Would you mind explaining what is meant by the second half of the Jung quote? I think I understand it but I want to make sure. Thanks. Oh, and I hope you had a good holiday!
Sure thing SleepyLee. And thank you... it ended with what I think was a bout of COVID and I'm now shaking it off after ten days. It was a great opportunity for self-reflection and purging what needed to be purged. The quote by Jung for reference is: “The aim of individuation is nothing less than to divest the self of the false wrappings of the persona on the one hand, and of the suggestive power of primordial images on the other.” 'Primordial images' is referring to the archetypes of the collective unconscious. The first part is effectively to free yourself from persona-shadow dynamics. The second is about your relationship to archetypes. Archetypes can be thought of as fundamental patterns or structures that exist as potentials in the objective psyche, manifesting through symbols, behaviours, and experiences when activated by psychic energy. Jung talked about a handful including the shadow, mother, father, Self, trickster, hero. There is no universally agreed upon list of archetypes, but I think a case can be made for the major arcana of the tarot. The shadow, too, is an archetype, as well as having a significant personal component. Archetypes can be immensely powerful, alluring and easily identified with. There can be the risk of both possession and inflation, which can be thought of as being owned/controlled by and believing you own/control the archetype respectively. Becoming obsessed with or possessed by a particular archetype can feel like an easy and empowering 'out,' especially when real life becomes challenging and the ego lacks the strength and/or confidence to assimilate it. But the journey of becoming yourself requires that tension and conflict are faced down and assimilated, and the self in relation to the archetypes can be established. So Jung here is referring to the need to stand as an individual, in relationship to these universal forces but not overpowered by or identifying with them. Let me know if that makes sense or if anything needs clarifying. I'm also planning to release some more content on the archetypes over the next couple of months.
@@makeitconscious Ok, yes, this is what I thought it meant. Thank you for answering that. I know they say there's nothing to it but Vicks Vapor rub always helps me when I put it on the bottom of my feet before bedtime, when I am sick. I'm glad to hear you are feeling better, covid is no fun!
Would you mind explaining what is meant by the second half of the Jung quote? I think I understand it but I want to make sure. Thanks. Oh, and I hope you had a good holiday!
Sure thing SleepyLee. And thank you... it ended with what I think was a bout of COVID and I'm now shaking it off after ten days. It was a great opportunity for self-reflection and purging what needed to be purged.
The quote by Jung for reference is:
“The aim of individuation is nothing less than to divest the self of the false wrappings of the persona on the one hand, and of the suggestive power of primordial images on the other.”
'Primordial images' is referring to the archetypes of the collective unconscious.
The first part is effectively to free yourself from persona-shadow dynamics.
The second is about your relationship to archetypes. Archetypes can be thought of as fundamental patterns or structures that exist as potentials in the objective psyche, manifesting through symbols, behaviours, and experiences when activated by psychic energy. Jung talked about a handful including the shadow, mother, father, Self, trickster, hero. There is no universally agreed upon list of archetypes, but I think a case can be made for the major arcana of the tarot. The shadow, too, is an archetype, as well as having a significant personal component.
Archetypes can be immensely powerful, alluring and easily identified with. There can be the risk of both possession and inflation, which can be thought of as being owned/controlled by and believing you own/control the archetype respectively.
Becoming obsessed with or possessed by a particular archetype can feel like an easy and empowering 'out,' especially when real life becomes challenging and the ego lacks the strength and/or confidence to assimilate it. But the journey of becoming yourself requires that tension and conflict are faced down and assimilated, and the self in relation to the archetypes can be established.
So Jung here is referring to the need to stand as an individual, in relationship to these universal forces but not overpowered by or identifying with them.
Let me know if that makes sense or if anything needs clarifying. I'm also planning to release some more content on the archetypes over the next couple of months.
@@makeitconscious Ok, yes, this is what I thought it meant. Thank you for answering that.
I know they say there's nothing to it but Vicks Vapor rub always helps me when I put it on the bottom of my feet before bedtime, when I am sick. I'm glad to hear you are feeling better, covid is no fun!