I remember doing that farm in Arathi during 2019 Classic launch...I felt like such a bad man zooming past most people on my server. Those days were so electric.
Heads up on Arathi Peons/ Go'Shek Farm - your video shows them at like 1.1K/1.2K HP but on live right now they're 1.7K-1.8K HP. This extremely aggressive HP totals for Blizzard to handle at 32.
so if we are in a dungeon leveling grp with 2 mages, a tank, healer, and a warrior, would you reccomend both mages go frost? In theory then for every big pull 1 of the mages could use regen and LF + LB, while the other mage imp blizzards to keep them tight
Appreciate the video. Recently got back into WoW after learning about SoD and leveled a Mage. There's a decent amount of SoD content out there but generally it's surprisingly poor quality, this was definitely one of the exceptions and helped a lot...especially that Arathi farm which I was able to use for a few levels after becoming disheartened by how hard it was to quest after level 30 or so in some zones (especially STV) due to competition from higher-level players completing quests for gold.
slight issue with these farms or atleast something that makes it a lot harder is when phase 2 launches living flame heals for 20% dmg done instead of 80% dmg done so essentially you will be healing for nothing during aoe farms (especially stockades) just something to consider
Yep patch info came out like 2h after this video. It will still be fine unless you plan on sitting and tanking all the damage. It’ll still be nice for damage and heal top up
Sorry, but this is just not true - The farms are unchanged. 1 most of what he's recommending is farmable using blizzard, same as was done before SOD. 2. The nerf only effects very small AOE pulls that you're face-tanking with living flame; like four mobs. I just tested Stocks and with the nerf each living flame heal ticks for 5 per mob, your bar fills immediately; it feels no different.
Im sorry if there was a misunderstanding i merely meant that if you aren't very good at the game you might need some extra practice now that it is nerfed, since if you previously got hit quite a few times doing the stockades pull it didnt matter cause living flame healed a ton. Now it doesnt do that (hence the just something to consider) part. So im not saying its not doable i personally find all the farms in the video very doable atm im just saying its probably gonna be doable for less people due to skill issues :)@@720zone
I absolutely agree all farms are still very doable, just gotta be a little more careful with how much you facetank now :P great video absolute perfect amount of information about locations, specs etc@@ZeegersTV
Im level 23 and I am having issues where I run out of mana before I can finish them off with blizzard and I don't know what I am doing wrong. All of my gear is updated with of the eagle for +stam and INt
Can still be a nice heal as with blizzard you normally take damage just on the pull depending how crazy you went, if you were proficient before then you should still be fine without worrying about heals. It'll still increase the kill speed once every 1m though. With that said, burnout will be kind of nice for living bomb if you weave that in and decide against regen rune. I'd still go with living flame though, its going to be damage output every minute.
Fingers of Frost should be better than burnout in this setup -- since FOF combos well with shatter - and none are specific to "frost" spells - it works with the living bomb explosion and once you're 5/5 is well over the 15% crit of burnout.
@@PeejayVoW It 100% depends what were talking about. PVP? Yeah fingers of frost for sure! AOE? If you're actually utilizing living bomb, especially in dungeon AOE, burnout 100%. All situational. I was specifically talking about AOE pulls utilizing living bomb.
@ZeegersTV so am if. If you're using rank 1 blizzard to proc fingers of Frost with living bomb out, living bomb gains the 50% crit chance from 5/5 shatter on its explosion since neither FoF nor shatter are frost spell specific in SOD. Far outweighs the static 15% from burnout for AoE pulling. There's even a moderate hybrid fire build where you go 0/10/21 and get 5/5 ignite and 5/5 shatter for significant dps at the cost of some survivability- could potentially be the meta for spell cleave groups.
do you think frost/imp blizzard will still be the best spec? or do you think just going fire and killing 5-6 mobs with living bomb blast wave will be better faster?
Can pull more with blizzard safely without relying on a 1m living flame cd - I think it’ll still be tried n true but given we don’t know what future runes are who knows. Reality is when we start hitting of the same level mobs, they’ll destroy us if we don’t kill everything within living flame uptime. So again, definitely could but this is what we know currently and I felt like it was necessary to only cover what’s for sure.
The VoDs we pulled that footage from were on Classic HC before the SoD launch, so they've expired. HOWEVER, if you check the vid description I just edited in two Twitch Highlights that we had cut for the footage - one video starts at Level 31 and runs 12 minutes long, the other starts at level 37 and runs for 18 minutes. This should give you a better idea of what you're looking to accomplish as you go through the levels at this location. Hope this helps!
one more question if you don't mind. will our rotation here change with the new runes? how would you fit LB's and LV into the blizzard kite strat?@@Topher_IRL
Can still be a nice heal as with blizzard you normally take damage just on the pull depending how crazy you went, if you were proficient before then you should still be fine without worrying about heals. It'll still increase the kill speed once every 1m though. With that said, burnout will be kind of nice for living bomb if you weave that in and decide against regen rune. I'd still go with living flame though, its going to be damage output every minute.
@@ZeegersTV True. I still plan on using it. It just turned into a mid spell. Haven't thought about other combos. LF was amazing and so fun. Now it's just.... dmg. Kind of boring.
I like this young man. He's very knowledgeable - with a mustache like that you know he's an expert on nearly any subject. Most young people these days just want to play Fortnite so it's refreshing to see some young people that like playing old slow games like in the good old days.
Great guide but just like every other one out there it’s alliance focused. Thankfully I’m familiar with the horde spots but it seems I have to look twice as hard to find any content for the baddies 🤷♂️
A lot of these are dual. IE: Gnolls both factions can. Worgens both can. Goshek farm, there's an horde one same zone. I should have probably touched on it though. I rifted this off one evening and mentioned from my POV.
Haha thanks for the throwback! I love ZG so much fun Had TH-cam for a while but I sucked at it back in classic wow, didn’t get much out. Much better now as my editor Topher is fantastic!
With regeneration, living bomb and living flame, this is no longer the fastest AoE route. No need to wait for Blizzard. And when u get arcane explosion at level 14, it becomes even more faster
There’s a spot in arathi for horde too, a camp in the north-north west area. I just didn’t mention it by accident. Only thing alliance exclusive is stockades.
Slander? Jokerd killed it on world first. Brought a lot of eyes onto what mages were capable of. Regardless, layering is insanely strong, and it speeds stuff up. There were no negative mentions toward what layering is & was. TBH I wish you could still hop as fast as before. I did it too. Especially getting into the 40s and 50s layer swapping really starts to shine. Go outside and stop looking for drama where there isn't any.
Mages tend to level faster than other classes because they slow all other classes down by default by tagging everyone else's mobs. It must be cool to be able to do that, but everyone else is thinking "what a selfish A-hole" 😅
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I remember doing that farm in Arathi during 2019 Classic launch...I felt like such a bad man zooming past most people on my server. Those days were so electric.
The original classic launch was fkn amazing
Heads up on Arathi Peons/ Go'Shek Farm - your video shows them at like 1.1K/1.2K HP but on live right now they're 1.7K-1.8K HP. This extremely aggressive HP totals for Blizzard to handle at 32.
yeah but you throw in living flame and living bomb
I went there at 31 and was fine w/ living flame and bomb. Easily doable!
so if we are in a dungeon leveling grp with 2 mages, a tank, healer, and a warrior, would you reccomend both mages go frost? In theory then for every big pull 1 of the mages could use regen and LF + LB, while the other mage imp blizzards to keep them tight
Trying to level my mage. Should I go frost, fire, or arcane? I seem to have mana issues constantly with fire.
Appreciate the video. Recently got back into WoW after learning about SoD and leveled a Mage. There's a decent amount of SoD content out there but generally it's surprisingly poor quality, this was definitely one of the exceptions and helped a lot...especially that Arathi farm which I was able to use for a few levels after becoming disheartened by how hard it was to quest after level 30 or so in some zones (especially STV) due to competition from higher-level players completing quests for gold.
Huge compliment, thank you !
Ive tried to Aoe farm so many times now and i cant seem to keep my mobs together its just so hard for me i dont know what to do :(
any update to account for LF getting nerfed to the ground
sry for my question but can you show me your talents? is that a frostmage build?
That's such a nice thumbnail
Thanks! Big shoutout to my wonderful editor Topher! ❤️
@@ZeegersTV Topher did an incredible job, literally showed this thumbnail off to a few people lol.
slight issue with these farms or atleast something that makes it a lot harder is when phase 2 launches living flame heals for 20% dmg done instead of 80% dmg done so essentially you will be healing for nothing during aoe farms (especially stockades) just something to consider
Yep patch info came out like 2h after this video. It will still be fine unless you plan on sitting and tanking all the damage. It’ll still be nice for damage and heal top up
Sorry, but this is just not true - The farms are unchanged. 1 most of what he's recommending is farmable using blizzard, same as was done before SOD. 2. The nerf only effects very small AOE pulls that you're face-tanking with living flame; like four mobs. I just tested Stocks and with the nerf each living flame heal ticks for 5 per mob, your bar fills immediately; it feels no different.
Im sorry if there was a misunderstanding i merely meant that if you aren't very good at the game you might need some extra practice now that it is nerfed, since if you previously got hit quite a few times doing the stockades pull it didnt matter cause living flame healed a ton. Now it doesnt do that (hence the just something to consider) part. So im not saying its not doable i personally find all the farms in the video very doable atm im just saying its probably gonna be doable for less people due to skill issues :)@@720zone
I absolutely agree all farms are still very doable, just gotta be a little more careful with how much you facetank now :P great video absolute perfect amount of information about locations, specs etc@@ZeegersTV
do you have an aoe leveling guide for a new mage leveling?
horde level 34 range? Outside of Scarlet Monastery
thanks zeegers, this is quite the video. as the best mage in your guild, i will make a lot of use of this.
😂
How geared do you need to be for this?
Not much. Just focus on getting eagle gear or anything with stam / int. More of these two stats the better / more mobs you can pull at once!
Does the stocks thing still work?
yes
what about wetlands, i don't see anyone doing it since sod, it was quitte a great spot in classic 1.0
like always zeegers guide is amazing
you can farm the worgens on the farm, theyre lvl 26-29 , until you get a couple levels and move to the mines
Shatter works with living bomb according to the tooltip, wouldnt that be better for aoe farming?
the world aoe spots might be cool, but I'm probably only going to be dungeon grinding with a few mages
Good plan!
Im level 23 and I am having issues where I run out of mana before I can finish them off with blizzard and I don't know what I am doing wrong. All of my gear is updated with of the eagle for +stam and INt
Lack of spellpower :( I think he's assuming a lot of ppl have BFD gear
Go'Shek Farm before 34 is aids with the amount of heartbeat breaks and resists on novas
Maybe was way more forgiving when regen rune was in easy-mode
whats talent you use ?
How do you get that zoomout so far?
They nerfed living flame/regeneration for p2, healing is decreased by 80% as for arcane explosion.
Can still be a nice heal as with blizzard you normally take damage just on the pull depending how crazy you went, if you were proficient before then you should still be fine without worrying about heals. It'll still increase the kill speed once every 1m though.
With that said, burnout will be kind of nice for living bomb if you weave that in and decide against regen rune.
I'd still go with living flame though, its going to be damage output every minute.
Living flame IS on the .leg slot though
Fingers of Frost should be better than burnout in this setup -- since FOF combos well with shatter - and none are specific to "frost" spells - it works with the living bomb explosion and once you're 5/5 is well over the 15% crit of burnout.
@@PeejayVoW It 100% depends what were talking about. PVP? Yeah fingers of frost for sure! AOE? If you're actually utilizing living bomb, especially in dungeon AOE, burnout 100%.
All situational. I was specifically talking about AOE pulls utilizing living bomb.
@ZeegersTV so am if. If you're using rank 1 blizzard to proc fingers of Frost with living bomb out, living bomb gains the 50% crit chance from 5/5 shatter on its explosion since neither FoF nor shatter are frost spell specific in SOD. Far outweighs the static 15% from burnout for AoE pulling. There's even a moderate hybrid fire build where you go 0/10/21 and get 5/5 ignite and 5/5 shatter for significant dps at the cost of some survivability- could potentially be the meta for spell cleave groups.
Any horde on lone Wolfe wanna dungeon grind this weekend. Near bis mage here lol!
haha, good plan and good luck!
I would. Have a mage, rogue, warrior, or hunter. Add me. Mage name is Woemanbad
Or warrior is Fordtauren
Or hunter is Cmetrolling
Or rogue is Zirogue
what an amazing guide I cant wait to use it to level my mage in sod p2
You arent going to be able to pull in any of these world spots. Gonna be massive contention
@@oXoInterventionoXo just got to get the right layer man it will be easy
do you think frost/imp blizzard will still be the best spec? or do you think just going fire and killing 5-6 mobs with living bomb blast wave will be better faster?
Can pull more with blizzard safely without relying on a 1m living flame cd - I think it’ll still be tried n true but given we don’t know what future runes are who knows. Reality is when we start hitting of the same level mobs, they’ll destroy us if we don’t kill everything within living flame uptime. So again, definitely could but this is what we know currently and I felt like it was necessary to only cover what’s for sure.
Hey im looking to check out the arathi spot, got any vods for me of people farming this?
The VoDs we pulled that footage from were on Classic HC before the SoD launch, so they've expired. HOWEVER, if you check the vid description I just edited in two Twitch Highlights that we had cut for the footage - one video starts at Level 31 and runs 12 minutes long, the other starts at level 37 and runs for 18 minutes. This should give you a better idea of what you're looking to accomplish as you go through the levels at this location.
Hope this helps!
@@Topher_IRL ty bro
one more question if you don't mind. will our rotation here change with the new runes? how would you fit LB's and LV into the blizzard kite strat?@@Topher_IRL
can you farm as horde in stormwind ? xD
After stockades is there any dungon that mage can solo farm?
Maybe graveyard depending on personal skill. I could see a couple mages in there clapping cheeks on some pulls.
Link to your AOE farming spec? @ZeegersTV
08:56 - There's a spec for pre-40 leveling and he breaks down talent order.
Regen or living flame worth it? It's getting nerfed into the ground like AE
Can still be a nice heal as with blizzard you normally take damage just on the pull depending how crazy you went, if you were proficient before then you should still be fine without worrying about heals. It'll still increase the kill speed once every 1m though.
With that said, burnout will be kind of nice for living bomb if you weave that in and decide against regen rune.
I'd still go with living flame though, its going to be damage output every minute.
@@ZeegersTV True. I still plan on using it. It just turned into a mid spell. Haven't thought about other combos. LF was amazing and so fun. Now it's just.... dmg. Kind of boring.
is there some order for picking talents?
Wow what a knowledgeable and handsome young man
peter puffer
@@mlok1376 weirdo alert
I like this young man. He's very knowledgeable - with a mustache like that you know he's an expert on nearly any subject. Most young people these days just want to play Fortnite so it's refreshing to see some young people that like playing old slow games like in the good old days.
what about the living flame nerf
Great guide but just like every other one out there it’s alliance focused. Thankfully I’m familiar with the horde spots but it seems I have to look twice as hard to find any content for the baddies 🤷♂️
A lot of these are dual. IE: Gnolls both factions can. Worgens both can. Goshek farm, there's an horde one same zone. I should have probably touched on it though. I rifted this off one evening and mentioned from my POV.
yoo when did you start youtube lol. ive never seen you on here and i been watchin the streams off an on since zg runs in 2019 lol
Haha thanks for the throwback! I love ZG so much fun
Had TH-cam for a while but I sucked at it back in classic wow, didn’t get much out. Much better now as my editor Topher is fantastic!
living flame +regen healing is nerfed as of today. regen does 80% less healing for any spell that hurts multiple targets
Living flame dont heal anymore - as much as it did
finally mage content again
Haha yes! We hit a lot of games so you'll see a mix of things =)
So this was a guide for alliance mages, cool nothing for horde?
no nothing for horde sucka
They nerfed regen so living flame heals for barely anything now
These spots are gonna be farmed so hard tho :(
best of luck getting those spots to yourself during early p2
Yeah it’ll be tough for sure, much like every quest location. Dungeon grinding will be one of the consistent routes imo.
now I'm a mage player
All this place are will full on mages, best way is dungeon.
With regeneration, living bomb and living flame, this is no longer the fastest AoE route. No need to wait for Blizzard. And when u get arcane explosion at level 14, it becomes even more faster
All those people trying to quest, whilst gold farmers AoE pull... hmmm
If you wanna stand around and wait for spawns to loot your 8th Pristine Bear Ass, by all means.
@@Topher_IRL Awwww bless. Hark at you. Well done for your response. I bet you feel all manly now?
Just write alliance on the guide, it's ok bro.
You should put "Alliance" in the title. As a horde player this video was of little help.
There’s a spot in arathi for horde too, a camp in the north-north west area. I just didn’t mention it by accident. Only thing alliance exclusive is stockades.
this guy just coming in and slandering jokerd i started watching him around lvl 40, he layered a handful of times
Slander? Jokerd killed it on world first. Brought a lot of eyes onto what mages were capable of. Regardless, layering is insanely strong, and it speeds stuff up. There were no negative mentions toward what layering is & was. TBH I wish you could still hop as fast as before. I did it too. Especially getting into the 40s and 50s layer swapping really starts to shine. Go outside and stop looking for drama where there isn't any.
Mages tend to level faster than other classes because they slow all other classes down by default by tagging everyone else's mobs. It must be cool to be able to do that, but everyone else is thinking "what a selfish A-hole" 😅
There’s few quests that are in these locations. With that said hate the game, not the player! 😎🤙
forget open world lvling u play in pvp server dungeon farm is best rfc then sm and congratz u r 40