Finally: a social, psychological and linguistic study of the deaf, by the deaf. I’m tired of educational and medical institutions assuming responsibility and authority over DHH people, who claim to act in their best interests while not giving them a say on the subject that concern them the most. How can researchers claim that they act in the best interest of their subjects, when they are complicit in the audist dynamics that oppress them in the first place?
I do not understand how parents have a Deaf child, refuse to learn ASL and refuse to let their children learn ASL. To me, that is neglectful. The parents should learn ASL and let their children learn so that they have another form of communication other than oral because signing is natural for Deaf children. I have deafness in both my ears due to severe ear infections as a toddler and through my childhood. I am 70% deaf in my right ear and 80% in my left but the deafness progressed slowly and I apparently adapted to the deafness as I grew up. I did start learning ASL when I was 13 and I am now 43. I need closed captioning on my TV and my hearing aides help me when I am talking with people in groups. Being Deaf, in my opinion is simply a different way of living in the world and there is nothing wrong with being deaf. Sometimes, I even envy the profoundly Deaf because they don't have to listen to all the nonsense that is spewed by the hearing group.
Agrees with basically all you said, one thing though that seems to be going on that bothers me abit is this denial that being deaf is a..., lets use the word "flaw". Its also common among other groups of people with some sort of illness or handicap. Infact I myself have been yelled at because I didnt agree with someone that tried to convince me that the illness I have(Im not deaf, my illness is quite diffrent and besides the point) is nothing negative, it just makes me slightly diffrent etc. But it IS something negative, part of me is not working properly. It may have no negative effect at all on the possibilities and quality of my life, but that is besides the point. Same goes with being deaf, I would never dream of saying something like "being deaf means your hearing is simply diffrent, theres nothing wrong with it and dont let anyone tell you diffrently!" to a friend, but thats basically what going on. Again I want to repeat that all im saying is that being deaf is having a flaw in the hearing, Im saying nothing at all about how to live your life as a deaf person, or what values to have. Im just pointing the finger at a small detai in a objective way, a detail that seems to get twisted around these days. Be positivt towards life, but be it without lying to yourself and others
Whether Deafness is a flaw or not depends upon the Deaf person and how they view their deafness. Please do not try to decide for us if you are not deaf. It is an extremely personal decision. There are some people who pursue hearing aids or Cochlear Implants and do not pursue their Deaf culture and community at all. Others? They commit to Sign Language and thrive in their Deaf community. Then there's people who have hearing aids, Cochlear Implants, are oral and can sign, so they choose both. You cannot decide for us whether our Deafness is a flaw. We have a world of our own. We have a language of our own. We have jobs, careers, art, poetry, movies, and talent of our own. The only "flaw" is the hearing world that doesn't listen.
How Deaf people view their inability to hear unfortunately can be based on how hearing people acted toward them early in life. Also How old were they when they became dead can also have an affect on them. Friends of mine that were deaf all their lives do not see themselves like hearing people do. Especially those with deaf relatives, parents and siblings, compared to a child who has hearing parents and siblings. My parents and sister are hearing but I am very hard of hearing due to severe ear infections as a toddler. I can speak, use the phone and such but I wear hearing aides because I am 70% deaf in left ear and 80% in my right so conversations are really hard for me to follow. I learned ASL and can lip read a tiny bit but it is not easy.. Hearing people rely so much on their hearing that they don't realize that we just adapt well to using our other senses to balance things out.. Considering how much BS is talked by people, in conversations, I think being deaf can have it's benefits.
***** What your talking about is your attitude towards the dissability, and the relationship between you as a person and the hearing issues. What Im talking about is simply the relationship between the dissability and the hearing. Im not telling you or anyone to be this or that, i pointed that out specifically! All im saying is that being deaf means your hearing is flawed. then you can go on living you life with that information and make something positive out of it if your lucky. But at the base, its a flaw, and ppl seems ok with denying that too, pretending it doesnt exists. And thats the best way to approach it, That doesnt seem very heathy to me, Im sure you can honest about it and still live a very good life.
It would be exciting to visit that Laboratory. I am very happy to see all the progress done for Deaf studies and the jobs for Deaf Scholars. I am for ASL in the deaf schools and I wish that public schools would offer ASL as a Foreign Language option besides Spanish and French that is offered.
Really great testing and definitely builds on Martin Seligman's work on Resiliance. As a late deafened person, I can really see that having a bigger toolbox of skills makes a huge difference in adaptation. My toolbox is rather small. I have taken two ASL classes, but sign on maybe a 1st grader's level of skill. That prevents me from acculturation with the Deaf. I am now acculturated to a hearing world, but am lacking in language skills necessary to living a more full, understanding life. And, yes, I relate very much with the idea of Resiliance. As a deaf adult with low communication skills, My Resiliance has dropped tremendously. It has also led me to withdraw from both Deaf and Hearing, because I don't quite fit in to either category. I end up isolating myself. I am having a good life, but it is not a life that allows me to be as involved as I should be in either situation. I understand it cognitively. I do seek out technology to help. I do involve myself more with Deaf culture. I don't ever think I will be able to be very proficient at being accepted much with the Deaf community, until I get more proficient with signing. Good job evaluating your hypothesis. I am curious if you had participation from enough subjects to have normative scoring? (1,000 or more subjects). I see in my own life the truth of your work. Now I encourage you and your colleagues to develop methods to "inoculate" deaf/Deaf to be more successful, and more resiliant.
I Totally agree with you. It’s very nice to meet you❤️🤟 I can speak ASL gloss because it is another language to English. I use Resilience as a deaf woman I can really see the Backchambling that is important to use it in schools me and my family uses sign language I have a huge family to be honest it is very entertaining for me a little emotional it makes me very happy and blessed right before I was born in Dec 3rd 2004 my doctor told my parents that I was not going to make it and to see them and I almost died but I didn’t. I recovered from Autism and Down syndrome I’m going to college next year after I graduate I’m a senior now in my high school I also use sign language for my class to help me know more about the deaf culture and language in ASL gloss thanks for reading This god bless
Question for research: why is it that some deaf children in non-signing hearing families grow up to have strong protective factors while others with the same intelligence and background do not? Especially if both have the same educational pedigree and lack of ASL until adulthood. That would be a good topic for a Ph.D. dissertation!
Hearing loss is a disability, but Deafness isn't *just* hearing loss. (And that doesn't take into account the people who are born deaf and never had any hearing to lose. How can you call it a disability, if they have never known life any other way?) There is so much more depth and richness to the culture than just "can't hear" or "can't hear well." I'm hearing, and I'm not even going to pretend I understand all of that depth and richness, so I'm not even going to try. All I can say is that when most, if not all, hearing people think about deafness, they think about it in terms of them having hearing all of their life, and then suddenly losing it. They cannot imagine a world that never had sound, or never had usable sound. They can only imagine sudden loss. As a hearing person, if I were to suddenly lose my hearing, that would be a HUGE change to my life. I would consider myself disabled. I would try to get hearing aids or possibly cochlear implants, even though I do know some sign language, because my brain is "hearing." I'm 42. Transitioning to "not hearing" would be very difficult. I might be able to understand hearing parents not teaching their kids ASL because ASL has a structure that is difficult for many hearing people to grasp. Not impossible, of course, but difficult for many. But ASL is not the only signed language in America. PSE uses the ASL signs, but with the more linear English word order. For many hearing parents, I think this would be a good alternative. Systems like Signing Exact English would not be great as a conversational language, but might be good for teaching certain English language skills. There are so many options, and it is baffling to me that any parent would deny their child a usable language. My oldest son is autistic and was non-verbal until he was nearly 3 years old. He was regressive, which means he developed normally to a point and then seemed to lose that progress. A couple months after that happened, and it was clear that it wasn't coming back any time soon, we used sign language with him. He never developed solid skills, but he could say a few things like "more" and "please." He called an elderly neighbor of ours "grandpa." It was clear that the language was in there, but verbal expression was locked off. At one point, my husband's father told him that he needed to "stop doing this" (while making nonsensical hand movements) "and start talking." I told him that he had a language he could use that I could understand, and how dare he tell him to stop. Around age 3, his verbal skills started to kick in and he eventually dropped the signs. He's 14 now and doesn't even remember that he'd ever used them, but I often wonder how long it would have taken him to become verbal without the ability to express himself with sign language. What an amazing thing and what a valuable resource! If there were never deaf people in the world, there would never be sign language, and I would have had a chunk of time--time which is important for language acquisition in young children--that might have been lost. I can't even imagine that. Give children language!!
purpleiguana Well I started out having hearing. I then went deaf in one ear overnight at age 17. I've then been slowly losing my hearing in the other ear over time. Now I'm closer to being deaf than I am hearing. I consider myself deaf but started out of the hearing world. Deafness is so complex.
To me, deafness itself it NOT a disability... it's the hearing oppressive society that ignores a simple adaption of learning sign language and respecting Deaf Culture. I see it as hearing society are disabled in refusing or too scared or too lazy to make the time to learn ASL (or sign language) to communicate with Deaf folks. If people can gesture, people can certainly learn to sign. I have met many disabled Deaf people with no arms, half fingers, cerebral palsy, floppy fingers and they ALL still signed wonderfully. Once I saw their resilience and STILL sign despite their physical limitations and still be able to communicate in sign language (remember ASL uses the whole body)--- that has taught me there is NO excuse whatsoever for hearing people to pick up their able hands to sign. I once met a hearing man who refused to sign with his profoundly Deaf daughter -- he complained why I refuse to voice as it was "beautiful"... I replied back, "You have beautiful hands, why don't you use them?" He was flabbergasted. There are animals who are naturally deaf... I don't see them having to get cochlear implants, they adapt to their environment. My pets in the past have recognized my deafness and cleverly adapted so that they could communicate with me in a way that I understood them clearly. Talk about embracing changes naturally. Most hearing people are not resilient it seems for the most part once they know there is invasive technology for artificial hearing, they seize it in fear. It's not the deafness that they're afraid of... it's being excluded from their hearing family and friends who won't sign... people who refuse to sign make other deaf people feel isolated, not the deafness itself. I've met many deaf people who fearfully got CIs in hope of that their non-signing hearing families would keep on loving them. How tragic. Helen Keller pointed something tragic of audism: “Blindness separates people from things; deafness separates people from people.” ― Helen Keller... but it's not deafness that separates people from people. It's PEOPLE separating other people in the form of fear based mentality, abuse and neglect to adapt in a way that is doable physically. It's people's resistance to adapt that destroys the bridges of unity. It's embarrassing that Europe often have many people be able to speak 5 languages and America adamantly insist only speaking in verbal English.
a la linguistica es el estudio de las lenguas es decir todo aquello que pertenece o esta relacionado con el lenguaje el medio que usa el individua para comunicarse. La linguistica cuando trata de investigar los señas que usan las personas sordas encuentras una gran variedad de interpretaciones a esto lo llama = ISMO linguisticISMo algunos terminos para comprender: socialISMO, comunISMO, capitalISMO, imperialISMO y el audismo viene por los efectos de la sordera o contra posicion a la sordera AUDISMO cree que el OYENTE es MEJOR. tambien suponiendo creer que el Blanco es mejor que el Negro.o creer que el oyente es mejor que lo del sordo esto es: audISMO es como el oralISMO que no quiere juntarse con las señas para no perder su esencia. breve traduccion del video.
Finally: a social, psychological and linguistic study of the deaf, by the deaf. I’m tired of educational and medical institutions assuming responsibility and authority over DHH people, who claim to act in their best interests while not giving them a say on the subject that concern them the most. How can researchers claim that they act in the best interest of their subjects, when they are complicit in the audist dynamics that oppress them in the first place?
as a former interpreter I am right there with ya.
I do not understand how parents have a Deaf child, refuse to learn ASL and refuse to let their children learn ASL. To me, that is neglectful. The parents should learn ASL and let their children learn so that they have another form of communication other than oral because signing is natural for Deaf children. I have deafness in both my ears due to severe ear infections as a toddler and through my childhood. I am 70% deaf in my right ear and 80% in my left but the deafness progressed slowly and I apparently adapted to the deafness as I grew up. I did start learning ASL when I was 13 and I am now 43. I need closed captioning on my TV and my hearing aides help me when I am talking with people in groups. Being Deaf, in my opinion is simply a different way of living in the world and there is nothing wrong with being deaf. Sometimes, I even envy the profoundly Deaf because they don't have to listen to all the nonsense that is spewed by the hearing group.
Agrees with basically all you said, one thing though that seems to be going on that bothers me abit is this denial that being deaf is a..., lets use the word "flaw". Its also common among other groups of people with some sort of illness or handicap. Infact I myself have been yelled at because I didnt agree with someone that tried to convince me that the illness I have(Im not deaf, my illness is quite diffrent and besides the point) is nothing negative, it just makes me slightly diffrent etc. But it IS something negative, part of me is not working properly. It may have no negative effect at all on the possibilities and quality of my life, but that is besides the point. Same goes with being deaf, I would never dream of saying something like "being deaf means your hearing is simply diffrent, theres nothing wrong with it and dont let anyone tell you diffrently!" to a friend, but thats basically what going on. Again I want to repeat that all im saying is that being deaf is having a flaw in the hearing, Im saying nothing at all about how to live your life as a deaf person, or what values to have. Im just pointing the finger at a small detai in a objective way, a detail that seems to get twisted around these days. Be positivt towards life, but be it without lying to yourself and others
Whether Deafness is a flaw or not depends upon the Deaf person and how they view their deafness. Please do not try to decide for us if you are not deaf. It is an extremely personal decision. There are some people who pursue hearing aids or Cochlear Implants and do not pursue their Deaf culture and community at all. Others? They commit to Sign Language and thrive in their Deaf community. Then there's people who have hearing aids, Cochlear Implants, are oral and can sign, so they choose both. You cannot decide for us whether our Deafness is a flaw. We have a world of our own. We have a language of our own. We have jobs, careers, art, poetry, movies, and talent of our own. The only "flaw" is the hearing world that doesn't listen.
How Deaf people view their inability to hear unfortunately can be based on how hearing people acted toward them early in life. Also How old were they when they became dead can also have an affect on them. Friends of mine that were deaf all their lives do not see themselves like hearing people do. Especially those with deaf relatives, parents and siblings, compared to a child who has hearing parents and siblings. My parents and sister are hearing but I am very hard of hearing due to severe ear infections as a toddler. I can speak, use the phone and such but I wear hearing aides because I am 70% deaf in left ear and 80% in my right so conversations are really hard for me to follow. I learned ASL and can lip read a tiny bit but it is not easy.. Hearing people rely so much on their hearing that they don't realize that we just adapt well to using our other senses to balance things out.. Considering how much BS is talked by people, in conversations, I think being deaf can have it's benefits.
***** What your talking about is your attitude towards the dissability, and the relationship between you as a person and the hearing issues. What Im talking about is simply the relationship between the dissability and the hearing. Im not telling you or anyone to be this or that, i pointed that out specifically! All im saying is that being deaf means your hearing is flawed. then you can go on living you life with that information and make something positive out of it if your lucky. But at the base, its a flaw, and ppl seems ok with denying that too, pretending it doesnt exists. And thats the best way to approach it, That doesnt seem very heathy to me, Im sure you can honest about it and still live a very good life.
i understand what you're getting at. some people deny it being a flaw because it makes it a little more bearable.
Fabulous for us Brits in Deaf Education - many thanks.
The captions are excellent too.
It would be exciting to visit that Laboratory. I am very happy to see all the progress done for Deaf studies and the jobs for Deaf Scholars. I am for ASL in the deaf schools and I wish that public schools would offer ASL as a Foreign Language option besides Spanish and French that is offered.
Really great testing and definitely builds on Martin Seligman's work on Resiliance. As a late deafened person, I can really see that having a bigger toolbox of skills makes a huge difference in adaptation. My toolbox is rather small. I have taken two ASL classes, but sign on maybe a 1st grader's level of skill. That prevents me from acculturation with the Deaf. I am now acculturated to a hearing world, but am lacking in language skills necessary to living a more full, understanding life. And, yes, I relate very much with the idea of Resiliance. As a deaf adult with low communication skills, My Resiliance has dropped tremendously. It has also led me to withdraw from both Deaf and Hearing, because I don't quite fit in to either category. I end up isolating myself. I am having a good life, but it is not a life that allows me to be as involved as I should be in either situation. I understand it cognitively. I do seek out technology to help. I do involve myself more with Deaf culture. I don't ever think I will be able to be very proficient at being accepted much with the Deaf community, until I get more proficient with signing.
Good job evaluating your hypothesis. I am curious if you had participation from enough subjects to have normative scoring? (1,000 or more subjects). I see in my own life the truth of your work. Now I encourage you and your colleagues to develop methods to "inoculate" deaf/Deaf to be more successful, and more resiliant.
I Totally agree with you. It’s very nice to meet you❤️🤟 I can speak ASL gloss because it is another language to English. I use Resilience as a deaf woman I can really see the Backchambling that is important to use it in schools me and my family uses sign language I have a huge family to be honest it is very entertaining for me a little emotional it makes me very happy and blessed right before I was born in Dec 3rd 2004 my doctor told my parents that I was not going to make it and to see them and I almost died but I didn’t. I recovered from Autism and Down syndrome I’m going to college next year after I graduate I’m a senior now in my high school I also use sign language for my class to help me know more about the deaf culture and language in ASL gloss thanks for reading This god bless
Very thank you! Dr. Peter Hauser!
This is what I have seen every day unfortunately. Super speech!
Excellent!
Question for research: why is it that some deaf children in non-signing hearing families grow up to have strong protective factors while others with the same intelligence and background do not? Especially if both have the same educational pedigree and lack of ASL until adulthood. That would be a good topic for a Ph.D. dissertation!
+Russ Kane Resliency.. been study amongst hearing non signing people.. Resliency
Hearing loss is a disability, but Deafness isn't *just* hearing loss. (And that doesn't take into account the people who are born deaf and never had any hearing to lose. How can you call it a disability, if they have never known life any other way?) There is so much more depth and richness to the culture than just "can't hear" or "can't hear well." I'm hearing, and I'm not even going to pretend I understand all of that depth and richness, so I'm not even going to try.
All I can say is that when most, if not all, hearing people think about deafness, they think about it in terms of them having hearing all of their life, and then suddenly losing it. They cannot imagine a world that never had sound, or never had usable sound. They can only imagine sudden loss. As a hearing person, if I were to suddenly lose my hearing, that would be a HUGE change to my life. I would consider myself disabled. I would try to get hearing aids or possibly cochlear implants, even though I do know some sign language, because my brain is "hearing." I'm 42. Transitioning to "not hearing" would be very difficult.
I might be able to understand hearing parents not teaching their kids ASL because ASL has a structure that is difficult for many hearing people to grasp. Not impossible, of course, but difficult for many. But ASL is not the only signed language in America. PSE uses the ASL signs, but with the more linear English word order. For many hearing parents, I think this would be a good alternative. Systems like Signing Exact English would not be great as a conversational language, but might be good for teaching certain English language skills. There are so many options, and it is baffling to me that any parent would deny their child a usable language.
My oldest son is autistic and was non-verbal until he was nearly 3 years old. He was regressive, which means he developed normally to a point and then seemed to lose that progress. A couple months after that happened, and it was clear that it wasn't coming back any time soon, we used sign language with him. He never developed solid skills, but he could say a few things like "more" and "please." He called an elderly neighbor of ours "grandpa." It was clear that the language was in there, but verbal expression was locked off. At one point, my husband's father told him that he needed to "stop doing this" (while making nonsensical hand movements) "and start talking." I told him that he had a language he could use that I could understand, and how dare he tell him to stop. Around age 3, his verbal skills started to kick in and he eventually dropped the signs.
He's 14 now and doesn't even remember that he'd ever used them, but I often wonder how long it would have taken him to become verbal without the ability to express himself with sign language. What an amazing thing and what a valuable resource! If there were never deaf people in the world, there would never be sign language, and I would have had a chunk of time--time which is important for language acquisition in young children--that might have been lost. I can't even imagine that. Give children language!!
purpleiguana Well I started out having hearing. I then went deaf in one ear overnight at age 17. I've then been slowly losing my hearing in the other ear over time. Now I'm closer to being deaf than I am hearing. I consider myself deaf but started out of the hearing world. Deafness is so complex.
To me, deafness itself it NOT a disability... it's the hearing oppressive society that ignores a simple adaption of learning sign language and respecting Deaf Culture. I see it as hearing society are disabled in refusing or too scared or too lazy to make the time to learn ASL (or sign language) to communicate with Deaf folks. If people can gesture, people can certainly learn to sign. I have met many disabled Deaf people with no arms, half fingers, cerebral palsy, floppy fingers and they ALL still signed wonderfully. Once I saw their resilience and STILL sign despite their physical limitations and still be able to communicate in sign language (remember ASL uses the whole body)--- that has taught me there is NO excuse whatsoever for hearing people to pick up their able hands to sign. I once met a hearing man who refused to sign with his profoundly Deaf daughter -- he complained why I refuse to voice as it was "beautiful"... I replied back, "You have beautiful hands, why don't you use them?" He was flabbergasted. There are animals who are naturally deaf... I don't see them having to get cochlear implants, they adapt to their environment. My pets in the past have recognized my deafness and cleverly adapted so that they could communicate with me in a way that I understood them clearly. Talk about embracing changes naturally. Most hearing people are not resilient it seems for the most part once they know there is invasive technology for artificial hearing, they seize it in fear. It's not the deafness that they're afraid of... it's being excluded from their hearing family and friends who won't sign... people who refuse to sign make other deaf people feel isolated, not the deafness itself. I've met many deaf people who fearfully got CIs in hope of that their non-signing hearing families would keep on loving them. How tragic. Helen Keller pointed something tragic of audism: “Blindness separates people from things;
deafness separates people from people.”
― Helen Keller... but it's not deafness that separates people from people. It's PEOPLE separating other people in the form of fear based mentality, abuse and neglect to adapt in a way that is doable physically. It's people's resistance to adapt that destroys the bridges of unity. It's embarrassing that Europe often have many people be able to speak 5 languages and America adamantly insist only speaking in verbal English.
I find it curious that the interpreter is british...I wonder if he knows british sign language as well.
Cool I’m Deaf British reading subtitles that’s interesting I’m sure he does because sometimes they interpret between deaf people
Thank you for your health problems with this
oh man peter really needs to work on fingerspelling skills!!!
a la linguistica es el estudio de las lenguas es decir todo aquello que pertenece o esta relacionado con el lenguaje el medio que usa el individua para comunicarse. La linguistica cuando trata de investigar los señas que usan las personas sordas encuentras una gran variedad de interpretaciones a esto lo llama = ISMO linguisticISMo algunos terminos para comprender: socialISMO, comunISMO, capitalISMO, imperialISMO y el audismo viene por los efectos de la sordera o contra posicion a la sordera AUDISMO cree que el OYENTE es MEJOR. tambien suponiendo creer que el Blanco es mejor que el Negro.o creer que el oyente es mejor que lo del sordo esto es: audISMO es como el oralISMO que no quiere juntarse con las señas para no perder su esencia. breve traduccion del video.
English translation?
@@dizzi2cu100 TH-cam now has English translations built in, commenting so that you can see now cause OP’s comment was a great summary.
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????? What is that supposed to mean. LOL