Good tutorial. I especially like the fact that you repeat certain processes (like press and hold the enter button to make all the slots perform the same function) rather than assume that we remembered the first time. A repeated reminder never goes amiss.
Does a great job of explaining total time for longer processes and explaining how to treat batteries with different capacities than those on the list. MAHA, still the best! Thank you!!
Another excellent tutorial. I'm ordering this one to augment my MH-C980. I do read the manual but these videos clarify many questions, and repetition build confidence. Thank you!
The description of the steps the charger performs for "Break-in" and "Refresh and Analyze" were identical. I don't understand what the difference is. For both she said: 9:50 1) charge 2) rest for one hour 3) discharge 4) rest for one hour 5) charge until fully charged 14:22 1) charge 2) rest for one hour 3) discharge 4) rest for one hour 5) charge until fully charged
The steps are the same, however, the Break-in mode is a very specific set of charge and discharge settings whereas the Refresh & Analyze mode is adjustable by the user.
I prefer the old model. Used it for 10years without a glitch. This one is overcharging the same batteries, pumping more mAh in them than their rated capacity.
I have this charger now more than one year and really like it. Good bunch of features, very good selection of charger/discharge currents and reliable. The only thing that is annoying is the awful display. Very bad readable even at a small angle, only one value, long waiting time to see the next value. I hope Maha will bring us a new charger with similar features and a much better display. I think Skyrcs NC2200 could be the best example, it cycles all values, is very good readable and shows values for all slots at one time.
@@reifenabhobeler4331 Is it the display content you do not like or is it the display content you cannot see? If there are display problems, please contact our tech support team to assist you at tech@mahaenergy.com.
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy The displays works but it´s 1. hard to read, if you look from an angle you see all digits on and 2. only one value for one cell at one time. Like Scourr wrote take a look at Skyrc NC2200. It´s very good readable in almost every angle, shows one value for every cell and cycling these values. It also have a status LED, I can see from the distance if a task is done. The C9000 Pro only shows ONE value for ONE cell in same time and have no LED.
Thank you for the video, seems a good product, but I send two inconvenients for your comments: 1) This PRO maintains the same final tricke charge than WizardOne model, what is neither necessary nor convenient for LSD (Low Self-Discharge) batteries according to Manufacturers like Panasonic in Eneloop Batteries range. Strange for me no customers' feedback were received about this, to implement a disable option. Keep in mind that when a long (charge) or very long (break-in) process will finish, I, like most people, won't be able (working, walking...) to access the charger to remove the batteries until many hours after, and all these extra hours will damage the batteries. 2) This PRO 'Discharge Termination' is 0,9 V., and indicates that the Break-in mode follows the IEC standard for determining battery capacity, but according to IEC 61951-2 cell shall be discharged down to a final voltage of 1,0 V, as was in WizardOne model (obviously discharged to 0,9 V capacity results higher tan IEC). So this PRO really does not follow IEC, unless by means of a break-in mode program with different final of 1.0 V in discharge, what is not mentioned. Regards
Do you mean the Top Off charge or really trickle? The non-Pro C9000 was a Top Off charger with 0ΔV-termination, which charges 2 hours(!) after it shows "full" with a low current and then it trickles. The Pro seems to have -ΔV termination, no info about Trickle
Thank you for the tutorial. Would you please add a video that would explain when a cell or cells test defective and what are the indications displayed. Do you have C and D cell adapters for this charger? What is the difference between the Pro version and the Wizardone version?
Thank you for the suggestion, we will work on that :) As for the C and D cell adapters, we don't carry those. The Pro version is the latest charger and replaced the older model WizardOne. The Pro version has 4 Charging Modes instead of 5 (no more cycle mode), It has a Backlit LCD Display with an On/Off option, It has Memory Settings, it has an Easy Setup Function, and it is more compact in size. We have a comparison table on our website's support page: powerex.helpdocs.com/charger-faqs/mh-c9000-vs-mh-c9000pro-charger-comparison-table
Questions: I have built up a collection of many rechargeable batteries with newer batteries having higher capacity than others resulting in several different capacities and no way of knowing which are which. Can I use the table to select the the rate for the lowest known capacity (ex: 1700mAh) and use that for higher capacity batteries (2100mAh) and it would just take longer with a lower rate? Or would it not properly complete a conditioning/refresh mode? Thank you!
I had a strange behavior with my C9000: At discharging it reduces all cells to 0mA discharge current but seems to be active. I waited for more than 30 Mins but no change of values, current still 0mA. Not sure whether discharging really stopps or the display/software have problems
I have some Sanyo eneloop that was bought 2013 10 years old and was never used. I did charge 2 years ago to maintain full capacity. Since this is considered a low discharge battery, do I need to discharge and break in since it is 10 years old, was never used and only maintained once 2 years ago or just break in?
I like this charger/analyzer so far. Nice device! ... does it actually tell me if a battery i've set it to refresh/analyze is bad? or do i have to base my opinion on the matter on the end state?
Great to hear you like the charger! You have to base it on the capacity it gives you at the end. Typically, we consider 70% of the rated capacity as poor health.
Interesting charger. I like that it have discharge-mode to 1A, so I wonder why the manual says I should use max. 0,6A discharge. And I think the display could be much more detailed. Only one cell, only one parameter (instead of one parameter for all slots or all parameters for one slot) is very bad for such a big display, it´s the worst I ever seen. You need to wait very long to see the stae of all 4 Slots Skyrcs similar charger, the NC2200 shows parameter for all slots and also changes after some seconds between the parameters. I hope the Pro will be updated or a new charger will be made by Powerex.
I have 1 battery AA 2300mAh and never stop charging (in refresh & analyzer mode 1100mA charging & 500mA discharging). Is very hot and charging up to 2hours at 1100mA and i remove it. Its second time to do that. Maybe the battery is fault? Should it automatically stop charging at such a high battery temperature? Charging stops when I charge it with another charger.
I have batteries that are 850 mAh. What battery capacity level should I set for break in mode since there are only whole number 100s to choose from. I imagine it will be either 800 or 900?
A question about the max. capacity. MH-C9000 Pro = 4000mAh, MH-C9000 = 20000mAh. Means it, with an AA to C/D-adapter it´s not possible to charge/test C/D-cells with more than 4000mAh?
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy Not the best decision. The C9000 Pro is my favorite capacity tester, I also used it with an C/D-adapter, but it´s useless for cells over 3970mAh.
Old version was also 2000 mah max. Only difference I think, last operation memory. After more than ten years use, there is no doubt that this is best charger ever for AA and AAA.
Hello, I bought exact charger and 2 packs of a 2700 pro followed your exact steps and batteries get very hot with a charge time of 120 minutes are these fake or bad or used ? Purchased in Hong Kong. Have a receipt.
I’m blown away by the batteries life and charger. I fully charged and used already 2 times (6hours per time) and still full battery???!!! The first time I used it was Chinese new year was weeks ago and today still full already used for 5 hours! What the heck voodoo magic is this ? Eneloop at full charge and new will drain 6 hours a few bars. I’m using as a mic and receiver AA. Loving these off to get more powerex batteries. You sell any square batteries ?
@@avia4281 So great to hear! As the the square batteries, are you talking about the 9V batteries? You can find all the batteries we carry on our website, mahaenergy.com/batteries/.
I would refresh and analyze first. This may repair the battery and it will give you the battery capacity rating. If the capacity is still low, you can do a break-in. This is basically the same cycle as refresh & analyze (charge, rest, discharge, rest, charge) but the charge and discharge rates are a lot lower. I didn't realise until watching this video that you are supposed to discharge before doing break-in, so if you decide to break-in you should discharge first.
After receiving customers' feedback, the Cycle Mode was not used often. We kept the most used and helpful modes, Charge, Break-In, Discharge, and Refresh & Analyze Modes.
Parfois certains utilisateurs ont une utilisation spécifique de la recharge. Se priver de cette fonction ne vous fait que perdre une clientèle potentielle supplémentaire ingénieusement éduquée.
A high charge current will damage all batteries of any capacity. Charge batteries only with a current of 0.1c(1000mAh=100 ma charge current)if you want them to serve you for many years.
Hi, if i have AA batteries with 900 mah, for the recomended charge and diacharge rate, should i follow the AAA battery chart? Or use the minimum value of the AA chart?
You can find the charge rate and discharge rate on the table of the first page of the manual (it's for Powerex and non Powerex). You can see the example in the video by jumping to the time 03:49. We also have the table on our website, powerex.helpdocs.com/charger-faqs/faq-mh-c9000pro-charger. Please feel free to contact our tech support team at tech@mahaenergy.com if you need additional assistance.
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy, What are the improvements and how is the use easier? Do you have a comparison between the new and the old (which I have)? Any statistical functions? Sending charging info to a PC? To keep track of lifecycle of a battery?
@@tokelahti you can find the comparison table between the two models on our website, powerex.helpdocs.com/charger-faqs/mh-c9000-vs-mh-c9000pro-charger-comparison-table.
You can purchase it directly with our authorized distributor in Indonesia, www.bateraipowerex.com/. You can also purchase it on Ebay with our authorized distributor, www.ebay.com/sch/rdana/m.html?_armrs=1.
You can purchase our product with our authorized distributor in Malaysia, shashinki.com/shop/maha-powerex-m-13.html?osCsid=c298e5d0a171879523b62ec47afa33be.
You can purchase it directly with our authorized distributor in Indonesia, www.bateraipowerex.com/. You can also purchase it on Ebay with our authorized distributor, www.ebay.com/sch/rdana/m.html?_armrs=1.
@@redribbonhobby1454 Same thing here. I've looked at some things on Amazon and the shipping to Thailand is very expensive. Good luck getting one! I've been very pleased with mine so far.
Good tutorial. I especially like the fact that you repeat certain processes (like press and hold the enter button to make all the slots perform the same function) rather than assume that we remembered the first time. A repeated reminder never goes amiss.
Does a great job of explaining total time for longer processes and explaining how to treat batteries with different capacities than those on the list. MAHA, still the best!
Thank you!!
Another excellent tutorial. I'm ordering this one to augment my MH-C980. I do read the manual but these videos clarify many questions, and repetition build confidence. Thank you!
Great to hear! And thank you, glad you are enjoying the tutorials and it's helping answer questions you had.
A good upgrade from my 10 year old Maha C 9000 which is still going strong
Thanks! and great to hear the older c9000 is still going strong!
any difference from the old Maha C 9000?
I just purchased this through your website! Seems like the best charger out there still!!
The description of the steps the charger performs for "Break-in" and "Refresh and Analyze" were identical. I don't understand what the difference is. For both she said:
9:50 1) charge 2) rest for one hour 3) discharge 4) rest for one hour 5) charge until fully charged
14:22 1) charge 2) rest for one hour 3) discharge 4) rest for one hour 5) charge until fully charged
The steps are the same, however, the Break-in mode is a very specific set of charge and discharge settings whereas the Refresh & Analyze mode is adjustable by the user.
Now charging the first batteries using my new Powerex MH-C9000PRO, received today :-)
I prefer the old model. Used it for 10years without a glitch.
This one is overcharging the same batteries, pumping more mAh in them than their rated capacity.
Sorry to hear about your experience. Please contact our tech support team at tech@mahaenergy.com so they can assist you.
wow. take my money!
thanks very good explained tutoriai!
I have this charger now more than one year and really like it. Good bunch of features, very good selection of charger/discharge currents and reliable. The only thing that is annoying is the awful display. Very bad readable even at a small angle, only one value, long waiting time to see the next value.
I hope Maha will bring us a new charger with similar features and a much better display. I think Skyrcs NC2200 could be the best example, it cycles all values, is very good readable and shows values for all slots at one time.
Great to hear you like the charger. Thank you for your feedback, I will pass it along to the engineering team.
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy Hope so, the display is also for me the worst thing on this charger (and meanwhile I have 4 of them)
@@reifenabhobeler4331 Is it the display content you do not like or is it the display content you cannot see? If there are display problems, please contact our tech support team to assist you at tech@mahaenergy.com.
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy The displays works but it´s 1. hard to read, if you look from an angle you see all digits on and 2. only one value for one cell at one time. Like Scourr wrote take a look at Skyrc NC2200. It´s very good readable in almost every angle, shows one value for every cell and cycling these values. It also have a status LED, I can see from the distance if a task is done.
The C9000 Pro only shows ONE value for ONE cell in same time and have no LED.
@@reifenabhobeler4331 Got it. Thank you for your feedback as well. I will also pass it along to the engineering team.
good product, i just bought the bundle with 4xAA (2700mAh).
Great tutorial. Thx a lot
Excellent video tutorial. Very well explained.
Thank you for the video, seems a good product, but I send two inconvenients for your comments:
1) This PRO maintains the same final tricke charge than WizardOne model, what is neither necessary nor convenient for LSD (Low Self-Discharge) batteries according to Manufacturers like Panasonic in Eneloop Batteries range. Strange for me no customers' feedback were received about this, to implement a disable option. Keep in mind that when a long (charge) or very long (break-in) process will finish, I, like most people, won't be able (working, walking...) to access the charger to remove the batteries until many hours after, and all these extra hours will damage the batteries.
2) This PRO 'Discharge Termination' is 0,9 V., and indicates that the Break-in mode follows the IEC standard for determining battery capacity, but according to IEC 61951-2 cell shall be discharged down to a final voltage of 1,0 V, as was in WizardOne model (obviously discharged to 0,9 V capacity results higher tan IEC). So this PRO really does not follow IEC, unless by means of a break-in mode program with different final of 1.0 V in discharge, what is not mentioned.
Regards
I will pass this information to the engineering team.
Do you mean the Top Off charge or really trickle? The non-Pro C9000 was a Top Off charger with 0ΔV-termination, which charges 2 hours(!) after it shows "full" with a low current and then it trickles. The Pro seems to have -ΔV termination, no info about Trickle
Perfektna nabijacka a dobry navod na obsluhu prilozeny .Vadi mi ze ked chcen zmenit MODE musim baterku vybrat a znovu vlozit do nabijacky.
Glad you like the charger! Yes, you have to remove the battery in order to change it to another mode.
Thank you for the tutorial. Would you please add a video that would explain when a cell or cells test defective and what are the indications displayed. Do you have C and D cell adapters for this charger? What is the difference between the Pro version and the Wizardone version?
Thank you for the suggestion, we will work on that :) As for the C and D cell adapters, we don't carry those. The Pro version is the latest charger and replaced the older model WizardOne. The Pro version has 4 Charging Modes instead of 5 (no more cycle mode), It has a Backlit LCD Display with an On/Off option, It has Memory Settings, it has an Easy Setup Function, and it is more compact in size. We have a comparison table on our website's support page: powerex.helpdocs.com/charger-faqs/mh-c9000-vs-mh-c9000pro-charger-comparison-table
Questions: I have built up a collection of many rechargeable batteries with newer batteries having higher capacity than others resulting in several different capacities and no way of knowing which are which.
Can I use the table to select the the rate for the lowest known capacity (ex: 1700mAh) and use that for higher capacity batteries (2100mAh) and it would just take longer with a lower rate? Or would it not properly complete a conditioning/refresh mode? Thank you!
What is the trickle charge at the end of the CHARGE setting, an also at the end of the BREAK IN setting?
The maintenance charge is 10mAh
I had a strange behavior with my C9000: At discharging it reduces all cells to 0mA discharge current but seems to be active. I waited for more than 30 Mins but no change of values, current still 0mA. Not sure whether discharging really stopps or the display/software have problems
Please contact our tech support team at tech@mahaenergy.com. They will be able to assist you.
I have some Sanyo eneloop that was bought 2013 10 years old and was never used. I did charge 2 years ago to maintain full capacity. Since this is considered a low discharge battery, do I need to discharge and break in since it is 10 years old, was never used and only maintained once 2 years ago or just break in?
We would suggest Discharging them first and then doing the Break-In mode.
Thanks
I like this charger/analyzer so far. Nice device! ... does it actually tell me if a battery i've set it to refresh/analyze is bad? or do i have to base my opinion on the matter on the end state?
Great to hear you like the charger! You have to base it on the capacity it gives you at the end. Typically, we consider 70% of the rated capacity as poor health.
Interesting charger. I like that it have discharge-mode to 1A, so I wonder why the manual says I should use
max. 0,6A discharge. And I think the display could be much more detailed.
Only one cell, only one parameter (instead of one parameter for all slots or all parameters for one slot) is very bad for such a big display, it´s the worst I ever seen. You need to wait very long to see the stae of all 4 Slots
Skyrcs similar charger, the NC2200 shows parameter for all slots and also changes after some seconds between
the parameters.
I hope the Pro will be updated or a new charger will be made by Powerex.
for the Discharge mode, the max is 1A. Thank you for your feedback. I will pass along your feedback to the engineering team.
I have 1 battery AA 2300mAh and never stop charging (in refresh & analyzer mode 1100mA charging & 500mA discharging). Is very hot and charging up to 2hours at 1100mA and i remove it. Its second time to do that. Maybe the battery is fault? Should it automatically stop charging at such a high battery temperature?
Charging stops when I charge it with another charger.
Please contact our tech support team at tech@mahaenergy.com. They will be able to assist you.
I have batteries that are 850 mAh. What battery capacity level should I set for break in mode since there are only whole number 100s to choose from. I imagine it will be either 800 or 900?
For the Break-In Mode, we always round down when it's not a whole number. So in your case, you should set it at 800.
A question about the max. capacity. MH-C9000 Pro = 4000mAh, MH-C9000 = 20000mAh. Means it, with an AA to C/D-adapter it´s not possible to charge/test C/D-cells with more than 4000mAh?
Yes
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy Not the best decision. The C9000 Pro is my favorite capacity tester, I also used it with an C/D-adapter, but it´s useless for cells over 3970mAh.
The other/non-pro version of this does capacities upto 20,000mAh is this one the same?
Also, can I use C/D adapter with this?
Old version was also 2000 mah max. Only difference I think, last operation memory.
After more than ten years use, there is no doubt that this is best charger ever for AA and AAA.
Hello, I bought exact charger and 2 packs of a 2700 pro followed your exact steps and batteries get very hot with a charge time of 120 minutes are these fake or bad or used ? Purchased in Hong Kong. Have a receipt.
Hello. Please contact our tech support team at tech@mahaenergy.com and they will be able to assist you.
I’m blown away by the batteries life and charger. I fully charged and used already 2 times (6hours per time) and still full battery???!!! The first time I used it was Chinese new year was weeks ago and today still full already used for 5 hours! What the heck voodoo magic is this ? Eneloop at full charge and new will drain 6 hours a few bars. I’m using as a mic and receiver AA. Loving these off to get more powerex batteries. You sell any square batteries ?
@@avia4281 So great to hear! As the the square batteries, are you talking about the 9V batteries? You can find all the batteries we carry on our website, mahaenergy.com/batteries/.
I have old rechargeable batteries that don't perform well, do I need to discharge and break in or do I also have to refresh and analyze?
I would refresh and analyze first. This may repair the battery and it will give you the battery capacity rating. If the capacity is still low, you can do a break-in. This is basically the same cycle as refresh & analyze (charge, rest, discharge, rest, charge) but the charge and discharge rates are a lot lower. I didn't realise until watching this video that you are supposed to discharge before doing break-in, so if you decide to break-in you should discharge first.
@@PhilUKNet This is what we recommend as well.
Why pro removed cycle function...mean degraded from old one?
After receiving customers' feedback, the Cycle Mode was not used often. We kept the most used and helpful modes, Charge, Break-In, Discharge, and Refresh & Analyze Modes.
Parfois certains utilisateurs ont une utilisation spécifique de la recharge. Se priver de cette fonction ne vous fait que perdre une clientèle potentielle supplémentaire ingénieusement éduquée.
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy Cycle mode was good - but this is not an improvement?
@@jon123423 you can achieve the similar cycle function by running Refresh and Analyze several times ;)
@@Science-sans-conscience you can achieve the similar cycle function by running Refresh and Analyze several times ;)
Hello! Just a quick qeustion - the old c9000 had thermal sensors for each slot, why doesn't the Pro version have that?
Hi Ivan, they are individually integrated into the charging contacts.
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy Thank you for the info! I'm ordering 🙂
A high charge current will damage all batteries of any capacity. Charge batteries only with a current of 0.1c(1000mAh=100 ma charge current)if you want them to serve you for many years.
Hi, if i have AA batteries with 900 mah, for the recomended charge and diacharge rate, should i follow the AAA battery chart? Or use the minimum value of the AA chart?
It's ok to use the AAA battery charge/discharge rate for your AA batteries 900mAh capacity. Charge Rate 400mA; Discharge Rate 200mA.
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy understood, tq
@@vitalyboyko104 For the 900 AAA - Min: 300, Optimal: 400, Max: 900; For the 2450 AA - Min: 800, Optimal: 1200, Max: 2000.
How can I find out the charge and recharge rate of my batteries (non Powerex)?
You can find the charge rate and discharge rate on the table of the first page of the manual (it's for Powerex and non Powerex). You can see the example in the video by jumping to the time 03:49. We also have the table on our website, powerex.helpdocs.com/charger-faqs/faq-mh-c9000pro-charger. Please feel free to contact our tech support team at tech@mahaenergy.com if you need additional assistance.
I have to remove each battery at the end of each cycle to change the mode. Is this normal? It is annoying, and I may return it for this reason.
Yes, it is normal.
「とても良くて面白いビデオは素晴らしいエンターテインメントの感覚をもたらします！」、
Is this functionally a clone of a decade old MH-C9000?
It is an improved version of the old MH-C9000 with easier to use functions.
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy, What are the improvements and how is the use easier? Do you have a comparison between the new and the old (which I have)?
Any statistical functions? Sending charging info to a PC? To keep track of lifecycle of a battery?
@@tokelahti you can find the comparison table between the two models on our website, powerex.helpdocs.com/charger-faqs/mh-c9000-vs-mh-c9000pro-charger-comparison-table.
Can i do cycle in this version?
Cycle mode isn't available PRO version, however, you can achieve similar function by running Refresh and Analyze several times.
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy thanks for the reply, I'll try it🎉
where cycle menu? like c9000 version?
The MH-C9000Pro does not have a Cycle Mode.
Where to buy in Indonesia?
You can purchase it directly with our authorized distributor in Indonesia, www.bateraipowerex.com/. You can also purchase it on Ebay with our authorized distributor, www.ebay.com/sch/rdana/m.html?_armrs=1.
Is the POWEREX MH-C9000 suitable for LI-ON 1.5v batteries ?
As you can read at specs , is suitable just for NiCD & NiMH
No, it is only suitable for NiMH and NiCD rechargeable batteries.
Many thx for your help!
There is no 1.5V Li-ion batteries.
@@tokelahti Yes there are. For over a year now I have had several AmpTorrent brand lithium-ion 1.5v 3000mWh AA & 1100mWa AAA batteries.
Hi, where i can get it in Malaysia? Thanks
You can purchase our product with our authorized distributor in Malaysia, shashinki.com/shop/maha-powerex-m-13.html?osCsid=c298e5d0a171879523b62ec47afa33be.
Where i can buy in Jakarta, indonesia?
You can purchase it directly with our authorized distributor in Indonesia, www.bateraipowerex.com/. You can also purchase it on Ebay with our authorized distributor, www.ebay.com/sch/rdana/m.html?_armrs=1.
In Thailand I bought mine on-line at Lazada. Do you have Lazada in Indonesia?
@@PhilUKNet yes we have.. but they dont sell powerex.. only by ebay or amazon.. but the shipping very expensive.. same the price of powerex.. 🤭
The shipping is Half price of powerex
@@redribbonhobby1454 Same thing here. I've looked at some things on Amazon and the shipping to Thailand is very expensive. Good luck getting one! I've been very pleased with mine so far.
i wouldn’t put my money with this company
we bought multiple of them and charger gave up charging and batteries gone dead
shame shame
Sorry to hear about your experience. Please contact our tech support team at tech@mahaenergy.com so they can help you resolve your issue.
@@PowerexbyMahaEnergy i did
serveral time and but was turn away
they do not stand behind their defective designs