If it's AI-powered then it's highly recommended to have dedicated modules or cores otherwise it will eat into resorces the console needs for general rasterisation.
Because it's unlikely that PS5 Pro actually forces the games to render at a higher resolution (games built on old SDKs simply don't have this option). It's probably just PSSR sharpening up the image and that's a feature exclusive to the Pro.
That's up to the devs. Microsoft tried doing in on their own and it caused resolution issues and they eventually stopped. There are just too many games to patch
@@RandomGamingMoments925 It's up to Sony. Fromsoft (Miyazaki) put out a statement that they are more than happy to do something with the game, but it's up to Sony to grant them permission to do so
Many people here in Brazil are already receiving the console for some reason, there is even a channel where a Brazilian did a complete teardown of the console.
That is a retail store and not a customer - all retailers have the console now. That store in Brazil broke the Sony PS embargo in showcasing the console early and when Sony find out who they are I doubt they will have a business relationship with them in the future...
I would love to just get a 60fps patch for RDR2 and Knight. Always thought Rockstar would skip a patch and pull a GTAV next-gen edition with RDR2 though.
@@tmoney360 this is not the issue with the console but the game itself is cap at 30 fps u can run the game well if you got 144 hz tv I'm getting one for my ps5 pro tho coz it needs ghahahahah game run's smooth better if you got higher refresh rate monitor or tv only 60hz will look choppy ofc but on 144 and 30 fps is no issue better movements just game will look more cinematic like that because cinema itself is at 24 fps so they need to patch the rdr2 a remaster would do game is insanely beautiful!
@@jc4446 It's a totally run of the mill shooter, but nowadays that feel like it's exceeding. Love Order. It's just a simple, fun shooter with awesome attention to detail and a cool ass setting and characters.
@@phant0mdummyyou are absolutely right. Gaming is so lackluster nowadays that games like the order that was shitted on when released are now getting praise
@@28_SpokesI never play any souls games I just seen it on his channel and online I’m just curious on why it’s most popular in the community it’s more popular then anything recently ps4 game
Honestly that spec sheet for PS5 pro means nothing to me. Time and time again we are seeing how well PS5 run games despite "inferior" specs. The software matters more when they find the know how and optimize it. PS5 pro is gonna surprise people again.
@@talion7268and don't forget this game is already optimized as hell, it's not possible to increase the fidelity/performance more. This game is already a beast in optimization, especially on PC. So it's definitely a Console Software&Hardware issue
@@David-nq8cv NVIDIA leak years ago had a PS5 remaster on the list. After the disaster that was Kill the Justice League I imagine it’s probably what they’re working on now to try to claw some money back
Yes. And complete them „right“ + not rush through them. I‘m still busy with the awesome 2023 games. Then i saved some DLCs for the end of the year like the ones from RE4 Remake, Alan Wake 2 or Forbidden West 🙂👌.
Yeah, it's a pretty silly complaint. Not only because of the impossibly enormous amount of games available, but also because devs/publishers would gladly have 10x times the amount of games released out there to keep selling more and more to people who would buy anything just because it's new. They definitely are not sitting around refusing to make money from those whales.
It's still early to say. I'm sure some games will look better than others. But at the end of the day it's a PS4 game. If it doesn't get an FPS patch, then you're not going to really notice too much different. Honestly you could probably just increase the sharpness on your TV for certain PS4 games and get the exact same effect. But still cool that it's there.
This makes me more excited to get the 5 pro. I assumed it would be a title by title basis where maybe Sony would patch some PS4 games. But to have ALL ps4 games be sharpened is pretty nice.
The problem with increasing the resolution on these older games is, that often they don’t actually look better because the games haven’t been designed for higher resolutions so it just looks like you’re applying a sharpening filter
Nah, the problem is that the resolution is not actually increased, it _is_ mostly a sharpening filter. The consoles can't force these games to run at higher resolutions, there's just no option to. If you saw any videos of PS2 or PS3 emulation at 4k, those games look _vastly_ different and kind of uncanny actually. In some cases it's amazing how much art detail even the original PS1 games had that is now much more perceivable in 4k.
a sharpening pass doens't look bad unless it leaves more pronounced aliasing though. That's one of the best things about DLSS. It resolves such a good image and has such good antialiasing, you can run a mild sharpening pass over it which really makes the image pop
Sometimes. More often than not, the higher resolution is better. This is more obvious the older the game. For example, upscaling Dreamcast games is a must.
So basically. We got our PS4 Pro features back. Enhance image quality = Replaced Supersampling but the same thing. Boost Mode = Boost Mode. Means Dead Island 2 and FF7 remake (PS4 Version's) will now look pretty like the PS4 Pro. Because right now both of those games only play in 1080p on Base PS5. It's pretty crappy. I'll also be testing out my entire list of Physical PS4 games (Not the PS5 Version's)
My opinion and few others i spoke with at work....we sticking too our original ps5. No need for us too upgrade unless Sony decides too drop the price later on. But by then, might as well wait on ps6. But yea,our ps5 is fine and im happy with keeping what i got. I respect those who got money and just wanna stay up to date etc, (,i do that with Samsung phones) but imma enjoy sticking with my original ps5 for now.
I'm under the impression no one should buy a ps6 at launch, just wait for the ps6 pro. I just bought a ps5 because I thought it wouldn't happen this time; yeah know, i was naive.
@@elChirrinChirriondelDiabloi waited for the pro but was disappointed by the improvements and the price so I purchased the slim 30th anniversary edition instead.
They should do a toggle for enhance image of PS4 games by default and then a screen to apply exceptions to specific games either in this menu or in the game info from homepage, because at this state you will have to change every time you play a specific game that doesn't work then turn back on
I’m laughing at everyone because I grew up playing 15 fps games on ps1 😅 honestly anything 30 fps and over is solid for me , 60 fps is mind blowing … but I don’t doubt these things will sell pretty quick , I’m good with my slim for now ,
I can almost see Sony doing something for the PS6 where they advertise like, "Enhance your classic PS4 library!" And the console will have some kind of tool that, when running PS4 titles, it will boost the native output resolution to 4K and unlock the framerate. Just because I imagine the CPU and GPU will be probably the equivalent of 2025 i7s and the highest 2025 Radeon GPU, whenever that decides to come out (Since console's are typically about 2 or 3 years behind top spec PCs).
I have the PS5 Pro and a PS4 game where I felt an interesting difference was Kingdom Come Deliverance, which was very blurry and now the image is "cleaner".
I bet Mass Effect Legendary looks incredible. I played on PS4, PS4 Pro, and PS5. Each console was a significant and noticeable boost for the exact same copy of the game. I'd be curious for PS5 Pro
It was thought it would be boost mode like the PS4 Pro, where it helped games reach their framerate and resolution targets (for games with dynamic resolution).
This was quite disappointing. I would have preferred that they did something to make ps4 games run at least 60fps consistently. If they manage to do that, then they can get my money
i heard that bloodborne will not be able to run at 60fps on console because the apparently the framerate is tied to the games engine which would require them to pretty much redo the source code which sony and fromsoftware doesn't want to do. so maybe sony opted to do a remake like demon souls.
@@LCJammer Dark Souls 3 runs on the exact same engine and was patched to run at 60FPS on both PS4 Pro/PS5 and Xbox Series X/S. Someone online has also provided evidence that Bloodborne could run at 60FPS with the same patch applied as Dark Souls 3.
@@lutherh6090 there's' a df video talking about this "Bloodborne 60fps Hack Tested! 1080p, 900p, 720p - Can We Lock to 60fps?" this is probably where i got that the game was never meant for 60fps gameplay because it was hardcoded for 30fps. very interesting video.
Then don't buy it.. It's not for you if you can't afford it or don't want it cool.. I remember I wanted things I couldn't afford and I would look for any reason not to buy it to make myself feel better about not having it.
THis is what we should have got 4 years ago. Next gen should have started now. Now if you start a game it won't be ready till the PS6 comes out which is hilarious!
This console is such a yawn to me like it really feels scammy. Anyone shelling out for this better have the TV and calibration to match, or else what are we doing?
After MFID leaked the information about the PS5 Pro, Digital Foundry added one extra bit of information which was that the system had more available memory for dev use vs the base PS5 so it makes sense that it actually has a couple of gigs of DDR5 thrown in to offload basic system tasks as the PS4 Pro used this same trick to great effect.
Remember, PSSR is geared towards upscaling resolution (R) not necessarily improving performance. You're paying a premium just to look at slightly prettier things on-screen with practically the same frame rates as on base PS5.
Speaking of the AI upscaling enhancements the PS5 can provide to older PS4 titles.. Some mentioned it's better to have dedicated modules for AI upscaling which I understand. However.. It doesn't take that much to force the PS5 to render the game, in this example Bloodborne at a higher resolution without the AI upscaling.. Bloodborne at 1440p for the normal PS5 in pure rasterization is something I can't imagine it not being able to do.
The whole ps5/ps5 pro thing has finally convinced me to switch to pc. It's sad to see Sony make so many anti-consuner choices in a row. The PS5 hardware has barely been utilized and now they're trying to force people into buying another expensive console to get features we should have on the ps5. It's been a good run, but I'll be waiting for any Sony exclusives to come to Steam now.
They've always been anti-consumer, but now theres zero reason to stay behind while everyone else eats freely. Just get ryzen 7000 series and up if you want to do rpcs3
@@spiltcoff33 If you know what you're doing its only a bit more for a nice rig. Then you're stuck with many times the power/longevity and no monopoly taxes
While people are complaining about their backlog of games yet continue to keep buying more games or consoles. what’s the point of getting a $700 console with no disc drive and barely any difference. I’m fine with my ps5 slim.
@@Noa15Lv more likely the kind of gamer with both the disposable income as well as engagement in the PlayStation ecosystem are exactly the kind of gamer who really do their research and do watch all these TH-cam videos in making up their mind? 🙄 Also, get off your high horse.
@@user-jr7bb6g9ev dude… I am getting the console. And if you have a different console it’s not as powerful. And if I want to play an Xbox GamePass game like Indy it’ll look and/or run better too. Just deal with it & move on. :)
@@97carrera It does though. Any game with an unlocked frame rate benefits from it. Killzone Shadow Fall is a perfect example. Runs at a smooth 60 on the base PS5, which it never did on the PS4
@ 1 game out of 1,000. Sony is kinda lame for not giving its players a fps boost to 90% of the games. Look at xbox, even games from the 360 have a FPS boost and stuff like that, and for free and without doing sum weird shi. Sony on the other hand just makes a Directors cut and sell for full price or for 10€. So much AI for raytracing and things few ppl care but they cant use AI to give older games more quality and more fps. And yes ik nobody cares abt older games, but how expensive can that be? But ofc Sony rather sell a 800€ console than giving its users quality games and no remakes or remasters
Might wanna compare PS4 versions of Dead Island 2, FF7 Remake, MW3 from Base PS5 to PS5 Pro. Because all three of those games don't supersample on the Base PS5 and play only in 1080p. But yet on PS4 Pro they play at a higher resolution. I'm not talking about the PS5 version's, so don't get confused.
@ The only true 4K GPU is AD102 (4090) and it’s currently 2grand. The 3060 bros make up a majority of the card used on Steam and they definitely not playing at 4K 30. This is something you could easily verify for yourself
Bloodborne also has the issues of having post process chromatic aberration dialed to the highest I have seen in a game during average play. When you add an AI upscaling technique or even a sharpening filter after the chromatic aberration in that post-process, which is absolutely what is happening here because it would require a patch to change the pipeline... well, there's only so much you can do. I love Bloodborne so I will take what I can get but people need to better understand render pipelines before their judgements become so nihilistic.
Not worth $800+ better off investing in a higher resolution monitor or tv if visual improvement is what you’re after. Even then if you’re spending that much on a hobby I’d just get a PC.
I agree, this mostly looks like a simple sharpening filter (probably AMD Contrast Adaptive Sharpening) rather than a proper upscaler. It will certainly help games with aggressive TAA, however, I see no reason why the base PS5 shouldn't be able to do this since CAS has been a thing for ages on PC.
Just got a ps5 and was surprised to see that this wasnt already an option. Xbox one games automatically get boosted for Series X, thats how it should be for PS5
Nothing like locking a system upscaling option behind the pro when everyone knows the ps5 is good enough to upscale ps4 games. But unlike sony😂 I don't like to rip people off.
@@SpeakerBoxXx805 you do know the PS5 and series consoles being using upscaling long before pssr was announced right? It's like these consoles are using AMD technology that allow them to use edited versions of FSR or something. Not to mention we have game engines like unreal that have those upscaling options built into it plus its own TSR upscaler.
If it makes Mh Wilds run/look better, its a buy, otherwise I couldn't care less. I've got 1200 hours in Wolrd/Iceborne. £700 is a steal to make that much time look nicer.
You know the console isn’t about this ‘a bit sharper’ PS4 BC feature right?, it’s just a nice little extra Sony hasn’t bothered to mention much. Add to it the more stable fps, AI upscaling, double storage, faster and more available RAM, beefier GPU, 10% uptick in CPU and that extra 225 over the base console (plus drive of course) and suddenly its looking very reasonable.
Why would they? Their console / platform is by far the weakest offering going, now that they have put the nail in the coffin by releasing exclusives to PS, Xbox is redundant, unless you also play on PC.
Maybe it is because they are chained to the weak Xbox S (the white lowest spec model). We've been seeing problems of some Xbox ports being delayed due to MS's condition that games must run on the weak S model. Also, I would think hemorrhaging money made MS just save up for the next gen console and stop wasting more money on the current gen. In addition, someone said that PS5 Pro is a learning platform for Sony to develop PSSR. MS doesn't need a console to experiment with since they have Windows games to do that on. Just my two cents.
All the R & D budget for these half step consoles should be put into the actual new generations, this whole 'Pro initiative is detrimental to meaningful progression
3:18 thats because they dont want the attention to be on older games when their newer games are not selling as well as projected, i.e. SpiderMan 2, Concorde. etc.
My ps5 struggles with Jurassic evolution 2. Had to put the game on 30FPS. still goes slow. Can’t wait to carry on playing on the pro. I’m expecting no more lag!!!
This is honestly bs how the base ps5 doesn't get this when its strong enough can do it. this does sound interesting I still cant see a reason to drop $700 for this and at the end of thw day it's on the devs to use the power
What Sony should do is be similar to what Microsoft did with their backwards compatibility program and patch in real performance and resolution boosts without altering the actual game code. And maybe have PS3 and Vita compatibility.
![New PS5 Pro Game Setting Confirmed. Sony Is Focused On A "Show, Don't Tell" Approach. - [LTPS #646]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qjjhVvzJGcI/mqdefault.jpg)
Why doesn't the base PS5 have this option? It has more than enough power to do this for old ps4 games as well
To get you to buy the pro. Duh.
If it's AI-powered then it's highly recommended to have dedicated modules or cores otherwise it will eat into resorces the console needs for general rasterisation.
Maybe related to the ai part of pro
Dedicated hardware for Machine Learning (ML) AI upscaling (PSSR)
Because it's unlikely that PS5 Pro actually forces the games to render at a higher resolution (games built on old SDKs simply don't have this option). It's probably just PSSR sharpening up the image and that's a feature exclusive to the Pro.
FPS boost would have been the real upgrade.
Crazy that they didn’t do it.
That's up to the devs. Microsoft tried doing in on their own and it caused resolution issues and they eventually stopped. There are just too many games to patch
@@RandomGamingMoments925 It's up to Sony. Fromsoft (Miyazaki) put out a statement that they are more than happy to do something with the game, but it's up to Sony to grant them permission to do so
I hope this happens 🙏
@@RandomGamingMoments925What resolution issues?
it is basically TH-cam 1080p vs TH-cam Premium 1080p with enhanced bitrate
lol
😂😂😂
Really?
wrong
@@spiltcoff33 so, what is right, Xavier?
Many people here in Brazil are already receiving the console for some reason, there is even a channel where a Brazilian did a complete teardown of the console.
they should they prob paid 1200 for it 💀
I already received mine as well , but a lot of games have no patch yet.
That is a retail store and not a customer - all retailers have the console now. That store in Brazil broke the Sony PS embargo in showcasing the console early and when Sony find out who they are I doubt they will have a business relationship with them in the future...
@@timsmyth7942 it's 1000+USD in South Africa already☠
They pay like double the price in Brazil, they deserve to get it early
Games I’d love to see with the Enhanced graphics are RDR2, Titanfall 2, and Arkham Knight
I would love to just get a 60fps patch for RDR2 and Knight. Always thought Rockstar would skip a patch and pull a GTAV next-gen edition with RDR2 though.
@@tmoney360 this is not the issue with the console but the game itself is cap at 30 fps u can run the game well if you got 144 hz tv I'm getting one for my ps5 pro tho coz it needs ghahahahah game run's smooth better if you got higher refresh rate monitor or tv only 60hz will look choppy ofc but on 144 and 30 fps is no issue better movements just game will look more cinematic like that because cinema itself is at 24 fps so they need to patch the rdr2 a remaster would do game is insanely beautiful!
@@nikobsk4455 Complete BS. Arkham Knight and RDR2 is capped at 30FPS, not 24.
@@nikobsk4455 a high refresh rate TV wont do anything for your 30fps games.
@@adds-kz3oche said they’re capped at 30. Cinema is 24. He was saying it looks better at higher hz
Maybe The Order 1886 may look tons better. A crime why that game never got an update.
@@PEMBYSGAMINGWORLD one of my favorite and most overlooked games …. Gonna go back and play soon
Couldn't agree more, I'll take any improvement. But imagine a proper 4k/1440p 60fps patch :').
@@jc4446 It's a totally run of the mill shooter, but nowadays that feel like it's exceeding.
Love Order. It's just a simple, fun shooter with awesome attention to detail and a cool ass setting and characters.
Great game
@@phant0mdummyyou are absolutely right. Gaming is so lackluster nowadays that games like the order that was shitted on when released are now getting praise
Seeing Bloodborne made me click so fast lmao
wont fix frame pacing doesnt matter 🥲
Why is bloodbrone so popular?
@@Miwith360onthe same reason dark souls 3 is
@@Miwith360onhave you ever played it?
@@28_SpokesI never play any souls games I just seen it on his channel and online I’m just curious on why it’s most popular in the community it’s more popular then anything recently ps4 game
Honestly that spec sheet for PS5 pro means nothing to me. Time and time again we are seeing how well PS5 run games despite "inferior" specs. The software matters more when they find the know how and optimize it. PS5 pro is gonna surprise people again.
But for example dragon age veilguard is litterly running at 504p in performance mode and then upscaled from there yet it still looks very blurry
@@talion7268and don't forget this game is already optimized as hell, it's not possible to increase the fidelity/performance more. This game is already a beast in optimization, especially on PC. So it's definitely a Console Software&Hardware issue
the beast is coming
@@kewa_design that's the most incredible delusion I've ever heard LOL it's 504p in performance mode yet you claim it's highly optimized??? LMFAO
@@HugoStiglitz88 he means the game is optimized, but the console still can't run it without those harsh restrictions
I hope it has some noticable effect on Arkham Knight. Still play that game through to this day.
that game still looks good today
That game honestly would benefit more from a 60 fps patch than up scaling
@@VisForVindettaits a crime they haven't given it 60fps. Same with rdr2
WB has no problem downgrading it for Switch but declines any opportunity for 60fps or even next gen upgrade
@@David-nq8cv NVIDIA leak years ago had a PS5 remaster on the list. After the disaster that was Kill the Justice League I imagine it’s probably what they’re working on now to try to claw some money back
I am surprised that Nier Automata never got a native PS5 remaster.
Probably because platinum games is busy with whatever project they working on.
honestly that's probably the only game i would buy a remaster without thinking ONCE
Same thing why Nier Replicant/Gestalt never got PS5 remaster.
@@final909because it didnt sell fast and make alot of money like other games dud
@TheCoolgame24 Nier Automata sold well and still hasn't got a PS5 Remaster yet.
People should focus on clearing their backlog first before complaining about the lack of games.
Yes. And complete them „right“ + not rush through them. I‘m still busy with the awesome 2023 games. Then i saved some DLCs for the end of the year like the ones from RE4 Remake, Alan Wake 2 or Forbidden West 🙂👌.
@@Desperado169 What about Dredge? I am currently playing that, great game, I like the lovecraftian cosmic horror elements
@@ahmadammarAB not sure why it bothers you? Not everybody cares about older games. Many of us want to play new stuff.
Yeah, it's a pretty silly complaint. Not only because of the impossibly enormous amount of games available, but also because devs/publishers would gladly have 10x times the amount of games released out there to keep selling more and more to people who would buy anything just because it's new. They definitely are not sitting around refusing to make money from those whales.
What a strange take.
I just want uncapped frames on these games smh. Tons of these ps4 games are capable of running at 100+ frames
consoles aren't as powerful as people think, just look at dragon age veilguard running at native 500p on both ps5 and series x
I don't see any real significant difference between image enhancements for Bloodbourne.We just need a remastered version.
No you need horizon, tlou, and spidey. 😂
No more remasters, just make a new one
I think it's fair enough to have a remake, by the same people who made the Demon Souls remake, that's peak remake quality.
The difference may be more noticeable on a 4K screen, but a Pro Enhance patch to uncap the framerate would be appreciated.
Why its not going to make real money
Thank you mystic I appreciate all you do this helped me tons.
It's still early to say. I'm sure some games will look better than others. But at the end of the day it's a PS4 game. If it doesn't get an FPS patch, then you're not going to really notice too much different. Honestly you could probably just increase the sharpness on your TV for certain PS4 games and get the exact same effect.
But still cool that it's there.
I want that the ps2 classics gets improved with pssr
I’m excited for it!!
The enhanced PS4 Quality just looks like a sharpen filter IMO. Still a nice bonus though.
This makes me more excited to get the 5 pro. I assumed it would be a title by title basis where maybe Sony would patch some PS4 games. But to have ALL ps4 games be sharpened is pretty nice.
What a waste of money
@ if your use case is to just play ps4 games then yes it probably is but it’s a cool addition
If the PS6 is backwards compatible with PS4 and PS5 games, I hope Bloodborne doesn’t act weird on the PS6.
Morgana?
It won't be......
It will still run at 1080 30 on ps6 because sony doesn't want to patch it
Yeah because it’d be a disaster to have to play it on PS4 or PS5….. right? 😂
But that would actually mean that Sony would do something great for the players and they don't do that anymore.
The problem with increasing the resolution on these older games is, that often they don’t actually look better because the games haven’t been designed for higher resolutions so it just looks like you’re applying a sharpening filter
Nah, the problem is that the resolution is not actually increased, it _is_ mostly a sharpening filter. The consoles can't force these games to run at higher resolutions, there's just no option to. If you saw any videos of PS2 or PS3 emulation at 4k, those games look _vastly_ different and kind of uncanny actually. In some cases it's amazing how much art detail even the original PS1 games had that is now much more perceivable in 4k.
True…example: gta 3, vice city, San Andrea definitive edition
a sharpening pass doens't look bad unless it leaves more pronounced aliasing though. That's one of the best things about DLSS. It resolves such a good image and has such good antialiasing, you can run a mild sharpening pass over it which really makes the image pop
@@_n8thagr8_63 why aren’t they running the new AI upscaler they have on those PS4 games then?
Sometimes. More often than not, the higher resolution is better. This is more obvious the older the game. For example, upscaling Dreamcast games is a must.
So basically.
We got our PS4 Pro features back.
Enhance image quality = Replaced Supersampling but the same thing.
Boost Mode = Boost Mode.
Means Dead Island 2 and FF7 remake (PS4 Version's) will now look pretty like the PS4 Pro.
Because right now both of those games only play in 1080p on Base PS5. It's pretty crappy.
I'll also be testing out my entire list of Physical PS4 games (Not the PS5 Version's)
Just get a pc if you care enough to learn this stuff
My opinion and few others i spoke with at work....we sticking too our original ps5. No need for us too upgrade unless Sony decides too drop the price later on. But by then, might as well wait on ps6. But yea,our ps5 is fine and im happy with keeping what i got. I respect those who got money and just wanna stay up to date etc, (,i do that with Samsung phones) but imma enjoy sticking with my original ps5 for now.
I'm under the impression no one should buy a ps6 at launch, just wait for the ps6 pro.
I just bought a ps5 because I thought it wouldn't happen this time; yeah know, i was naive.
@@elChirrinChirriondelDiabloi waited for the pro but was disappointed by the improvements and the price so I purchased the slim 30th anniversary edition instead.
@@elChirrinChirriondelDiablo yep 🤦🏿♂️👏🏿👏🏿
@charlotteritchie9969 awesome, i wanted that one,but glad you got one 👌🏿👏🏿👏🏿
The Pro is just a slim for $200 more, if you're waiting on power or a good ecosystem hop over to pc and xbox.
They should do a toggle for enhance image of PS4 games by default and then a screen to apply exceptions to specific games either in this menu or in the game info from homepage, because at this state you will have to change every time you play a specific game that doesn't work then turn back on
I’m laughing at everyone because I grew up playing 15 fps games on ps1 😅 honestly anything 30 fps and over is solid for me , 60 fps is mind blowing … but I don’t doubt these things will sell pretty quick , I’m good with my slim for now ,
Base ps5 still has a lot of 60fps and 120fps games 😁
@ yep loving it so much , still playing sh2 , wanna make it last as long as possible lol
I can almost see Sony doing something for the PS6 where they advertise like, "Enhance your classic PS4 library!" And the console will have some kind of tool that, when running PS4 titles, it will boost the native output resolution to 4K and unlock the framerate. Just because I imagine the CPU and GPU will be probably the equivalent of 2025 i7s and the highest 2025 Radeon GPU, whenever that decides to come out (Since console's are typically about 2 or 3 years behind top spec PCs).
This is basically 4K Gamer Pro in the HDMI chain applying a sharpening filter. A Sony TV (Reality Creation) or LG TV can produce similar results.
I have the PS5 Pro and a PS4 game where I felt an interesting difference was Kingdom Come Deliverance, which was very blurry and now the image is "cleaner".
I bet Mass Effect Legendary looks incredible. I played on PS4, PS4 Pro, and PS5. Each console was a significant and noticeable boost for the exact same copy of the game. I'd be curious for PS5 Pro
I'm not sure why people are starting to notice this feature now? This was known very early after the reveal of the PS5 Pro.
It wasn't in their marketing videos tho
@@shabbertoit was online on the Site and in the ps Blog
@@TheSlayerZer0proving the guy point
Because we didn’t have footage before so kinda obvious why
It was thought it would be boost mode like the PS4 Pro, where it helped games reach their framerate and resolution targets (for games with dynamic resolution).
This is great news as I will be revisiting some PS4 classics when I get my PS5 Pro.
Omg killer feature!!! If only PS3 emulation was there too and got the same 😅😅😅
It's really nothing special, and they have to wait for PS3 emulation on PC to finish up the work for them
This was quite disappointing. I would have preferred that they did something to make ps4 games run at least 60fps consistently. If they manage to do that, then they can get my money
Sony is giving us this instead of actually giving us a proper 1080 or 1480p with 60fps BLOODBORNE game is insane.
i heard that bloodborne will not be able to run at 60fps on console because the apparently the framerate is tied to the games engine which would require them to pretty much redo the source code which sony and fromsoftware doesn't want to do. so maybe sony opted to do a remake like demon souls.
@@LCJammer Dark Souls 3 runs on the exact same engine and was patched to run at 60FPS on both PS4 Pro/PS5 and Xbox Series X/S. Someone online has also provided evidence that Bloodborne could run at 60FPS with the same patch applied as Dark Souls 3.
@@lutherh6090 there's' a df video talking about this "Bloodborne 60fps Hack Tested! 1080p, 900p, 720p - Can We Lock to 60fps?" this is probably where i got that the game was never meant for 60fps gameplay because it was hardcoded for 30fps. very interesting video.
So basically that's DLSS set on Low setting with different name.
100% is DLSS. I know from experience on PC.
It clearly isn't since DLSS runs exclusively on nvidia GPU's and the PS5 is using AMD hardware.
It’s not that we can’t see a difference, it’s that we can’t see a SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLAR difference…
THANK YOU!
When did everyone become so dang cheap?
Then don't buy it.. It's not for you if you can't afford it or don't want it cool.. I remember I wanted things I couldn't afford and I would look for any reason not to buy it to make myself feel better about not having it.
Why are you asking for a 700 dollar difference? It's 250 more than the digital slim, with more than double the storage.
You mean 200 dollar difference... base is 500, Pro is 700. Simple math really.
THis is what we should have got 4 years ago. Next gen should have started now. Now if you start a game it won't be ready till the PS6 comes out which is hilarious!
Interested to see the fps improvements for Elden Ring
Man... they really made a console release so damn hard to be excited about 😮💨
Yeah I know it's supposed to be low-volume but still kinda crazy
If it doesn't boost PS4 games to 60fps then I'm definitely not buying the PS5 Pro.
This will be 30 fps 😂
Bye, Felicia! 😂
How would a ps5 unlock games that are locked by developers?
@@lukesabladeAsk Microsoft. They’re about to figure it out.
@@jakedizzle ok…
Perfectly happy with my day one ps5 games look fine to me on standard ps5
So the PS5 should be able to do this but they didn't give gamers that option on purpose to sell this dead mid gen console
It's a negligible difference, but it's there. Will be more interesting to see gameplay in motion though for comparison.
This console is such a yawn to me like it really feels scammy. Anyone shelling out for this better have the TV and calibration to match, or else what are we doing?
Anyone that doesn't have a display for this console isn't the target audience. They won't get the most out of a base ps5 let alone a pro
This system needs to fail to send a message to SONY.
it's crazy how bloodborne runs better on pc now
The Pro is nothing more than a Concord tax!
😅 not true at all
Nice it comes with a bonus feature! I didn’t even know I was getting this till now.
After MFID leaked the information about the PS5 Pro, Digital Foundry added one extra bit of information which was that the system had more available memory for dev use vs the base PS5 so it makes sense that it actually has a couple of gigs of DDR5 thrown in to offload basic system tasks as the PS4 Pro used this same trick to great effect.
Remember, PSSR is geared towards upscaling resolution (R) not necessarily improving performance. You're paying a premium just to look at slightly prettier things on-screen with practically the same frame rates as on base PS5.
If I have to squint my eyes to notice a difference, it ain’t worth it to upgrade 🤣
Okay now can we get FPS boost for 700 bucks this ain’t worth it
That's up to the Developers. If they don't push out a patch, games will remain at 30 fps.
@@DeadPhoenix86DP which is why FPS Boost exists to begin with on Xbox
Speaking of the AI upscaling enhancements the PS5 can provide to older PS4 titles.. Some mentioned it's better to have dedicated modules for AI upscaling which I understand.
However.. It doesn't take that much to force the PS5 to render the game, in this example Bloodborne at a higher resolution without the AI upscaling.. Bloodborne at 1440p for the normal PS5 in pure rasterization is something I can't imagine it not being able to do.
The whole ps5/ps5 pro thing has finally convinced me to switch to pc. It's sad to see Sony make so many anti-consuner choices in a row. The PS5 hardware has barely been utilized and now they're trying to force people into buying another expensive console to get features we should have on the ps5. It's been a good run, but I'll be waiting for any Sony exclusives to come to Steam now.
They've always been anti-consumer, but now theres zero reason to stay behind while everyone else eats freely. Just get ryzen 7000 series and up if you want to do rpcs3
@user-jr7bb6g9ev true, years ago they at least had to pretend to have consumers best choice in mind
like the pc market is any cheaper lmao
@@spiltcoff33 If you know what you're doing its only a bit more for a nice rig.
Then you're stuck with many times the power/longevity and no monopoly taxes
@spiltcoff33 cheaper has nothing to do with it.
Tbh, one of the biggest wins is the additional ram usage for the devs. People don’t realize how substantial 1 extra GB can go
Yeah. Also that extra 1GB on the Pro can actually wreak havoc on 12GB GPUs!
Imagine paying 800 Euro on a Zen 2 System in 2025 💀
And no disc drive or stand 💀
A total waste
If money isnt and issue, why do you care?
@ who said money isn’t an issue? I want value for my money.
@@manuel0578 For many ppl money isnt and issue.
So getting better Graphics and higher fps. Is pretty good value for 800.
The enhancement is there if you look REALLY close. Totally worth the tag
Still looks really soupy
still 1080p
It's pretty amazing how much you are able to yap incessantly. The information on this video can be presented in two minutes tops.
I can't wait to spend $800+tax for slightly better image quality! What a bargain!
The difference is so subtle that that could have been a contrast and sharpen slider on a tv.
While people are complaining about their backlog of games yet continue to keep buying more games or consoles. what’s the point of getting a $700 console with no disc drive and barely any difference. I’m fine with my ps5 slim.
The "newer" consoles are usually for people who don't do an research on their previous versions... They just stick for the "Newer = better" quote.
@@Noa15Lv more likely the kind of gamer with both the disposable income as well as engagement in the PlayStation ecosystem are exactly the kind of gamer who really do their research and do watch all these TH-cam videos in making up their mind? 🙄
Also, get off your high horse.
@@vincevirtua Where's the farmers, there's also the sheeps.
@@vincevirtua "engagement in the playstation monopoly" and "really do their research" do not go together unless you're very ignorant.
@@user-jr7bb6g9ev dude… I am getting the console. And if you have a different console it’s not as powerful. And if I want to play an Xbox GamePass game like Indy it’ll look and/or run better too. Just deal with it & move on. :)
Much love homie hope everything is going well for you! Would you rather have a new sly cooper game or infamous with og characters lol
Absolutely sucks why only the pro users get enchanced ps4 titles
Ps5 pro standard already boosts performance through backwards compatibility to a degree. Nothing crazy but it's there
@@snipinpixihunterit doesnt, maybe more resolution but whats the point of more resolution when it doesnt have a FPS boost?
Its easy for them to extract money when you're stuck in their monopoly with one choice for 3 years
@@97carrera It does though. Any game with an unlocked frame rate benefits from it. Killzone Shadow Fall is a perfect example. Runs at a smooth 60 on the base PS5, which it never did on the PS4
@ 1 game out of 1,000. Sony is kinda lame for not giving its players a fps boost to 90% of the games. Look at xbox, even games from the 360 have a FPS boost and stuff like that, and for free and without doing sum weird shi.
Sony on the other hand just makes a Directors cut and sell for full price or for 10€.
So much AI for raytracing and things few ppl care but they cant use AI to give older games more quality and more fps.
And yes ik nobody cares abt older games, but how expensive can that be? But ofc Sony rather sell a 800€ console than giving its users quality games and no remakes or remasters
Even Sony does not hype this feature, they know its just little bonus.
Who cares about ai graphics, something that gives a steady 60 fps to every ps4 game would have been praised
It would be cool to have 60 fps patch on every ps4 games(and a 4k patch so I can push my ps5 to its absolute limits)
We went from remastered games current gen games to remastered current gen consoles - thank God for OG physical media
That’s a nice feature, I have so many PS4 games, will be interesting to see it in action this Thursday.
I ended up running it on a ps4 pro with the 60fps patch. It's good there
Might wanna compare PS4 versions of Dead Island 2, FF7 Remake, MW3 from Base PS5 to PS5 Pro.
Because all three of those games don't supersample on the Base PS5 and play only in 1080p.
But yet on PS4 Pro they play at a higher resolution.
I'm not talking about the PS5 version's, so don't get confused.
That’s exactly the content I am here for.
lol i guess such level of sharpening could be achieved through tv settings with minimal latency
Who cares about resolution, frames should be upgraded
Both*
PS5 Pro does nothing to improve performance.
Bro just wait for the real reviews
Says who? Send me the proof
the real issue is its $200 more for slight improvements that should be in the slim refresh
@@user-jr7bb6g9ev not even worth it for something that barely/hardly improves upon performance.
@@Yusei255 As a slim it'd be okay, but as you said not enough is different to call it a pro and charge $
The ps4 enhancement is the definition of that meme where you hold up two pictures to the lady and she says " it's the same picture".
For 700 bucks nothing should be running at 30 frames, Sony fooled you guys again in the same generation wow
1400 dollar PCs have run games at 30 frames with 4k, which is what the Pro does. Stop being ignorant
@ The only true 4K GPU is AD102 (4090) and it’s currently 2grand. The 3060 bros make up a majority of the card used on Steam and they definitely not playing at 4K 30. This is something you could easily verify for yourself
All ps5 games have 60fps performance modes what you talking about
@ ps4 games is the topic of this video, try to pay attention
@@Kapono5150 you pc guys are so scared of the ps5 pro it’s hilarious
Bloodborne also has the issues of having post process chromatic aberration dialed to the highest I have seen in a game during average play. When you add an AI upscaling technique or even a sharpening filter after the chromatic aberration in that post-process, which is absolutely what is happening here because it would require a patch to change the pipeline... well, there's only so much you can do. I love Bloodborne so I will take what I can get but people need to better understand render pipelines before their judgements become so nihilistic.
Let’s go bloodbourne
I’m soooo happy I’ve sold that shit and built a pc 😊
Not worth $800+ better off investing in a higher resolution monitor or tv if visual improvement is what you’re after. Even then if you’re spending that much on a hobby I’d just get a PC.
I agree, this mostly looks like a simple sharpening filter (probably AMD Contrast Adaptive Sharpening) rather than a proper upscaler. It will certainly help games with aggressive TAA, however, I see no reason why the base PS5 shouldn't be able to do this since CAS has been a thing for ages on PC.
I just want 60fps patches for ps4 games
That's up to the devs, not Sony
To summarise in one short sentence: "This is a joke."
£700 btw lol. I've said to everyone, this console is only worth it if you dont have a ps5 already.
When you can sell your ps5 for 300 it makes it much more doable, still think it should be 600 max
@@snowy5628 it should've been the slim refresh for how little it adds, with good gaming pcs under $1k now is the time to jump ship
Just got a ps5 and was surprised to see that this wasnt already an option. Xbox one games automatically get boosted for Series X, thats how it should be for PS5
Nothing like locking a system upscaling option behind the pro when everyone knows the ps5 is good enough to upscale ps4 games.
But unlike sony😂 I don't like to rip people off.
there's no difference really.
The base PS5 doesn't have AI capability like the Pro does due to PSSR.
@@SpeakerBoxXx805 makes no difference.
@@SpeakerBoxXx805 AI has nothing to do with it except marketing
@@SpeakerBoxXx805 you do know the PS5 and series consoles being using upscaling long before pssr was announced right? It's like these consoles are using AMD technology that allow them to use edited versions of FSR or something. Not to mention we have game engines like unreal that have those upscaling options built into it plus its own TSR upscaler.
If it makes Mh Wilds run/look better, its a buy, otherwise I couldn't care less.
I've got 1200 hours in Wolrd/Iceborne. £700 is a steal to make that much time look nicer.
A bit sharper isn't worth $700. Tell Sony to uncapped the framerate for Bloodborne.
You know the console isn’t about this ‘a bit sharper’ PS4 BC feature right?, it’s just a nice little extra Sony hasn’t bothered to mention much. Add to it the more stable fps, AI upscaling, double storage, faster and more available RAM, beefier GPU, 10% uptick in CPU and that extra 225 over the base console (plus drive of course) and suddenly its looking very reasonable.
some modded PS5 can run 60FPS Bloodborne tho
@@amnril $700 pc price to have barely anything close, super reasonable but hey at least it has those buzzwords
Thank You for Playstation news!
It's kinda sad Microsoft isn't making a Mid Gen upgrade this time. Because Xbox One X was a power house for 4K mode games.
was it though
Why would they? Their console / platform is by far the weakest offering going, now that they have put the nail in the coffin by releasing exclusives to PS, Xbox is redundant, unless you also play on PC.
@@timsmyth7942 Well Native 4K or Higher pixels than PS4 Pro
Maybe it is because they are chained to the weak Xbox S (the white lowest spec model). We've been seeing problems of some Xbox ports being delayed due to MS's condition that games must run on the weak S model.
Also, I would think hemorrhaging money made MS just save up for the next gen console and stop wasting more money on the current gen.
In addition, someone said that PS5 Pro is a learning platform for Sony to develop PSSR. MS doesn't need a console to experiment with since they have Windows games to do that on.
Just my two cents.
@@servare2599 It has 360 back compat and can emulate various consoles including PS2. So it is far from being useless.
Don't try to act like this will make bloodborne look or run any different. You can only do that with pc with shad ps4 emulation.
All the R & D budget for these half step consoles should be put into the actual new generations, this whole 'Pro initiative is detrimental to meaningful progression
No FPS boost = no upgrade
Not going to happen until Sony starts getting serious about making real substantial upgrades to the CPU like they do with the GPU.
3:18 thats because they dont want the attention to be on older games when their newer games are not selling as well as projected, i.e. SpiderMan 2, Concorde. etc.
if it boosted the fps in any games then it would definitely be worth it.
They still need to made a ps5 pro with disc drive already built in and not the optional thing
Why? Just buy the optional drive and pop it in yourself, it takes a minute or two.
@@amnrilexactly it pretty much makes no difference. If Sony included it in an $800 model it would be exactly the same.
My ps5 struggles with Jurassic evolution 2. Had to put the game on 30FPS. still goes slow.
Can’t wait to carry on playing on the pro.
I’m expecting no more lag!!!
I don't care at all about graphics. The only thing I want for Bloodborne is to play it on 60fps and not 30fps.
It does look like a 720p game in motion... the aliasing in BB is disgusting. It needs higher resolution, antialiasing and 60fps.
It's probably the worst 30 fps game i've ever played. So choppy
This is honestly bs how the base ps5 doesn't get this when its strong enough can do it.
this does sound interesting I still cant see a reason to drop $700 for this and at the end of thw day it's on the devs to use the power
they realized the slim could be rebranded as a pro for $200 more, even with the backlash ignorant consumers have no other choice
Sony the type to add wallpapers only on ps5 pro
Lmao 😂
What Sony should do is be similar to what Microsoft did with their backwards compatibility program and patch in real performance and resolution boosts without altering the actual game code. And maybe have PS3 and Vita compatibility.
800€ for that sht 🐴🤣🤡
2:57
"All that's still accurate"
GPU: 33.5 TFLOPS -> 16.7 TFLOPS