This is a very powerful conversation. Am Zambian and I watch these conversations, it's amazing these conversations Transend boarders and are so relatable across Africa. Well done Penuel.
Shoutout to Winston... Such wisdom and truly a well balanced man... Loved his views ... Coloured people in this country are so overlooked but they have just as much potential & I got the culture shock that they actually run the beautiful Northern Cape and you never get to see or even hear about it, they are running our only state owned mine and we don't know anything about it. Its all love though we just love being United only when it suits us & it's the simplest of things that can create a division between us
Winston is so genuine, he’d come with his friends to Kwamashu, buy meat and would always want to take a picture with our logo in the background 🙏🏿 much respect for this guy
Winston is a deep well of contemporary intellect. I really look forward to hearing from our generation on our socioeconomic challenges and Winston, did not disappoint. Imagine parliament had our generation and people like Winston, Gayton, Duduzane and Pappas having active solution based conversations about our future❤
One of my favourite episodes thus far... I'm really inspired. This show is really helping me grow my perspective as a 23 year old gent trying to figure out this life thing. You're making a real impact bhuthi omdala. I just finished watching this episode before my night shift as a cleaner at one of the big malls in Durban. I have a diploma in Business Management,but i was hungry enough to take a cleaning gig...and I'm using this to save up so i can fund myself. I religiously follow your work and it keeps me going.
i love HOW Winston Innes ,soft he narrate his history , Guys I love how real You guys a doing it, penuel , learn to be calm like tihs guy is , THIS IN CINEMATIC MOOD . congrates Winston Innes, FROM MOZAMBIQUE HERE , REAL ENJOY YOUR PODE PENUEL ,SUCESS
Penuel, we needed a podcast platform like yours. It's informative and challenges our own ideals so that we may grow. We do need something that tackles logic and doesn't just focus on gossip. I appreciate this platform
@@hlawulanimabunda7782 the problem is when you start putting things in such a context, you end up saying untrue things which stem from pure imagination and not what is presented in front of you. Who said anything about comparing? I'm stating facts. I didn't insult anyone and next time don't say "we", speak for yourself without trying so hard to be forward thinking only to end up looking like a narcissist to me. Please do me that favour.
I've watched the whole episode without skipping... Winston is a true inspiration, These are guys to learn from because their from the kasi and they have mad it out of the kasi.
Penuel the black pen you are a master interviewer who knows how to ask the right questions to bring out the most valuable insights and advice from his guests. Shout out to Winston wisdom. And shout out to you Sir Penuel
Mr. Winston is a gentle giant. He has taken friendship to a "whole other leve"; his commitment, brutal honestly and loyalty to DZ speaks volumes of his character. Mr Pen thanks for adding value to this platform. Remain Resolute, never give up the fight - joy cometh in the morning. What you're doing is priceless and price less. Nuff respect!! Jah Bless!
Shoutout to Winston for this masterclass. Shoutout to Winston & Duduzane for being brothers and true gentlemen. Hope you enjoy the conversation & education 🙏🏽✊🏽❤️
waoo this guy is jst Great and you kniw what Pen.....Thanks for bringing the A game questions that gets your guests to be at their top Game.....Blessings Mvana
My opinion about Duduzane is changing... Positively I must add Between today's interview and the one you had with Duduzane encourages me to think that there's hope for this country if certain things could be changed in governance and systems of government because at this rate, our country is being plunged into the dark ages
I like guys like Winston.. all rounded mfs who can gell with everyone.. I heard him say "lets get busy" with a serious face and I was fully convinced.. when he jokes his voice gets really goofy.. when it's time to drop knowledge he drops it.. U can see a lot of Zulu influence in him. Direct with everything. I'm already a fan.
What a great soul just from watching this interview, very authentic and so real. Well done Penuel for leading this conversation so well. So refreshing to watch you interview ordinary people with so much wisdom and intelligence. I felt this one!
This interview is so dope man, been going through different emotions here; one minute I am wow, next minute I am taking notebook to jot down some notes, next I am laughing,....Winston is so good. I feel like I am in a masterclass
I thoroughly enjoy this podcast but something has just dawned on me. The calibre of men available to teach far outweighs that of women (outside of course of the amazing likes of Mandisa Mashego and Miranda Ntshangase) 😢. I for one would really appreciate hearing more from women that have succeeded because of pure and humble intelligence and grit and NOT what they look like (the pretty privilege thing is annoying… a lot of men and women are a lot more than that 😒). While black South African men generally get a bad wrap… (which is not entirely misplaced) one thing that this podcast highlights is that there are men willing to lead by example and show a side of themselves the media doesn’t expose enough… even if this is an unintentional consequence of these conversations. We women seriously need to do better. We can’t just be known for makeup, celeb gossip, spirituality, baecations, Instagram, TH-cam vlogs, and girlfriend allowance 🙄.
I am in Namibia and i got gooze bums listening to wiston and pen gents i work in the mining Industry and your conversation give me the hope to looking forward to more in life thank you gents
Penuel: You are the real deal. Shake that imposter syndrome and, if necessary, enlist a therapist. Most successful people have that feeling at some point in their life but experience teaches them to put that behind them. Recently, Coco Gauff made a similar comment in an interview and prior to that Naomi Osaka went public with her insecurities. Just by scrolling through the comments you should gain some perspective on how positive your audience feels about your contribution to SA's society. Keep on keeping on!
Top stuff, real power, DZ has a strong team behind the scenes, to all the youth, let’s reflect and step up to shape the future we all wanna see , the revolution has began, it’s taken a different shape and we all fighting in it,whether we realise or not but we have a much more proactive and progressive approach to take to save the only country we have, that we can fight for and support to reach new heights ❤, Winston is a real machine and kudos to Pen for pooling and sport lighting talent otherwise we would have not had the opportunity of being exposed too.
Very insightful conversation, I've learnt a lot from today buy watching Mr Winston.... SAns really want change but problem is their "windscreen r tiny comparing to rear view mirror", I'll apply this statement in my day to day n future plans....
Am glad I clicked on this interview homie is smart humble,worth listening to he so relatable and his life is eventful AF somehow he sounds like 50 cent the rapper
I think Duduzane needs to find a way to make it clear to South Africa of his individualism in his presidential campaign. Because I myself was under the impression that his run, is actually a proxy for his father, and I think most South Africans are also under the same mindset.
His life can be turned into a movie, he has so much to share from his experiences and such fresh thinking is needed as to change the current politic climate in the Southern Africa
There were so many gems dropped on this episode that I needed to hear…not that I had never had them before but this sounded very different…in a great way. That “what you don’t maintain, you lose” really sparked a flame of renewal in me…thank you for the great conversation gents
That that you don't manage, you lose hit the spot across the board as he said, and the family department was the one that stood out. Our moral values within our society is eroding because men are being silenced, they are scared to lead,to manage,take their God given managerial positions within their homes and that's where the degradation of society starts, not in public,but in our homes.Mzwakhe Mbuli said, destruction of the mind, affects the family, destruction of a family,affects the community, destruction of community becomes that of the nation.
I'm so happy to have watched this interview particularly because I have been trying to consume a lot of Duduzane interviews since 2019 due to the interest I have to know more about him than Jacob Zuma's son I'm glad to know that Winton is the main man behind his political push as well. Great interview Pen. Thank you!!
I went for a disciplinary enquiery yesterday, after watching this any results are welcomed. I am inspired and i am prepared to go and feed my children from my vegetable garden. What an interview
Winston, you are so calming to watch I could feel the humility and kindness through your voice. This was a powerful conversation and I love it. Law of magnetism, what you persistently think about will gravitate towards you. I look forward to making this change!! I AM BOLDLY VOTING FOR DUDUZANI ZUMA NEXT YEAR. Parliament does not have to be a home of the elderly. TOGETHER WE CAN DO THIS.
I generally agree with Penuel but I have to disagree with his statement about black people being racist to coloureds. In fact it is the opposite. Coloured people are the ones looking down on black people. It is a compliment when a black person is called or likened to coloured people.
Nah ive never seen a coloured not get mocked in rural black areas. Bring a coloured to Umgababa, Kwamakuta or whatever, straight away they gonna diss the guy and call him/her Mlungu (and in a derogatory way). ...And the older generation see coloreds as degenerate violent drunkards. Its okay to be honest guys. We don't have to act like black society are the saints of the Universe. Everyone has there negatives as well. Its normal 🤞
@@jonathantawil4424 I used to work with two coloured people, both of them were my seniors. One male and another female. While the female wasn't necessary racist, at least not vocally, she portrayed herself as white, and whenever people would mistaken her for a white person, which was pretty much all the time, she wouldn't fight it and was only pleased that people thought she was white, which I didn't have a problem with as it had no effect on my life. Now, the other coloured person who was a man, married to a colored lady once said, "I need to get myself a white side chick, not a black one because I'm married to a colored woman and going black would mean going backwards", this and the fact that he never gave black people opportunities even when they were deserving, he would always give to whites.
We needed a platform like yours Penuel, keep up the good work. Keep gunning for those conversations that challenge one to see life differently, conversations that offer something new to take home for your viewers. We appreciate your work, it takes a Pro to interview like you do.
"You cant wish away the privilege of struggle , it defines your success .You appreciate the sunny days because you have had the rainy days" ✍️
Powerful ❤
Thats beautiful and powerful ❤
That Landed 🤲🏿
Great interview, this guy is so calm and knows how to articulate , we need to hear more of you Winston
Calm dude, very chilled.
Give Penuel his flowers while he can still smell them. Building and sharing knowledge with the young black men to change their perspective on life 🤝🏽
The Penuel Show is a Gift Man we needed this
I genuinely love him for this🤞
Can't wait for several TH-cam "shorts" to be made from this Interview so as to share on statuses with pur young people.
It's something we lack in South African and value him for that
This is a very powerful conversation. Am Zambian and I watch these conversations, it's amazing these conversations Transend boarders and are so relatable across Africa. Well done Penuel.
We need similar content in Zambia
Ayesa muguys. Talking about real issues that affect people everyday and narrating it in a way that is relatable to everyone watching
Totally agree with you. KINDLY CHECK OUT THE GROWTH PODCAST BY SUWILANJI IF YOU CAN.
Shoutout to Winston... Such wisdom and truly a well balanced man... Loved his views ... Coloured people in this country are so overlooked but they have just as much potential & I got the culture shock that they actually run the beautiful Northern Cape and you never get to see or even hear about it, they are running our only state owned mine and we don't know anything about it. Its all love though we just love being United only when it suits us & it's the simplest of things that can create a division between us
I need to listen to this interview atleast once a month. Guy is dangerously calmly intelligent! He needs to speak more! ❤.
Winston is so genuine, he’d come with his friends to Kwamashu, buy meat and would always want to take a picture with our logo in the background 🙏🏿 much respect for this guy
Winston is calmly wise..thank you for this interview 🙏🔥🔥
Pen, Thanks for bringing people we dont know who leave an impact in our soul. big-ups bro.
Winston is a deep well of contemporary intellect. I really look forward to hearing from our generation on our socioeconomic challenges and Winston, did not disappoint. Imagine parliament had our generation and people like Winston, Gayton, Duduzane and Pappas having active solution based conversations about our future❤
Mind you there is still bo "Ronald Lamola" amongst our generation, least we forget.
I love him
Winston !!! what a great orator, Thank you Pen, what an educational conversation.
One of my favourite episodes thus far... I'm really inspired. This show is really helping me grow my perspective as a 23 year old gent trying to figure out this life thing. You're making a real impact bhuthi omdala. I just finished watching this episode before my night shift as a cleaner at one of the big malls in Durban. I have a diploma in Business Management,but i was hungry enough to take a cleaning gig...and I'm using this to save up so i can fund myself. I religiously follow your work and it keeps me going.
Keep growing bro, I'm 23 as well with a HR certificate and I work at a retail store as a groceries packer at checkers trying to get some savings
Another episode that has made me cry! Big ups to the gents….❤
We need more Winston’s in this country,, reflective.. thoughtful. The ability to see where he was wrong.. top man
Where does Penuel find his guests?? I love them!! Please introduce us to more of these interesting African people!!
i love HOW Winston Innes ,soft he narrate his history , Guys I love how real You guys a doing it, penuel , learn to be calm like tihs guy is , THIS IN CINEMATIC MOOD . congrates Winston Innes, FROM MOZAMBIQUE HERE , REAL ENJOY YOUR PODE PENUEL ,SUCESS
Penuel, we needed a podcast platform like yours. It's informative and challenges our own ideals so that we may grow. We do need something that tackles logic and doesn't just focus on gossip. I appreciate this platform
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Don't compare, just enjoy every podcast of your choice. Because if we start to compare them, somewhere somehow we peddle unnecessary beef.
@@hlawulanimabunda7782 the problem is when you start putting things in such a context, you end up saying untrue things which stem from pure imagination and not what is presented in front of you. Who said anything about comparing? I'm stating facts. I didn't insult anyone and next time don't say "we", speak for yourself without trying so hard to be forward thinking only to end up looking like a narcissist to me. Please do me that favour.
The way i was drawn into this conversation was magical. I love how present Winston felt, very inspiring. I wish i had a role model like him in my life
“Never wish away the privilege of struggle” - best quote I have heard so far. I, myself, am so grateful for all the struggles in my life.
Goose bumps ...literal goose bumps, what a phenomenal interview!
This has to be one of my favourite interviews, so many important pointers were mentioned here thank you Penuel and Winston 🙏🏽
What a calm dude💯👌🏾
Pen brings people we don't know. I have subscribed to this channel because of that. so much to learn. thank you
This guy can articulate himself yoh and the gems he drops😩🫶 thanks for gracing us with a bomb ass episode 🔥
This guy is so engaging. Just easy and natural. Good show gents.
I've watched the whole episode without skipping... Winston is a true inspiration, These are guys to learn from because their from the kasi and they have mad it out of the kasi.
Winston's perspective is mind blowing
Penuel the black pen you are a master interviewer who knows how to ask the right questions to bring out the most valuable insights and advice from his guests. Shout out to Winston wisdom. And shout out to you Sir Penuel
Man..this guy was a gem on this interview..was drawn from beginning to end..props to the Penuel show
Mr. Winston is a gentle giant. He has taken friendship to a "whole other leve"; his commitment, brutal honestly and loyalty to DZ speaks volumes of his character. Mr Pen thanks for adding value to this platform. Remain Resolute, never give up the fight - joy cometh in the morning. What you're doing is priceless and price less. Nuff respect!! Jah Bless!
Indeed he has taken friendship to a whole other level....That's so admirable...❤
@@linkiekasale1848 Definitely!!!
Shoutout to Winston for this masterclass. Shoutout to Winston & Duduzane for being brothers and true gentlemen.
Hope you enjoy the conversation & education 🙏🏽✊🏽❤️
You need to invite Winston again 😊😅
waoo this guy is jst Great and you kniw what Pen.....Thanks for bringing the A game questions that gets your guests to be at their top Game.....Blessings Mvana
My opinion about Duduzane is changing... Positively I must add
Between today's interview and the one you had with Duduzane encourages me to think that there's hope for this country if certain things could be changed in governance and systems of government because at this rate, our country is being plunged into the dark ages
I enjoyed this podcast, beautifully paced, some amazing insights and inspirational statements. Thank you.
Bring Winston back
I grew up in Newlands East and around Winston, when he used to be a boxer, and he always stood up to bullies and he can fight lol. Great dude
Winston is so well spoken, big up to him. Dope interview as always man.
Great story! The ability to speak to the soul makes him very interesting. DZ campaign is in great hands and is important for our politics.
Finally people who truly understand the needs of the people of this beautiful country and the true war on poverty ❤
Shout out to Winston, this guy is an excellent storyteller, makes you wanna have a drink with him you know.
17 minutes in and already my jaw dropped don't know how many times, props to the guest, awesome episode 'penuel the black pen'
This is by faaaarrrrrr one of the most interesting interview I've ever watched.
Finally, someone interviews mr Innes. Guy is very sharp!!!
Sifiso Madondo and Winston are very inspiring, thank you for bringing us people of this caliber
"we must be critical of ourselves"... Lessons learnt from this conversation....
I love the watch on his wrist❤
I like guys like Winston.. all rounded mfs who can gell with everyone.. I heard him say "lets get busy" with a serious face and I was fully convinced.. when he jokes his voice gets really goofy.. when it's time to drop knowledge he drops it..
U can see a lot of Zulu influence in him. Direct with everything. I'm already a fan.
What a great soul just from watching this interview, very authentic and so real. Well done Penuel for leading this conversation so well. So refreshing to watch you interview ordinary people with so much wisdom and intelligence. I felt this one!
This interview is so dope man, been going through different emotions here; one minute I am wow, next minute I am taking notebook to jot down some notes, next I am laughing,....Winston is so good. I feel like I am in a masterclass
I feel sad that I finished this episode. Enjoyed listening to this guy.
I thoroughly enjoy this podcast but something has just dawned on me. The calibre of men available to teach far outweighs that of women (outside of course of the amazing likes of Mandisa Mashego and Miranda Ntshangase) 😢. I for one would really appreciate hearing more from women that have succeeded because of pure and humble intelligence and grit and NOT what they look like (the pretty privilege thing is annoying… a lot of men and women are a lot more than that 😒).
While black South African men generally get a bad wrap… (which is not entirely misplaced) one thing that this podcast highlights is that there are men willing to lead by example and show a side of themselves the media doesn’t expose enough… even if this is an unintentional consequence of these conversations.
We women seriously need to do better. We can’t just be known for makeup, celeb gossip, spirituality, baecations, Instagram, TH-cam vlogs, and girlfriend allowance 🙄.
I am in Namibia and i got gooze bums listening to wiston and pen gents i work in the mining Industry and your conversation give me the hope to looking forward to more in life thank you gents
Penuel really coming through w the clean shots!!!
Winston dropped gems here!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Greater admire of Duduzane, so much calm and collected gent💯
Winston is an old soul, an intelligent gent wth so much wisdom.
Great Convo
Winston is a well of wisdom you can listen to the guy the whole day. Thanks Penuel for the critical questions that you have
Penuel: You are the real deal. Shake that imposter syndrome and, if necessary, enlist a therapist. Most successful people have that feeling at some point in their life but experience teaches them to put that behind them. Recently, Coco Gauff made a similar comment in an interview and prior to that Naomi Osaka went public with her insecurities. Just by scrolling through the comments you should gain some perspective on how positive your audience feels about your contribution to SA's society. Keep on keeping on!
Top stuff, real power, DZ has a strong team behind the scenes, to all the youth, let’s reflect and step up to shape the future we all wanna see , the revolution has began, it’s taken a different shape and we all fighting in it,whether we realise or not but we have a much more proactive and progressive approach to take to save the only country we have, that we can fight for and support to reach new heights ❤, Winston is a real machine and kudos to Pen for pooling and sport lighting talent otherwise we would have not had the opportunity of being exposed too.
You are truly a blessing to our community
Winston is such a captivating speaker
Wow life masterclass indeed, thank you Pen 🖊️ ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Great interview gentlemen let's rescue this ailing country of ours 🇿🇦
By far my favorited sit down this year Pen , very likeable gent.
Very insightful conversation, I've learnt a lot from today buy watching Mr Winston.... SAns really want change but problem is their "windscreen r tiny comparing to rear view mirror", I'll apply this statement in my day to day n future plans....
The man is legendary, me, him and Duduzane have a future appointment
This is the guy who should be running for president!!! Winston, you're not the backup dancer. You're the main act.
Am glad I clicked on this interview homie is smart humble,worth listening to he so relatable and his life is eventful AF somehow he sounds like 50 cent the rapper
I think Duduzane needs to find a way to make it clear to South Africa of his individualism in his presidential campaign. Because I myself was under the impression that his run, is actually a proxy for his father, and I think most South Africans are also under the same mindset.
True
That was deep ❤❤ that black mamba thought when you have to go at night and big bro dont wanna take you...eish.. life changing memories
15 minutes into this, I like it already. Awesome work The Black Pen, you never disappoint.
His life can be turned into a movie, he has so much to share from his experiences and such fresh thinking is needed as to change the current politic climate in the Southern Africa
Great Interview Penuel. Please allow the interviewee a chance to complete their stories. You throw them off quite often. Peace and Love
I agree with you
He must learn from I grotman u Sbuda
"In conversation with...", it's not an interview it's a conversation, you're supposed to be a "fly on the wall" for the conversation.
A prepared interviewee . Insight, foresight and motivation. I'm touched.
There were so many gems dropped on this episode that I needed to hear…not that I had never had them before but this sounded very different…in a great way. That “what you don’t maintain, you lose” really sparked a flame of renewal in me…thank you for the great conversation gents
That that you don't manage, you lose hit the spot across the board as he said, and the family department was the one that stood out. Our moral values within our society is eroding because men are being silenced, they are scared to lead,to manage,take their God given managerial positions within their homes and that's where the degradation of society starts, not in public,but in our homes.Mzwakhe Mbuli said, destruction of the mind, affects the family, destruction of a family,affects the community, destruction of community becomes that of the nation.
Wiston is actually very funny, he sounds like he has stories for days. Pen thank you for this platform
Never seen pen laughing so hard😂😂😂
Pen continue to teach us, like i always say we need the lessons ❤❤❤
The Penuel Show with Winston Innes
00:00 - INTRO
00:05 - Show begins
03:25 - Biography
08:45 - Struggle, confidence & competency
17:05 - Challenging yourself
23:10 - Slacking in boxing career
34:15 - Violence &gangs
41:05 - Sports & boxing
47:40 - Gayton McKenzie
50:00 - Life after car accident
1:02:35 - Associating with like-minded people
1:07:00 - Challenging yourself
1:09:05 - Oil & petroleum industry
1:19:05 - Duduzane Zuma & adversity
1:25:35 - Importance of building value
1:30:25 - Duduzane Zuma controversy
1:35:55 - Journey of starting my business
1:48:55 - Importance of struggle
1:53:00 - Supporting Duduzane Zuma's independent candidacy
1:58:00 - Understanding the business
2:07:22 - ENDS
@ Khwezi…Thank you
Was looking forward to hear his thoughts on PA... so I hope he comes back but wow... l'm in awe❤
I'm so happy to have watched this interview particularly because I have been trying to consume a lot of Duduzane interviews since 2019 due to the interest I have to know more about him than Jacob Zuma's son
I'm glad to know that Winton is the main man behind his political push as well.
Great interview Pen. Thank you!!
Big S/O to Mr Van, lots of wisdom and he a real shooter. That man was my first client.
I went for a disciplinary enquiery yesterday, after watching this any results are welcomed. I am inspired and i am prepared to go and feed my children from my vegetable garden. What an interview
What an amazing interview 🙏🏽✨️
This is the best Interview i have ever listened to in the recent past. Very insightful indeed.
There's so much weight in this conversation. 🙏🏿
Shout out from down under! Brilliant interview 👏
Winston, you are so calming to watch I could feel the humility and kindness through your voice.
This was a powerful conversation and I love it. Law of magnetism, what you persistently think about will gravitate towards you.
I look forward to making this change!! I AM BOLDLY VOTING FOR DUDUZANI ZUMA NEXT YEAR.
Parliament does not have to be a home of the elderly. TOGETHER WE CAN DO THIS.
WOW , PURE WOW🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽THE QUALITY OF CALM & WIZDOM FROM THIS MATURE MANS MOUNTH , BIGS UPS SIR 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽HATS OFF TO GOD PENWEL FOR ANOTHER 1
Dope chat gents! Thanks for the mental food 😉
The most interesting interview I've watched after the Vusi's interview.
My BEST INTERVIEW so FAR!!I LEARNT that MENTAL FORTIFICATION IS KEY TO A PRODUCTIVE LIFE!
Penuel, this was so insightful... Thank you so much for this interview 🙏
Well spoken and an intelligent guy..
I generally agree with Penuel but I have to disagree with his statement about black people being racist to coloureds. In fact it is the opposite. Coloured people are the ones looking down on black people. It is a compliment when a black person is called or likened to coloured people.
True.
Facts
Nah ive never seen a coloured not get mocked in rural black areas. Bring a coloured to Umgababa, Kwamakuta or whatever, straight away they gonna diss the guy and call him/her Mlungu (and in a derogatory way). ...And the older generation see coloreds as degenerate violent drunkards. Its okay to be honest guys. We don't have to act like black society are the saints of the Universe. Everyone has there negatives as well. Its normal 🤞
Facts 💯
I'm not sure what he wanted to achieve by saying that.
@@jonathantawil4424 I used to work with two coloured people, both of them were my seniors. One male and another female. While the female wasn't necessary racist, at least not vocally, she portrayed herself as white, and whenever people would mistaken her for a white person, which was pretty much all the time, she wouldn't fight it and was only pleased that people thought she was white, which I didn't have a problem with as it had no effect on my life.
Now, the other coloured person who was a man, married to a colored lady once said, "I need to get myself a white side chick, not a black one because I'm married to a colored woman and going black would mean going backwards", this and the fact that he never gave black people opportunities even when they were deserving, he would always give to whites.
experience plus brains, I loved the show
Winston you'r a GOAT! my man.
I like the topics you interrogate and the type of people you invite. Thank you my brother. Let's continue with the intellectual debates.
Penuel and team, thanks a lot guys for this platform... Damn! Winston, thank you Bro for your time and wisdom bro.
We needed a platform like yours Penuel, keep up the good work. Keep gunning for those conversations that challenge one to see life differently, conversations that offer something new to take home for your viewers. We appreciate your work, it takes a Pro to interview like you do.
You can't wish away the privilege of struggle, it defines your success! You appreciate the sunny days because you have had rainy days. Keep 💯
What a very informative conversation, 🏆👊🏾 Amazing Pen
Winston is humble and smart
Refreshing conversations and very inspirational.
Easily the best interview on on your show thus far