I’ve found myself valuing armor over strength, making it hard for my opponent to score points unless they bring the right tools for the job. My Warriors with shields surprise me every time with how well they hold the line. SDA Dwarf 2250 point army 05/01-25 Characters Anvil of Doom 235 Master Rune of Adamant +100 335 King 125 Great weapon +4 Shield bearers +60 3x Rune of Fury +75 Master Rune of Gromril +45 Rune of Furnace +5 314 Thane 60 Shield +2 Master rune of Grungni +80 2x Runes of Battle +50 192 Total 841 Characters Core 16x Dwarf warriors 128 Full command +15 Shield +16 159 16x Longbeards 192 Full command +18 Great weapon +16 226 16x Rangers 176 Full command +18 Shield +16 210 Total 595 Core Special 15x Iron Breakers 225 Drilled +15 Bearer +7 Rune of Battle +25 Strollaz’ Rune +25 297 Gyrocopter 60 Brimstone Gun +5 65 Gyrocopter 60 Brimstone Gun +5 65 Grudge Thrower 95 Cannon 100 100 total 622 Special Rare 5x Iron drakes 75 Champion +6 Trollhammer torpedo +15 96 5x Iron drakes 75 Champion +6 Trollhammer torpedo +15 96 Total 192 Rare total 2250 point 98 wounds
I absolutely love your content. Its an easy insta click when your vids come up! Im trying to save my money for the incoming high elf release but you're always tempting me with dwarves! Again, keep up the amazing content and thank you for your contribution to the hobby!!
Thank you for the great content on TOW! I appreciate the time you take to explain your reasoning behind the unit and rune choices. I was curious, given that this list is so few units and heavy on points denial, if you've seen anyone having success with a multiple small unit (msu) approach in TOW?
Thank you ! Glad you enjoyed it ! I’ve been using the list for a couple of monthes so just wanted to share my thoughts on the whys , as people don’t normally share that :) so msu can work really well into some armys , but does struggle into monsters , and my meta here is just saturated with them !
Hi Richie, great video as always! Do poison attacks wound automatically on the Anvil? Just love this list! I am loling out loud at how OP that Dwarf King is! Make our enemies FEAR US!! !LOVE IT
So the short answer is yes ,, but it’s not a large target so you can screen it yourself stop poison shooting . I know right ! I love the fact people fear the king !!!
Hi Richie! When are you covering the yeet* and drilled tactics!?I am attending a small tournament on Sunday the 2nd Feb! My Dawi army is super inspired by your army list so i would like to understand better how to get to my enemy if I come accross a gunline! Tnx in advance
Love the video, been waiting for an in-depth look at the royal clans and am exited to run this list with my collection. Only thing I’m considering changing is running a bolt thrower with rune of skewering and reloading. have you had any experience or success with bolt throwers? Considering they are BS 3, id assume they are as much of a gamble as the grudge thrower. Many thanks!
Thank you ! Glad you enjoyed it ! I actually like the bolt throwers , skewering is lovely , I killed an entire unit of chosen knights in one shot before with one haha , if you run it position it on an extreme flank so you can get flank shots ! But yes very much a gamble !
Awesome !! Very excited about this! Question @ 2:47 you mention you need to roll a 7 on two dice to hit the more powerful version of oath and steel. Just checking cause I thought it was 8. Also in my game yesterday my troll torpedoes either rolled a 1 to hit or 1 to wound lol.
@@Dawiafterdark All good man, just thought I might have missed a bonus or something. There's so much going on in that list. I'm having just the best experience with it.
Haha Im glad to hear it’s not just my Trollhammers that aren’t behaving, I run 3 units of 5 Irondrakes to maximise the trollhammers, last tournament my Rangers held their ground against a Stardragon, Dragon lost, Did a FBIGO, I held back to shoot with everything, I had 3 Trollhammers hitting on 2+, wounding on 2+, rolled for hits I rolled 2 1s, and to wound I rolled a 1 🤦♂️ 2 rounds in a row 🤦♂️
Good stuff Richy- love the smite king. Here’s a Q: the royal clan +1S: does it work on follow ups (pursuits?) from enemy’s FBIGO of less than 3”? Not sure about the king not challenging champions: 7 CR, all but guaranteed, is better than killing 2-3 normal mooks for 2-3 CR?
@@Dawiafterdark - Cheers for the reply! I'm not sure that's right (but prepared to be corrected!). I think you technically "pursue" after FBIGO, which counts as a charge if you hit an enemy, but which further means you need to go 3" to trigger Ancerstral Fury, becasue its a charge. "Follow up" is, I think, only ued if the enemy Give Ground. It's worth checking I think!
Sorry it got ruled here so long ago by TOs I’d forgotten , so most events will count the FBIGO as a follow up for this skill :) always worth asking your TO but I’d forgotten that was even the actual wording haha
Great Video. Hope you are felling slowly better. I have two situations, where i struggle with list build decisions. I have lost a few fun battles against one opponent with lizarmen or skaven, while i had a pretty balanced standard army, and he said i have to take either much more artillery or more smaller blocks of infantry. not sure how to act on that. also what do you think about a list with ironbrekers and irondrakes as detachment together with miner's cart? Is it possible to pull off or will this be to stationary?
I actually try different ones, yet they all seem to point into a scheme of balance. This one i used against his skaven and lost. ++ Characters [996 pts] ++ King [314 pts] (Hand weapon, Great weapon, Full plate armour, General, Shieldbearers, Master Rune of Smiting, Rune of Fury, Rune of Preservation) Thane [212 pts] (Hand weapon, Full plate armour, Shield, Battle Standard Bearer [Master Rune of Grungni], On foot, Rune of Fortitude, Rune of Shielding) Thane [138 pts] (Hand weapon, Handgun, Full plate armour, Shield, On foot, Master Rune of Bursting Flame, Rune of Accuracy, Rune of Rapid Fire) Runesmith [97 pts] (Hand weapon, Great weapon, Full plate armour, Rune of Spellbreaking) Anvil of Doom [235 pts] (Hand weapons, Shields, Heavy armour) ++ Core Units [556 pts] ++ 20 Royal Clan Warriors [258 pts] (Hand weapons, Shields, Heavy armour, Drilled, Stubborn, Royal Clan Veteran, Standard bearer, Musician) 20 Longbeards [298 pts] (Hand weapons, Great weapons, Heavy armour, Shields, Elder (champion), Standard bearer, Musician) ++ Special Units [225 pts] ++ Grudge Thrower [115 pts] (Stone thrower, Hand weapons, Light armour, Rune of Forging, Rune of Reloading) Grudge Thrower [110 pts] (Stone thrower, Hand weapons, Light armour, Rune of Forging) ++ Rare Units [222 pts] ++ 5 Irondrakes [111 pts] (Hand weapons, Drakeguns, Full plate armour, Ironwarden (champion) [Trollhammer torpedo + Cinderblast bombs]) 5 Irondrakes [111 pts] (Hand weapons, Drakeguns, Full plate armour, Ironwarden (champion) [Trollhammer torpedo + Cinderblast bombs]) --- Created with "Old World Builder"
hey there, great summary! One rules questions - how come multiple wounds do not work against unit champions in a challenge to generate overkill CR? Can't seem to find any rule which would prevent that.
Hey! Great list, being totally honest I dropped playing DMH and started playing CHD coz my first games with DMH were pitiful. But this seems really great and worth taking to a tournament. Do You think this is the best Dawi 2000p rooster for a tournament? Or there is sth different as well?
@@dragonsmok5247 I definitely think this is the strongest all rounder list for sure , try it out in some tester games and let me know if you enjoy it !
Hello dawi and thank you so much for this video ! I ll rewatch it multiple times maybe i could win my few next game. I tried to adapte your list in 1500pts. Drop some drake/anvil of doom and/longbeard. I think anvil of doom is a key for this list, without i would be much harder to win. What do you think? I was thinking you were puttin your runeforge in drake for gave them AB2/flamming attack and more magic resist, but after your explanition i understand why. I m always worry about beeing charged T2 on drake and loosing my big shooting unit. Am i the only one ? Im very hype about your next video :p. Maybe some image/plan/drawing could be very usefull too. As i said, thank so much ^^ and have a nice day.
Hope it helps mate ! So for me the anvil and bsb is pivotal ! The king can be taken out but you need at least one tanky hero to challenge out ! And keep the heros together !! Hope you smash people going forward !!
The more I watch your channel, the more inclined I am to play the game. The wargaming scene in Seattle, WA is a "puritan Games Workshop Only" club but its slowly changing. All the Boeing, Amazon, and Microsoft employees can afford GW, but the rest of us are moving into 3D prints.
@Hobbitonhold no, I mean corporate headquarters down in Seattle. I've been a midnight shift warehouse worker in Everett, WA. Terrible job and garbage pay.
Whats your take on drilling around the center? Are you playing 2 left 3 right or are you playing that you can load all 5 to one side, I've seen both played.
So I play it that is has to be as equal as possible so 2 on one then 3 on the other side , but I’m away there is a growing sect of people that play it that you can shift fully to one side and the command moves
Love them. Haven’t had a good Bret army for a long time ( WAP rules were pretty good). So I’m enjoying it. While I can. Lots of folks calling for bans and nerfs.
Very good video. Think I had a reasonable handle on how it worked, but certainly answered several of the questions I might have asked. One thing I have wondered about is how bothered you are about the big block getting charged while still in marching column. I guess it must be a bit case by case, but from listening it feels like most of the time if you're sending them up the field you're more likely to want the extra distance rather than sacrificing some of it to get them back into combat order? I'm guessing that it's often more important to stop stuff from being able to move out of the way than it is to worry too much about needing to do ever so well in the first round of combat or sometimes you have a good idea they won't charge you regardless as they want to shoot or chuck magic at you?
Hey mate , yeah usually what you are yeeting at wouldn’t be a strong combat unit or that would be coming at you right , if it is a combat unit that’s positioned miles away you can always use the second move from the anvil to fan out if you need to ,but like you said you don’t really need to win the first combat as it’s the grind that we win in !
15:25 I was under the impression that a follow up move was when you move to meet an enemy that gives ground, so if a dragon FBiGO's 1 or 2 inches that counts as a 1 or 2 inch charge so no bonus?
Great video! It's really interesting to see how different minds from different countries think about dwarfs performance One moment about challenges. Overkill works for champions too (check faq), so, usually you want to be in challenge by your lord Greetings from Russia, fellow Dawi)
I know it’s funny how different metas fo different armies , if you check the multi wound rule it does effect champions in challenges , overkill works but not multi wound so need to be careful as you can’t get full overkill on a unit champion with a king on sheild bearers unless you roll correctly :) hope your enjoying the army !
Since a Runesmith has armor bane(1) as a special rule, when he joins a unit and activates forge fire does that give the runesmith innate armor bane(3)?
pg 165, armorbane is a cumulative special rule, so you add all instances of it on a model together. dragon ogres have it as a profile rule so their GW's are ap4 on armorbane for example.
@@Dawiafterdark also if that character bild wold be scary for eaven a king? Waystalker [171 pts] - Hand weapon - Arcane Bodkins - Bow of Loren - A Muster Of Malevolents
So against empire take presivation on the anvil , and get the reroll buffs off and literally charge at them you’ll be able to charge them turn two if you get the movement spell off
Ws str and the fact you can use sheilds or great weopon, if you could take Sheilds on the RC warriors with ap 3 great weopons I would take them all day long !
@@patrickwilczek1097 so I’ve got event reports where I show footage from the end of each turn :) I’ve got a couple on here for events that I’ve won with this list aswell :)
If you check out Andy 2D6's recent tournament reports he always seems to end up playing against Richie and you get a more detailed version of those games there. That means Dwarfs vs Dwarfs - not traditionally something that leads to the best of games I think it's fair to say, but these ones have been surprisingly good. Andy doesn't do as well as Richie at the tournaments by any means, but his recent lists do give this one a fair bit of trouble which is interesting.
@@ClydeMillerWynant for sure line hammer is actually pretty tricky for us to deal with actually , I find mirror matches the hardest games actually haha
@@Dawiafterdark It's nice to see good games between Dwarfs and it looks like a tricky one for both sides. As an inveterate supporter of underdogs I'm afraid I have to say that I do hope he manages to pinch one of them soon!
imho this list can easily win with newbies and players that can't read an understand an enemy army. against a skilled player you will hardly win a match. as true as it is a nice stopper/draw list for team tournaments! anyway, this video is very informative and well exposed. bravo!
Hahaha I pronounced it with the soft rolling g a few month’s ago and people didn’t know what I was talking about 😂 I had to resort to the common tongue my brother !
@@Dawiafterdark When you're next on his channel you should start pronouncing things like 'Giant', 'Gigantic Spawn of Chaos' etc with the 'g's all wrong. 'Gaze of the Gods' would perhaps be the best one.
I've never heard someone use the word "suddenly" so much in such a short amount of time. Its been said 10 times and I'm not even 8 minutes in. Suddenly the topic of Dwarf Royal Clans isn't even interesting and I want to just keep track of how often the word is used, in total. Talk about playing Mind Games with your opponent just start talking and saying "Suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, suddenly" everyone would think you're acting like the Rain Man.
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Dawi after dark [1996 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Dwarfen Mountain Holds, Royal Clan
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++ Characters [978 pts] ++
Anvil of Doom [360 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Shields
- Heavy armour
- Master Rune of Adamant
- Rune of Spellbreaking
Runesmith [279 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Great weapon
- Full plate armour
- Shield
- Battle Standard Bearer [Master Rune of Grungni + Rune of Battle]
- 3x Rune of Spellbreaking
King [339 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Great weapon
- Full plate armour
- General
- Shieldbearers
- Master Rune of Smiting
- Master Rune of Gromril
- Rune of Preservation
- Rune of the Furnace
++ Core Units [513 pts] ++
28 Longbeards [513 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Great weapons
- Heavy armour
- Shields
- Drilled (0-1 unit per 1000 points)
- Elder (champion) [Rune of Passage + Rune of the Furnace]
- Standard bearer [Strollaz' Rune + Rune of Battle + Rune of Courage]
- Musician
++ Special Units [160 pts] ++
Dwarf Cart [65 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Bugman's Cart
Grudge Thrower [95 pts]
- Stone thrower
- Hand weapons
- Light armour
++ Rare Units [345 pts] ++
18 Irondrakes [345 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Drakeguns
- Full plate armour
- Drilled (0-1 unit per 1000 points)
- Ironwarden (champion) [Trollhammer torpedo + Cinderblast bombs]
- Standard bearer [Rune of Courage]
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Created with "Old World Builder"
[old-world-builder.com]
This instructional video on how to play a particular list is MOST educational. Thank you. Keep experimenting as always.
Thank you ! Glad you enjoyed it ! Don’t worry i will keep coming up with stupid ideas to try on the tabletop haha
@@DawiafterdarkOf course, the best video by Close Order to date is the one which interviewed you after you won your first tournaments with your original grand army list. You are very good at explaining why you prefer particular units and describing the synergies between them.
@@mrsnakesmrnot8499 well I will take that as a massive compliment! Thank you !
OMG - this is so useful! It really suits my aggressive style of play. Thanks!!
It’s a really fun list to play !!
Can't say I'm thrilled by the amount of people trying to emulate your lists at events I'm attending, these 2 massive blocks are certainly tough to shift!
Really appreciate your videos though, it is great to get so many insights in what goes on in a top player's list-building and tactics.
Also I never knew about multiple-wounds not counting for overkill on unit champions - learn everyday!
Thanks mate ! Really appreciate it and glad you enjoy it ! I would count you in the top players mind mate ! Yeah it’s on page 175 of the rulebook , most people haven’t read it , just means you can be very strategic with challenges against heros with the ogre blade that aren’t on a dragon for instance :)
@@Dawiafterdark cheers mate, I think there is still a bit of a gap, but I’m doing my best to close it!
Also, I didn’t comment on your other video, but I have two cats myself that are getting into senior territory, and I do want to share my sympathies with you. I can’t imagine what it will be like to have to say goodbye, and until then, I will cherish every day that we get to cuddle!
Loved the details in this episode, as a software engineer I love analyzing and attention to details. The strategy to use with respect to the units, characters, and magic item combinations alltogether is a lot of excellent details that I have listened to this through a couple times now and took notes!
Glad you enjoyed it !!
Thanks for another video Ritchie! Just gettng into the game from accross the pond, cant wait for your beginner vids! Nearly finished with my stunty army and you've helped tremendously learning how everything works! ROCK AND STONE!
@@Hoodoo102thank you !!!! Yyyess ! Hope you have a great time with it ! Welcome to the holds !!! Rock and stone !
Great video thanks, looks simple on paper but its a very technical list. Irondrakes are so damn good, I had fun charging 40 zombies into a unit of 16 on a hill in casual game last week and the entire unit evaporated from C&S, combat and crumble. Epic.
Haha yeah it’s a fun list so many working parts too it and I think people who just run dragons underestimate it , nice man love to see that haha
I don’t play the game (yet), I am in the painting process 😅
I am not going to play Dwarves, but I really love that you share your wisdom.
(Would be cool if every faction had someone like you 🎉)
Hopefully you enjoy it when you play it ! What army do you play ? I am trying to get faction experts on from every faction so they can give breakdowns so that hopefully will help !
@@Dawiafterdark I am working on a Vampire Army (Painted 40 zombies). I know I will enjoy it - I play board games and Kill Team - and after watching a lot of Battle reports- I am sure:)
And this is the game I could not afford as a kid/teen - so now I am taking revenge :)
The only thing that worries a noob like me is my friend is playing demons - and I have looked at the rules - and I really don’t know how I could handle a Bloodthirster 🥹 with the Vampires.
Trophies looking nice in the background!
Haha cheers mate , just incase people didn’t believe the dwarfs could pull it off haha
Thanks for making this video for me! ;)
I have definitely had some push back on the Anvil being Toughness 10 at all times.
Well I hope this helps ! I don’t understand the pushback the wording is model 😂
@@Dawiafterdark Yeah but it has two different toughness values and two different wound pools. I can see both sides, and is very much what the FAQ should be for.
@@Zenfoxgames I find it funny people people will argue against everything that dwarfs can do but killing blow going over to a wound caused by a dukes shield is fine haha . I think people secretly fear the dawi
First of all, sorry for your loss...
I'm glad that you're back at the start
and give very good tips and food for thought.
Your view of WtOW is very professional.
Your nomination as captain for the English team is absolutely justified.
Good luck and keep it up.
Go Richy Go Dawi
Thank you I really appreciate it , been a tough week for sure so thought I’d try and throw myself back in headfirst to keep busy . Thank you , I really enjoy the game and really like finding combos that other people haven’t thought of or tried yet . Some of them I’ve tried definitely haven’t worked mind haha . But warts and all I love this game I hope that comes across :) and thank you mate ! It’s a privilege!
For the dawi !!
So satisfying squad wiping a unit of silverhelms with the anvils wrath and ruin yesterday, most underated magic missile
I honestly think the anvil spells are some of the best in the game … even if they are runes … not magic … not magic I tell you haha
'Magic' sounds Umgak to me
Thanks Richy, your videos are always very helpful and I look forward to your beginner series. I've stopped taking the Master Rune of Adamant on the anvil as my play group seems to like big deathstars of poison shooting, so the T10 doesn't seem to matter much.
Gromril and preservation will be your friend then ! Remeber the anvil isn’t a large target so if you screen it they can’t poison it :)
I wore my DaD swag the other night at game night and I think it really was a psychological advantage because when I yeeted my Hammerers up my opponent was already calling out the stolen tactic from Richy (all in good cheer, love the content brother) P.S. I know, your way is better but I painted my hammerers up early on and they are still my big unit. Could agree more on the runesmith build. So good.
Hahaha yes !!!! Love to see it mate ! Always so satisfying when the yeet works ! And glad you like the merch !! I love hammerers so much I just wish they were core with a king in the army so bad !!
Great video! „No model can move more than double its movement“ does this mean best we can do in overrun is 6 (8 with cart).
I overlook that until now!
@@nonquisquan so the one exception is just charges and overruns :) so your all good don’t worry !
I just watch a 40 min video to listen to the outro song (while i was painting my shield bearer)
Hahaha well that’s for watching !!! ⛏️⛏️
Hey, love your videos and my dwarfs won against an army of Bretonnians last week with your tatics.
I just wanted to suggest maybe you can use photos of your dwarf miniatures as thumbnail for videos. I think your models look stunning.
@@heeseunglee6605 love it well done !! Thanks for the suggestion il give a go !!
@@heeseunglee6605 and thank you I really appreciate it !
Another banger video! Loved the content. Amazingly helpful.
Can you link that company that does the Drilled movement trays?
@@IronbearClan www.minimagtray.co.uk/product/25mm-minimagtray-rapid-reform-square-copy/
Here you go mate ! Thanks mate I’m glad you enjoyed it !! Rock and stone !!
Just ordered a cart, grudge thrower and Anvil (Highland minatures of course).
Also agree that trollhammer torpedos do nothing 😅
@@ay2deet578 yesss !!! Rock and stone !!!! They just never do anything do they 😂😂
Oh man.... a 40min video by dawi after dark? Is it my birthday or something?
Hope you enjoyed it mate ! :) Hope your well !
Great video - well explained!
Thank you very much !
Top video, great to share tactics and learning 💪
Thank you ! Glad you enjoyed it ! Rock and stone !!!
its funny to me how similar our philosophy are, but how diffrent our lists are. i worked on a point denial list too, but mine is more MSU styled. i launch my characters with ironbreakers forward. while multiple unit of warriors and rangers defending my flanks. starting today i'll feel alot more confidente in my list after seen yours.
I love a good points denial it’s out strongest tactic with infantry in my opinion:) nice I’d love to see the list
@@Dawiafterdark I don't claim to play as competitive a list as yours. We play 2250 points in my local group. Arcane Journals are allowed, but I don’t use them myself out of solidarity with the Legacy factions.
I try to dominate one flank with my Rangers, Ironbreakers, and Gyrocopters by advancing aggressively. Meanwhile, my Dwarf Warriors and Longbeards hold the other flank. When I advance in a marching column, I hope to get charged and lose the marching column formation and gain my rank bonus.
Just like you, I use my war machines to take out easy-support units. I’ve found myself valuing armor over strength, making it hard for my opponent to score points unless they bring the right tools for the job. My Warriors with shields surprise me every time with how well they hold the line.
SDA Dwarf 2250 point army 05/01-25
Characters
Anvil of Doom 235
Master Rune of Adamant +100
335
King 125
Great weapon +4
Shield bearers +60
3x Rune of Fury +75
Master Rune of Gromril +45
Rune of Furnace +5
314
Thane 60
Shield +2
Master rune of Grungni +80
2x Runes of Battle +50
192
Total 841 Characters
Core
16x Dwarf warriors 128
Full command +15
Shield +16
159
16x Longbeards 192
Full command +18
Great weapon +16
226
16x Rangers 176
Full command +18
Shield +16
210
Total 595 Core
Special
15x Iron Breakers 225
Drilled +15
Bearer +7
Rune of Battle +25
Strollaz’ Rune +25
297
Gyrocopter 60
Brimstone Gun +5
65
Gyrocopter 60
Brimstone Gun +5
65
Grudge Thrower
95
Cannon 100
100
total 622 Special
Rare
5x Iron drakes 75
Champion +6
Trollhammer torpedo +15
96
5x Iron drakes 75
Champion +6
Trollhammer torpedo +15
96
Total 192 Rare
total 2250 point
98 wounds
I absolutely love your content. Its an easy insta click when your vids come up! Im trying to save my money for the incoming high elf release but you're always tempting me with dwarves!
Again, keep up the amazing content and thank you for your contribution to the hobby!!
Thank you so much !! Really appreciate it I hope you’re still enjoying it ! Come one come join the real good guys of the old world !!!
Thank you for the great content on TOW! I appreciate the time you take to explain your reasoning behind the unit and rune choices.
I was curious, given that this list is so few units and heavy on points denial, if you've seen anyone having success with a multiple small unit (msu) approach in TOW?
Thank you ! Glad you enjoyed it ! I’ve been using the list for a couple of monthes so just wanted to share my thoughts on the whys , as people don’t normally share that :) so msu can work really well into some armys , but does struggle into monsters , and my meta here is just saturated with them !
Hi Richie, great video as always! Do poison attacks wound automatically on the Anvil? Just love this list! I am loling out loud at how OP that Dwarf King is! Make our enemies FEAR US!! !LOVE IT
So the short answer is yes ,, but it’s not a large target so you can screen it yourself stop poison shooting . I know right ! I love the fact people fear the king !!!
@@Dawiafterdark Yeah screening is key! Thanks man! Have to try your list and make my friends upset! Ill hug it out afterwards and buy them a beer haha
Hi Richie! When are you covering the yeet* and drilled tactics!?I am attending a small tournament on Sunday the 2nd Feb! My Dawi army is super inspired by your army list so i would like to understand better how to get to my enemy if I come accross a gunline! Tnx in advance
@@noobiesnacks1636 right leave it with me !
@ Cheers man! if you cant dont worry! Im sure Ill be grand :)
Love the video, been waiting for an in-depth look at the royal clans and am exited to run this list with my collection.
Only thing I’m considering changing is running a bolt thrower with rune of skewering and reloading.
have you had any experience or success with bolt throwers? Considering they are BS 3, id assume they are as much of a gamble as the grudge thrower.
Many thanks!
Thank you ! Glad you enjoyed it ! I actually like the bolt throwers , skewering is lovely , I killed an entire unit of chosen knights in one shot before with one haha , if you run it position it on an extreme flank so you can get flank shots ! But yes very much a gamble !
Great video, as always. Keep it up!
@@RuneforgedWargaming cheers mate appreciate it . Hope you’re enjoying the dwarfs !
@ Definitely am. First tourney league game is on Wednesday. Using a list very similar to yours.
Nice enjoy bro ! And good luck !
Excellent video!
Cheers mate
Awesome !! Very excited about this! Question @ 2:47 you mention you need to roll a 7 on two dice to hit the more powerful version of oath and steel. Just checking cause I thought it was 8. Also in my game yesterday my troll torpedoes either rolled a 1 to hit or 1 to wound lol.
@@Husker44g it’s 8 I misspoke and didn’t catch it in the editing ! Sorry mate ! Hope you enjoy the video mate
@@Dawiafterdark All good man, just thought I might have missed a bonus or something. There's so much going on in that list. I'm having just the best experience with it.
I wish ! That’s on me brother ! It’s great fun isn’t it !!! Glad you’re enjoying it !
Also torpedoes are a nightmare aren’t they ! Hahaha
Haha Im glad to hear it’s not just my Trollhammers that aren’t behaving, I run 3 units of 5 Irondrakes to maximise the trollhammers, last tournament my Rangers held their ground against a Stardragon, Dragon lost, Did a FBIGO, I held back to shoot with everything, I had 3 Trollhammers hitting on 2+, wounding on 2+, rolled for hits I rolled 2 1s, and to wound I rolled a 1 🤦♂️ 2 rounds in a row 🤦♂️
It’s so annoying isn’t it every time I shout trollhammer it’s a 1 , every time hahaha
Another great video that list is tough :)
Cheers mate ! Haha it’s a fun one though for sure
I played with my mate last Thursday because he's going to the Welsh open with bretonnia and my king still hasn't not been defeated in combat.
Yes !!!! Love to see it !
Funny and original army composition! Did you try rangers insted irondrkes? Can be an option?
Yeah it’s tried most varients this is just what works for me :)
Good stuff Richy- love the smite king. Here’s a Q: the royal clan +1S: does it work on follow ups (pursuits?) from enemy’s FBIGO of less than 3”?
Not sure about the king not challenging champions: 7 CR, all but guaranteed, is better than killing 2-3 normal mooks for 2-3 CR?
@@farlanewhitty1149 thank you ! Yes mate , it works on any follow up :)
@@Dawiafterdark - Cheers for the reply! I'm not sure that's right (but prepared to be corrected!). I think you technically "pursue" after FBIGO, which counts as a charge if you hit an enemy, but which further means you need to go 3" to trigger Ancerstral Fury, becasue its a charge. "Follow up" is, I think, only ued if the enemy Give Ground. It's worth checking I think!
Sorry it got ruled here so long ago by TOs I’d forgotten , so most events will count the FBIGO as a follow up for this skill :) always worth asking your TO but I’d forgotten that was even the actual wording haha
@ - nice one! thanks for clarifying man. A sesnible approach. I have been playing that it doesn't just to be conservative.
It’s worth asking beforehand but most TOs are fine with FBigos being classed as a follow up “counts as charging “
Does the new faq mean that the iron drakes can panic beasts and swarms that are immune to psych normally?
So I wouldn’t say they would panic but they would definitely have to do a fear check in combat !
Great Video. Hope you are felling slowly better. I have two situations, where i struggle with list build decisions. I have lost a few fun battles against one opponent with lizarmen or skaven, while i had a pretty balanced standard army, and he said i have to take either much more artillery or more smaller blocks of infantry. not sure how to act on that. also what do you think about a list with ironbrekers and irondrakes as detachment together with miner's cart? Is it possible to pull off or will this be to stationary?
Thank you ! Getting there . Appreciate it just trying to keep super busy . What was your list ?
I actually try different ones, yet they all seem to point into a scheme of balance. This one i used against his skaven and lost.
++ Characters [996 pts] ++
King [314 pts]
(Hand weapon, Great weapon, Full plate armour, General, Shieldbearers, Master Rune of Smiting, Rune of Fury, Rune of Preservation)
Thane [212 pts]
(Hand weapon, Full plate armour, Shield, Battle Standard Bearer [Master Rune of Grungni], On foot, Rune of Fortitude, Rune of Shielding)
Thane [138 pts]
(Hand weapon, Handgun, Full plate armour, Shield, On foot, Master Rune of Bursting Flame, Rune of Accuracy, Rune of Rapid Fire)
Runesmith [97 pts]
(Hand weapon, Great weapon, Full plate armour, Rune of Spellbreaking)
Anvil of Doom [235 pts]
(Hand weapons, Shields, Heavy armour)
++ Core Units [556 pts] ++
20 Royal Clan Warriors [258 pts]
(Hand weapons, Shields, Heavy armour, Drilled, Stubborn, Royal Clan Veteran, Standard bearer, Musician)
20 Longbeards [298 pts]
(Hand weapons, Great weapons, Heavy armour, Shields, Elder (champion), Standard bearer, Musician)
++ Special Units [225 pts] ++
Grudge Thrower [115 pts]
(Stone thrower, Hand weapons, Light armour, Rune of Forging, Rune of Reloading)
Grudge Thrower [110 pts]
(Stone thrower, Hand weapons, Light armour, Rune of Forging)
++ Rare Units [222 pts] ++
5 Irondrakes [111 pts]
(Hand weapons, Drakeguns, Full plate armour, Ironwarden (champion) [Trollhammer torpedo + Cinderblast bombs])
5 Irondrakes [111 pts]
(Hand weapons, Drakeguns, Full plate armour, Ironwarden (champion) [Trollhammer torpedo + Cinderblast bombs])
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@ hmmm I really like that list I think maybe combine the drakes into a bigger unit , drop one of the grudge throwers to get more drakes aswell
hey there, great summary! One rules questions - how come multiple wounds do not work against unit champions in a challenge to generate overkill CR? Can't seem to find any rule which would prevent that.
Hey mate :) it’s on page 175 of the main rulebook it’s one of those little rules nobody has read haha
@@Dawiafterdark Indeed it is, thank you!
@@michapiatkiewicz8873 no problem at all :) most people
Have missed it to be honest :)
@@Dawiafterdark yeah, and imho it's a bit counterintuitive - I wonder if it's actually rules as intended.
Hey! Great list, being totally honest I dropped playing DMH and started playing CHD coz my first games with DMH were pitiful. But this seems really great and worth taking to a tournament. Do You think this is the best Dawi 2000p rooster for a tournament? Or there is sth different as well?
@@dragonsmok5247 I definitely think this is the strongest all rounder list for sure , try it out in some tester games and let me know if you enjoy it !
Hello dawi and thank you so much for this video ! I ll rewatch it multiple times maybe i could win my few next game.
I tried to adapte your list in 1500pts. Drop some drake/anvil of doom and/longbeard. I think anvil of doom is a key for this list, without i would be much harder to win. What do you think?
I was thinking you were puttin your runeforge in drake for gave them AB2/flamming attack and more magic resist, but after your explanition i understand why.
I m always worry about beeing charged T2 on drake and loosing my big shooting unit. Am i the only one ?
Im very hype about your next video :p. Maybe some image/plan/drawing could be very usefull too.
As i said, thank so much ^^ and have a nice day.
Hope it helps mate ! So for me the anvil and bsb is pivotal ! The king can be taken out but you need at least one tanky hero to challenge out ! And keep the heros together !! Hope you smash people going forward !!
@@Dawiafterdark Ok i ll try to find a good list base on you list but in 1500pts :)
The more I watch your channel, the more inclined I am to play the game. The wargaming scene in Seattle, WA is a "puritan Games Workshop Only" club but its slowly changing. All the Boeing, Amazon, and Microsoft employees can afford GW, but the rest of us are moving into 3D prints.
@@gotrekgurnisson9934 I hope you end up playing it it’s a great game ! And the 3d prints you can get for it are stunning aswell !
Amazon as in warehouse workers? It's shite over here xD
@Hobbitonhold no, I mean corporate headquarters down in Seattle. I've been a midnight shift warehouse worker in Everett, WA. Terrible job and garbage pay.
Whats your take on drilling around the center? Are you playing 2 left 3 right or are you playing that you can load all 5 to one side, I've seen both played.
So I play it that is has to be as equal as possible so 2 on one then 3 on the other side , but I’m away there is a growing sect of people that play it that you can shift fully to one side and the command moves
Great video my friend. Lots of good info. Great now my Bret’s are going to worry …… I’m sure my dwarf friend is taking notes 📝. 😳
Thank you mate ! Appreciate it ! Hahaha hopefully they don’t take too many notes haha , how are you finding the brets ?
Love them. Haven’t had a good Bret army for a long time ( WAP rules were pretty good). So I’m enjoying it. While I can. Lots of folks calling for bans and nerfs.
We're all richer with knowledge from Richie ❤
Really appreciate that mate !
Very good video. Think I had a reasonable handle on how it worked, but certainly answered several of the questions I might have asked.
One thing I have wondered about is how bothered you are about the big block getting charged while still in marching column. I guess it must be a bit case by case, but from listening it feels like most of the time if you're sending them up the field you're more likely to want the extra distance rather than sacrificing some of it to get them back into combat order? I'm guessing that it's often more important to stop stuff from being able to move out of the way than it is to worry too much about needing to do ever so well in the first round of combat or sometimes you have a good idea they won't charge you regardless as they want to shoot or chuck magic at you?
Hey mate , yeah usually what you are yeeting at wouldn’t be a strong combat unit or that would be coming at you right , if it is a combat unit that’s positioned miles away you can always use the second move from the anvil to fan out if you need to ,but like you said you don’t really need to win the first combat as it’s the grind that we win in !
15:25 I was under the impression that a follow up move was when you move to meet an enemy that gives ground, so if a dragon FBiGO's 1 or 2 inches that counts as a 1 or 2 inch charge so no bonus?
@@williamgreenway1129 no that’s classed as a follow up mate , you just count as charging :)
Great video! It's really interesting to see how different minds from different countries think about dwarfs performance
One moment about challenges. Overkill works for champions too (check faq), so, usually you want to be in challenge by your lord
Greetings from Russia, fellow Dawi)
I know it’s funny how different metas fo different armies , if you check the multi wound rule it does effect champions in challenges , overkill works but not multi wound so need to be careful as you can’t get full overkill on a unit champion with a king on sheild bearers unless you roll correctly :) hope your enjoying the army !
@Dawiafterdark you open my eyes! Thank you so much!
No problem at all :)
8:30 what about peski wood elfs with poison spam?
If you screen the anvil they can’t shoot it it’s not a large target , also poisons doesn’t work well into dwarfs as there isn’t much ap
Since a Runesmith has armor bane(1) as a special rule, when he joins a unit and activates forge fire does that give the runesmith innate armor bane(3)?
Just for the runesmith yes :)
Are you sure that Armourbane (1) from the Great Weapon of the King and Armourbane (2) from the Runesmith are adding together?
@@Stormoak yes mate 100 percent , it specifically says in the rulebook that armour-bane stacks unlike other rules such as magic resist :)
pg 165, armorbane is a cumulative special rule, so you add all instances of it on a model together. dragon ogres have it as a profile rule so their GW's are ap4 on armorbane for example.
@@williamgreenway1129 which is super tasty
Hi Can you glue on bsb on a king on shield bearers or say it has one? Or buy another model without one?
@@aubreygarcia6798 honestly I’d just glue it on then you can say it’s both it’s fine in my opinion:)
@ thank you 🙏
hmm is way wather abilty to snipe heros might be finaly usfull model hereo????? in wood elfs ?
intreisng if cold snipe the king or rune smith?
I think the runesmith would be the best to snipe I think
@@Dawiafterdark also if that character bild wold be scary for eaven a king?
Waystalker [171 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Arcane Bodkins
- Bow of Loren
- A Muster Of Malevolents
Does anybody has a hint for me, how to play vs very defensive playing empire with great cannons? With drilled formation we are very vulnerable here…
So against empire take presivation on the anvil , and get the reroll buffs off and literally charge at them you’ll be able to charge them turn two if you get the movement spell off
Hello is your dawi after dark song available in Spotify?
@@anthonycruz2277 so it isn’t currently I will try to upload it :)
Is there a particular strong suit that longbeards can perform that RC warriors don't? The big advantage on them is their WS and S right?
Ws str and the fact you can use sheilds or great weopon, if you could take Sheilds on the RC warriors with ap 3 great weopons I would take them all day long !
@@Dawiafterdark oh my god is it either/or??
This whole time I thought I was paying to give them both.
@ unfortunately the rc is warriors are either or
Did you record or participated in any recorded battle reports that can be seen on youtube? Just curious to see this army in an actual game.
@@patrickwilczek1097 so I’ve got event reports where I show footage from the end of each turn :) I’ve got a couple on here for events that I’ve won with this list aswell :)
If you check out Andy 2D6's recent tournament reports he always seems to end up playing against Richie and you get a more detailed version of those games there. That means Dwarfs vs Dwarfs - not traditionally something that leads to the best of games I think it's fair to say, but these ones have been surprisingly good. Andy doesn't do as well as Richie at the tournaments by any means, but his recent lists do give this one a fair bit of trouble which is interesting.
@@ClydeMillerWynant for sure line hammer is actually pretty tricky for us to deal with actually , I find mirror matches the hardest games actually haha
@@Dawiafterdark It's nice to see good games between Dwarfs and it looks like a tricky one for both sides. As an inveterate supporter of underdogs I'm afraid I have to say that I do hope he manages to pinch one of them soon!
Any chance of getting Luna on for a dwarf episode?
Il ask her :)
Its weird how religiously i watch these i dont even play dwarfs :D
Well I really appreciate it !
I'm a knife ear Ahahahah but I even subscribed 😅
Maybe I can like a couple of knife ears … but you never heard me say that …
@@Dawiafterdark ahahahahah 😂😂😂
Appreciate you ! Even if you are an elgi
Don't you think that rune of hesitation is worth taking on your longbeards?
@@gobos1186 so it’s amazing ! It’s too good it makes people
Not engage with you I’ve found .
@@Dawiafterdark so that's how you get the dragons to fight you 🤣
Haha yeah pretty much 😅😅 mind games .. bait them in !
I hate you! Your channel is making me want to play dwarfs! Great work!
@@Qu33ker hahah yes !!! Come
Play some Dwarfs !!
imho this list can easily win with newbies and players that can't read an understand an enemy army. against a skilled player you will hardly win a match. as true as it is a nice stopper/draw list for team tournaments! anyway, this video is very informative and well exposed. bravo!
Glad you enjoyed the video , I’ve found the list pretty good at events personally. Does struggle vrs wood elves though
Please pronounce Grungni correctly, it hurts my ears to hear someone who calls themselves a dwarf pronouncing it like an elf!
Hahaha I pronounced it with the soft rolling g a few month’s ago and people didn’t know what I was talking about 😂 I had to resort to the common tongue my brother !
@@Dawiafterdark Have you managed to get Ed to pronounce 'gyrocopter' properly yet?
@ that’s never going to happen ,I think he does it out of spite
@@Dawiafterdark When you're next on his channel you should start pronouncing things like 'Giant', 'Gigantic Spawn of Chaos' etc with the 'g's all wrong.
'Gaze of the Gods' would perhaps be the best one.
How are you supposed to pronounce it?
I've never heard someone use the word "suddenly" so much in such a short amount of time. Its been said 10 times and I'm not even 8 minutes in. Suddenly the topic of Dwarf Royal Clans isn't even interesting and I want to just keep track of how often the word is used, in total. Talk about playing Mind Games with your opponent just start talking and saying "Suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, suddenly" everyone would think you're acting like the Rain Man.