Go read "The Enemy within: Thatcher's Secret War Against the Miners". At the time it was reported that Arthur Scargill embezzled money from the NUM. However, later we found out that this was not true and it turned out the intellegince services put money in his account and then sent the bank statement to the papers. Absolute disgrace that the state done this to one of our own citizens.
Its a clear as day to me that Roger Windsor was a plant. Out of all that the only thing is the £25,000 at the start. Scargill fucked up and the secret services had a man in the room most of the time to catch him out
Scargill was a loser who conned Union members to follow his lies, and support a strike. NUM members were desperate. Scargill gave them hope. Then robbed them. There are NO TRADES UNION LEADERS WHO DO NOT LIVE A GOOD LIFESTYLE. Paid for by the poor members, who have to live hand to mouth. The Union Leaders denounce Capitalism, yet socialism is more biased against the needy. and want to get as much as they can out of their struggling members. With Capitalism you have an idea where you are going. Socialism is all smoke, mirrors and deception.
A repulsive figure . He was also totally inflexible . He had them by the nuts and could have easily reached a deal ie better pay and that would have been best for both sides BUT he was hell bent in bringing down Thatcher's gov. Revolution is what he had in mind. The Brits dont like that which is further proof how little grasp he had of the national mood let alone on the other half . Not everyone is working class . He would have fitted right into 1917 revolution in the soviet union .
@@millwallholdings Yeah with a complexion of a gammon . Lynch i believe his name is. I read in a newspaper he gets paid 135.000 per year to make commuting on public transport a misery. Same as the prime minister who gets 140 k.
Our union branch delegate, Frank Slater Maltby branch, went on a fund raising tour in the Netherlands where he collected 2,000 Gilders in cash, months later the Dutch sent a letter to Maltby branch about how they were glad to assist in our struggle. Maltby branch`s other officials confronted Slater at his home about the 2,000 Gilders he opened a draw and there it was, asked why he said he was waiting for the exchange rate to go up before changing it to sterling. Yes Frank sure you were.
It was a lie & Cook got found out ... There's a brilliant bit of TV where Cook got doorstepped as regards this .... It ended Cooks career & rightly so ...The bloke was a fake
I can tell you where a lump of that money went, his daughter. I once had to deliver some items to his daughters property, i wont disclose where it is, however, lets just say, you could hold a festival there, absolutely massive place.
@@trevorhart545 .. You need to know your history mate . I was on Concorde back in the winter 1999 with my wife - 4 kids and my in laws ( only 6 months ish before Charles de Gaulle tragedy ) and I was sat next to a beautiful lady from Barnsley . I mentioned Arthur scargill as the only person I know from there . She basically went nuts and said he had left a very sour taste . Apparently his daughter now has a huge house !!
About 6 years ago I remember reading an academic paper written in the 1990's (if my memory serves me right) by a former miner who had been a staunch supporter of the NUM and Scargill. During his research he. learned that during the 70s the Labour government had closed more mines than the Conservatives ever had and that about 100 more mines were due to be closed by the coal board on the instructions of Labour. Maggie as the new PM ordered a review of the planned closures and as a result about 25% were to be saved from closing down. But Scargill wanted to make a name for himself which he managed to do whilst destroying an entire industry.
Wilson and Callaghan, were closing uneconomical mines without a problem from the Unions. When Maggie did the same Scargill said a miners strike would bring down the tories. However Maggie wrong footed him, The "THUGS" sent in by Maggie were actually sent in by Scargill to further discredit the Government. Allegedly Scargill and his cronies amassed a fortune from the strike. When the Men and their families were getting into debt, and starving. Socialism is like Orwell's 1948. Everyone is equal!! But some are more "equal" than others.
revisionist bollocks mate and you got took in by it , labour pit closures offered re location , tory pit closures just destroyed communities for decades with no hope offered , welcome to the truth , you seem to be in need of it
@@tomfinney3416 Like I said it was an academic paper, not a press interpretation or propaganda. Mate you either lapped up the lies and B.S. or you too are a Marxist like Scargill and he freely admits it. And like all Socialists Scargill demands that all monies be shared equally regardless of input or output as long as its not his money. If you are not prepared to do your own research into Scargill then you are nothing more than a AS sycophant.
I worked at Woolley colliery in Barnsley south Yorks during the strike and lived about 200 yards from Jim Parkers house I know full well as many of us did that all the union men were looked after during the strike, i once turned up late at our union office to go picketing the notts area when i opened the door on the table were piles of money i'd say around £50,000 with three union men putting it in piles ' I said what the fuck is this they all looked shocked and said here is your £15.00 petrol money if your quick you will catch the others up I told a few of my mates when i got there and didnt go to any picket line for about 4 days then the next day i got a visit from our union secretary who asked why i wasn't on the picket line i told him my cars exhaust was hanging off he said get a price and the union would pay for it I said from that money you were all counting if so eff off.
Nottingham miners refused to strike until we held a NATIONAL BALLOT, but Scargill refused because he knew he was afraid of losing and that led to the picket lines and the downfall of the miners ,i had always said as i was on strike at the time if he had had a national ballot and the NUM voted to strike, we would have won but denying a national ballot he split the unions and all is now history.
It was illegal to strike without voting to strike otherwise you would be sacked so you had the miners voting for the right to strike as it happened.I dont know after looking at this program that scargill had any interest in a national ballot because he was just getting all this lybian and russian money for himself and his board members whilst saying it was for the cause of strife of miners.Scargill was a corrupt scumbag.
I dont trust unions. We had one when I worked in a university, 5 years I worked there, we got sold out by the union everytime. I dknt pay for them anymore.
@@probablecausetocheckhard-drive What a pathetic and childish thing to say. Perhaps if Scargill didn;t want his "orders" being disobeyed he should have called a ballot.
They know what a snake scargill turned out to be. He kept them on strike to line his own pockets which ultimately lead to the mines closing far sooner than they would have. Awful man. I’m surprised nobody has done him in by now but I imagine he hides away from the public.
I heard this comment many many years ago " when the strike started Scargill had a big union and a small house at the end of it he had a big house and a small union" say's it all really...🤣😂🤣😂
@@johnhigham5721 What's rubbish about it? That crooked a**hole used the miners, the industry was destroyed but Scargill has a lovely flat in the Barbican.
He never said whether it was true or not.he just said he heard the comment years ago..he cant prove its true and id guess you cant prove its not.@@robertdavidson8028
nothing new with these so called left wing pricks just look at the labour front bench today as we speak that will tell you everything you need to know !!
Go read "The Enemy Within". At the time it was reported that Arthur Scargill embezzled money from the NUM. However, later we found out that this was not true and it turned out the intellegince services put money in his account and then sent the bank statement to the papers. Absolute disgrace that the state done this to one of our own citizens.
Nope, Roger Cook was duped by a crook Roger Windsor (2:56) who had to pay back £29,000 he stole to pay his mortgages. The editor of the Daily Mirror (who worked on this story with Cook) Roy Greenslade apologised to Scargill over this story in 2002 and in the same year Roger Windsor was ordered to pay £250,000 in restitution and costs by a French court. Roger Cook was fooled by the real thief.
They WERE hiding something. They were hiding their assets which had been seized by the government sequestrators for the crime of daring to support their striking members.
He didn't have a Swiss bank account. The Miners' Union had to set up such an account to protect the money that was to pay the striking miners from being sequestered.
Guilty , Scargill was stuffing his face while the miners starved ! He was living in a NUM in central London for free till 2010 . Absolutely disgraceful man .
Allegations made in this programme were proven to be fictitious and untrue. People who made the allegations apologised thereafter. A MI5 sting project as part of their “Get Scargill” campaign. Arthur Scargill, “Britain’s greatest trades union leader”, Tony Benn.
Scargill a clever man, and apparently a thief and a liar, would have made a good politician in those respects, but perhaps wouldn't have ended up quite as rich! How he ever he got away with it remains a mystery.
UNION & TUC were also in on the scam. That is how you get away with it "spreading" the money around. Today in the USA it is now called the Demoncrat Party!
I think "someone" would have to take "them" to court first and prove it - if it could be, and were then proved to be correct. That's how the law works mostly (unless you're Julian Assange or someone like that {i.e. a journalist that embarrasses a government by telling the truth}) or is supposed to work anyway.
Some time ago, in '83 I think, I was driving through Manchester in the early hours 4am, I had local radio on, they played a recorded interview with Scargill. Long before anyone heard of Paxman, Scargill was asked a question and went on one of his rants, the question was repeated and he went on another rant, question repeated again, he started another rant then stopped and said "I've already answered that" Interviewer said "No you haven't, I've asked you but you didn''t answer the question" Scargill completely lost it and went mental, he made all sorts of threats, this was to be the man's last day in radio, he would never work in any media again etc, etc. I thought that should have been repeated every hour on every radio station to let those who didn't know already what a shit he was, but he must have had some veto on the broadcast, shame.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view!" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?"
My Late Mother always said that Scargill, whenever we saw him on tv, was using the Miners for his own benefit, the comments here and Cooks documentary proved that point.
The world does not work like that . He is the one that gets away with it and there are plenty more like him . No loss to him. Trump seems to be the guy that gets away with blue murder too.
Margaret Thatcher was one of the greatest prime ministers this country ever had. She stood up against the *Cold Cold Cold Packed Faced Left* which are now destroying our once great great country.
Weirdly Arthur Scargill turned up at our college common room one day during the strike. It was a small room, no announcement till the day itself, no obvious supporters or sympathisers in the room. It was a strange, casual thing.
What happened to the miners was ordained regardless of who led them, as those who instead followed Neil Greatrex and his "Union of Democratic Mineworkers" and were betrayed by their benefactor Thatcher discovered to their cost.
The unions committed suicide, as someone who was there and a union member (because where I worked was a “closed shop”, I saw first hand the union leaders trying to take over the government. In the seventies it was constant strikes and insane inflation as the bully boys tried to show how strong they were, of course constantly striking, pushing up prices, and making the goods they produced ever more expensive and opening the door to foreign imports. Well done boys, congratulations, you were so bloody clever weren’t you? They worshipped scargill like trump followers.
@freebeerfordworkers So true, I got an HGV license and my dad helped get me a truck driving job there. I was a skilled car bodyshop painter at the time but I actually quadrupled my wages so I was very happy with things, then the union bully boys announced that we were striking for more money, I was used to talking to my boss if I felt I was worth more money and we discussed I man to man, I couldn’t let myself become a tool of the TGWU so I told them that I was very happy thank you and I wouldn’t be joining in. As it was the strike was called off but I was shunned by many of my colleagues.
A sham . Underneath his working class hero image and socialist cloak was a common conman Nowadays they call it champagne and smoked salmon socialists .
What a disgrace Scargill is. Even without this, he had a tragic impact on the mining industry and the men and regions affected. Sadly, it seems as though corruption happens across the piece. from the top to the bottom.
Family members were miners, I've heard more than a couple of accounts of union reps on the picket lines with big wads of cash and registers to give out to those picketing. The idea was, you gave your name, they ticked you off and you got your money for being there. You can probably guess what happened the union reps were ticking off the names of people that weren't there and then pocketing the cash themselves. Money is always the common denominator regardless of which side of the political fence you sit on.
Now you know why he called a miners strike in the hotest summer in 40 years. Just to line his own pocket.. a he had a grace a favour flat in london. Which when the union collapsed he refused to give up. A it ended in a court case
Remember as a young boy when ever Scargill appeared on TV, he would always say, “He’s here, King Arthur” He hated the man even though he was an ex miner himself.
Check the real story. The only man shown to have stolen money to pay his mortgage was Roger Windsor (2:56) Roger's star witness. In total Roger Windsor was ordered by a French Court to pay a total of £250,000 in restitution and costs.
I was a Yorkshire Miner and like many outside his tight circle , I did not think much of him. Whether he was a crook or not , I can`t say. I can say he was a fanatic, a bloody fool and along with Thatcher has a big responsibility for the ruination of the coal industry. Scargill never won a strike ,Gormley ,his predecessor, never lost one and Scargill had the neck to criticise Gormley. This was about the time the megalomaniac Arthur declared himself President for life of the NUM ,finished up with the NUM taking him to court.
Growing up in the 70’s listening to strikes and people slagging off governments WHATS the outcome ? People don’t use coal or mine it like the pre 80’s ,British Leyland is extinct so them strikers got nowhere. I mean what was the point like tell me 🤣
Definitely. As time has gone on and her great legacy can be revised. Margaret Thatcher is without a doubt one of the greatest prime ministers this country has ever had. She stood up against the *Cold Cold Cold Packed Faced Left* who are now destroying this once great great country.
He was investigated but the report said it was all fiction. The only person who ever faced a court was Roger Windsor (2:56) who was Roger Cook's star witness. In 1994 a French court (because he stole the money in France)found he stole £29,000 on the money and used it to pay his mortgage off and he ended up having to pay £250,000 in costs as well. Windsor was also paid £50,000 by The Daily Mirror for this story. In 2002 the then editor of the Daily Mirror apologised to Scargill and admitted it was a mistake and that they paper had been conned. It appears Roger Cook is not able to admit his error.
Born a Collier Die a Collier NUM and Proud. Fought from day 1. March 1984. Orgreave & the full monty. Some off us lived it, saw it, heard it, believe the media....giraffe time. Remember 1984 when you receive your energy bill's this winter.
Think the lefty Green vote is more relevant now than anything that happened nearly forty years ago. They are the group that forced the coal fired power stations into closure.
Scargill started the strike with a small house and a big union. He finished the strike with a big house and a small union. Plainly this man was a crook who took the hardworking miners for fools. These corrupt union officials robbed the miners and laughed all the way. With these type of people running the union the strike was doomed to fail. Scargill consorted with Libya a regime based on terror. Scargill’s regime was based on keeping men working underground in dirty dangerous conditions while he creamed off huge profits for himself. You can always tell when Scargill is lying …….his lips move …
RMT are only doing 2 day strikes ..if they did 3 day strikes , they would have to pay members hardship funds ....unions dont like paying out to members .
Never forget when I lived on an estate in knottingley it was full of firemen and miners and the firemen always backed the miners but told them never to trust Arthur scargill!
I’m from further north than the mines in Scotland and I’m 46. I remember watching the strikes on tv but I didn’t learn until much later that we had miners here in Scotland. I remember Ravenscraig being closed and other industries being shafted. Bad craic back then and I feel terrible that hardworking folk went through so much strife while politicians could afford to drag out negotiations and decide to close shipyards, factories and mines without giving 2 phucks about the people it affected. I grew up in a small fishing village and it died on it’s arse long ago. At least we have the NHS and the Ministry of Defence up here, they’re the two biggest employers.
Scargill lived like a king yet the miners got close to nothing. I’d have been breaking the strike practically every day if I’d been a miner at that time. Why a solid strike anyway? Why not just strike a couple of days a week? Thank God the union caved in in the end. It doesn’t bear thinking about if the government had lost.
I Remember this bloody big mouth on the tv news, Never knew who he really was but he used to really annoy me and so yet he was another twat of a union then just like the pillicks now on the railway causing the never ending ridiculous strikes and come 20 to 30+ years from now most will be gone or dead and there'll probably be some other sort of trains and not so many drivers etc and then what would've be achieved? Just like the minors nothing in the long run just proves that it speeds up the changes in technology
@@amadeusquadeer7203 “A class traitor”! Pfff! Don’t talk utter bull💩! Do you really expect everyone of working class status to vote for the looney labour party? Not a chance!
I Have Been Asking The Question About The Soviet £.3.00.00.00 Milllion Pounds From Squeezed Out Of The Under Paid And Overworked Soviet Miner's, What Happen To The Money, £.3. Million Pounds,!!!??????? No Wonder Scargill Was Able To Buy Two Flats In The London Barbican Centre, At At Least £.4-to- 6.5.00.00 Thousands Pounds Each, And Pay Off His Own Mortgage In Yorkshire 7--to--10 Week's After The Miner's Strike, A Dirty Big House, 6, Bedrooms Detached House, ??????? £1500.00 Thousands Pound House,!!!!!!!!,.??????? Scargill Was A Communist Markist Crook, !!!!!!! Who Thought He Could Do What Joe Gormley Did To That Spineless Useless Tory Git Heath In 1974, The Three Day Week,!!!!! Power Cuts Every Day, !!!!! I Very Well Remember,!!!!! Scargill A Communist Git,!!!! And A Thief' 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳,
This was the beginning of the end of all significant Unions in G/ Britain 🇬🇧 😢 now we have no contract employment, no guaranteed hours, minimum wage contracts, and no security and we have Thatcher to thank
Same reason as why Russia sent aid. To destabilise the country. They couldn't care less about British miners, even when striking they were better off than the average Russian or Libian
My grandad used to be his Best friend earlier on he died in 81 , major Money, my dad took a Luger off me that I took out of my grandmas draw when I was young in Barnsley, I thank my family for working with coal
Alan Walker That's What I'd Like To Know,!!!????????? Perhaps A Gutless Spineless Useless Tory Bunch Of Twits,???????, And The Croupption Of The Poxey So-called Labour Party,!!!!!?????,
@@millwallholdings how easily my type are are fooled......really, and YOU think the state could be bought off by Scargill🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣 and my type are easily fooled🤣🤣🤣🤣
Roger Cook climbed out of the same cesspit of scargill, just to add I was on strike from March the 5th 1984 to March the 5th 1985 through no choice of my own, hence why I have a huge dislike for the unions and the mainstream media.
Whilst I am in no way defending Arthur Scargill, nor whatever he was guilty of, we should remember that his documentary is not the last word on these allegations and counter-positions. The Wikipedia on AS gives a decent overview of that time and what was accused etc., and there have been many articles and books since then that makes what is here less cut'n'dried. I don't blame Roger Cook, and I'm not suggesting a stitch up by him - I think the integrity of his body of work stands for itself - but he only had the narrative presented to him at the time, and not perhaps the full picture.
Wiki is written by "normal people" you really can not rely on it as a source for anything. I have no idea if it' s true or not but wonder why these guys would lie.
@@neilmcintosh6638 I obviously understand Wiki's limitations, and so was only using it to illustrate my point about the definitiveness of this documentary, when there was clearly much disputed in what was asserted here in entirely one direction. And I say that as someone with very clear memories of the strike, and who worked on the soup kitchens and fund raised for the miners and their families, but I had no great admiration for Scargill at the time, so I have no reason to jump to defend him personally. The fact that I disliked/ distrusted his motives him makes it intuitive to have my prejudices confirmed by this. However, the propaganda machine at the time, and for a number of years after always made me suspicious that there was a strong agenda to rubbish the integrity of the strike and any of those closely involved with it.
@@neilmcintosh6638 The wiki pages have footnotes to sourced articles and books. It was a smear against the union and against Scargill. (And I'm not a fan of the bloke.) Funny how an old anti-union hit job gets uploaded to TH-cam in the same period when unions are fighting back against a cost of living crisis that is hurting millions of ordinary working class people. Just a coincidence, no doubt.
Those fellas lost.jobs communitys destroyed,,but treachery still out to blacken the name of this struggle,, don't know much about it,, but the Union here saved my job in Harland and Wolff,,by negotiation with new buyers ,,, strength in unity for the small man ,,☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
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Gutted for the staunch miners that put their faith and hopes for their families futures in this man.
Don't be there all on cruises and holidays with there shit hot pensions!
Go read "The Enemy within: Thatcher's Secret War Against the Miners".
At the time it was reported that Arthur Scargill embezzled money from the NUM. However, later we found out that this was not true and it turned out the intellegince services put money in his account and then sent the bank statement to the papers. Absolute disgrace that the state done this to one of our own citizens.
Its a clear as day to me that Roger Windsor was a plant.
Out of all that the only thing is the £25,000 at the start.
Scargill fucked up and the secret services had a man in the room most of the time to catch him out
@@Bendog300 No they're not mate.
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Praise be the algorithms that have brought me the Cook Repot!!
He treated the miners like lemmings. They believed him all the way off the cliff
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Scargill was a loser who conned Union members to follow his lies, and support a strike.
NUM members were desperate. Scargill gave them hope. Then robbed them.
There are NO TRADES UNION LEADERS WHO DO NOT LIVE A GOOD LIFESTYLE. Paid for by the poor members, who have to live hand to mouth.
The Union Leaders denounce Capitalism, yet socialism is more biased against the needy. and want to get as much as they can out of their struggling members.
With Capitalism you have an idea where you are going. Socialism is all smoke, mirrors and deception.
A repulsive figure . He was also totally inflexible . He had them by the nuts and could have easily reached a deal ie better pay and that would have been best for both sides BUT he was hell bent in bringing down Thatcher's gov. Revolution is what he had in mind. The Brits dont like that which is further proof how little grasp he had of the national mood let alone on the other half . Not everyone is working class . He would have fitted right into 1917 revolution in the soviet union .
@@robertmanfredthurrigl9424 The baldy train union bloke now is doing the same The 100k plus man of the people
@@millwallholdings Yeah with a complexion of a gammon . Lynch i believe his name is. I read in a newspaper he gets paid 135.000 per year to make commuting on public transport a misery. Same as the prime minister who gets 140 k.
@@millwallholdings utter rubbish
Our union branch delegate, Frank Slater Maltby branch, went on a fund raising tour in the Netherlands where he collected 2,000 Gilders in cash, months later the Dutch sent a letter to Maltby branch about how they were glad to assist in our struggle. Maltby branch`s other officials confronted Slater at his home about the 2,000 Gilders he opened a draw and there it was, asked why he said he was waiting for the exchange rate to go up before changing it to sterling. Yes Frank sure you were.
Ah, the Ted Crilly defence.
The money was ‘resting’ in my account 😂😂😂
@@fishydishy8454 careful now 😊
There was collections in ireland at the time also
@@fishydishy8454 Sounds rather shady tbh
When people where starving and begging. What kind of person would do this without a sense of morality towards his so called workers. Despicable.
He didn't.
It was a lie & Cook got found out ...
There's a brilliant bit of TV where Cook got doorstepped as regards this ....
It ended Cooks career & rightly so ...The bloke was a fake
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@@JWD1012 Where did the money go then
@@JWD1012 he still lives in an NUM apartment in London worth millions
The last time I saw Skargill been asked about missing money his words were "I'll look into it " 💼 😂
I can tell you where a lump of that money went, his daughter. I once had to deliver some items to his daughters property, i wont disclose where it is, however, lets just say, you could hold a festival there, absolutely massive place.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
Tony Blair and these other socialists living the dream life whilst fuckin the workers .. Just like the public school tories
@@RoyChadwick51 Q. Thief?
Trotsky?
Marxist?
WOKE?
at least we ALL know never to believe anything that "Did Sid" POSTS
@@trevorhart545 ..
You need to know your history mate .
I was on Concorde back in the winter 1999 with my wife - 4 kids and my in laws ( only 6 months ish before Charles de Gaulle tragedy ) and I was sat next to a beautiful lady from Barnsley .
I mentioned Arthur scargill as the only person I know from there .
She basically went nuts and said he had left a very sour taste .
Apparently his daughter now has a huge house !!
ANIMAL FARM WHEN WILL YOU SO CALLED LEFT WING UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR SO CALLED LEADERS DO TO YOU OR FOR YOU ANSWER "NOTHING"
About 6 years ago I remember reading an academic paper written in the 1990's (if my memory serves me right) by a former miner who had been a staunch supporter of the NUM and Scargill.
During his research he. learned that during the 70s the Labour government had closed more mines than the Conservatives ever had and that about 100 more mines were due to be closed by the coal board on the instructions of Labour. Maggie as the new PM ordered a review of the planned closures and as a result about 25% were to be saved from closing down. But Scargill wanted to make a name for himself which he managed to do whilst destroying an entire industry.
Wilson and Callaghan, were closing uneconomical mines without a problem from the Unions.
When Maggie did the same Scargill said a miners strike would bring down the tories.
However Maggie wrong footed him, The "THUGS" sent in by Maggie were actually sent in by Scargill to further discredit the Government.
Allegedly Scargill and his cronies amassed a fortune from the strike.
When the Men and their families were getting into debt, and starving.
Socialism is like Orwell's 1948. Everyone is equal!! But some are more "equal" than others.
Last Sentence = SUMMARY of Scargills achievement! at everyone elses expense!
revisionist bollocks mate and you got took in by it , labour pit closures offered re location , tory pit closures just destroyed communities for decades with no hope offered ,
welcome to the truth , you seem to be in need of it
@@tomfinney3416 Like I said it was an academic paper, not a press interpretation or propaganda.
Mate you either lapped up the lies and B.S. or you too are a Marxist like Scargill and he freely admits it. And like all Socialists Scargill demands that all monies be shared equally regardless of input or output as long as its not his money.
If you are not prepared to do your own research into Scargill then you are nothing more than a AS sycophant.
@@tomfinney3416 Where the f**k where Labour going to relocate over 330,000 mining employees, the USSR?
I worked at Woolley colliery in Barnsley south Yorks during the strike and lived about 200 yards from Jim Parkers house I know full well as many of us did that all the union men were looked after during the strike, i once turned up late at our union office to go picketing the notts area when i opened the door on the table were piles of money i'd say around £50,000 with three union men putting it in piles ' I said what the fuck is this they all looked shocked and said here is your £15.00 petrol money if your quick you will catch the others up I told a few of my mates when i got there and didnt go to any picket line for about 4 days then the next day i got a visit from our union secretary who asked why i wasn't on the picket line i told him my cars exhaust was hanging off he said get a price and the union would pay for it I said from that money you were all counting if so eff off.
Nottingham miners refused to strike until we held a NATIONAL BALLOT, but Scargill refused because he knew he was afraid of losing and that led to the picket lines and the downfall of the miners ,i had always said as i was on strike at the time if he had had a national ballot and the NUM voted to strike, we would have won but denying a national ballot he split the unions and all is now history.
It was illegal to strike without voting to strike otherwise you would be sacked so you had the miners voting for the right to strike as it happened.I dont know after looking at this program that scargill had any interest in a national ballot because he was just getting all this lybian and russian money for himself and his board members whilst saying it was for the cause of strife of miners.Scargill was a corrupt scumbag.
I dont trust unions. We had one when I worked in a university, 5 years I worked there, we got sold out by the union everytime. I dknt pay for them anymore.
you were the scabs
@@probablecausetocheckhard-drive What a pathetic and childish thing to say. Perhaps if Scargill didn;t want his "orders" being disobeyed he should have called a ballot.
@@CA-ee1et truth hurts
I hope none of the miners see this... They will be gutted that the person they trusted and relied on would shit on them like that
He like most was an ass hole so why be so surprised ????????????
What did they expect ?
Never trust a person with hair like that .
I hope every damn miner sees this and the entire trade unionist see this too
They know what a snake scargill turned out to be. He kept them on strike to line his own pockets which ultimately lead to the mines closing far sooner than they would have. Awful man. I’m surprised nobody has done him in by now but I imagine he hides away from the public.
@@tonymorph3672 he’s got to be dead surely ?
He looked 70 odd back in the 80s
I loved this program so thanks for the channel
I heard this comment many many years ago " when the strike started Scargill had a big union and a small house at the end of it he had a big house and a small union" say's it all really...🤣😂🤣😂
Rubbish.
@@johnhigham5721 What's rubbish about it? That crooked a**hole used the miners, the industry was destroyed but Scargill has a lovely flat in the Barbican.
if you listen to tittle - tattle that's what you end up with - nonsense - you have no idea whether that's true or not.
He never said whether it was true or not.he just said he heard the comment years ago..he cant prove its true and id guess you cant prove its not.@@robertdavidson8028
What an absolute disgrace !! So sad. Corruption everywhere !!
nothing new with these so called left wing pricks just look at the labour front bench today as we speak that will tell you everything you need to know !!
Come to South Africa and you will see what corruption really is.
Go read "The Enemy Within".
At the time it was reported that Arthur Scargill embezzled money from the NUM. However, later we found out that this was not true and it turned out the intellegince services put money in his account and then sent the bank statement to the papers. Absolute disgrace that the state done this to one of our own citizens.
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What a surprise Scargill conning the miners!
I always admired Arthur Scargil. He's nothing but a crook an thief
Nope, Roger Cook was duped by a crook Roger Windsor (2:56) who had to pay back £29,000 he stole to pay his mortgages. The editor of the Daily Mirror (who worked on this story with Cook) Roy Greenslade apologised to Scargill over this story in 2002 and in the same year Roger Windsor was ordered to pay £250,000 in restitution and costs by a French court. Roger Cook was fooled by the real thief.
It was said of Scargill that at the beginning of the strike he had a big union and a small house, but by the end he had a small union and a big house.
Why would a union need a Swiss bank account, unless they were hiding something
They WERE hiding something. They were hiding their assets which had been seized by the government sequestrators for the crime of daring to support their striking members.
He didn't have a Swiss bank account. The Miners' Union had to set up such an account to protect the money that was to pay the striking miners from being sequestered.
Guilty , Scargill was stuffing his face while the miners starved ! He was living in a NUM in central London for free till 2010 . Absolutely disgraceful man .
Allegations made in this programme were proven to be fictitious and untrue. People who made the allegations apologised thereafter. A MI5 sting project as part of their “Get Scargill” campaign. Arthur Scargill, “Britain’s greatest trades union leader”, Tony Benn.
Scargill a clever man, and apparently a thief and a liar, would have made a good politician in those respects, but perhaps wouldn't have ended up quite as rich! How he ever he got away with it remains a mystery.
UNION & TUC were also in on the scam. That is how you get away with it "spreading" the money around. Today in the USA it is now called the Demoncrat Party!
Derek Hatton too.
Machavellian
Take them all to court and make them pay it back to what miners are left
Cannot Do without loads of money AND a change in the Law
I think "someone" would have to take "them" to court first and prove it - if it could be, and were then proved to be correct. That's how the law works mostly (unless you're Julian Assange or someone like that {i.e. a journalist that embarrasses a government by telling the truth}) or is supposed to work anyway.
Some time ago, in '83 I think, I was driving through Manchester in the early hours 4am, I had local radio on, they played a recorded interview with Scargill.
Long before anyone heard of Paxman, Scargill was asked a question and went on one of his rants, the question was repeated and he went on another rant, question repeated again, he started another rant then stopped and said "I've already answered that" Interviewer said "No you haven't, I've asked you but you didn''t answer the question"
Scargill completely lost it and went mental, he made all sorts of threats, this was to be the man's last day in radio, he would never work in any media again etc, etc. I thought that should have been repeated every hour on every radio station to let those who didn't know already what a shit he was, but he must have had some veto on the broadcast, shame.
Completely inaccurate misrepresentation of the interview.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view!"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment?"
HAHA
@@David.L291 HE'S NO RAT HE'S SIBERIAN HAMSTER
MAN IN SHOP MAKE SPECIAL PRICE !
Seriously...
My Late Mother always said that Scargill, whenever we saw him on tv, was using the Miners for his own benefit, the comments here and Cooks documentary proved that point.
Prison Officers based in Limerick Prison, Ireland made a donation to the striking Miners.
Donated to Scargills pockets you mean?
Get them in court and pay the miners back
The world does not work like that . He is the one that gets away with it and there are plenty more like him . No loss to him. Trump seems to be the guy that gets away with blue murder too.
Scargill was a cunning piece of work hateful to the core
Absolutely. Stalinist filth.
I find this fascinating. I am currently writing a crime thriller partly set during the miners' strike.
Some of the worst crimes took place at the Daily Mirror and ITV headquarters. This, for instance, was a packet of lies and later quietly retracted.
Thatcher summed it up when she said ‘there is no point in feeding the chickens if they’re not laying eggs!’
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Margaret Thatcher was one of the greatest prime ministers this country ever had. She stood up against the *Cold Cold Cold Packed Faced Left* which are now destroying our once great great country.
You can read the minutes of the last ever NUM meeting online -which is surreal for someone that grew up in the 1970s.
As an ex miner I have a question.
Why did the NUM have a Swiss bank account in Geneva ?
Looks like this was officially backed probably for the outcome they wanted. Very Savillesk.
Weirdly Arthur Scargill turned up at our college common room one day during the strike. It was a small room, no announcement till the day itself, no obvious supporters or sympathisers in the room. It was a strange, casual thing.
I wonder how many of those regret Scargill being leader!!
What happened to the miners was ordained regardless of who led them, as those who instead followed Neil Greatrex and his "Union of Democratic Mineworkers" and were betrayed by their benefactor Thatcher discovered to their cost.
I wonder how many people regretted voting for the Tories.
@@8888-w1l not me. Tories all the way!!!
The unions committed suicide, as someone who was there and a union member (because where I worked was a “closed shop”, I saw first hand the union leaders trying to take over the government. In the seventies it was constant strikes and insane inflation as the bully boys tried to show how strong they were, of course constantly striking, pushing up prices, and making the goods they produced ever more expensive and opening the door to foreign imports. Well done boys, congratulations, you were so bloody clever weren’t you? They worshipped scargill like trump followers.
@freebeerfordworkers So true, I got an HGV license and my dad helped get me a truck driving job there. I was a skilled car bodyshop painter at the time but I actually quadrupled my wages so I was very happy with things, then the union bully boys announced that we were striking for more money, I was used to talking to my boss if I felt I was worth more money and we discussed I man to man, I couldn’t let myself become a tool of the TGWU so I told them that I was very happy thank you and I wouldn’t be joining in. As it was the strike was called off but I was shunned by many of my colleagues.
Just shows when employees go on strike everyone loses out except the unions.
Not Mr Cook's finest moment. Everything in this episode was proven to be lies.
This was a crook who played the people who believed and trusted him. Families were ripped apart and some for life. A disgusting individual.
A sham . Underneath his working class hero image and socialist cloak was a common conman Nowadays they call it champagne and smoked salmon socialists .
Thatcher laid the ground work to destroy the unions and Scargill did the rest . 'Union Swiss bank account' ? It gets better and better!
He said he stood with tge miners and yet ripped them right off from what this evidence shows
What a disgrace Scargill is. Even without this, he had a tragic impact on the mining industry and the men and regions affected. Sadly, it seems as though corruption happens across the piece. from the top to the bottom.
I like how the Cook Report 1990 intro is EXACTLY how Chris Morris would do it if he were satirising a 1990s "consumer detective" show.
Speak Your Brains!
Gonna post a link to Dispatches tearing this program apart?
Family members were miners, I've heard more than a couple of accounts of union reps on the picket lines with big wads of cash and registers to give out to those picketing. The idea was, you gave your name, they ticked you off and you got your money for being there. You can probably guess what happened the union reps were ticking off the names of people that weren't there and then pocketing the cash themselves. Money is always the common denominator regardless of which side of the political fence you sit on.
Now you know why he called a miners strike in the hotest summer in 40 years. Just to line his own pocket.. a he had a grace a favour flat in london. Which when the union collapsed he refused to give up. A it ended in a court case
Think you'll find the hottest summer was 1977
@@moorcl I think you’ll find it was 76 😳😳
Remember as a young boy when ever Scargill appeared on TV, he would always say, “He’s here, King Arthur” He hated the man even though he was an ex miner himself.
24:25 Scargill's blink rate was very rapid - that's often the sign sign of a liar, or at least someone who is hiding something.
There was a sticker on my parents kitchen wall stating in the 80s:
"I won't let Scargill cut off my Ballots!"
first person to get to Scargill would be a hero
Watching this made me think of Derek Hatton for some reason !!
Hatton was as honest as the day is long, all 5 minutes of it. Correction, not even 1 minute of it.
😂😂 'Degsy stole my Rolex'...
The labour party wanted to close the mines before the tories but bottled it.
The chief of Hypocrites, Scargill. Even now he should be arrested for this and prosecuted.
Check the real story. The only man shown to have stolen money to pay his mortgage was Roger Windsor (2:56) Roger's star witness. In total Roger Windsor was ordered by a French Court to pay a total of £250,000 in restitution and costs.
You will never convince a Yorkshire miner that Scargill is a wrong-en.
Bah, bah bah
I was a Yorkshire Miner and like many outside his tight circle , I did not think much of him.
Whether he was a crook or not , I can`t say.
I can say he was a fanatic, a bloody fool and along with Thatcher has a big responsibility for the ruination of the coal industry.
Scargill never won a strike ,Gormley ,his predecessor, never lost one and Scargill had the neck to criticise Gormley.
This was about the time the megalomaniac Arthur declared himself President for life of the NUM ,finished up with the NUM taking him to court.
Scargill did not give a toss about miners, he wanted fame and fortune .
Growing up in the 70’s listening to strikes and people slagging off governments WHATS the outcome ?
People don’t use coal or mine it like the pre 80’s ,British Leyland is extinct so them strikers got nowhere.
I mean what was the point like tell me 🤣
Maggie, the best PM since Churchill. All the ones since can't show her a candle.
Churchill,one of history’s greatest mass murderers.
Why? ....was she a washed up bankrupt,drunk employed by bankers in the US too? 🤔
Definitely. As time has gone on and her great legacy can be revised. Margaret Thatcher is without a doubt one of the greatest prime ministers this country has ever had. She stood up against the *Cold Cold Cold Packed Faced Left* who are now destroying this once great great country.
@@sanchoodell6789 bollocks
@@peterlpool1387 Why thank you for your word(s) of wisdom!
Anyone else would of been investigated if they had done what he did.
He was investigated but the report said it was all fiction. The only person who ever faced a court was Roger Windsor (2:56) who was Roger Cook's star witness. In 1994 a French court (because he stole the money in France)found he stole £29,000 on the money and used it to pay his mortgage off and he ended up having to pay £250,000 in costs as well. Windsor was also paid £50,000 by The Daily Mirror for this story. In 2002 the then editor of the Daily Mirror apologised to Scargill and admitted it was a mistake and that they paper had been conned. It appears Roger Cook is not able to admit his error.
I had no idea Arthur Scargill was a theiving gangster.
Maggie did
Common knowledge mate
He was thievin’ b@stad lol.
@@kevinwood5005 She was probably one too, selling off state owned companies to her mates for backhanders.
@@RoyChadwick51 I was just a kid at the time.
Scargill did more for Thatcher than any tory.
Money definitely corrupts, both then and now.
Correction, the love of money corrupts.
Born a Collier
Die a Collier
NUM and Proud.
Fought from day 1. March 1984. Orgreave & the full monty. Some off us lived it, saw it, heard it, believe the media....giraffe time.
Remember 1984 when you receive your energy bill's this winter.
Think the lefty Green vote is more relevant now than anything that happened nearly forty years ago. They are the group that forced the coal fired power stations into closure.
Wasn't there a rumour going around. That scargills right hand man was M. I. 5...
Gmb union came to our college and we said what about scargill,? And they went all quite and changed the subject
Mick Lynch where did all the money go?
Man of the people 100k plus a year Mick So funny Another arthur tosser who fools the fools
Scargill started the strike with a small house and a big union. He finished the strike with a big house and a small union. Plainly this man was a crook who took the hardworking miners for fools.
These corrupt union officials robbed the miners and laughed all the way. With these type of people running the union the strike was doomed to fail. Scargill consorted with Libya a regime based on terror. Scargill’s regime was based on keeping men working underground in dirty dangerous conditions while he creamed off huge profits for himself. You can always tell when Scargill is lying …….his lips move …
Did he not receive a jaguar from British Leyland?
RMT are only doing 2 day strikes ..if they did 3 day strikes , they would have to pay members hardship funds ....unions dont like paying out to members .
Never forget when I lived on an estate in knottingley it was full of firemen and miners and the firemen always backed the miners but told them never to trust Arthur scargill!
I am 56 l lived in a coal mine town in the 80 in Scotland not a good time 😢
I’m from further north than the mines in Scotland and I’m 46. I remember watching the strikes on tv but I didn’t learn until much later that we had miners here in Scotland. I remember Ravenscraig being closed and other industries being shafted. Bad craic back then and I feel terrible that hardworking folk went through so much strife while politicians could afford to drag out negotiations and decide to close shipyards, factories and mines without giving 2 phucks about the people it affected. I grew up in a small fishing village and it died on it’s arse long ago. At least we have the NHS and the Ministry of Defence up here, they’re the two biggest employers.
Gartcosh ?
Anyone ever looked under that comb-over from hell? You could stash a tidy sum in there. Just sayin'.
Bullshit to divide the hard of thinking.
@@amadeusquadeer7203 What?
looks like the miners were being shafted from every direction.
Scargill lived like a king yet the miners got close to nothing. I’d have been breaking the strike practically every day if I’d been a miner at that time. Why a solid strike anyway? Why not just strike a couple of days a week? Thank God the union caved in in the end. It doesn’t bear thinking about if the government had lost.
Tosser. You know nothing, it is obvious! The gov said no massive pit closures, what happened dipstick?
I Remember this bloody big mouth on the tv news, Never knew who he really was but he used to really annoy me and so yet he was another twat of a union then just like the pillicks now on the railway causing the never ending ridiculous strikes and come 20 to 30+ years from now most will be gone or dead and there'll probably be some other sort of trains and not so many drivers etc and then what would've be achieved? Just like the minors nothing in the long run just proves that it speeds up the changes in technology
No he did not. Believe the propaganda if you wish. You are a class traitor
@@amadeusquadeer7203 “A class traitor”! Pfff! Don’t talk utter bull💩! Do you really expect everyone of working class status to vote for the looney labour party? Not a chance!
Labour, not the answer.
Did you check his pension fund ? Just a thought.....
I suggest people read the enemy within then you will read the real facts
I Have Been Asking The Question About The Soviet £.3.00.00.00 Milllion Pounds From Squeezed Out Of The Under Paid And Overworked Soviet Miner's, What Happen To The Money, £.3. Million Pounds,!!!??????? No Wonder Scargill Was Able To Buy Two Flats In The London Barbican Centre, At At Least £.4-to- 6.5.00.00 Thousands Pounds Each, And Pay Off His Own Mortgage In Yorkshire 7--to--10 Week's After The Miner's Strike, A Dirty Big House, 6, Bedrooms Detached House, ??????? £1500.00 Thousands Pound House,!!!!!!!!,.??????? Scargill Was A Communist Markist Crook, !!!!!!! Who Thought He Could Do What Joe Gormley Did To That Spineless Useless Tory Git Heath In 1974, The Three Day Week,!!!!! Power Cuts Every Day, !!!!! I Very Well Remember,!!!!! Scargill A Communist Git,!!!! And A Thief' 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳,
They really were a thick lot the miners
Right Sir, that seems to be in order. 🤣😅😭 Lmfao
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Thanks for the upload.
Let's hope the Russian loving RMT today are not doing anything similar to the NUM
Wouldn’t mind a bit of Arthur’s socialism,do as we say not as we do springs to mind!
Socialism. Everyone is equal but some, are note equal than others. There will always be someone at the top of the pile. Scargill fooled so many.
Arthur Scarkill continued to get paid whilst miners didn’t he also had low mortgage rate!
Anybody who is surprised by this is a simpleton.
It happens at every level.
What did Libya get in exchange ?
This was the beginning of the end of all significant Unions in G/ Britain 🇬🇧 😢 now we have no contract employment, no guaranteed hours, minimum wage contracts, and no security and we have Thatcher to thank
So mrs scargill turn up for the money meeting....sound right ,
Well why didn't they say anything about this to the police make me wonder if they was in on it ??
Another crook walks away free as a bird.
Really interesting - but excuse my ignorance - why would Libya (under Ghadaffi) send solidarity payments to the miners in England?
thanks
Same reason as why Russia sent aid. To destabilise the country. They couldn't care less about British miners, even when striking they were better off than the average Russian or Libian
Anygodwilldo, because agadaffi, like Scargill were bankrolled by the Russians to destabilise no britain
Thinking the very same. Shame no-one has answered. Was it not Libyans that were responsible for the locharbie bombing....
@@Anygodwilldo Andy, if only scum Scsrgill would tell the truth 'eh+
My grandad used to be his Best friend earlier on he died in 81 , major Money, my dad took a Luger off me that I took out of my grandmas draw when I was young in Barnsley, I thank my family for working with coal
I wonder what he would think of George Orwell book Today
Apparently power to the proletariat TH-cam is into George Orwell Try asking him.
He’s still alive. Why isn’t he in prison?
Alan Walker
That's What I'd Like To Know,!!!????????? Perhaps A Gutless Spineless Useless Tory Bunch Of Twits,???????, And The Croupption Of The Poxey So-called Labour Party,!!!!!?????,
Because all the allergations have been disproved
@@moorcl HA HA More like his paid the old bill and courts off like starmer has done How easily your type are fooled
@@millwallholdings how easily my type are are fooled......really, and YOU think the state could be bought off by Scargill🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣 and my type are easily fooled🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@moorcl Yeah cos putting a load of silly kids faces makes you right ouch so must be true 😆😂🙂😁😃😀😀😀😀😀😄😆😥😓🧐😕😕 i win
What a massive gangster. Fortune must have went on his wonderful hairdo!!!
Ask Keir Starmer if he knew anything about it whilst at the C P S
Did Scargill copy Trump's hairstyle, or did Donald copy Arthur's?
Why hasnt Scargill been taken to court??
Roger Cook climbed out of the same cesspit of scargill, just to add I was on strike from March the 5th 1984 to March the 5th 1985 through no choice of my own, hence why I have a huge dislike for the unions and the mainstream media.
You’d have thought he’d get himself a top wig
look at the size of those £20 notes
Margaret Thatcher did a wonderful job
Whilst I am in no way defending Arthur Scargill, nor whatever he was guilty of, we should remember that his documentary is not the last word on these allegations and counter-positions. The Wikipedia on AS gives a decent overview of that time and what was accused etc., and there have been many articles and books since then that makes what is here less cut'n'dried. I don't blame Roger Cook, and I'm not suggesting a stitch up by him - I think the integrity of his body of work stands for itself - but he only had the narrative presented to him at the time, and not perhaps the full picture.
It was a hit job. It's hilarious to read some of the comments.
Wiki is written by "normal people" you really can not rely on it as a source for anything. I have no idea if it'
s true or not but wonder why these guys would lie.
@@neilmcintosh6638 I obviously understand Wiki's limitations, and so was only using it to illustrate my point about the definitiveness of this documentary, when there was clearly much disputed in what was asserted here in entirely one direction. And I say that as someone with very clear memories of the strike, and who worked on the soup kitchens and fund raised for the miners and their families, but I had no great admiration for Scargill at the time, so I have no reason to jump to defend him personally. The fact that I disliked/ distrusted his motives him makes it intuitive to have my prejudices confirmed by this. However, the propaganda machine at the time, and for a number of years after always made me suspicious that there was a strong agenda to rubbish the integrity of the strike and any of those closely involved with it.
@@neilmcintosh6638 The wiki pages have footnotes to sourced articles and books. It was a smear against the union and against Scargill. (And I'm not a fan of the bloke.) Funny how an old anti-union hit job gets uploaded to TH-cam in the same period when unions are fighting back against a cost of living crisis that is hurting millions of ordinary working class people. Just a coincidence, no doubt.
No. The evidence is there. Mortgages being cleared, that in itself is enough.
More fools them for following him
Where’s scargill now
Those fellas lost.jobs communitys destroyed,,but treachery still out to blacken the name of this struggle,, don't know much about it,, but the Union here saved my job in Harland and Wolff,,by negotiation with new buyers ,,, strength in unity for the small man ,,☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️