Rings of Power is Not Very Good: Breakdown and Analysis - Part 7: The Eye

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  • Full review, breakdown and analysis of the penultimate episode from season 1 of Rings of Power. As with the season, this episode gets worse and worse...
    00:00 - Eruption aftermath
    01:59 - The Grove
    12:24 - Elrond's negotiation
    22:46 - Negotiation aftermath
    31:53 - Galadriel and Theo pt. 1
    36:30 - Elendil and the cliffhanger
    37:42 - Galadriel and Theo pt. 2
    39:38 - Miriel is blind
    41:50 - Not-Gandalf departs
    43:47 - The Celeborn Conundrum
    46:22 - Galadriel and Theo pt. 3
    51:59 - Illegal mining
    56:07 - Father/son chat
    59:44 - Enter Androgynites
    1:05:01 - The encampment
    1:07:16 - The dismantling of Elendil
    1:11:11 - Theo finds Bronwyn
    1:13:27 - Numenor will return
    1:17:01 - I'm going on an adventure
    1:24:06 - Oh yeah, Halbrand exists
    1:26:16 - Disa, Durin and the Balrog
    1:29:17 - Mordor
    1:30:01 - Harfoots plot analysis
    1:35:47 - Khazad-Dum plot analysis
    1:39:17 - Southlands plot analysis
    1:43:06 - Conclusion
    1:44:31 - Outro
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  • @MariaIsabellaZNN
    @MariaIsabellaZNN ปีที่แล้ว +567

    When I heard a second season is coming, all I could think of was
    "By all accounts, it doesn't make sense."

    • @Mdhneo007
      @Mdhneo007 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Mine was like, Yay more Nerdrotic, Disparu, Little Platoon and Random Film Talk videos!

    • @resathe6760
      @resathe6760 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Mdhneo007don't forget charlie hopkinson ;D

    • @TallisKeeton
      @TallisKeeton ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Mdhneo007 and Johny Law :)

    • @Sinewmire
      @Sinewmire ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "I know, it's all wrong. By rights, we shouldn't even be here!"

    • @Ugly_German_Truths
      @Ugly_German_Truths 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At least go with a classical and not quite so overused memes like The Office's Michael Scott shouting "No, god, please no! NOOOO!"
      The ENG memes have long overstayed any welcome the way RFT abuses them.

  • @breendart134
    @breendart134 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    The changing name card to "Mordor" legitimately made me laugh, it's such a goofy, unnecessary, immersion-breaking thing to do. Like the writers reaching through the screen to say, "Look! It's Mordor! See? We made a Mordor! It says Mordor on it! Isn't that clever? How we made it do a dramatic change? Isn't that a cool effect with the letters? Because it's Mordor now. Get it?"

    • @lesdeuxanes6203
      @lesdeuxanes6203 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Which in any Tolkein work evil and corruption is a slow process. It even shows in the trilogy with Sauruman that he has to have the orcs and Urakhai burn and build for a long time for Isengard to become as it does by the events of the Two Towers.
      Which you know, had depth and meaning. Here a volcano erupts and poof a mordor appears.

    • @tonys9397
      @tonys9397 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And then they didn’t do it for Sauron 😂 smh

  • @ethanhunstiger4868
    @ethanhunstiger4868 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    The queen survived a pyroclastic flow but got blinded by some embers.

    • @oldkingspook
      @oldkingspook ปีที่แล้ว +65

      By all accounts it doesn't make sense

    • @brandencullinan8886
      @brandencullinan8886 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      The sea is always right.

    • @jeremymott
      @jeremymott 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Her father did say that if she went that only darkness was in her future

    • @silviuvisan505
      @silviuvisan505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jeremymott😂

    • @Karpfenkroete
      @Karpfenkroete 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@jeremymott I bet they felt really smart after coming up with that foreshadowing

  • @ja-vishaara
    @ja-vishaara 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    - Doesn't trust elves
    - Trusts elves
    Peak character design

  • @RookieTravelDiaries
    @RookieTravelDiaries ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Honestly, thanks to this show, I have been introduced to whole new style of storytelling.
    There are stories that are character-driven. there are stories that are plot-driven
    This masterpiece right here, is writers-driven!
    They literally write whatever THEY want to happen. it doesn't matter who does it, how they do it, when they do it and to whom they do it, as long as it happens.
    It's bold!
    Stupid, but BOLD!

  • @wolfsong4720
    @wolfsong4720 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    I hate the fact they wake up the Balrog here! I believe it even says in the movie that the Balrog was awoke because of CENTURIES of the dwarves mining mithril, and that they became too greedy with how much they mined. Rings of Power released the Balrog because Durin was loyal to his friend and trying to do something to help save his life.

    • @Klickor
      @Klickor ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It is also about an entire full age of 3000 years too early. If I remember correctly it was in the middle of the TA it awoke and RoP is like 1500 years into SA which spanned for over 3000 years.

    • @BWMagus
      @BWMagus ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And then the Balrog just sort of sat around. Even with the condensed timeline this show is creating, there's still, what, 1000 years or something between the Last Alliance battling Sauron, and the events of LotR, and Moria was only somewhat recently destroyed before that, so what the fuck was the Balrog doing all this time? Did he have to dig UP to get to the dwarves or something?

    • @TheGamingplayer12
      @TheGamingplayer12 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Durin and his father are too early too tbf durin’s bane is a third age thing Gandalf arriving is second age sauron’s rise is second age isildur and elendil are too early too they grabbed a ton of different events from the story and mashed them together

    • @Sinewmire
      @Sinewmire ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@BWMagus trying to hide from God!

    • @MichaelFrenchCPA
      @MichaelFrenchCPA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Klickor Bah, nobody ever gets out of bed on the first alarm. I'm sure he hit the snooze for another couple thousand years.

  • @invidatauro8922
    @invidatauro8922 ปีที่แล้ว +585

    The only good thing about this show is that it's introduced me to two new amazing content creators.
    Little Platoon and of course Random Film Talk

    • @Razzlion
      @Razzlion ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Disparu is great too if you don't watchi his stuff already haha

    • @invidatauro8922
      @invidatauro8922 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Razzlion Oh I knew about him already before this show.

    • @HateshWarkio
      @HateshWarkio ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It introduced me to Random Film Talk only BUT Subscribed and now even with the dumb Bell

    • @CorporateComedy
      @CorporateComedy ปีที่แล้ว +11

      check out: just some guy, reaper, the woke critic, critical drinker, crappy film reviews, will likes movies - all uniquely funny and hate ROP, tearing it the proverbial new one.

    • @yagamifire7861
      @yagamifire7861 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hear Hear!

  • @eugene8498
    @eugene8498 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Elrond: I never broke my promise. I told no one the Dwarves found mithril.
    Also Elrond: Gil-galad apparently approved of my mission to buy mithril from the Dwarves and must be informed of the result.

  • @dandare9055
    @dandare9055 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    You forgot one crucial character that cannot be dead by any means... in fact considering timeline: two characters.
    Celeborn and Celebrian both need to be well and alive, for many reasons but one of main being that Arwen needs to be born.

    • @brendancoulter5761
      @brendancoulter5761 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Yeah most people dont know Galadriel is Arwen's grandmother. Seemingly Amazon doent either.

    • @ChallengeIdeas
      @ChallengeIdeas ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@brendancoulter5761 They certainly don't seem aware that Galadriel is Elrond's mother-in-law.

    • @morbidone88
      @morbidone88 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@brendancoulter5761 ofc they don't know, they've admitted as much and more... the single worst travesty since star wars, and trek if you are a trekky

    • @whom382
      @whom382 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@morbidone88 I hadn't thought about this till just now, but RoP is worse than Picard Season 2 and infinitely better than The Last Jedi (never watched RoS).

    • @morbidone88
      @morbidone88 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@whom382 i.I.. I agree lol.

  • @TallisKeeton
    @TallisKeeton ปีที่แล้ว +66

    If Galadriel's husband was lost after the birth of their daughter Celebrian than this means that Galadriel in the series forgot to tell us also about the existence of Celebrian and where she is all the time when her mom is traipsing all over the world? :D

    • @paulvontarsus729
      @paulvontarsus729 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      They killed off Celeborn because they wanted Galadriel to be a strong independent woman

    • @YouWillBeHappyOrElse
      @YouWillBeHappyOrElse 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Ironically, while Galadriel was the worst choice for the character they have created, Celebrian might have been better.
      1. "I'm looking for my dad while my mom is busy planting a forest kingdom, and also if I happen to take out Sauron then that's a bonus" is a solid character motivation. It would also explain why she has zero interest in going to Valinor (and make her later journey because of her PTSD the more poignant).
      2. The potential tension with Elrond! They're both young and trying to find their place in the world, so that would make them foils; they're way the hell in love but can't stand each other sometimes; the possible fascination triangle with Halbrand (and this giving a personal reason for Elrond and Galadriel to question this guy's motivations).
      3. There's not a lot of description of Celebrian in Tolkien's actual work, so liberties can (indeed must) be taken. It'd be a chance to also give a stronger character to someone whose primary acts in canon were "follow Mom around, be a wife and mother, and then be a damsel in distress before fading off to Valinor." (I'm not complaining of those things because most people, male or female, have pretty much that story, but others with a taste for Strong Independent Women Characters frequently do, so there you are.)

    • @TallisKeeton
      @TallisKeeton 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YouWillBeHappyOrElse yes, strong points of how to fix it :)

  • @clpearson991
    @clpearson991 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I'm living for the Yzma Kronk face fusion and constant emperor's new groove-ing that happens here

  • @laurie6736
    @laurie6736 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    I don’t know what I was more excited about- sitting down to watch this video or seeing that it was 1 hour and 45 min! Pretty certain that length equals a certain amount of pain for you- please know it is appreciated by the fans of your work. Thank you!!

  • @takeoffthyshoes
    @takeoffthyshoes ปีที่แล้ว +88

    My wife and I hate watched this series. It is so great for someone to document the absurdity! You are providing more entertainment on your channel than that billion dollar joke of a show! I am a enthusiastic subscriber, keep up the great work!

  • @Mr.Silver78
    @Mr.Silver78 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    Babe, wake up. Random Film Talk released a new video

    • @dtl19
      @dtl19 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I’ll put the kettle on ❤

    • @troffle
      @troffle ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I'M AWAKE I'M AWAKE gimme a sec

    • @-MrFozzy-
      @-MrFozzy- ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha…yooooooou don’t have a girlfriend!😬

    • @neonwolf9526
      @neonwolf9526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sigma energy😎

    • @Natusian
      @Natusian ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey, you. You're finally awake.

  • @saddlerrye6725
    @saddlerrye6725 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Guys... I had a revelation... Rings of Power is NOT about Galadriel and Sauron. It's about Feanor and Morgoth! They just reskinned them because of contractual reasons or so that the movie fans could also recognise the names of the main character and the BBEG
    Feanor in the books:
    - a condescending jerk
    - swore revenge on the BBEG after the death of a family member (and because of the silmarillion)
    - dragged a bunch of people into his revenge
    - refused to stay in (in Galadriel's case return to) Valinor and pursued said revenge instead
    - demanded ships from a seafaring nation to return to Middle Earth
    - when he didn't get the ships he massacred them all (Galadriel only threatened to do so)
    Morgoth in the books:
    - after his first major defeat he saw the error of his ways and genuinely tried to better the world
    - couldn't deny his nature for a long time and started to create things that are not quite innocuous
    - after slipping back into his darker side he became as evil as he could
    - he was injured by a creature that he corrupted to be evil (Ungoliant for Morgoth, Adar for Sauron, though Ungoliant's origins are not really sure)
    - obsessed with the shinies

    • @shadowdante1102
      @shadowdante1102 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Damn, that makes way more sense

    • @Xapheion101
      @Xapheion101 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This is a brilliant theory

    • @alexkats30
      @alexkats30 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      That's way too smart for the writers, given how they have failed in most things they tried to do in this season

    • @plebisMaximus
      @plebisMaximus ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Feanor was a lot more likable and justified

    • @rosiehawtrey
      @rosiehawtrey ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That does make more sense than this drivelling cack but the weakness of the theory rests on there being enough space in the writers brain to process so much information at once. This is like watching something scripted by AI running dual networked BBC 'B's compared to the supercomputer material of LOTR or (arguably) The Hobbit..
      Hmm.. An AI that runs off a 64k 6502 and loads off a tape deck- well Colchester Hospital managed to run a MRI scanner off precisely that... 🥺

  • @matthewmiller8297
    @matthewmiller8297 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    "Mediocrity combines into amorphous cosmic soup" Wow i love this channel

    • @TallisKeeton
      @TallisKeeton ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and this cosmic soup created the Turtle :) And all will make sense again if we agree that its not Middle-Earth but the Discworld :)

  • @blinkanimals9720
    @blinkanimals9720 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I cannot WAIT for episode 8 🤣
    You've managed to create INFINITELY MORE anticipation for your final video in this series than the actual BILLION DOLLAR series was able to inspire in me, I can't wait, it's going to be EPIC😂

  • @Janx14
    @Janx14 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The volcanoe was clearly so evil it had no heat...unless you weren't a main character?

    • @troffle
      @troffle ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The surviving main characters were the cold-sinks of evil.

  • @maxtracker2904
    @maxtracker2904 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Greatly appreciate the focus on lack of story-telling rather than nit-picking the (admittedly woeful) lack of adherence to the lore. The writers want this to “be it’s own thing” and it’s nice to see it dissected on that basis 👍

  • @zirkalda9502
    @zirkalda9502 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    You know what the kicker with the Mithril storyline for me is? That the writers can’t even capitalize on their breaking the lore. They decided to have Mithril created via the power of a Silmaril. We have seen this to be true. The Mithril should be completely irrelevant to the elves. They should want the jewel and that creates a whole host of personal conflicts just ripe for storytelling. The elves could easily be divided over it. On one side you have Elrond wanting to leave the jewel where it is due to the Silmarils causing nothing but problems and that the elves should be content with negotiating for the Mithril. Celebrimbor on the opposite end wants this heirloom created by his own grandfather and is fully behind reclaiming it by force. Both can go back and forth over the issue as they try to convince Gil-Galad to support their course of action while there is a ticking clock on the Elves adding even further pressure. The fact the Silmaril is inside Khazad-Dum creates an even greater conflict for Elrond as the Dwarves would naturally claim it as theirs as it is inside *their* mine in *their* mountain. Elrond could have been sent to Khazad-Dum to verify the Mithril and thus the Silmaril under order of secrecy but his conscience wins out and he confides to his friend Durin the truth. They’re trying to negotiate to quietly get the Silmaril out when word reaches the king of the Jewel so now it is his decision and he is fully in favor of withholding the Silmaril and making the elves pay for access to Mithril on top of it. I can go on but I think you get the idea.

  • @Henkvanpeer
    @Henkvanpeer ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I think the writers did not really write this show. They found a scroll of fan fiction on the beach.., made some small adjustments, like “The sea is always right”….😂

    • @zenocrate4040
      @zenocrate4040 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I read fanfics as a teenager, Illuvatar help me, but despaired of humanity and stopped. But having that trauma in my backlog I don’t think there are enough ‘slash’ or Mpregs in this show for your hypothesis to hold true. But then again, I read Tolkien and therefore didn’t watch it so you might well be reading correct.

    • @tsubakiwi
      @tsubakiwi หลายเดือนก่อน

      i can't agree, most fanfics are written better than this show :/

  • @JohnnyOrc
    @JohnnyOrc ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I want to call out and criticize something about "Prince Durin". Despite him being one of the few enjoyable characters for most of the season:
    He let Elrond in to do this made up ritual to maybe get a boon. This is despite the fact that Elrond has been apparently absent with no word for 20 years. In that time, Durin has gotten married, and supposedly had 2 kids (though I don't believe we've ever seen them). Now, Durin is the crown prince of Khazad-dûm. Royal weddings are no small affair. This means, reasonably, that the elves would have been at least notified about it. This also means, reasonably, that Durin would invite his good friend Elrond to his wedding. Thus, Elrond not only ignored the personal invitation of his friend, but also ignored the formal notice of one sovereign nation to another. This means that Elrond being personally banned from Khazad-dûm is entirely reasonable, and should be expected. Heck, there would probably also be a formal notice to Lindon that their initial friendship is on thin ice, and that Elrond in particular is no longer welcome.
    What am I getting at with this? Despite all this, Durin has tried to mend fences with Elrond. He allowed him to stay even though the special made up ritual means he was supposed to be banished. He made him welcome in his home despite Elrond's terrible apology. And now Elrond has admitted that he voluntarily flubbed the ritual, and is only here to take advantage of his friendship with Durin to get mithril. From Durin & Disa's perspective, Elrond is evil. He has repeatedly abused their trust and friendship. Sure, it is revealed this was to "save" the elves from having to flee back to Valinor, but this hardly excuses all of his prior actions. King Durin is entirely in the right to kick out the elves and forbid them mithril. That is the least of what I would do in his place. Prince Durin fighting back in regards to this only shows to the king that the prince is entirely unsuited to being a king. He doesn't have the requisite ability to judge character.

    • @cy-one
      @cy-one ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Just FYI, we do _hear_ his children in one episode.
      Besides that I generally, if not in every detail, agree with the remainder of what you've said.
      As Random Film Talky Person has mentioned, Elrond is a dishonest liar at this point.

    • @JohnnyOrc
      @JohnnyOrc ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@cy-one I'm aware we hear them, that's why I used the word "seen". :) Given that they used child actors for various other scenes, I can't imagine it would have been all that costly to put a couple of kids in dwarf costumes for Durin's home scenes.

    • @Takaoshi
      @Takaoshi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The show was terrible, but we did see his kids the first time we were at their house. The kids ran into each other wearing durins giant head things on their head. Never saw them after that

    • @shamrockdragon7634
      @shamrockdragon7634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we do 'see' them, they're wearing those helmet head things, but I don't think we actually see their faces at any point

    • @awsome182
      @awsome182 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What bothers me even more is that a King Durin and a Prince Durin exist at the same time.

  • @anapoda3081
    @anapoda3081 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    sad thing is, Finrod's story in lore is actually very cool

    • @jeremymott
      @jeremymott 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Finrod's death was badass and heroic

    • @drakonlegend4452
      @drakonlegend4452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jeremymott was he the one with beren? Enlighten me…

    • @TeutonicKnight92
      @TeutonicKnight92 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@drakonlegend4452he died fighting werewolves in the Sauron’s dungeons after losing an “epic rap battle” with Sauron. His death would allow Beren to escape

    • @GeordieSwordsman
      @GeordieSwordsman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@TeutonicKnight92 With his bare hands no less, after bursting out of the chains that held him. And lets not forget, Beren was expecting to get the aid of some of Finrod's household troops at most when he went to Nargothrond, not the Lord himself going "Come on lad, lets go." Finrod was the biggest bro in Middle Earth.

    • @caskinfg
      @caskinfg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@GeordieSwordsman And he was the original owner of the ring Aragorn is wearing in the LotR movies (the one Grima tells Saruman about)

  • @DarkestApe
    @DarkestApe ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The way I see it is that Miriel is actually declaring war on the volcano. What reason does she have to believe that orcs had anything to do with the volcano erupting? Emmy level writing!

  • @fourleggedlys
    @fourleggedlys ปีที่แล้ว +7

    'They go boom
    And there's fire
    And the rocks, they fly away, and it's really cool, it is
    Mom, what are we having for dinner?' 😂🤣

  • @craigmartinj
    @craigmartinj ปีที่แล้ว +47

    The pyroclastic blast didn't even singe Galadriel's hair.... is Elf hair made of the same substance the ceramic tiles on the Space shuttle are made of to survive re-entry? Another great review!

    • @troffle
      @troffle ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Now you know why Gil-Galad wants mithril so badly.

    • @Makkaru112
      @Makkaru112 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@troffle turns out mithril was already a thing in the first age and it definitely wasn't the dwarves first using it. ;)

    • @hans471
      @hans471 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Short answer: yes! 👍

  • @dariovirga7711
    @dariovirga7711 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Great! I disagree on the writers being manipulative swines, as it's both an insult to swines and implies that they're cunning enough to manipulate, instead of being just egocentric zombies

    • @maximillian1109
      @maximillian1109 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pigs for sure gets the short end of the stick when it comes to metaphores... They are amazing animals!

  • @OldKnightAMV
    @OldKnightAMV ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I went back and watched The Lord of the rings trilogy and it definitely helped. It's amazing how things made so long ago can be so much better in so many ways than what we produce now.

  • @doomsdaybooty1072
    @doomsdaybooty1072 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I really enjoy the cutaways to the list of character traits. They're so loungecore

  • @shannonharris3233
    @shannonharris3233 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Ive literally been waiting weeks for this. I am ashamed to admit how many times ive watched part 1-6...love the analysis and humor. The humor is sublime. About to binge this one. Straight from Jamaica! Keep up the work @RandomFilmTalk

  • @brandencullinan8886
    @brandencullinan8886 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I can't believe it's taken me until episode 7 to realize that Nori and Poppy are meant to allude to Frodo and Sam.

  • @perkypink
    @perkypink ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I got so BORED watching ROP (quit watching in the the middle of episode 5) but your analysis is infinitely more entertaining! It’s well done, beautifully thought out, and i just appreciate how justified you make me feel in not loving something I was pumped to see. BRAVO

  • @CptAvenger
    @CptAvenger ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "You've kind of got to have worse eyesight than Ray Charles or worse cognitive ability than well...Patrick McKay and John D. Payne to not see what they are doing here."
    So damn right!

  • @shamrockdragon7634
    @shamrockdragon7634 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Also, remember that Isildur's horse runs off when the volcano erupts. How much you want to bet that they're gonna rip off the horse finding Aragorn in Two Towers, by having Isildur's horse find Isildur in season 2?

  • @DarkValorWolf
    @DarkValorWolf ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I have been so engrossed in these videos that I'd forgotten to subscribe... Best Rings of Power analysis vids out there, by far! You're the only one who doesn't constantly attack the actors and more, but actually focuses on the writing.

  • @evdweide
    @evdweide ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Dude, you're awesome for doing this series.

  • @invidatauro8922
    @invidatauro8922 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Wouldn't the entire Harfoot story make more sense if it was about Brandy wanting to STOP going places? That she didn't like migrating and wanted to find a place for the harfoots to settle down and cultivate and grow to their own community? You know, to give a backstory to the Shire (I know Tolkien has one but these writers suck so....)

    • @doomsdaybooty1072
      @doomsdaybooty1072 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That would make tremendously more sense, so you can guarantee it never occurred to them. It would also have made sense to disclude the entire Harfoot plot, along with discount stoner Gandalf

    • @bry8636
      @bry8636 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It would make the most sense to leave hobbits out of the second age altogether.
      That’s not a small detail. Bringing hobbits into the second age diminishes their emergence and deeds in the Third age.
      So it has a greater effect than the simple appearance of hobbits in the SA. It lessens the impact of their triumphs in the Third Age.
      Which is also why the Balrog is a problem.
      Gandalf had a hard time believing a Balrog could still exist given that they’d been gone for an entire age (all of the SA and almost all of the third). He almost certainly wouldn’t have taken the fellowship to Moria had he known a Balrog still existed.
      More importantly, it diminishes Gandalf’s iconic scene if balrogs are more commonplace.
      The wonder of the Balrog comes largely from the fact that it was an ancient beast, no more than a myth to all but the oldest elves, from an age of great power.
      So throwing in a Balrog, whether it’s Durin’s Bane or not, steps hard on Tolkien’s most iconic work.

    • @TallisKeeton
      @TallisKeeton ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@doomsdaybooty1072 discount stoner Gandalf
      🤣🤣🤣

  • @slavoljubd6036
    @slavoljubd6036 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I think that the amount of time I've spent watching content ridiculing this limo-wreck of a show is 20 times longer than the show itself.
    But nothing provided more of that perverse catharsis than your analyses. Thank you!!!

  • @sharksbreath7
    @sharksbreath7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The time wasted on the interaction between Galadriel and Theo is puzzling. Did they just pull two names out of a hat and put them together? If they had done the same with say Halbrand and Isildur that could have been interesting - considering what the future holds.

  • @Panz82
    @Panz82 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    the father's reaction in 300 when his son gets beheaded by the persians is waaaaaaaaaaaaay more belivable

    • @TallisKeeton
      @TallisKeeton ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always expected to see in this TV show Pharazon you got in avatar. You know the proper Pharazon :)

  • @glanni
    @glanni ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This eruption was like in a dream, you get a muffled experience of it, but you just don't die or suffer any consequences (because it's just your mind processing information).

  • @emptystring4530
    @emptystring4530 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It would have been brilliant if they actually did start a reboot with Galadriel having a dream about this season and commenting on how bizzare the dream was. Now thats a payoff!

  • @mayobandit
    @mayobandit ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very happy to have found your channel through this, love the absolutely insane detail you go into with each one.
    If the writers of this show had half the talent or passion you've displayed we might have actually got a decent show. What a shame.

  • @vyntarus9618
    @vyntarus9618 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great analysis as usual!
    I also watched Fellowship of the Ring extended edition as a brain cleanser. I even decided I'd try to be more critical in my viewing this time than I have in the past, and while there's a few things you can definitely nitpick about it the good so far outweighs the bad that it's very easy to forgive.

  • @Gmex_ONE
    @Gmex_ONE ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It has finally arrived‼️ Been very much looking forward to this video 😃 will let u know what I think after I view it proly this evening 👍

  • @kenthehobo
    @kenthehobo ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a fan of the works of Tolkien and a fan of Kronk, I am grateful for your videos!! Great job sir!

  • @tobybuckle7818
    @tobybuckle7818 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had to suffer through watching all of those episodes but honestly these are the best parts about the whole thing watching your videos is more entertaining than all of the Rings are power

  • @paulderosa3065
    @paulderosa3065 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:18:00 I’ll admit I couldn’t stop chuckling when Largo was giving his speech talking about how “ Our hearts are bigger than our feet!” I kept thinking “Yeah! Unless you slow down slightly!” Then you’re wolf chow!”

  • @arisenomega
    @arisenomega ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have watched ROP and I have no desire to ever re-watch it, but I WILL be spending probably hundreds of hours watching YT videos tearing the show apart, and loving every minute of it!

  • @NocandNC
    @NocandNC ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Fantastic entry yet again. The scene of Gal and Theo reminded me once again of how damn short Gal's actress is and how they did absolutely nothing to hide it. Theo's nearly the same height!! But sure, she's an ancient and awe-inspiring elven warrior, sure.

    • @ChallengeIdeas
      @ChallengeIdeas ปีที่แล้ว

      It almost made sense in Numenor--Galadriel being 6'6" in a place where you have to be nearly 8 feet to be called "tall" (Elendil)--but everywhere else, that's a bit much.

    • @magister343
      @magister343 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ChallengeIdeas Galadriel is only 6'4", but even among the Numenoreans most of the men aren't much taller than 7ft.

    • @ChallengeIdeas
      @ChallengeIdeas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@magister343 I don't know why I thought it was 6'6". Must've confused her with someone else. Shame on me.

    • @jamesmc04
      @jamesmc04 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChallengeIdeas Unfinished Tales say Aragorn is 6 foot 6 inches tall, as compared to Elendil’s 7 foot 11.

  • @aglaia3164
    @aglaia3164 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I haven't watched the Rings of Power at all, and don't intend too. All of the wonderful commentary and breakdowns are far more entertaining than the show ever could be! And you have a lovely smooth voice for commentary btw

  • @TallisKeeton
    @TallisKeeton ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If I was to write a fanfic about Galadriel jumping in the sea - I would explained her survival by assuming that
    - In Valinor Galadriel's mom is Earwen, daughter of Olwe - who is the king of Teleri, who are one of 3 elven tribes - the one whose main patron between Valars is Ulmo, lord of the waters, Tolkien's Poseidon. Ulmo's servant Uinen, one of Maiars - she was the protector of Numenorians on the sea they even called themselves Uinendili - Uinen's friends. So Ulmo took care of Galadriel - granddaughter of Ulmo's fav king :) and send her this raft on his waves. But thats only my fanfic, not 1B dollars blockbuster writing :D

  • @big_red01027
    @big_red01027 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Give me the meat, and give it to me raw", ha ha.
    Elendil should absolutely NOT be shown crying...but one look at that photo of Payne and McKay clarifies why it was done instantly.

  • @michaelroy7754
    @michaelroy7754 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You don't survive a pyroclastic flow period. The writers need to look at the pompey bodies. Theres a limit to suspension of disbelief!
    There's a reason I accept Gollum sinking into molten rock because the real death by lava would be TERRIFYING

  • @mistybehaviours
    @mistybehaviours ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The things that I am sure about in TROP is that nothing makes sense and the sea is always right

  • @0megal2
    @0megal2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    thank you, I much rather use 1 hour of my life watching your analysis than the actual episode. Keep up the good content!

  • @NarcissistAU
    @NarcissistAU ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:22:09 "... because she was too busy being a fat." I laughed so hard I thought my socks would never dry.

  • @karenlusted298
    @karenlusted298 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've been catching up with your videos and enjoying the show with your commentary and humour! Thank you for all the hard work you've done for our entertainment! Well deserved subscription.

  • @GreatGreebo
    @GreatGreebo ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m rewatching your RoP series this weekend. I needed some cheering up and these have done it! I’m actually looking forward to your reviews of the season 2 episodes now. This show is a joke but nobody can make this train wreck funny the way you do and I’m looking forward to the laughs 🤣 *Thank you Random Film Talk* for doing these videos. We all truly appreciate you taking one for the team🤘

  • @theother1281
    @theother1281 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hurrah! Been enjoying the anticipation of ROPINVG part 7 and now it's here; yippee!
    Your shows are so enjoyable and you keep hitting the mark.
    I have watched the RoP episodes once but I have watched all your reviews at least twice.
    And now the good news that not only do we have part 8 to look forward to, but also a post-match overview of the series. Much appreciated.

  • @skatman3278
    @skatman3278 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Been waiting for this! Can't be easy picking the best 'worst' bits when it's so full of bad bits.

  • @TallisKeeton
    @TallisKeeton ปีที่แล้ว +5

    one of the main problems with those screenwriters is that they seem to belive that some heroes leaving behind other heroes - esp their own family and their own ppl - is something obvious and natural ! but for me thats insane.
    Galadriel not searching for her husband, and even does not think that she should explain why not search for him,
    Elendil not searching for Isildur, even though Isildur could be alive still,
    Galadriel leaving behind her soldiers who were exhousted (on the iceberg I guess),
    hobbits leaving behind their families becouse of any small trouble - like a broken bone.
    And even the elves on the boat who seem not to care to return for Galadriel after she jumped in the ocean,
    Galadriel not caring for wounded and burned ppl when she walks away in the forest.
    What is that ?! How can they even think that they are able to present to audience the heroes of Middle-Earth, the good guys you know, actualy some of the best heroes M-E ever produced - with such behaviours as their constant theme ? How can anyone believe these are good guys and not psychopatic monsters ? It seems that all of those scenes with leaving behing others or not caring to help others have not much of explanaition in the show. Its not ok and it never could be ok. Those writers write about pathological heroes.

  • @justinwebb2214
    @justinwebb2214 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I just found your channel and binged all the ROP episodes. I'm slightly bummed i now have to wait for the two next videos lol. A few things i can conclude: you put for more critical thought into consistency, character development, logic, flow, and general writing prowess into your review videos than the writers of ROP have demonstrated. Also, Emperors New Groove some how works incredibly well as gifs, meme, and short clip inserts for youtube review content; you used them to great affect. I must also conclude that the wildly overlooked movie of Emperors New Groove is a better display of writing and world building than Rings of Power lol

  • @BarrieGledden
    @BarrieGledden ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just wonderful. Thank you so much for the time and effort you clearly put into these uploads. By all accounts I'm sure it will all make sense by the end of the last episode!

  • @CorporateComedy
    @CorporateComedy ปีที่แล้ว +10

    been waiting for this one - one of the best channels. top of the pile breakdown of this show. cant wait to see your review of the finale. looking forward to what happens with those character notes...

  • @noveltea9593
    @noveltea9593 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hearing the amazon writer's attempts at Tolkienian speech makes me sad

  • @Mdhneo007
    @Mdhneo007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never seen RoP, but watched about 45hrs of reviews of it 👍👍

  • @epifaerae5100
    @epifaerae5100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the, to me, most accurate and detailed summary of all of the episodes problems. Then again, the more often you look into a scene, the more flaws you find...
    Thank you for your hard work, and pleasant to listen to voice!

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There aren't many one hour, eight minute, and 36 second videos I watch all the way through, but a review/takedown of Amazon's Lard of the Rings: Rangs o' Power by Random Film Talk is one of them.

    • @whom382
      @whom382 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a 5 hour breakdown of what was wrong with a couple of Doctor Who seasons that is on this level that I've watched.

  • @omaroba1490
    @omaroba1490 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another great breakdown. i alost want to thank Amazon for making Rings of power of bad. i gotten hours and hours and hours of super smart entertaining breakdowns from my new TH-cam favs.

  • @faceitgm
    @faceitgm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been binge watching your reviews. Eagerly anticipating the remaining reviews for rings of power and will check out your other content. I've been watching a lot of rings of power reviews and yours are by far the most satisfying and funny I've come across thus far. Keep up the amazing work.

  • @tyranomu
    @tyranomu ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now I've definately watched twice as many hours of content reviwing ROP than ROP's runtime. Half of that was your content!
    Thank uou for voicing much of what I think about this crappy show and pointing out a lot else I didn't notice. Looking forward to the next video.
    Also, I've no Idea what the season 2 will even be about.

  • @roushannah
    @roushannah ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Perverse catharsis is the most fitting description. However, this all goes far beyond the guilty pleasure, because I have learnt many things about story-telling thanks to your videos.

  • @Yattayatta
    @Yattayatta ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing content, just found you randomly on my recommended and this is top tier stuff

  • @johnconcerto8721
    @johnconcerto8721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve listened to all of these videos about five times now, as I put them on when I go to sleep, they all play through, and I try to figure out where I was the next day, and also listen to them during the day, while also listening to snippets when I wake up in the night during sleep cycles. I’m all over the place. The good thing is, I just love listening to the sheer forensic analysis again and again. Something about it, the rapid onslaught of shocking plot holes, contrivances and general tearing apart this monstrosity for endless hours is so stimulating to the brain. It’s like a brain massage.

  • @kkavehma1
    @kkavehma1 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    While I agree with most or almost all your commentary, I should say I thought Elendil crying was as meaningful and made sense. All the sadness and burden was piling up on him and he was trying to show a strong face but he broke at some stage. It was one of the rare scenes that made sense to me 🤪

    • @lordlossize
      @lordlossize ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i disagree. the placement felt really off.
      it WOULD have made sense if they decided to build on it with urgency. i.e. have elendil coldheartedly say "we move on" to the others, then when isildurs friend says "what about your sons body?" he says "we cant afford to let more die trying to get it", to show that he is trying to keep his own personal attachments separate from his duties to his mens lives.
      hell, put his "fuck galadriel" sentiment in that scene! have his reaction to his sons death be "i hate the elf for getting my boy killed"
      but instead they decide to have him cry during a moment of patriotism for his country. its not like the queen was talking about isildur to bring up the tears. its really feels like a stretch what youre thinking, and it wasnt at all how they portrayed it in the show.

    • @Ellebeeby
      @Ellebeeby ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maybe they just turned the cameras on him whilst he was reading the script

  • @hugomouro6555
    @hugomouro6555 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Still some of the best content related to ROP. Bring on number 8! Cheers.

  • @nouyellowmoon
    @nouyellowmoon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Omg! I’ve been waiting patiently for this ❤ grabbing the popcorn 🍿

  • @raimondv4424
    @raimondv4424 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I became aware of you, RFT, after your guest visit on EFAP. Having seen your Hobbit reconstructions and 6/9 parts of ROP I conclude I like your style, dry sense of humour, and ability to break down content in a coherent, clear, and articulate way. Great job! Keep them coming! I thoroughly enjoy them. Appreciate your hard work! Grtz

  • @dikdik9309
    @dikdik9309 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    man ive watched and rewatched your video series so many times, i almost know it by heart hahaha
    can't wait for the next one!

  • @Chewie2208
    @Chewie2208 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the sneaky meltagun in there. Never has there been a better visual clue as to something getting vaporised.

    • @randomft
      @randomft  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The extra damage when within half range burns my ass.

    • @Chewie2208
      @Chewie2208 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@randomft At least we know that Mount Doom was more than 6 inches away from the village now. Which is consistent with what we saw in the show. It's about the only consistency though.

  • @eocceocc8491
    @eocceocc8491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video. One of the best analysis i have seen so far.

  • @sotiriospeithis6659
    @sotiriospeithis6659 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your sacrifice in providing us this catharsis will not be forgotten.

  • @UkiWoDao
    @UkiWoDao ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thoroughly entertaining. I think this kind of quality and effort will result in the sub count it deserves. :)

  • @rageagainstmyhatchet
    @rageagainstmyhatchet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another long night drive and another RoP analysis...
    Sick!

  • @TurielD
    @TurielD ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for writing and recording all this mate. It does indeed give perverse catharsis

  • @ericsbuds
    @ericsbuds ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i can watch these over and over, and they are always entertaining. thank you :)

  • @Violaphobia
    @Violaphobia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love that in part 7 of a 10?hour series made by a 10 sub Andy is still injecting New clips into the Groove of his critiques, and they're still perfectly chosen 👏

  • @bulbasaurbrutal5137
    @bulbasaurbrutal5137 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:27:55 the very moment the leaf starts sailing downwards, I exclaimed to my friends "they are one hundred percent gonna show a Balrog now, but it won't factor into this season at all and I doubt we'll see him again!" and then that exact thing happened. I knew what they were doing because this is a copy of how The Hobbit part 1 introduced us to the dragon as a cliffhanger, when a little birdie is hitting a snail against the mountain wall and the camera pans inside.

  • @KicktheSky34
    @KicktheSky34 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Incompetently written nonsense." -should be the subtitle for this whole series.

  • @dualwieldroxas358
    @dualwieldroxas358 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something even worse about the Celeborn and Galadriel situation is the writers lifted the story from Beren and Luthien, the love story Tolkien made dedicated to the love he had for his wife, whom he saw as an almost sylph-like and otherworldy beauty full of elven grace. It was one of his most precious works, and meant so much that he had his wife's tombstone have Luthien engraved upon it.
    They basically stole the most personal and precious story of Tolkien's and shoved it in thier OC's backstory...

  • @Hepheat75
    @Hepheat75 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can't wait for him to cover season 2 when it releases.

  • @aintskurred918
    @aintskurred918 ปีที่แล้ว

    RFT is becoming one of my favorite channels. Great commentary, keep up the good work!

  • @zeraphking1407
    @zeraphking1407 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is seriously some of the best content on TH-cam.

  • @christianverch1077
    @christianverch1077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AMAZING analysis! Great work!

  • @Palindrome3945
    @Palindrome3945 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The "I've no fucking idea" reaction gets me everytime.

  • @realMoMoPuFF
    @realMoMoPuFF ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love your list so much, very funny but useful.

  • @karlklein2263
    @karlklein2263 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad the algorithm showed me your channel. It's nice to know I'm not the only sane person watching this junk.

  • @Ausynja
    @Ausynja ปีที่แล้ว +2

    According to Galadriel, killing Orcs darkens the heart. And not sooo much long ago she wanted to commit genocide and kill ALL the Orcs.
    This character is sooooo frustrating! 😡

  • @hothotheat3000
    @hothotheat3000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Durin actor is indeed very good. The tears in his eyes when he says Namarie, very powerful.