Batman Forever Unseen 1 - the deleted scenes (with music and sfx)

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  • @crazyrabbits
    @crazyrabbits หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    5:12 -- I definitely wish they'd kept the Kenneth Frequency scene in; Val's expressions are priceless. The way Bruce almost has this dismissive, smirking expression when Kenneth talks about "every nutcase" coming to Gotham with a grudge to settle against Batman, only to start staring intently when the impact of the anchor's words seep in and Bruce realizes how bad the escalation has become, is quite a powerful scene.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, it's a good scene. I know the Kenneth Frequency actor is a bit over the top but it's a good showcase for Val.

    • @propagatrix
      @propagatrix 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@1995BatmanThat actor’s my husband, Merle Kessler. :)

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Amazing. Thank you for letting me know. I always wondered who the actor was as they aren't credited. I see from his imdb page he worked as a dialogue consultant on Phone Booth too.

  • @daytonsimpson9963
    @daytonsimpson9963 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Joel was actually sitting there writing some good scenes that dealt with introspection and repressed trauma, then the studio executives just came in and were "NO! STOP THAT. WE NEED THIS TO BE CAMPY AND TO SELL TOYS!!"

  • @Tenshihan-Quinn
    @Tenshihan-Quinn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    This was my personal favourite version of Alfred, a proper British gentleman, who had the combined military background of a field-agent & field-medic, yet possessed the kind demeanor of a Saint. Rest in Peace dear Sir Michael Gough. Thank you for doing it right.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yep, I like Caine, Irons and Pertwee but there's something special about Gough' s stiff upper lipped classic butler. I love that (especially in Forever and B&R) he's there as a sounding board for Bruce and Dick. Guiding them through their careers as vigilantes.

    • @LivermoreFilm
      @LivermoreFilm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      well said !!!

    • @another.brazilian
      @another.brazilian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here. I really enjoyed how they explored the emotional surrogate father/son relationship between him and Bruce in Batman and Robin.

  • @avace917
    @avace917 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Most of this looks WAY better than any scenes in the theatrical release

    • @hyperboreen4854
      @hyperboreen4854 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No.

    • @avace917
      @avace917 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@hyperboreen4854 it's an opinion. Have a nice day

    • @Tazio25
      @Tazio25 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I wouldn't say that. But Bruce standing in front of giant bat rising his arms looks great.

    • @avace917
      @avace917 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tazio25 well we see it differently I guess. You DO REALIZE that the word better is an opinion, right?

  • @aidanlynn
    @aidanlynn ปีที่แล้ว +276

    Val Kilmer is really underrated, especially as Bruce Wayne.

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      I think he has been the best live action movie Bruce Wayne. If only he had a better script and a director.

    • @ThibautKurt23
      @ThibautKurt23 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Aivottajagood to read I am not the only one thinking this

    • @JiMMY-my1ds
      @JiMMY-my1ds 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No he is not. He was garbage. As Batman and Bruce Wayne. Casting of that movie was absolutely awful

    • @floydclaptonblues2
      @floydclaptonblues2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He was the best combo

    • @businesswalks8301
      @businesswalks8301 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Aivottaja lol stop it. Keaton has been and will always be the best batman and by association bruce

  • @narcolepticsleepsman
    @narcolepticsleepsman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Need a Director's Cut of this movie to honor the Director and to the cast and crew of Batman Forever

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think that Warner Bros knows by now that there’s still an audience for the film. Let’s just hope that the original film elements still exist.

  • @Names_buck
    @Names_buck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Batman Forever would’ve greatly benefited from some of these scenes

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, check out the Virtual Workprint fan edit if you get a chance to see them spliced back into the film.

  • @7OnAtuesday
    @7OnAtuesday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "You're a killer too, and you know it" I wished they kept it in. It makes a lot of scence considering before he was just about revenge

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah it's shame that line got cut. I like that Two Face of all people is questioning Batman's moral compass.

    • @dbog5214
      @dbog5214 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah kinda reminds the joker - batman dynamic in tdk, pretty cool.

    • @mainstreetsaint36
      @mainstreetsaint36 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't let the "Batman don't kill crowd" hear that, might get them upset.

  • @mmario58s
    @mmario58s 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Some of these scenes could have made this film much better! Kilmer is a very underrated Batman!

  • @knightwarrioranimations9656
    @knightwarrioranimations9656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +270

    Somebody should do a whole fan edit of Batman Forever adding these scenes in the movie.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      It already exists. Look up Batman Forever Virtual Workprint.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@integrity101 It follows the original script - meeting Nygma before the bank heist - and adds as much as possible back in. Don't think it cuts anything out. Even the silly bits.

    • @integrity101
      @integrity101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1995Batman
      Ok awesome. Any idea where a link is?

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@integrity101 First result on google search for "Batman Forever Virtual Workprint"

    • @integrity101
      @integrity101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1995Batman
      Thank you.

  • @elcarajo66
    @elcarajo66 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Val Kilmer surprisingly turned out to be my favorite movie Batman, and the script actually has good moments, despite the villains being too campy.

  • @D00R
    @D00R ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Val Kilmer thought he was in a different movie and after he saw Batman Forever he never came back.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I always like that about Batman Forever. The Val and Chris bits are really serious. The Tommy and Jim stuff is really silly. The film has two tones.

    • @alejolion2548
      @alejolion2548 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@1995Batman Yeh, but in the comics it is too similar, so you can say that as an adaptation everything is very well represented.

  • @cainbutler6291
    @cainbutler6291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    It’s amazing what Joker has done to Bruce leading into this film Batman Forever. Killing his parents unleashed a lot of hidden insecurities and trauma within Bruce. A lot has happened since Batman 1989 & Batman Returns came to their conclusions.

    • @SuperHns
      @SuperHns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      agreed.

    • @anthonygarcia8749
      @anthonygarcia8749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Burton's films doesn't understand Batman like this movie lol and Kilmer is way better than Keaton lol.

    • @KenMasters.
      @KenMasters. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Imagine a Schumacher-verse Joker,
      he would look exactly like how he did in the Onstar Commercial.

    • @jeal994
      @jeal994 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Zach snyder justice league inspired from one of this deleted scene when two face escape from arkham asylum

    • @Agent.Wadsworth
      @Agent.Wadsworth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Joe Chill killed Thomas/Martha Wayne.

  • @judd5936
    @judd5936 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    It’s a shame the scenes were omitted. I feel that if they were included, it would’ve balanced out the campiness of the villains performances, and added a lot of depth to Kilmer’s portrayal of Wayne/Batman

  • @DanielYahuahYahushaTorah
    @DanielYahuahYahushaTorah 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    These scenes would add a lot more psychological depth too this movie and improve it. Makes you wonder if they had even more to shoot.

  • @loganwaldron7108
    @loganwaldron7108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Val Kilmer hell of a Batman

  • @riquelmedesousa5848
    @riquelmedesousa5848 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    the dialogue of bruce and alfred is so good,alfred telling bruce to try live a normal life,should be in the movie,and michael gough and val just amazing

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Val and Michael were great together. As good as the Bruce Alfred stuff was in Batman & Robin, it would have been even better with those two.

    • @riquelmedesousa5848
      @riquelmedesousa5848 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@1995Batman yep,for me the best things from the schumacher movies was that "father and son" relationship that bruce and alfred was most in batman & robin

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Michael Gough was amazing in every single Batman movie he was in. Even in the otherwise atrocious Batman & Robin.

  • @Iconhulk
    @Iconhulk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Val Kilmer is great Bruce/Batman. He picked up where Keaton left off and RAN WITH IT!
    Sad the script would get more cartoonish and Kilmer would walk away..

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yep I really enjoyed his take on Bruce and Batman.

    • @Iconhulk
      @Iconhulk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Think of it as a younger Bruce by 8-12 years or so. Kilmer is 8 years younger than Keaton. But Kilmer sure makes for a young Bruce..

    • @barcabocalda2583
      @barcabocalda2583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I always believed the same could have been with George Clooney

    • @SuperHns
      @SuperHns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He is a great Bruce Wayne, I say he is the best Bruce Wayne.

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      He did a great job.. Sadly according to Schumacher Val was a total nightmare on set and they nearly came to blows.. This was common in the days of Val's younger career..

  • @ILLRICARDO
    @ILLRICARDO 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Val Kilmer looked amazing in his prime!!!

  • @dbreiden83080
    @dbreiden83080 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Definitely interesting that Schumacher was pursuing the idea of escalation with Batman and the prospective villains long before Nolan did.. The idea that a masked crime fighter would bring in an even more dangerous level of criminal wanting to challenge him or heighten the stakes..

  • @justinsmith4941
    @justinsmith4941 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Michael Gough was the quintessential alfred to series and fond memories of the ideal butler everyone wishes they have

  • @X2Magneto
    @X2Magneto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Scene 2 (Two Face Confrontation) feels like a call back to previous films and establishes a nice arch through line.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Yeah the Production Draft by Akiva Goldsman references Jack Napier and Selina Kyle. I think the intention was to link to the Burton movies much more originally.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@1995Batman I wish that they had left those references in the finished film.

    • @ilcanalediwilly
      @ilcanalediwilly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why?

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ilcanalediwillyas a way of reminding us of what had previously happened.

    • @rudevoices9204
      @rudevoices9204 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@darthkurlandThe most direct reference is Chase Meridian referencing Catwoman's vinyl outfit and whip when trying to get with Batman

  • @dmsturgeon8762
    @dmsturgeon8762 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Michael Gough was a brilliant actor, powerful and heartfelt,without chewing up the scenery, he carried himself with nobility and sincerity in every scene, in every movie that I have ever seen him in. As alfred, he truly demonstrated a quiet, stalwart confident father figure, who was never afraid to call bruce out on his b.s.,with just the right amount of snarkiness. Of course this doesn't detract from other great actors that have portrayed alfred; such as sean pertwee(gotham), epfhram zimbalist(batman animated series,justice league), and michael caine (batman begins,dark knight, dark knight rises) they each carried the character very well, which goes to show how great the character really is, however, michael gough seemed to bring a level of humanity that showed a man who struggled and in a way failed to bring peace and hope to Bruce's torn soul.

  • @blkmanbat
    @blkmanbat ปีที่แล้ว +29

    One day we will be able to see 170 minute final cut. I believe it will happen. Hopefully they can mix the soundtrack and the special effects well. Thank you for loading this video.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yep, hoping this video becomes obsolete soon.

    • @mainstreetsaint36
      @mainstreetsaint36 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Until they give us the official version, this will have to suffice.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Warner Bros did confirm that the extended version exists in their vaults.

  • @comebackqing8452
    @comebackqing8452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    It's like some of these are from a completely different movie that I would have much preferred to watch over what we got. Val Kilmer could have been the best Batman.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah, I feel like Batman Forever does have two distinct tones - one serious, one comedy. I kinda of like that about the film though, that it's constantly jumping back and forth between the two tones. It keeps the film fresh.

    • @jeremybstudentpilot5315
      @jeremybstudentpilot5315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@1995Batman Batman forever is the best Batman movie. People loved it back then. They just forgot.

    • @jjohnson4013
      @jjohnson4013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If wb wouldent have gotten to much invold in this movie Batman Forever would have been a better movie

  • @Yugo_Reyes
    @Yugo_Reyes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Bruce saying Batman is his Enemy needed to be in the FILM. That is a great scene with Alfred and Bruce being told the truth. Great scene, would have been great in the film.

  • @ORLANDOARIASORLANDO
    @ORLANDOARIASORLANDO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Batman Forever would have been great if they had left this 151-minute version as part of the final product for display in theatres.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Eh, I think Batman Forever IS great. Some of these scenes are good but stuff gets cut for a reason. The pacing of a movie us really important.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@1995Batman I still think that Joel Schumacher’s extended cut should be shown to the fans. If nothing else, as a tribute to Joel.

    • @marianoyuba3736
      @marianoyuba3736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@1995Batman Yeah but much of this isn't your typical redundant or off-key scene that you cut for time. The only one that seems ridiculous is the one about the parlor (and even that fills in some plot holes), but the scenes exploring Bruce's trauma and his desire to quit being Batman, and his finding the truth about his parents' deaths, are basically the point of the film: they should NOT have been excised and were a suit plot to lighten up the film and sell more toys, no artistic reason whatsoever. Same thing for the Two-Face opening, cutting it because it is too scary...well, this IS Batman, it IS going to be dark. Damn shame. Hope some day the real cut will see the light of day. Superman 2's did!

    • @ivanagustinortiz5237
      @ivanagustinortiz5237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@darthkurland Like the Donner Cut of Superman 2, something for the fans to appreciate that can give WB more money, win/win.

    • @SuperHns
      @SuperHns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@1995Batman The original is great yes, but these scenes would have made it so much better.

  • @sharpshooter07
    @sharpshooter07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Can you imagine Michael Gough posing the retirement question to Keaton in a third film? How fascinating would that be?

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah I love Val but it is a shame Keaton left. He and Gough had great chemistry.

    • @SuperHns
      @SuperHns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@1995Batman Val is a better Bruce Wayne by miles, Keaton was having too much fun, while Bruce Wayne is a VERY socially akward > traumatized person. Val nailed that.

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They gave Val far more character as Bruce Wayne in this movie. He made it his own. And his Batman is pretty great too

    • @aedaed3605
      @aedaed3605 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      tbf Bob Kane thought Val was the best Batman he's ever seen for that time

  • @justinhenderson5813
    @justinhenderson5813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Val Kilmer did a great job for the role of Batman/ Bruce Wayne

    • @adamantium4797
      @adamantium4797 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Michael Keaton left some pretty big Bat-Boots to fill, but it looks like Val was up for the challenge.

  • @Gojiragon
    @Gojiragon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That opening scene would have been much better, but NOOOO we had to have a "commercial tie-in scene" for the kids. Y'know, the film that has a crap ton of Chase lusting over Batman.

  • @optimascrime5235
    @optimascrime5235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    If WB want to realese another cut I'd love to see Joel Schumacher's full version of Batman Forever because from what I heard it's way better than the original one we got😏🤔

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Even if it's not better I'd still love to see what the original cut looked like.

    • @optimascrime5235
      @optimascrime5235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@1995Batman Agreed

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@optimascrime5235 Have a look at my other video about what's in the Schumacher Cur th-cam.com/video/cj-WUqz_jHo/w-d-xo.html

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    We need the directors cut of Batman Forever now

    • @adamantium4797
      @adamantium4797 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Those scenes changes a lot about his movie it's even better

    • @patrick4662
      @patrick4662 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      seriously some of these scenes were great. Totally should have been in the movie. But the news anchor's name was "Kenneth Frequency"? LOLL what a cheap laugh - reference to the REM song I assume. Would of been cooler if they used a character from the comics.

    • @sunsetman22
      @sunsetman22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      we might be close to getting it

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @sunsetman22 Did I miss some news?

  • @thegirlleastlikelyto
    @thegirlleastlikelyto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wish they'd kept the retirement/who am I scene because watching the final cut it feels really jarring when he says he's quitting being Batman. A lot of these more serious scenes really show what a good Bruce Wayne Val Kilmer was, I really enjoyed his performance and feel like honestly he was underused. The giant bat animatronic was cool too, they should've kept that in because of the sheer effort that went into it.
    I do like the campy vibe of the final film but just think that a little bit of the more serious stuff would have made it great, and more memorable.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah there's some good stuff in here. I love how Batman Forever was half serious/half silly. A little more of this serious stuff could have fit in I think.

  • @lw3646
    @lw3646 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I get the feeling a couple of these scenes were cut because they wanted to stick with the lighter more cartoony and fantastical style which is a shame. The idea of batman questioning if he should carry on being batman and being picked on by the media should have been left in, would have made it a more complex adult sort of film, actually interested in ideas not just fighting and cheesy lines.

    • @muigokublack6487
      @muigokublack6487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's different, in this universe with Joker dead his parents are avenged and his whole reason for becoming Batman but seeing as more costumed villains are coming because of him it's a valid question if he's doing more harm than good at this point. It's ironic this movie in 1995 talked about this before The Dark Knight even if it was cut.

    • @Facade953
      @Facade953 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      After the backlash caused by Batman Returns, McDonalds was actually monitoring them and had the last word.🙄

    • @muigokublack6487
      @muigokublack6487 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Facade953 I don't know about McDonalds but Warner Brothers was VERY insistent Forever be more kid-friendly hence the hiring of Joel and was monitoring the production and credit was it's due it worked. It made a nice hefty profit for WB and everyone who got in on doing promotions for the movie including McDonalds.
      Those crystal glasses are still cool.

    • @Facade953
      @Facade953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@muigokublack6487 I've always liked the fact that it had a great balance of darkness and campiness.

    • @muigokublack6487
      @muigokublack6487 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Facade953 So do I and these deleted scenes would've made it even better. I think this movie struck the right balance between dark and camp compared to Batman & Robin which went full-on camp even though I love it too. Joel's filmography shows he can do dark and serious stuff and had this universe continued Batman Unchained would've been the apology film.

  • @danzigjr
    @danzigjr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As someone who consumed a lot of Batman Forever media back in 1995, these scenes make both the SNES video game and the comic book adaptation make a lot more sense.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah in the Arcade Game you actually fight the Giant Bat as an end of level boss!

    • @danzigjr
      @danzigjr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The first level of the SNES game is Arkham Asylum. The final room is Harvey's cell, complete with giant ceiling fan.

  • @thecianinator
    @thecianinator 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This edit is incredible! Now I feel like I actually know what the artists behind this movie wanted it to be.

  • @ScriptedEntertainment
    @ScriptedEntertainment 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was looking for the deleted scenes to do exactly this, not gonna anymore, but this is an amazing video!

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Credit has to go to Josh Jensen who created the Virtual Workprint that these are taken from.

  • @jaminallen3119
    @jaminallen3119 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow! Those scenes make the movie quite different. Much more if how modern superhero Batman's are done. Yet this was twenty plus years sooner! They are finished scenes too, well lit and cut so seems that he wanted them in there. Great, thanks for posting!! 👌🖖

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I think Joel wanted these put back in. He pushed for a director's cut when the Batman Anthology dvd set came out but WB said no. They really do subtly change the tone of the film. Not drastically but they make it feel a bit more substantial.

  • @davidfarmer7948
    @davidfarmer7948 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You sir are amazing! Thank you for doing this!

  • @kh7296
    @kh7296 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    “Wanna grab a Harley and go for a ride?” - Harley Quinn be like 😎

  • @TheIrishSicilian
    @TheIrishSicilian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    These should of all been in the movie. Would of made it greater.

    • @queencancerous5332
      @queencancerous5332 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Warner Bros wanted to make the film more family friendly, Schumacher even wanted to do an adaptation of Batman Year 1 to apologize for Batman and Robin, but Warner Bros turned it down.

  • @serwinzzalot9989
    @serwinzzalot9989 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    With or without these scenes I see the greatness in this movie. I see the adam west version, the Burton version. Bob kanes and frank miller's. Schumacher did go too heavy with his flamboyance but wow he was really close.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm with you, there's some greatness in here.

  • @abhinandansarkar6597
    @abhinandansarkar6597 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This scenes would have pivoted Batman Forever to a whole new game!!

  • @Mike-0201
    @Mike-0201 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    As much as I love Keaton in the role(s), this was a good Batman movie. Had they left the original cut, using some, if not all of this footage, this could have been a great Batman movie. Kilmer was a good pick to replace Keaton. They look similar in the cowl.

    • @KenMasters.
      @KenMasters. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The only actor I can think of who would replace Michael Keaton as Batman is Gary Sinise.
      Val Kilmer on the other hand is meant to be his very own take on a rebooted Batman from the very start.

    • @joejoerobinson8724
      @joejoerobinson8724 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought it was good minus the goofyness

  • @jaythefourth
    @jaythefourth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can see why the bat was removed from the film since this largely marketed to kids back then, but dang. That was a really cool visual if they cut it right after Bruce's tear started falling.

  • @sdb7012
    @sdb7012 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Remember seeing this movie in theatres! Val did a damn good job and Jim Carrey was an awesome Riddler. Killer soundtrack also!

  • @JD-Media
    @JD-Media 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Yeah I think that barber scene really should remain a deleted scene regardless of different movie cuts lol

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah it's my least favourite of all the deleted scenes.

    • @acon2253
      @acon2253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@1995Batman Yes, I agree. I think everyone can agree that that scene should remain deleted.

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@acon2253 that scene should remain on the cutting room floor.

    • @acon2253
      @acon2253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@darthkurland Yeah it was the worst and most embarassing of the delted scenes, yet it explains why Riddler and Two-Face had so much free reign over the city. I suppose it could have been replaced with a different scene as that one was embarassing and cringeworthy. So basically remove the scene but the concept has to remain.

    • @dstreet4599
      @dstreet4599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd keep it since the concept does explain why Batman didn't stop Two-Face and Riddler's crime spree. But I'd alter it so they don't make that joke at the end or show Batman running into an abandoned building with a green question mark spray painted on the wall instead. ❓

  • @darthkurland
    @darthkurland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    One exchange of dialogue that I would have included for the moment before Bruce enters the area with the giant bat would have played out like this:
    BRUCE: “What’s in there?”
    ALFRED: “Only what you take with you.”
    It would have been a reference to a scene from “The Empire Strikes Back.”

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ha. Yes. Love it.

    • @anthonyvaccari4607
      @anthonyvaccari4607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had Empire strikes back vibes when I first saw this seen. Looks to be a homage without being on the nose. Nice you feel the same way about this scene.

  • @OldMovieRob
    @OldMovieRob 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Those were some fascinating scenes they removed.

  • @sdot7117
    @sdot7117 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Val didn’t event try to get in shape for this role. But that pole kick was still lethal 😂

  • @fartkerson
    @fartkerson 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:22 "Wanna grab a Harley and go for a ride" sounds like a little bit of Jim Morrison showing through. The Lizard King reaching out across the veil of reality and through the doors of perception.

  • @Cose2Cose
    @Cose2Cose 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    OMG! The movie could have lived up to the first 2! It could have been great and not just good.

  • @peterburke1709
    @peterburke1709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Never been in love Bruce? What about Vicki vale? Selina Kyle? Remember them?

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nah both those cases were lust not love. Chase loved both Bruce AND Batman.

    • @kwayneboy1524
      @kwayneboy1524 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1995Batman even if they met again it wouldn't work out.

  • @kingdom70x7ministries
    @kingdom70x7ministries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    #ReleasetheSchumacherCut Directors cut we know it exists.

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    i get it some of these scenes were a bit too long but i think it couldve been cut down a bit to slip it in

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I can kind of see how they'd alter the pacing of the movie. Particularly the giant Bat scene. It’s an odd way to start the climax of the movie.

  • @YnotNomis
    @YnotNomis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We need a Director's cut of this movie!

  • @derekstewart777
    @derekstewart777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent job! This is BADASS!

  • @vinylfrontierextra
    @vinylfrontierextra 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @3:05 There is absolutely no excuse why this amazing scene between Bruce and Dick should have been cut out!! No excuse...

  • @kyiwintun4253
    @kyiwintun4253 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just love the THEME of BATMAN FOREVER!!!

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Music theme or script theme?

    • @kyiwintun4253
      @kyiwintun4253 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@1995Batman The music that played in intro and the ending. I thought it was another fantastic score from John William's Superman.

  • @theuberman7170
    @theuberman7170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That bat scene was good. They should have kept it.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed, it's such a great visual.

  • @SandmanGotBeer
    @SandmanGotBeer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've never cared what anyone said. I always loved Batman Forever. I'll admit it's not a perfect movie and I love it for personal reasons. It was the first Batman movie I saw in a theater back in 1995. I loved the look and atmosphere: the neon lights (I love neon), the tone, the sets, the vehicles, the style, the music. I thought Val Kilmer as Bruce Wayne was incredibly underrated. His Batman was fine...not outstanding, but not terrible at all. Jim Carrey as Riddler....well in 1995 there was Noone bigger than Jim Carrey and he was awesome (I'll concede that Robin Williams in a Tim Burton film would have been fascinating as well). Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face? Meh..... Nicole Kidman? Well, she was hot and that's all she needed to do.
    I'm dying for a Shumacher cut with the darker tone that this film clearly flirted with but couldn't commit to.
    I'm glad that 28 years later, we've had enough iterations of Batman so that the fanbase have a variety of options to choose as "THEIR" Batman and the hate has died down for other versions. Each iteration is largely viewed nowadays as having its place in history and no one is forced to like it, unlike back in the day when we had to take what we were given (we were lucky just to have one comic book movie every few years). Now there's more than enough to go around and enough for everyone to find and love their version. We who have been here since the beginning of comic book movies truly know how far we've come and that we really have reached the promised land that we never thought would be possible.

    • @patrick4662
      @patrick4662 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think its great.

  • @mw5549
    @mw5549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    By confronting his demons he was able to level up and become George Clooney and move on to a camper take on the caped crusader.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I think that was the idea Joel was going for.

    • @Facade953
      @Facade953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This would have actually backfired in Batman: Dark Knight ( scrapped sequel ). Clooney's campy Batman would have lost the fear of criminals as well as the element of surprise. However, a series of murders commited by Man-Bat would have him re-established as the mysterious and violent vigilante he once was. The movie would return the franchise to it's dark roots and there were even thoughts about a later sequel with Clayface as the main villain. The idea for Dark Knight came up after Batman Unchained/Triumphant got scrapped.

  • @derekseven1647
    @derekseven1647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for posting these things

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're welcome

  • @MrFrostien
    @MrFrostien 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Two Face escape scene was the introduction and it looked like a horror movie scene, thats pretty much why they left it out of the final cut. In a way you can understand it they dont fit in the movie apart for devolpment but the visuals make the movie feel weird like a comedy then an action a drama and a horror movie. The hair dressing place scene had SCHUMACHER written all over it, also it looked like the 60s tv show.

  • @selfiekroos1777
    @selfiekroos1777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THESE 12 MINUTES
    +
    NO FOURTH MOVIE
    =
    GREAT TRILOGY

  • @gusj2800
    @gusj2800 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always loved that running at the end.

  • @joechill6327
    @joechill6327 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some of these were really good and add complexity and intrigue to the movie but the McDonald's executives were obviously not wanting any of that.

  • @ThomasFerrugia
    @ThomasFerrugia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    These additional scenes show what this movie should have been. With a director capable of showing some restraint, less campy performances by the supporting cast and a plot that didn't involve a nonsensical mind-reading device, it would have been a really interesting take on Batman.

  • @SuperMasterJefe
    @SuperMasterJefe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why the fuck was this cut??? This woulda made the movie 100 times better and overshadowed alot of the camp that nearly ruined a decent film
    Yes this one was decent unlike the other one

  • @Shimospeher
    @Shimospeher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a somwehat great twist if he really meet a Man-bat in his batcave and they both see themselves as similar.

  • @colinschmitz8297
    @colinschmitz8297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why did they cut these scenes, these really help explain so much of the reasons why Batman decides to temporarily quit in the movie.

  • @matthewthompson4387
    @matthewthompson4387 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's not surprising these scenes were cut out...that giant bat looks like a prop from the Halloween store. It's a shame because the scenes with Michael Gough's Alfred add depth and heart to the paper-thin plot.

  • @AndrewsOpinion15
    @AndrewsOpinion15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome batman forever [1995] film unseen 1 - the deleted scene - (with music and sfx ) !!!

  • @johnemmanuel398
    @johnemmanuel398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Include these scenes in the movie and I think it’ll boost it to a great show

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch the Virtual Workprint fan edit. It has all these scenes added seamlessly.

  • @Chris-qo4rt
    @Chris-qo4rt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was never a fan of Batman Forever, but using deleted scenes and cutting some of the sillier moments and also re-scoring some of the goofy soundtrack you could actually make a pretty good Batman flick out of it. The material is there.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it's not a totally different movie but it's a bit more serious.

  • @nestorperena8629
    @nestorperena8629 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    miss the 90's. the last great decade... on the western side of the world obviously.

    • @universumaeternalisfirmus
      @universumaeternalisfirmus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For now one day change will come for the better before that dies and the cycle repeats

  • @fabianramirez2914
    @fabianramirez2914 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Warner realese Director's Cut of this movie to honor the Director

  • @marytate6637
    @marytate6637 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want to write that my name is Josh Tate and I'm writing that the year 2024 will not only be the 35th anniversary of Tim Burton's 1989 Batman film but it will also be Batman's 85th anniversary year too.

  • @justinhenderson5813
    @justinhenderson5813 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The deleted scene with Batman considering retirement- well….he’s spent most of his life helping others who couldn’t help themselves,he showed Gotham they Don’t have to be afraid of criminals anymore , plus…he became Batman because of his parents murder..But his parent’s death are avenged ( Jack nipper- the Joker 🃏 is Dead) , what else does he have left to prove ? …for anyone who reads this comment-do you think he’s done more than enough for Gotham and should retire??

  • @lookylookhere71
    @lookylookhere71 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kilmer and Gough were funny in the movie "Top Secret"😂

  • @Jwingmann
    @Jwingmann 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Bat scene was terrifying. Definitely cut that out bc it was too frightening

  • @BigAL68xyz
    @BigAL68xyz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    At least a couple of these scenes would have helped explain more obscure parts of the movie, like what was written in that book, and why was he so quick to give up being Batman.

  • @darthkurland
    @darthkurland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Deleted Scenes Cast
    Val Kilmer: Batman/Bruce Wayne
    Tommy Lee Jones: Two-Face/Harvey Dent
    Chris O’Donnell: Robin/Dick Grayson
    Nicole Kidman: Dr. Chase Meridian
    Michael Gough: Alfred Pennyworth
    Philip Moon: Newscaster
    And
    Rene Aubojonois as “Dr. Burton”

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Man-Bat Creature Fabrication and Special Makeup Effects by Rick Baker’s Cinnovation Studios
      Costume Design: Bob Ringwood & Ingrid Ferren
      Batsuit Fabrication: Ironhead Studios
      Production Design: Barbara Ling
      VFX Supervisor: John Dykstra
      Batman Created by Bob Kane & Bill Finger
      Story by Lee Batchler & Janet Scott Batchler
      Screenplay by Lee Batchler & Janet Scott Batchler and Akiva Goldsman
      Produced by Tim Burton & Peter MacGregor-Scott
      Directed by Joel Schumacher

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Philip Moon! Thank you, always wondered who that was.

  • @Th_Uslss_Indvdl
    @Th_Uslss_Indvdl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why the scene between him and Alfred discussing who he is was cut I’ll never understand.

    • @mainstreetsaint36
      @mainstreetsaint36 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Too deep for studio execs. These are the same people that watched 'Man of Steel' and asked how Superman was going to get back home to Krypton?

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mainstreetsaint36 I forgot about that

  • @johnma1280
    @johnma1280 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow. For some reason I thought George Clooney was Bruce in both Batman movies.

  • @richardwalther6229
    @richardwalther6229 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Waze needs a “Crime In Progress” notification like Batman benefited from.

  • @Facade953
    @Facade953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Criminals From All Over The World: BATMAN! GET YOUR ASS OUT HERE AND FACE US!!!
    Batfleck: Tell me, do you bleed?
    Criminals: Ehm...when did he get so tall and bulky and where are his rubber nipples?
    Batfleck: You...WILL!!!

  • @crazycarlsadventures5983
    @crazycarlsadventures5983 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    IM TELLING YA MAN…A GIANT BAT

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Listen Knox, don't go publishing this c**p

    • @crazycarlsadventures5983
      @crazycarlsadventures5983 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@1995Batman it will ruin your already useless reputation

  • @MeloRat69
    @MeloRat69 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard Akiva Goldsman (the original screen writer) talked with warner bros a while back about possibly bringing the directors cut to life, but the plans were put on hold due to warner merging with discovery.
    After seeing there's scenes I'm definitely curious to see how that would look

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I just saw that. That's awesome news that he's been trying behind the scenes.

  • @nickrodic1302
    @nickrodic1302 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They should have left those scenes in, especially Harvey’s escape and Bruce facing his fears. That would have made the story way better!!

  • @darthkurland
    @darthkurland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Image Restoration: Warner Bros. MPI
    Additional VFX: Framestore, Cinesite, FXTC Digital & Image “G”

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One other thing that I would include.
      Music by Elliot Goldenthal
      Original Themes Composed by Danny Elfman

    • @darthkurland
      @darthkurland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To me, Danny Elfman’s themes defined this entire film series. Even though Tim Burton didn’t stay in the Director’s chair, Batman isn’t the same without that six-note motif by Danny Elfman.

  • @pacandpal3
    @pacandpal3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think if they had made that final 90s batman movie in 99 batman unchained and brought back val . The franchise would be much more satisfying . Or at least not made the sudden decision to replace him despite the issues during this film we couldve had the fourth movie we deserved and not some joke of a batman .

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would have loved to have Val in Batman & Robin. I'm not saying he would have saved it but I think he would have brought more gravitas to the Bruce Wayne part. Might have balanced out the goofy parts a little.

    • @pacandpal3
      @pacandpal3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @1995Batman most definitely. Man I hope we get the directors cut of batman forever someday .

  • @joshmobley7347
    @joshmobley7347 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SandmanGotBeer: Great observations, At 67yrs.old I’ve seen All the Bat-films & since He’s my Favorite of all time, I’ve Studied all of them many viewing, over the years. I find that I Liked them all for one reason or another(mostly because it’s Still the “bat”) Batman & Robin Clooney & O’Donald could have been a LOT better, but they looked Good in the Uniforms minus the “nipples” just not taken Seriously by Story or Legend! Keaton & Affleck remain my Favorite Live Action Movie Batmen, though Kilmer, Bale,& Pattinson Had a lot of “merit” to their Portrayal’s! Looking forward to when The Bat-Signal Lights the Gotham sky’s AGAIN.✌️🦇🦇🦇🦇

  • @rakura
    @rakura 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These deleted scenes change the whole movie. What were they thinking such a waste.

  • @noahstanley5891
    @noahstanley5891 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can why these scenes aren't in the theatrical release. They are very serious moments and not campy enough for the toy selling business.

  • @DeaconOnTheAir
    @DeaconOnTheAir 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That movie would have been so much better if these scenes hadn’t been cut. At least that’s my opinion today. After Christopher Nolan’s take I can appreciate the seriousness of these scenes.

  • @tomasrivero6423
    @tomasrivero6423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    once again hollywood producers and executives demonstrate they don't know jackshit about good filmmaking

  • @freddymentos8378
    @freddymentos8378 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @ 6:44 "''I have never been in love before Alfred" - Except for Vicky Vale and Selena Kyle.. This scene needed to be cut. I actually like some of the other scenes, though.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always saw Forever as a separate continuity to the Keaton films.

  • @iambatman6201
    @iambatman6201 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is phenomenal great video. I wish they added some scene in the movie

  • @theuberman7170
    @theuberman7170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank God they cut that hair salon scene out.

    • @1995Batman
      @1995Batman  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I don't like it either.