Passport Wars: Netherlands vs. France
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Which passport would you rather hold? In this episode of Passport Wars, we dive deep into the comparison between France and the Netherlands. From lifestyle and taxation to personal freedom and dual citizenship, we break down the pros and cons of each passport.
Join the conversation and let us know which country you think comes out on top!
You can access the Nomad Capitalist Passport Index here: nomadcapitalist.com/nomad-pas...
00:00 Start
00:33 Round One: Perception
2:08 Round Two: Taxation
4:24 Round Three: Personal Freedom
6:20 Round Four: Dual Citizenship
7:05 Round Five: Lifestyle
8:46 Lightning Round: Visa-Free Travel
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Not allowing dual citizenship should be an instant lose for any Nomad Capitalist
agree
Agreed
Please explain, marxist.
I'm dutch and I agree.
To be fair if you're an EU citizen it doesn't affect you that much apparently
MORE passport wars PLEASE!
More to come! You can see them in this playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLlVUJeLNo-5JkxrsNcgnSIfv3AriQycOw.html
UK vs. Spain please
As a French passport holder (by descent), we win because we can (and I do) hold other passports as backup options
Very true
What other passports do you hold if I may ask?
I'm french and I'm trying to get an italian one (by descent) but I'm curious.
@@Helgrind44 not worth it, I have one, it is a hassle to renew it, half of the administration is run by extremely incompetent bureaucrats that will lose your papers and not respond to calls even from other Italian authorities... I will never renew mine after I get French citizenship.
@@Helgrind44 British. My dad has Irish and I'm born in Ireland but I somehow am no longer eligible for it after moving to the UK (where I got naturalised). I also have an Overseas Citizen of India card
@@pablojlascano8322 lmao I have a friend who's French-Italian and has never even gotten an Italian one cuz of the hassle 😂
I like this format!
I am Dutch and I wish I was French...
I love this! Passport Wars! Very entertaining! They’re so good! 👏 Is it the first episode?
We are glad you liked it. We have several, you can see the entire playlist here: th-cam.com/play/PLlVUJeLNo-5JkxrsNcgnSIfv3AriQycOw.html&feature=shared 😊
@@nomadcapitalistgreat do you list each country someplace? Even a top 10 ranked by these criteria would be wonderful and offer a great conversation started with your company.
Great episode. Love the presentation
France because it allows dual citizenship while Netherlands does not.
As triple citizen of UK, Ireland and Australia I dont want to lose those pasaports.
It was very entertaining, we want more!
I very much enjoyed this! Intersting concept!
Awesome, thank you!
Great. I think this format is quite interesting. Please give us more shows on this format.
Regards,
Abdullah Abbasi
Great show!
Very creative. Great Video!
Thanks!
I’m french of dutch ancestry and I’m considering moving to The Netherlands because life is getting worse and worse in France
Really? My wife wants us to move to France ... I would prefer Portugal though ...
Move outside Europe, preferably South America, like Paraguay if you want real freedom.
Great concept for this vid
For now I am happy with my Swiss + Philippine passports.
Wonderful video format. Very interesting and well presented. Thank you 🙏🏻
andrew living his life.
Thanks for the video content. Keep up the good work.
Oh my goodness!! Please do more of these! Will you, please, do a passport war for Mexico vs Colombia? Considering both but can’t decide. I would love the Nomad Capitalist take. ❤
I choose France for two reasons.On the one hand I live in Spain so it's next door, on the other is because France is like 10 times bigger that the Netherlands and also because I speak French.
Interesting format
I really enjoyed this and love to see more of these. Personal, if offered a passport from either as a dual citizen of special circumstance, I would take the Netherlands passport.
Thanks for sharing. You can see other #PassportWars videos here: th-cam.com/play/PLlVUJeLNo-5JkxrsNcgnSIfv3AriQycOw.html&feature=shared
Thanks that was fun but didn't talk about affordability Healthcare or employment I love your program ❤
"At least no one in the world hates you when you show your passport to them." 😂
As a US citizen, I understand LOL ..
I chuckled at that😂😂
100% true hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha i spat my drink out when she said that
I love this!
I like the format. It is fun. As a French born, dual citizen, I am not neutral here. France wins big times.
ever tried to explain you are a libertarian to a French? ha ha ha... every single time I talk about politics with French people they start watching me as if I am some kind of extraterrestrial being. They simply cannot imagine a world in which the Government doesn't provide you with ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING....
@@pablojlascano8322it depends who you talk to… there are quite a few that do not appreciate the lack of liberty in the last few years with the lockdowns. Or the high taxes. Or the immigration policy.
I loved this video format, it was hilarious as well.
Excellent video this plus and minus sketch works well for me. Best advice I can give is draw up a list on a piece of A4 paper one side pluses otherside minuses. As a dual citizenship guy it helped me zoom in on the two countries that fit my life style choice's
How about a SWOT analysis?,. Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats.
I hold french + 2 others, which I couldn't even say if I had a Dutch passport. Clear win.
I'm Dutch and hold a Thai passport, so we're even since your French passport no one wants anyways
@@JeromePowerrr I don't know about "even", I got my French passport by descent. My main one is Luxemburg, where I'm born, and the other one is Switzerland, where I used to live for 13years. Working on Chile as we speak, should be done by next year. Oh and I also have my UAE Visa which I renew every 2 years.
Dutch & Thai is a weird flex my guy....
Who tf wants a French passport?
@@NS-un5lz I didn't want it, it came w/ birth. And yed I despise the french. Also, my point was that it allows multiple citizenships
Nobody hates the Netherlands? Well, my Indonesian friend disagrees entirely. He still remembers very well how poorly the Dutch people treated his family.
fun format, hope to see more pokemon battles on this channel 😆
Coming from the perspective of a nomad capitalist who’s trying to build a passport portfolio, I think overall; France won this. Dual citizenship, slightly lower taxes, and visa free access to Vietnam takes the win in my opinion.
France 🇫🇷 passport 💪 France got too many great islands reunion , Saint Barthélemy, Corsica, Belle-Île-en-Mer, Martinique beautiful cuisine 🍷🥐
I love these type of videos. Would love to see one comparing Nordic countries, like Sweden :):)
France has overseas territories all around the world, caribeab, south america, south pacific. French is a much better passport than Netherland
So does the Netherlands😉
This is entertaining
Nice game show feel, a fun video. I would not want either passport because of the taxation, but I think they are pretty evenly matched. I would like to see a South American country versus a European country.
Thanks! Keep an eye on our channel, there is more to come. 😊
Nice concept! Informative and entertaining too! Keep it up :)
The no dual citizenship thing is a deal-breaker for me. The Dutch overseas territories does present an interesting way in, but having to swap my Canadian travel documents for The Netherlands seems like a wash. I would agree, showing up with a Dutch passport is likely to be about as well received a passport as you will find in the world.
I do like the people in The Netherlands much better. Not pretentious, a bit reserved but they warm up quickly. And, this feature is for the ladies, I've never in my life felt short like I do when I'm strolling around Amsterdam. At 6'4", I usually tower over almost everyone. Not so in The Netherlands. Young men, old me, doesn't matter. It seems I can stand and talk to half the nation and look them squarely in the eyes. Even more than a few of the women are north of 6'. I don't think the same can be said of Frenchmen, so for all the single ladies looking for a man you can wear heels around, The Netherlands beckons.
Ah, but France. If I had to spend a lot of time in one of the two, it has to be France. I feel like you could spend months, even years exploring France. The Netherlands, I feel like a couple of weeks and you would have a good handle on the place. And unless the Dutch are going to be taking territory from another European nation, they can't compete with France's spot on the Med. Where better to spend the summer months?
I do wonder who would win the cheese showdown. And yes, Schiphol over CDG any day of the week!
Nice over Schiphol anytime 😂
As far as I know you can keep your Canadian citizenship if you marry a Dutch person for example. Also if your parents have dual citizenship then you are allowed to have it too. The govt only screws over the native Dutchies, as usual.
I'd be intrigued, to see one on S.Korea or Colombia.
Ohhh Can you do Japan and Singapore?
This is awesome!! Under no circumstances should you get a Netherlands passport. 52%!!
1:56 As a french, I confirm that the average french population does not speak english 😀
That said, I'm a little surprised at the lenient tax score you gave for France. In reality, it should be more Lenine than lenient. The effective tax rate is super high, fragmented in many little taxes with different names and wording, like "taxe", "impôt", "cotisation", "salaire différé", "TVA", "flat tax", "droit de succession" and so on. And they multiply alltogether. France is very creative when it comes to hide taxation through semantics. Government never communicates on the effective tax rate, or else it would be the revolution. I computed that the french effective tax rate is around 65% to 75%, rising up to 90% when someone dies. I call that a soviet country.
Fun video
It is unfair match for the Netherlands. I am french living in the Netherlands. And if I have 8 figures seating in my account/assets then I would prefer to be in french riviera and occasionally going to Paris or the Luxury ski stations like Courchevel rather than being in the Netherlands. Further more the Netherlands have ABC caraibean islands but France has Goudeloupe, Martinique, saint Martin and ultra-rich destination Saint-barts. Then there is Saint Pierre et Miquelon next to Canada, there is Reunion and Mayotte in the Indian Ocean, New-caledonia in the Pacific and more...for a ultra high networth individual France wins easily
You didn't compare the two most important items. Who has the better food. Who has the prettier women
Women, Netherlands!
Food, France!
Men: France
Food: France
One of them is a caliphate
😂😂😂
And the other will be. Europe is lost.
@@behappybevegan [Geert Wilders enters the room]
@@rubensnogueira5838 🤣🤣🤣
This makes me proud and happy as a naturalized French citizen. I like the Netherlands too even if I haven't visited it yet.
That is why God smiles at Netherlands kindness and mercy
The representative for Netherlands is adorable with those glasses….
But I chose neither of these countries…
Great way to introduce the content Andrew
@joelr7208 I am Dutch and I think she isn't a native Dutch speaker.
@@Denyo666 she does a well enough job in my opinion for non Dutch speaker such as myself,
What are your thoughts? Why would you think she isn’t native?
@@joelr7208 She did a great job at presenting the Netherlands! She isn't native in the way she speaks English, it was also confirmed by the uploader in the comment section that she isn't Dutch :).
Irena vs Jovana. Amazing box fighting!!!
I am a Dutch/American citizen with dual citizenship - two passports - there are a decent amount of exceptions which allow you to hold 2 :)
The Ducth lady says that EU citizen don't have to give up their other EU passports when taking Dutch citizenship, is that true? I can't find anything about this exception.
@@edoardorossi5031 nope that is not true!! I dont know why she said that (I am dutch myself). Germany however does have this exception though
@@Scoopajesse it is true.
How can you have dual? I'm looking into it as well as my mother was born in Holland. However I live in Canada and don't want to give up my Canadian citizenship.
Netherlands generally doesn't allow dual citizenship. Instant fail.
You can get that there are so many ways. Just find in Google you will get. Currently in Netherlands there 3 million with dual citizenship go check it
I have a dual citizenship, one of them being from Netherlands
@@jays7318 You've either done it on the sly, or through the narrow means they allow.
@@jays7318 its allowed but there is a law that if you dont live in the Netherland for 10 years long they automatically cancel your citizenship
@nerolowell2320 That's not true. I've had a Netherlands passport without living in the country for more than 20 years
which of this two countries has a cbi program?
I love this video format! I love all European countries, but I notice that Dutch people speak excellent English, while bigger countries like Franch and Germans feel like they're big enough that they don't need to learn English. Also, in terms of preception, France has more colonialism in Africa and Caribbean (Haiti), so preception is more about what not to do, and there smaller countries win. I think Netherlands slightly wins, if I had to pick a winner.
italy vs germany plz
France is very hard to get into and are trying to close it down.
It’s clearly France that won but The Netherlands did promote their selfs well. Infrastructure I always see The Netherlands on number 1 but literally did we know that easy Storm poly can actually Destroy the infrastructure of The Netherlands. And because the infrastructure of The Netherlands is never tested and never properly explained infrastructure goes also to France. France and Netherlands both have good health care so both getting the point i can more argument why France is the winner but that will be to much
This episode was quite enjoyable. Great idea to do debates. Piers Morgan watch out 😅
Is there a "best passport for freedom" by nomad capitalist?
I'd pick countries like Switzerland over France or Netherlands, I don't want the WEF to push "de-growth" agendas on me or the society I'm living in.
Neither.. I'd go with Irelans and since I learnt my grandfather was born in Cork.... I'm applying
If I wanted to live someplace cheap, so I could save my current job income to be able to invest most of my income. What are some of the top suggestions the community would make? Georgia, Malaysia and Spain look like decent options so far to me.
Casting Couch Countries: Netherlands vs Spain
There is a "hidden" but very obvious detail in this video that I absolutely adore. The painting in the center is a reproduction of a fresco called "White Angel" from the Serbian monastery Mileshevo (13th century). It is one of the great achievements of European art... but it actually has many meanings.
But speaking of the topic, passports. The Netherlands is bad because it doesn't allow dual citizenship, and that is game over. But more importantly, The Netherlands blindly follows American cultural dictate (wokeness) and ultra left marxism has a lot of momentum. There are a lot of privileged people mostly in the cities who vote for unreasonable parties and policies (the best term to describe them is "champagne socialists"). The recent elections in the NL showed how much the rest of the people are fed up with it, so the anti-establishment party (PVV) won the most votes - but not enough to independently form a government. The champagne socialists (woke) compete who is going to be more righteous, and in that competition they devastate the life standard, purchasing power of the middle class.
One more thing - The Netherlands is a tax haven, but only for ultra large corporations. The famous double Dutch Irish sandwich is a tax scheme used by such corporations. When it comes to taxing ordinary people and middle class - the NL is very efficient.
I am Dutch and what is also bad in the Netherlands is that you can't change your last name (only by a few exceptions where you need approval from the King). I found this out myself the hard way after marrying abroad. Netherlands is only one of the few countries where you can't change your last name unfortunately.
😮no mud wrestling 😂
Definitely Netherlands !
Just look at the new president 👍🏻
Round 1 Netherlands (And I'm of French decent!)
My score is 3-3 however France wins cause dual citizenship is a must
Make Argentina VS Uruguay and Brazil VS México
Taxes that works but nothing like California or New York
Netherlands we are under water, it is dry but who knows how long
Neat concept: Combing through the strengths vs weaknesses, from the various options available out there in a fun, engaging format, that even an eighth-grader can relate to! Bravo, guys.
I'd choose France🇫🇷 (I'm a Citizen of 2 Countries. Neither is France or Netherlands).
France has more OST than the Netherlands. One doesn't have to live in Metropolitan France.
Netherlands amen for your love of people
Can anyone tell me if its a good idea to get the German citizenship? I have 2 years left and im taking German here at the university.
A lot of Americans and Germans complain about Germany so im nervous.
Please, someone help
For historical reasons, Germany requires your children to go to German schools: no private schools or home schooling. and so I don't know about other EU schools, but I wouldn't want Germany residency. Not enough personal freedom.
@@Tee55118 on the flip side, Germany is about to accept dual citizenship and reduce naturalization time from 8 to 5 years.
Taxes are high. Look what you get back.
What’s so great about a French passport if everyone wants another one besides? BTW beer over wine every day 😂
You can get a French passport after being married to a French citizen for 4-5 years (depending on certain conditions). Be prepared for certain checks though, they will make sure it is a real marriage, and not just for the papers (as they should). Also, marrying a French citizen resembles a bit like going through some kind of due diligence, I had to gather a nice bunch of papers (over 100 grams of them) to submit to the French authorities before they would allow me to marry my wife. They still go by some medieval system that a marriage has to be announced for 10 days in case somebody "objects"... so they will pin a paper somewhere announcing your wedding and providing there are no complains, they will give you the green light. I am not joking.
😂 few of my relatives are French citizens by birth . I never knew that .😂
The Dutch woman says: "The Netherlands doesn't allow dual citizenship except in certain circumstances [like] if you come from an EU country". Can anyone give more details? Is that true? I can't find anything about EU citizens' ability to get Dutch citizenship without losing their other EU passport(s). Is that correct?
What about a tournament? One v one. The winners go to next level until there are only two left. Here I would say France wins
Usa vs Canada please
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No benefits, both are in the EU and Schengen zone.
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both are crazy high tax countries with bad services and too much regulations for businesses. i wouldn't want either
I am Dutch but I dont think she is Dutch at all, she sounds like she isn't a Dutch native speaker.
She is not Dutch, she was just representing the Netherlands.
@@nomadcapitalist Clear, she did a great job representing though!
@joelr7208 here the confirmation :)
The Netherlands 🇳🇱
Netherlands ❤❤🔥🔥 All Aspects
Round 1 France
Round 2 Netherlands
Round 3 tie
Round 4 France
Round 5 Tie
Round 6 France
France wins but not a knockout.
Do they make Max Verstappen pay taxes was he able to expatriate?
Max lives in Monaco...😂
I have a Dutch passport a British one. You can have dual nationality but only under strict criteria which most people don’t qualify for
Doesn’t France gives their passport in 2 years if you graduate at France higher education?
When going through the process, you'll find that it's still a standard 6 years to obtain.
However, yes, it is offered as such.
I think you also have to work in the country for a period of time after graduation.
Depends of the type of education have to be doctors or lawyers to qualify
We can't hold dual citizenship in The Netherlands (with very limited exceptions). Huge freedom limiter! Hopefully this gets removed in the next couple of years, although I'm not positive on that since the biggest political party atm is against it.
A typical French breakfast is a baguette with jam, and a bad coffee.
and the insulin in the morning is skyrocketing
😂😂😂
Croissant 🥐 and a nice hot chocolate
Yes it's what google says and the restaurants serve normally
But as everywhere in the planet you eat according to your family's taste
After all being french is about having few french papers saying you are french
You can eat sausages, omelettes and grilled tomates, or a bowl of ramen and still be French
Saying that if u are a Netherland tax citizen or resident its almost impossible to leave it's very wrong.....Its not the USA were the taxes follow you all over the world. U can easily leave The Netherlands and live in a different country. If u unsubscribe yourself as a resident of The Netherlands with your local government, u do not have to pay taxes anymore. Also : if u want to stay an Dutch tax residenct u can still be in different countries for 8 months out of the 12 and stay a Dutch tax resident....
Not true at all, unregistering is simply not enough. The literal code says: it depends on facts and circumstances. Then you look at the court litetature and see that they have a huge list of things to call somebody a tax resident. Actually having a toothbrush is one of them not a joke.
Hmmm what kind of taxes are we talking about. If you just work for a company outside netherlands and have a bank account outside the eu you pretty much can skip taxes right?
@@burnout486 It actually is. I'm from The Netherlands and unregistered myself and still having my Dutch passport. they deliberately make it a vague concept in the law because there are many gray areas and then the government can apply how it suits them. Like u said : it depends on facts and circumstances. This is a very broad concept. If u unregister yourself and make sure u can proof u are an tax resident somewhere else, the NL government is not saying shit about this...Unregister and not being in the Netherlands for more then 6 months a year is surely enough not to get into any arguement with the government or what so ever.
@@luka1790 It depends where your residency is...
One note : IF u dont have any income from The Netherlands
Im french . We out of competition France as the highest taxe rate in the world lol. 40% plus. Who wants to give alf of is hard earn money? No one obviously!!
Aren’t the passports of both countries European ones anyway ? 😅
Very funny: I prefer Air France to KLM Royal Dutch Airlines; but, I prefer AMS Schiphol airport to CDG Paris airport. This is a fun lifestyle competition.
Air France owns KLM I think ...
@@Roberto-xc5xy
Isn't it a joint venture with slightly more power to AF?
My GG Grandmother would be upset but the netherlands seems to be more my flavor! Sorry Gramma!