Nice honest review, but I'm curious, why you would think you could cast far with a 5.6 noodle rod. Perhaps a 7ft would be more effective for long casts. I get the need for a travel size rod, but expecting a rod to do something it isn't meant for, will make you unhappy.
Long casts come from longer rods. A 5'6" isnt designed to cast a mile its design to be compact and for close quarters. If you want a long cast with that carbon rod buy a 6'6" or 7'. Most bass fisherman and pros especially use longer rods for rocket long casts and shorter rods for close quarters and precision casts.
@@cessarnino6587 smh I have micro guides on over half my rods and length of rod will infact keep you from casting a longer cast or help you with a longer cast depending in length of the rod. I've been fishing 35 years and was once a tournament angler lol I do know a thing or two 😅
@@cessarnino6587 it doesn't come down to each person lol. Go research here on TH-cam everyone will tell you the same. The longer the rod the longer you can cast. The shorter the rod lease casting distance but more accuracy plan and simple. There's no way you'll out cast a 7' rod with a 5'6" rod.
I have 3 and they have proven themselves for saltwater surf fishing best catch 61 inch striped bass it was paired with an okuma 3000 avenger with 12lb braid it handled like a champ. Casting do takes practice but after awhile you do gain distance.
FYI...w that smaller bottom eye It controls the spiraling of the line that comes off the spool as you cast out. It also controls that spiral from being wider keeping it from slapping the rod which hinders distance. Another factor could be from what I see although you have a top spinner that reel looks too big or the spool diameter the lip circumference is wide so the line as it peels off the spool the spiral is wide. Another is the line guides the newer rods if you notice the guides are smaller and further aways from the blank preventing the line from slapping throughout the rod. More line guides also controls the line spiral keeping it smaller and tighter to control the line. Also the pound test and thickness affects distance. Of course longer the pole farther the throw. So in short find a smaller reel w a smaller spool diameter a rod w smaller line guides throughout that are further away from the blank and smaller line diameter. I find 8lb test mono that's soft and little to no memory is the money maker for distance. Ande line and trilene big game for example are horrible lines to spool your reels w. Trust the information I share. I've been fishing from a kid and bought and own alot of spinning rods and it took me nearly 20 plus yrs to figure it his out. Hope this helps.
The carbon, having more back bone then the gx2, is suited for heavier lures. If you're throwing 1/4oz with the gx2, try a 3/8-1/2oz lure with the carbon.
I own the UglyStik Carbon spinning rods in 6’6” M, 6’10” ML and 7’ MH and have zero issues casting distances. I believe it’s all about reel and line. I have 2 Abu Garcia Revo X reels (one is size 20 and one in size 30) using Berkley Trilene Sensation 6lb and 8lb line. And then a Lews Carbon size 300 reel with Berkley Sensation 10lb line.
I use very good quality line and reel. I think the issue was that it needed to be broken in a little more. Now that I have caught a lot more fish with it it casts much further.
So if I can put my two cent in the carbon rods are stiffer which means you don’t get that whipping action you expect. The length also effects it as leverage can create a advantage as far as distance. Your rod is meant for small tight quarters and such. Carbon rods in general don’t have much flex and whipping action. I prefer a gx2 or elite ugly stick although I have pocket combo for fishing small creeks or tight quarters . The gx2 also has a travel combo although I prefer a pflueger reel too. Anyways the sensitivity on that rods seems attractive on that rod however I’d be scared of it breaking on me... hence why I havnt made that switch I’ve had a couple rods snap on me that where worth a lot more.
agreed 100% a carbon rod compared to an elite rod of the same length is what I'm getting at. the elite has much more flex and thus can cast farther than the carbon because the carbon is so stiff.
Every rod has a sweet spot as far as weight goes. Sounds like you need to find the right weight lure, line, and reel. I have a bunch of Ugly Stiks but no carbon models so far. I have some GX2s and a couple Lite Pros and an 8' surf rod. I like the 7' Lite Pros a lot, I have a baitcaster and a spinning rod. Both are light and sensitive. Did you get used to the carbon Ugly Stik?
It has gotten much better now that I have caught some bigger fish with it...almost as though it needed to be broken in, but yes it has gotten much better since posting this video and I agree with what many other people in here have said about my reel spool possibly being a little large. The carbon rod overall is a great rod for its weight savings while backpacking and the backbone that it has to haul in bigger fish.
Defiantly the Rod I want. I'm looking for fast action, portable, and light weight. Fishing on land from the banks of rivers between trees, and don't want to cast into the middle of the river and get snapped off.
I tried a 7’ one piece carbon for walleye jigging and I completely agree. Not a bad rod as far as feel and fight, but they cast absolutely terrible. I have 8 other ugly sticks that I love, but that carbon is not one of them.
I would definitely suggest maybe trying braid. I think you said your usually using 8lb flouro? Dude, you should totally try some 10lb yozuri super braid. You’ll be amazed next time you try to bomb a lure out there. Definitely be sure to tie on a mono or flouro leader with a uni knot though. As an angler that is almost exclusively relegated to the bank, long casts are also important to me. Try some braid, I don’t think you’ll regret it
I use 5lb flouro but I will say, it has gotten much better as the rod is more broken in now. Not opposed to giving braid a try though, thanks for the comment! 🤙🏻
Great vid, I bought that rod because of your first video but it's been sitting unused since I bought it. I think I bought the 6'6" I'll check. I'm also a fan is 4'6 to 5'6 poles since I prefer to fish creeks and small rivers.
@@briharesfishingtours exactly. That's why I have one bigger rod for lake fishing. In the next week or two I'm going back to Kings Canyon and hopefully soon after back to Jackass Meadows.
@@briharesfishingtours Didn't fish there yet but it's at the end of the Kings Canyon Scenic Byway, the road comes to an end past Zumwalt meadow. At the end it circles around. The last parking lot on the right before you circle around us where I parked and walked to the river. Actually camping this weekend overnight so I'll be fishing there this weekend. 👍
If you wanna test the theory try dunking an uglystik big water rod from 8' -12'. Most times you pair w at least a 6000 size reel spooled w 20lb mono. Toss your line out and watch the line as it peels off the spool to the line guide closest to the reel or that bottom line guide as you called it. You will see the line will slap the rod it'll prevent distance. If you have braid be prepared to get windknots because w braid it's soft and because the spiraling of the braid is wide and the wider line guides can't control the spiral it'll creat windknots. I think that reel is too big for that 5'6" rod and a 5'6" won't cast fat either. Hope this info also helps...Aloha from HAWAII my braddah🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
The problem is the reel size , the size of the loop coming off that reel is too big for the eye . Put a reel with a smaller spool diameter on it like say a 2500 size and your casting distance will increase quite substantionally .
I think it makes a difrence. Length hels for sure also learning the rod idk I had a 6,6 ugly and then a 7.5 egal and my old ugly casted further but I'm gonna use this at the ilupconing derby and I'm gonna do a review here and on ticktock
Just saw this video, searching for Ugly Stik Carbon info myself. I appreciate your candidness. (Liked and subbed). You made me laugh a couple times, thanks. I think I am hearing if I want to get one of these, I should maybe drop down in power from what I really intend to use so I can get more flex? I love how durable other Ugly Stik rods are. Also, curious if you could try a reel with a smaller diameter spool to cut down on the friction during the cast. I have a number of ultra-lights already and I really like the look of this new rod. I do have two old school ugly stik ultra-light two piece rods but they like to come apart when I cast sometimes. Is that an issue with this two piece rod? Thanks for the video.
Yeah I would consider dropping down in power slightly. I have other ugly stiks as well and this rod just feels very rigid when compared to those. Trying a smaller spool may help slightly but probably not much as the line comes off that Pflueger patriarch very smoothly and I have had zero issues yet with this pole coming apart when I cast but I have had that happen with other ugly stiks from time to time.
The first guide closest to the reel is called the 'stripper guide'. It's size doesn't really make a difference in casting distance, it's the Ugly Stik rod with the noodly tip that doesn't lend to long distance casts. I've long since given up on Ugly Stik rods. You want a really good spinning rod that casts a mile? Go with a Tsunami Slimwave. Ugly Stiks are overpriced junk.
The reel you just held up does not go with that rod or perhaps any rod . Draw yourself a straight line between your spool and your first guide . If the spool does not point to the guide your going to have problems casting . Your reel is displaying no angle at all as it looks as if it’s parallel to the rod.
First of all short rods aren't made for long casting. 2nd, it looks like you bought a rod made for a bait caster and you're describing a spinning reel. Bait caster rods generally have the smaller guides, spinning reel rods have bigger guides. You sound smart though.
Thank you for the comment. Yes I am aware that longer rods are able to cast farther and no this is not a bait casting rod. It is spin casting rod. After using it for a couple years now it is much more “broken in” and casts much better with the exact same setup. I do have some bait casting rods for bass fishing so you are correct that the guides on those are much smaller
Smaller eyes than a smaller reel you have a 3000 and up by what you showed that's not going to cast I too have the 5'6" but with President in 20 size and I cast across the river
yeah it's a 35. I bought it during covid and it was the only one available and I really wanted to try out the patriarch line. I had that reel on my 6.6 gx2 last weekend and could easily cast a mile. I will add a 25 to my wish list to try out with a 5'6 rod.
your excuse of the bottom guide being small is one of ignorance. Testing has been done and smaller bottom guides have been found to be better. Most rod manfactures are going to smaller guides. So it is most like operator error or could just be the rod is not great.
Wrong line small first eyelet is for braid line thinner and flows better than mono. So now you need to learn gear. Wow learn to cast to it will help. Practice. Ps wow your vid lacks spice thought I was listening to my ex explains my divorce needed coffee to wake up after your video. Long dragged out over very little. Hope to see you spice it up a little. Trust me ime not mean. But this vid got the 😴 factor. Hope you do better. .yes ugly good but carbon lighter and not for every one less backbone more flexible and you have to cast different to go far. That's why tiger and gx in my collection more back bone stiffer I like.
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Nice honest review, but I'm curious, why you would think you could cast far with a 5.6 noodle rod. Perhaps a 7ft would be more effective for long casts. I get the need for a travel size rod, but expecting a rod to do something it isn't meant for, will make you unhappy.
Exactly 💯
Long casts come from longer rods. A 5'6" isnt designed to cast a mile its design to be compact and for close quarters. If you want a long cast with that carbon rod buy a 6'6" or 7'. Most bass fisherman and pros especially use longer rods for rocket long casts and shorter rods for close quarters and precision casts.
Agreed. But I can cast much farther with other ugly stik rods that are 5’6 that are not the carbon rod.
The smaller eyes is what keeps him from casting like the rest so a smaller reel is what he needs on it
@@cessarnino6587 smh I have micro guides on over half my rods and length of rod will infact keep you from casting a longer cast or help you with a longer cast depending in length of the rod. I've been fishing 35 years and was once a tournament angler lol I do know a thing or two 😅
I guess it comes down to each person I have the 5'6" carbon and I can cast it far I use 1000 size reel
@@cessarnino6587 it doesn't come down to each person lol. Go research here on TH-cam everyone will tell you the same. The longer the rod the longer you can cast. The shorter the rod lease casting distance but more accuracy plan and simple. There's no way you'll out cast a 7' rod with a 5'6" rod.
I have 3 and they have proven themselves for saltwater surf fishing best catch 61 inch striped bass it was paired with an okuma 3000 avenger with 12lb braid it handled like a champ. Casting do takes practice but after awhile you do gain distance.
FYI...w that smaller bottom eye It controls the spiraling of the line that comes off the spool as you cast out. It also controls that spiral from being wider keeping it from slapping the rod which hinders distance. Another factor could be from what I see although you have a top spinner that reel looks too big or the spool diameter the lip circumference is wide so the line as it peels off the spool the spiral is wide. Another is the line guides the newer rods if you notice the guides are smaller and further aways from the blank preventing the line from slapping throughout the rod. More line guides also controls the line spiral keeping it smaller and tighter to control the line. Also the pound test and thickness affects distance. Of course longer the pole farther the throw. So in short find a smaller reel w a smaller spool diameter a rod w smaller line guides throughout that are further away from the blank and smaller line diameter. I find 8lb test mono that's soft and little to no memory is the money maker for distance. Ande line and trilene big game for example are horrible lines to spool your reels w. Trust the information I share. I've been fishing from a kid and bought and own alot of spinning rods and it took me nearly 20 plus yrs to figure it his out. Hope this helps.
The carbon, having more back bone then the gx2, is suited for heavier lures. If you're throwing 1/4oz with the gx2, try a 3/8-1/2oz lure with the carbon.
I own the UglyStik Carbon spinning rods in 6’6” M, 6’10” ML and 7’ MH and have zero issues casting distances. I believe it’s all about reel and line. I have 2 Abu Garcia Revo X reels (one is size 20 and one in size 30) using Berkley Trilene Sensation 6lb and 8lb line. And then a Lews Carbon size 300 reel with Berkley Sensation 10lb line.
I use very good quality line and reel. I think the issue was that it needed to be broken in a little more. Now that I have caught a lot more fish with it it casts much further.
So if I can put my two cent in the carbon rods are stiffer which means you don’t get that whipping action you expect. The length also effects it as leverage can create a advantage as far as distance. Your rod is meant for small tight quarters and such. Carbon rods in general don’t have much flex and whipping action. I prefer a gx2 or elite ugly stick although I have pocket combo for fishing small creeks or tight quarters . The gx2 also has a travel combo although I prefer a pflueger reel too. Anyways the sensitivity on that rods seems attractive on that rod however I’d be scared of it breaking on me... hence why I havnt made that switch I’ve had a couple rods snap on me that where worth a lot more.
agreed 100% a carbon rod compared to an elite rod of the same length is what I'm getting at. the elite has much more flex and thus can cast farther than the carbon because the carbon is so stiff.
Every rod has a sweet spot as far as weight goes. Sounds like you need to find the right weight lure, line, and reel. I have a bunch of Ugly Stiks but no carbon models so far. I have some GX2s and a couple Lite Pros and an 8' surf rod. I like the 7' Lite Pros a lot, I have a baitcaster and a spinning rod. Both are light and sensitive.
Did you get used to the carbon Ugly Stik?
It has gotten much better now that I have caught some bigger fish with it...almost as though it needed to be broken in, but yes it has gotten much better since posting this video and I agree with what many other people in here have said about my reel spool possibly being a little large. The carbon rod overall is a great rod for its weight savings while backpacking and the backbone that it has to haul in bigger fish.
Defiantly the Rod I want. I'm looking for fast action, portable, and light weight. Fishing on land from the banks of rivers between trees, and don't want to cast into the middle of the river and get snapped off.
I tried a 7’ one piece carbon for walleye jigging and I completely agree. Not a bad rod as far as feel and fight, but they cast absolutely terrible. I have 8 other ugly sticks that I love, but that carbon is not one of them.
I will say now that I have caught a lot of fish on this rod it does cast much better now that it is "broken in" a little more.
I would definitely suggest maybe trying braid. I think you said your usually using 8lb flouro? Dude, you should totally try some 10lb yozuri super braid. You’ll be amazed next time you try to bomb a lure out there. Definitely be sure to tie on a mono or flouro leader with a uni knot though. As an angler that is almost exclusively relegated to the bank, long casts are also important to me. Try some braid, I don’t think you’ll regret it
I use 5lb flouro but I will say, it has gotten much better as the rod is more broken in now. Not opposed to giving braid a try though, thanks for the comment! 🤙🏻
Great vid, I bought that rod because of your first video but it's been sitting unused since I bought it. I think I bought the 6'6" I'll check. I'm also a fan is 4'6 to 5'6 poles since I prefer to fish creeks and small rivers.
Same here man! Just frustrating going to the big rivers and not being able to cast where I want to get to haha but get that rod in the water!
@@briharesfishingtours exactly. That's why I have one bigger rod for lake fishing. In the next week or two I'm going back to Kings Canyon and hopefully soon after back to Jackass Meadows.
@@jays6697 Where do you fish in Kings Canyon?
@@briharesfishingtours Didn't fish there yet but it's at the end of the Kings Canyon Scenic Byway, the road comes to an end past Zumwalt meadow. At the end it circles around. The last parking lot on the right before you circle around us where I parked and walked to the river. Actually camping this weekend overnight so I'll be fishing there this weekend. 👍
I have 5 ugly sticks there the best fishing pole I ever had
I've got a Berkeley Cherry Wood 7' med heavy. And I can cast a Half ounce castmaster more than halfway across a lake. It's very bendy
If you wanna test the theory try dunking an uglystik big water rod from 8' -12'. Most times you pair w at least a 6000 size reel spooled w 20lb mono. Toss your line out and watch the line as it peels off the spool to the line guide closest to the reel or that bottom line guide as you called it. You will see the line will slap the rod it'll prevent distance. If you have braid be prepared to get windknots because w braid it's soft and because the spiraling of the braid is wide and the wider line guides can't control the spiral it'll creat windknots. I think that reel is too big for that 5'6" rod and a 5'6" won't cast fat either. Hope this info also helps...Aloha from HAWAII my braddah🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
smaller reel should help That way it shouldn’t be catching on those eyes as much
The rod is not the problem. It's the size of your reel! You need a 2500 or 3000 size reel. Shimano nasci or stradic would be a better option.
The problem is the reel size , the size of the loop coming off that reel is too big for the eye . Put a reel with a smaller spool diameter on it like say a 2500 size and your casting distance will increase quite substantionally .
I think it makes a difrence. Length hels for sure also learning the rod idk I had a 6,6 ugly and then a 7.5 egal and my old ugly casted further but I'm gonna use this at the ilupconing derby and I'm gonna do a review here and on ticktock
Just saw this video, searching for Ugly Stik Carbon info myself. I appreciate your candidness. (Liked and subbed). You made me laugh a couple times, thanks. I think I am hearing if I want to get one of these, I should maybe drop down in power from what I really intend to use so I can get more flex? I love how durable other Ugly Stik rods are. Also, curious if you could try a reel with a smaller diameter spool to cut down on the friction during the cast. I have a number of ultra-lights already and I really like the look of this new rod. I do have two old school ugly stik ultra-light two piece rods but they like to come apart when I cast sometimes. Is that an issue with this two piece rod? Thanks for the video.
Yeah I would consider dropping down in power slightly. I have other ugly stiks as well and this rod just feels very rigid when compared to those. Trying a smaller spool may help slightly but probably not much as the line comes off that Pflueger patriarch very smoothly and I have had zero issues yet with this pole coming apart when I cast but I have had that happen with other ugly stiks from time to time.
The first guide closest to the reel is called the 'stripper guide'. It's size doesn't really make a difference in casting distance, it's the Ugly Stik rod with the noodly tip that doesn't lend to long distance casts. I've long since given up on Ugly Stik rods. You want a really good spinning rod that casts a mile? Go with a Tsunami Slimwave. Ugly Stiks are overpriced junk.
I have an Ugly Stik carbon 1 piece 7'6" medium heavy, w/ a Penn battle III 4000, I can toss it out of the park with 30# braid...
The reel you just held up does not go with that rod or perhaps any rod . Draw yourself a straight line between your spool and your first guide . If the spool does not point to the guide your going to have problems casting . Your reel is displaying no angle at all as it looks as if it’s parallel to the rod.
That 5'6" rod works better w a 2500 and under size reel w no bigger than 8lb test low memory mono or 10lb braid
First of all short rods aren't made for long casting. 2nd, it looks like you bought a rod made for a bait caster and you're describing a spinning reel. Bait caster rods generally have the smaller guides, spinning reel rods have bigger guides. You sound smart though.
Thank you for the comment. Yes I am aware that longer rods are able to cast farther and no this is not a bait casting rod. It is spin casting rod. After using it for a couple years now it is much more “broken in” and casts much better with the exact same setup. I do have some bait casting rods for bass fishing so you are correct that the guides on those are much smaller
Rod length should make a difference
tooo late im already jumping in here to say HI
Smaller eyes than a smaller reel you have a 3000 and up by what you showed that's not going to cast I too have the 5'6" but with President in 20 size and I cast across the river
yeah it's a 35. I bought it during covid and it was the only one available and I really wanted to try out the patriarch line. I had that reel on my 6.6 gx2 last weekend and could easily cast a mile. I will add a 25 to my wish list to try out with a 5'6 rod.
It's a moderate fast LIGHT. Can't just look at the action
Shorter rod shorter casting distance
your excuse of the bottom guide being small is one of ignorance. Testing has been done and smaller bottom guides have been found to be better. Most rod manfactures are going to smaller guides. So it is most like operator error or could just be the rod is not great.
This is where length does in fact matter 🤣🤣🤣
haha it does. and flexibility!
How come everyone commenting on this video is illiterate ? 😂
Can’t cast with this this rod? You must be a rookie lol
Been mountain trout fishing in the high sierras for 26 years. But yeah. Probably just a rookie
You’re not holding your mouth right
you dont know how to fish lol jk good video
you're probably right
Wrong line small first eyelet is for braid line thinner and flows better than mono. So now you need to learn gear. Wow learn to cast to it will help. Practice. Ps wow your vid lacks spice thought I was listening to my ex explains my divorce needed coffee to wake up after your video. Long dragged out over very little. Hope to see you spice it up a little. Trust me ime not mean. But this vid got the 😴 factor. Hope you do better. .yes ugly good but carbon lighter and not for every one less backbone more flexible and you have to cast different to go far. That's why tiger and gx in my collection more back bone stiffer I like.
It might be because you’re trying to cast a “pole,” and not a “rod”?????
Maybe?