The Social Network (100%) I love Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross' score as under Nine Inch Nails they will be doing the score for Tron Ares this coming October of 2025. Oppenheimer stuck out to me last year as Christopher Nolan deserves the Oscar for best picture which he indeed won. His filmography is what doesn't belittle me but every film I saw does something better overtime.
This might not qualify as a biopic per se, but I'm Not There by Todd Haynes feels like the perfect embodiment of a life like Bob Dylan's without conforming to biopic tropes.
The fact that he played all the guitar parts live & actually sang is insane. Not only does he get all of Dylan’s mannerisms spot on but he’s literally performing the music and is almost identical to the source material. I think it’s a shame because I feel like Timothy is going to get overlooked at the Oscars. People are burnt on Biopics and too many people have won Oscar’s for the genre. But he’s literally the best actor to ever do a biopic and he actually deserves an Oscar. Again, I think he’s gonna get overlooked sadly.
I love Bob Dylan and i like how the movie portrayed him. A mysterious free spirited genius, somewhat boring human, ungrateful *sshole but as soon as he begins to play and sing we can do nothing else but shut our mouth and listen. He plays his guitar like he's riding his bike, recklessly. That's how music should feel. No surprise, Dylan dubbed Timmy
2:31 EXACTLY, Timmy’s performance in call me by your name many years ago was INCREDIBLE, and I’ve been waiting for him to slip back into a role that could really show people his true acting chops to a serious audience.
It’s so hard not to fall for Timmy more after I heard about my community up north and in Minneapolis talk about his interactions w him in his visits to our state. Lots of pride! Love your hat.
No question that Chalamet disappeared in the role of Dylan. When Dylan showed up in a scene, I did not see Timothee Chalamet, I saw Bob Dylan. Outstanding performance, as are all the performances by the actors in the film. I’ve seen the movie twice, it’s that good. Thanks for the review.
I was 16 years old in '65 and grew up in the village. The greatest failure as far as I'm concerned, of this film was the director made zero attempt to create the well spring that created not just the artist, but the audience, (and everyone who was there at that time knows damn well what I mean even if I can't explain it.) Let me put it another way, Christmas is in December, but without snow Christmas isn't really Christmas. From '63 to '67 there was a non-stop blizzard in the village, it was snowing every day, and you could feel when you walked around the neighborhood. The film doesn't capture the zeitgeist of that amazing and mystical 4 year long blizzard!!!! I can't tell you how uplifting it was; you knew every minute, you were somewhere special. There were so many creative people around during that time, and that blizzard of creative energy is what frothed up that folk music scene. (Ironically just across town, less than 15 minutes from Greenwich village in the East Village during the late 76/77's, (about ten years later) the whole New Wave scene (what some called the punk scene) erupted on the energy of that same blizzard of creative energy- the zeitgeist- the right people were in the right place and the rents were cheap, the clubs were free, and people wore their hearts on their sleeves (In all honesty, the only two films which ever succeeded in capturing a place's zeitgeist was Robert Altman's 1975's Nashville, and the series 'Tales of the City'). The saddest thing is a creative blizzard will never blow over a place at a particular time ever again. Those of you who lived the majority of your lives before social media know what I'm talking about. (the invention of the internet and cell phone was the worst thing that happened to the Youth Culture). Social media destroyed the innocence of non-judgmental people giving birth to a cultural upheaval. Young people are too smart! Everyone is too cautious. People can not NOT judge, and even if by some chance that happened, the vampire-corporate-landlords will be ready to buy up neighborhoods and hike the rent so only the super rich can afford it. I don't want to shit on everything, so I'll just end it here.
@@polimana "Young people are too smart". It took a couple of years for those two scenes to really take root. The problem with social media is the criticism will kill a scene before it's fully formed. Hence, 'young people are too smart'. They read criticism about something happening, and once they rush to judgement, it's dead. The New Wave scene started in '75, but didn't really reach fruition until '77, Greenwich Village scene started in '63, but no one knew about it until '65. When I said 'young people are too smart', I was being ironic.
Surprised you didn’t mention this but here you go: Check out the 2007 Todd Haynes *I'm Not There* for a more experimental take on the biopic genre…with (surprise!) Bob Dylan as the mercurial subject. That film addresses your issues, and more.
A biopic I really enjoyed was Rocketman (2019), not only because it was a musical but because the musical scenes really captured the essence of Elton John, and they flowed really well with the story being told in that particular film (not to mention Taron Egerton being great in the role). As others have said, I'd highly recommend watching I'M NOT THERE (2007). Are you planning on watching or doing a review of QUEER?
'I'm Not There' already kinda did the "capturing Bob Dylan" angle, so that, coupled with Mangold in the director's chair, makes sense of why this went the usual standard biopic route. And frankly I'm fine with that.
it's funny to hear your feedback on this movie as suffering from the "by-the-number" limitations of the genre. the other biopic on Dylan, I'm Not There, as excellent as it is, is so complex and ambitious that it fails to pin down a single truth about the songwriter. that is the point it tries to make. focusing on a single period of Dylan's career, A Complete Unknown may manage to provide more insight
Very “by-the-number” and rote, and still very competent (but not very complex or cinematic). The movie also made me wonder what was fiction, and what wasn’t. . .
Terribly bad portrayal of Dylan. Totally amateur renditions of Dylan's songs. Casting director should be fired. It ruined what could have been a good movie.
perfectly sums up how i felt, they focused only on how he influenced the genre growth of folk to rock and blues rather than a deep look into dylan as a person
For me, this film was not about Bob Dylan. He was the prop. This film is about the price of incredible success. It requires to a high degree the sacrifice of empathy. As an example, one of the attributes of the big five personality assessment is agreeableness and politeness. Dylan was not very agreeable, and he was certainly not polite; polite being defined as out of empathy how likely is someone to lie. Dylan is a wonderful subject for this sort of study. Joan Baez helped his career tremendously in the early years when he was still a nobody and was only starting to make a name for himself. Just a few years later, when her career was fading, she wanted to be a guest at his festival and he refused. And Martin Scorsese's, "like a Rolling Stone" he specifically says that love and business do not mix. I find this to be true of successful artists. They focus on what they want like a laserbeam leaving mini bruised hearts behind them.
Really thought this was going to be terrible after that first trailer. Ended up really surprised, and like you impressed by Chalamet and Baez's actress. I'm gonna have to see her other work
i'm beyond excited for this movie omg. i'm curious on your thoughts on i'm not there because it is very different and weird but works so well for dylan
Barbaro’s voice was the most impressive. Granted, it may be harder to sing like Bob Dylan than Joan Baez but Timmy’s voice was frequently slightly off key and not quite a replica of the original. Barbaro meanwhile sounded beautiful and uncannily identical to Joan.
The Doors (edited version) is actually a very good biopic of Jim. I think it's the harmonization of the songs and poems with the narrative. And that desert scene is a certifiable cinematic classic.
This is a fair rating, biopics can only get so far and I did enjoy watching it. I gotta say there is not a damn scene without someone playing a guitar, holding a guitar, or a guitar in the background. I noticed that maybe 30 minutes in. Once you notice you can't stop.
I know this is 'A Complete Unknown', but I loved Sonic The Hedgehog 3 in theaters. It has plesantly surprised me for a video game adaptation that rarely gets a third great movie with the adaptation of Sonic Adventure 2 from the Sega Dreamcast & Shadow The Hedgehog meanwhile.. SPOILERS: I loved Gerald & Ivo Robotnik's dance scene with The Chemical Brothers as Jim Carrey can play two characters very well to the final battle with both Robotnik's vs Team Sonic & Shadow where Sonic & Shadow became both Super Sonic & Super Shadow to stop the chaos energy to end the world. It brought a great ending to the trilogy but starts a new chapter with... METAL SONIC & Amy Rose.
Really don’t like just labelling films as Oscar bait, by that metric any big actor that acts in a biopic is just doing it in hopes of having a good award season. It’s annoying bc it means good biopics are just thrown away by this label.
I would have preferred a Dylan film focusing on the time right before his 66 motorcycle crash and the time after at Big Pink, as he recovers. More room for interpretation and a more intimate setting. The going electric era is just so mined already.
What an eerie impression of Cate Blanchett. Not only did he get her mannerisms, voice, and style spot on, his natural demeanor creates an even more effiminized Dylan than Cate did - as he overcompensates for his lack of gravity by failing in his period targeting leers to even capture a James Dean impression, let alone the out-of-step authorship of Dylan that compelled a generation. Can't wait to see this guy in the Arnold Schwartzennager biography. He'll surely be able to bench 500 lbs as neatly as he can pinch out an authentically gravelly Dylan tone. Casting actors who've never eaten a real life punch, & who have the salt of 5th Avenue aesthete, is surely the best choice for screening the biographies of organically hardened historical artists.
I'm with you in that there are so few biopics that I really enjoy, but this does have my interest for the main performance alone. My favorite biopic probably is Oppenheimer. Elvis was a vibe, too. Do movies like Braveheart or The King count? Yeah, they're big fictionalizations of real events, but so are most traditionally labeled biopics, so I'm cheating and counting them. If they count, then those are my picks. If they don't count, then take it as a statement about my general enthusiasm toward most traditional biopics. I suppose another, more conventional contender would be Darkest Hour. Gary Oldman kills it as always.
I watched the Nardwuar video with Timothée Chalamet. I don’t even know him that well, I never watched Dune, but I could tell that he was really into Bob Dylan story. He did his research and he dedicated himself to him and I really respect that. It doesn’t seem like a lot of people do that for biopics so that really solidified him for me.
Having grown up in the sixties and having a front row seat to the rise of Bob Dylan, I can honestly say that this movie did a good job. After watching the 2022 oversylized, over-the-top, Elvis movie, It was refreshing to see some understated and subtle production in a bio-pic movie.
Thank you for the review, I will see this when it comes to the UK, but like others in the comments, I'd be very interested to know your thoughts on the Todd Haynes experimental biopic on Dylan "I'm Not There" with Cate Blanchett playing the role of Dylan in this era. Very interested indeed.
I'm not sure I would've necessarily called Logan safe, but that tracks with just about everything else I've seen from him, not that I think this is inherently a bad thing, mind you.
I was never a big Dylan fan, but I loved the film and came to appreciate his importance and achievements within the music industry. Chalemet’s performance is on par with Val Kilmer’s in the 1991 Doors biopic. He completely inhabits the skin of Bob Dylan.
This is a pretty crazy review, so your opinion basically is that a lot of biopics but specially musical biopics are very safe and by the books and even mediocre, and this is structured just like one of those, but Bob Dylan and Timothée chalamet are just simply too goated not to shine? Like Boyb Dylan is so interesting and great and Timothée is trying to do something worthwhile and the movie is about that so it kind of saves it??????
Walk Hard is the end-all be-all of music biopics. That said,‘I’m looking forward to seeing this if not only for Johnny Cash. Cash needs another movie about his life because Mangold missed a lot with Walk the Line.
“You’re kind of an asshole, Bob” yet somehow Joan Baez falls in love with him. That’s Dylan. He is always becoming and in the process leaving his fans of the moment behind. We get the hint of this when he’s riding in Seegar’s VW tuning the radio onto Little Richard, the complete antithesis of what Seegar and the folk movement were. Dylan’s art is his thing, moreso than any other person, particularly women (I’m Not There dives into his misogyny far better but you can see it here if you look). I saw Dylan in a concert in Shreveport last year. Most people came to revisit their own personal Dylan. What they got is who he is today, whoever that is. The movie is as revealing of our own choice to grasp a moment that’s already passed as it is of Dylan’s inherent asshole tendencies. Those two things feed on each other. I thought it was good and one I need to probe into more.
Haven't seen it, but from what I observe based on scenes and trailer, they get the dynamic between Baez and Dylan wrong. They try to make her seem more rough edged and independent than she actually was. She was completely attached and in love with Bob. But the movie seems to make it look like they were on equal footing in that regard. Also, they got the harmonica holder wrong. It doesn't look like Bob's original one. Perhaps they couldn't track it down.
curious why you have this take on their relationship when diamonds and rust is a pretty famous song detailing her frustrations with him and the relationship? i don't really see her as completely one-dimensionally smitten with him, at least not for long. the movie's great you should watch it. it digs into what some of their creative and personal differences were
@@sonny423 I saw it. I'm not saying it was a one-dimensional thing. But she fell more for him than he for her. And although Baez is a strong person in her own right, she wasn't as 'rough-edged' as the movie makes her appear. She's admitted it several times. Bob was the only one she ever truly loved. Bob was never in love with her. And that song of course is through her own subjective view on her experience. That said, I believe he felt very close to her.
The best movie about Bob Dylan will always be I'm Not There, (2007) which completely goes against the typical biopic formula by instead of telling Bob Dylan's story directly, it shows the different aspects of his music, career, and life through different stories/characters/actors
Honestly, they might as well call this The Emotional Truth That Resides In Bob Dylan. Is it accurate all the time? NOPE. But it sure does a great job of giving you a good idea about his headspace and how he just tornado'd so much in a short period of time. edit: also the singing was fantastic, but I would have loved to see more acting acting.
This is my favorite out of the: Queen Elvis Elton John etc This film felt the most real and honest. Couldnt stand the Elvis film and I'm a huge Elvis fan. Felt like one long commercial. This film with Dylan was epic and grounded.
@Karsten you need to rewatch Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead mans chest. You gave it 2 stars and the fact that the action is as insane as Mad Max: Fury Road, but it isnt list food like it, means you need to rewatch it
i walked out pissed. such a waste, but the writing was horrible. they bring up the name "zimmerman" once then never get back into it. his songs are just randomly sprinkled everywhere. the very opening with the folk song playing brought tears to my eyes, but then it never reallt built up to anything. when i first hear timothee chalamet was playing him, I was dissapointed, but then the trailers got me super excited. then the actual movie... what a let down
Just saw the movie had a couple of thoughts, First I agree with you completely with the topic of the film which is the most overt tread. But but what's that being said? I think that it was very much appropriate if at least you want to get mainstream audiences interested in Dylan, but I think one of the biggest things and glaring problems. The film is that Timothy is just way too old to be playing. This error of Dylan sends. One thing that is prominent about Dylan during this time is as beautifulness and not saying the Timmy looks old, but he certainly isn't. The Spring chicken that you would have been 4 years ago when the movie was originally casted, but with that being said, i thought he was very convincing in the move with it being it clear that he not only capturing this era but all of dylan. What I very much loved about the film is that it just shows so much love for Dylan's music period now, when I first heard the recordings of the song that they had put on for the trailers, I was initially worried since I kinda just sounded like. They were putting on the voice but when you listen to the context of the movie, not Only is the audio near Perfect but as well as the performances Feel authentic and not forced like some other biopics, and Finally overall, I think that the movie shows a love and appreciation For Now Only Dylan but also this PERIOD of time so. I think that it makes up for its shortcomings very much with a simple fact
Films bros in the comments are gonna attack me but Rocketman is the best biopic because music should contribute to the story. Biopics should be a musical. ITS MORE ENTERTAINING! I am biased though, as a theatre kid.
I mean even though Sylvie character is fictional for his Girlfriend at that time but I felt really bad for what Bob did to her and the story kept repeating at a stage and felt a bit long. Apart than that I agree Timmy made the movie captivating to see.
As a fellow Minnesota boy the Hibbing Highschool post card was much appreciated. Even though Hibbing does suck, Robbert Zimmerman is right about that one.
Frustrating that not many people seem to be aware the best version of this story already exists. I'm Not There is the complete antidote to conventional Hollywood wikipedia skim biopics. It's an experimental take on the 'idea' of Dylan's mystique and iconography, split across numerous actors in an attempt to understand a musician thats's somewhat unknowable. It's an epic film that goes against cliche and is definitely worth a watch.
I don't think this film will be bad and I really like James Mangold's "Walk the Line", but it's existence just irritates me. Just tired of Hollywood greenlighting another musical biopic that will never capture the whole scope of an artist life while wasting good cast on a web search. It does remind me that I have to watch "I'm Not There". Might not be accurate, might even suck, but it at least doesn't pretend to be accurate, just illustrate.
favorite biopic?
The Social Network (100%)
I love Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross' score as under Nine Inch Nails they will be doing the score for Tron Ares this coming October of 2025.
Oppenheimer stuck out to me last year as Christopher Nolan deserves the Oscar for best picture which he indeed won. His filmography is what doesn't belittle me but every film I saw does something better overtime.
Marriage story
@@BatSignalJammermarriage story is not a biopic
This might not qualify as a biopic per se, but I'm Not There by Todd Haynes feels like the perfect embodiment of a life like Bob Dylan's without conforming to biopic tropes.
Control (2007), about Ian Curtis from Joy Division
the Reynolds Woodcock and Lydia Tár biopics were also just *chef's kiss*
The fact that he played all the guitar parts live & actually sang is insane. Not only does he get all of Dylan’s mannerisms spot on but he’s literally performing the music and is almost identical to the source material.
I think it’s a shame because I feel like Timothy is going to get overlooked at the Oscars. People are burnt on Biopics and too many people have won Oscar’s for the genre.
But he’s literally the best actor to ever do a biopic and he actually deserves an Oscar. Again, I think he’s gonna get overlooked sadly.
There is no apostrophe in Oscars.
@@skinovtheperineum1208 O’Scar’s
Walk the Line was a much better movie but Chalamet really did capture Dylan's mannerisms well.
@@nickpagano7134😂
yeah he did a good job but "best actor to ever do a biopic" is an enormous reach
Every time Karsten watches a movie, an angel loses his wings, plummeting to his death
I think this is the plot of the 1987 movie Wings of Desire
@@iceheartqtygerwho plays Karsten?
I love Bob Dylan and i like how the movie portrayed him. A mysterious free spirited genius, somewhat boring human, ungrateful *sshole but as soon as he begins to play and sing we can do nothing else but shut our mouth and listen. He plays his guitar like he's riding his bike, recklessly. That's how music should feel. No surprise, Dylan dubbed Timmy
No, he very much did not. If he did, he would sound a lot more like Bob Dylan himself, rather than only half like him like they have here.
Timmy is a great mimic, but he has very little soul. That’s what’s missing. Still, an incredible performance.
2:31 EXACTLY, Timmy’s performance in call me by your name many years ago was INCREDIBLE, and I’ve been waiting for him to slip back into a role that could really show people his true acting chops to a serious audience.
Beautiful Boy is heart wrenching too
Uh, you didn’t find it creepy?
@@thisaintphilosophy7161 what exactly would I find creepy?
@@thisaintphilosophy7161 he was an adult stop it
@ A child and an old man?Yeah, I don’t wanna talk to you anymore.
It’s so hard not to fall for Timmy more after I heard about my community up north and in Minneapolis talk about his interactions w him in his visits to our state. Lots of pride! Love your hat.
No question that Chalamet disappeared in the role of Dylan. When Dylan showed up in a scene, I did not see Timothee Chalamet, I saw Bob Dylan. Outstanding performance, as are all the performances by the actors in the film. I’ve seen the movie twice, it’s that good. Thanks for the review.
I was 16 years old in '65 and grew up in the village. The greatest failure as far as I'm concerned, of this film was the director made zero attempt to create the well spring that created not just the artist, but the audience, (and everyone who was there at that time knows damn well what I mean even if I can't explain it.) Let me put it another way, Christmas is in December, but without snow Christmas isn't really Christmas. From '63 to '67 there was a non-stop blizzard in the village, it was snowing every day, and you could feel when you walked around the neighborhood. The film doesn't capture the zeitgeist of that amazing and mystical 4 year long blizzard!!!! I can't tell you how uplifting it was; you knew every minute, you were somewhere special. There were so many creative people around during that time, and that blizzard of creative energy is what frothed up that folk music scene. (Ironically just across town, less than 15 minutes from Greenwich village in the East Village during the late 76/77's, (about ten years later) the whole New Wave scene (what some called the punk scene) erupted on the energy of that same blizzard of creative energy- the zeitgeist- the right people were in the right place and the rents were cheap, the clubs were free, and people wore their hearts on their sleeves (In all honesty, the only two films which ever succeeded in capturing a place's zeitgeist was Robert Altman's 1975's Nashville, and the series 'Tales of the City'). The saddest thing is a creative blizzard will never blow over a place at a particular time ever again. Those of you who lived the majority of your lives before social media know what I'm talking about. (the invention of the internet and cell phone was the worst thing that happened to the Youth Culture). Social media destroyed the innocence of non-judgmental people giving birth to a cultural upheaval. Young people are too smart! Everyone is too cautious. People can not NOT judge, and even if by some chance that happened, the vampire-corporate-landlords will be ready to buy up neighborhoods and hike the rent so only the super rich can afford it. I don't want to shit on everything, so I'll just end it here.
thanks for sharing this, interesting comment to read! if you feel like answering, i'm curious what you mean by "young people are too smart"?
@@polimana "Young people are too smart". It took a couple of years for those two scenes to really take root. The problem with social media is the criticism will kill a scene before it's fully formed. Hence, 'young people are too smart'. They read criticism about something happening, and once they rush to judgement, it's dead. The New Wave scene started in '75, but didn't really reach fruition until '77, Greenwich Village scene started in '63, but no one knew about it until '65. When I said 'young people are too smart', I was being ironic.
Surprised you didn’t mention this but here you go:
Check out the 2007 Todd Haynes *I'm Not There* for a more experimental take on the biopic genre…with (surprise!) Bob Dylan as the mercurial subject. That film addresses your issues, and more.
its so good
Cannot stress this enough. Strangely the two films, despite more than a decade between them, each are perfect parody’s and mirrors of the other.
Karsten we need to know your thoughts on Sonic 3.
Sonic 3 was so good in theaters!
They made 3 of those things 😮 !!!?
Never heard of Kirsten until now.
I should go see what he said about Mufasa. No way we are going to see it but just for discussion purposes.
Sonic 3 was much better than it had any right to be. . .
And the Oscar goes to...
A biopic I really enjoyed was Rocketman (2019), not only because it was a musical but because the musical scenes really captured the essence of Elton John, and they flowed really well with the story being told in that particular film (not to mention Taron Egerton being great in the role).
As others have said, I'd highly recommend watching I'M NOT THERE (2007).
Are you planning on watching or doing a review of QUEER?
'I'm Not There' already kinda did the "capturing Bob Dylan" angle, so that, coupled with Mangold in the director's chair, makes sense of why this went the usual standard biopic route. And frankly I'm fine with that.
When it comes to musical biopics, the one that stands out for me is Love & Mercy following Brian Wilson.
Go borrow 'Eight Days A Week' from your local library.
I loved this movie so much!
del Toro’s been glazing this movie on BlueSky, so I may go see it
Ew gross bluesky..
@@dfqgoing_on6899ew Bluesky the app overrun by misinformation, bots and rage bait is so much better
You’re so cool for using bluesky
it's funny to hear your feedback on this movie as suffering from the "by-the-number" limitations of the genre. the other biopic on Dylan, I'm Not There, as excellent as it is, is so complex and ambitious that it fails to pin down a single truth about the songwriter. that is the point it tries to make. focusing on a single period of Dylan's career, A Complete Unknown may manage to provide more insight
It really didn't provide much insight though. That's a problem. The movie felt very small
Very “by-the-number” and rote, and still very competent (but not very complex or cinematic). The movie also made me wonder what was fiction, and what wasn’t. . .
Good to hear Timmothy’s performance was good because I was very put off by it in the trailers.
Same
Who tf is Timmothy?
His performance was indeed what it looked to be like in the trailers. Not good. Make your own judgements if you choose to see it.
Terribly bad portrayal of Dylan. Totally amateur renditions of Dylan's songs. Casting director should be fired. It ruined what could have been a good movie.
perfectly sums up how i felt, they focused only on how he influenced the genre growth of folk to rock and blues rather than a deep look into dylan as a person
For me, this film was not about Bob Dylan. He was the prop. This film is about the price of incredible success. It requires to a high degree the sacrifice of empathy.
As an example, one of the attributes of the big five personality assessment is agreeableness and politeness. Dylan was not very agreeable, and he was certainly not polite; polite being defined as out of empathy how likely is someone to lie.
Dylan is a wonderful subject for this sort of study. Joan Baez helped his career tremendously in the early years when he was still a nobody and was only starting to make a name for himself. Just a few years later, when her career was fading, she wanted to be a guest at his festival and he refused. And Martin Scorsese's, "like a Rolling Stone" he specifically says that love and business do not mix.
I find this to be true of successful artists. They focus on what they want like a laserbeam leaving mini bruised hearts behind them.
Really thought this was going to be terrible after that first trailer. Ended up really surprised, and like you impressed by Chalamet and Baez's actress. I'm gonna have to see her other work
Same here, that first trailer was GOD AWFUL. A very pleasant surprise.
Why does this thumbnail go insanely hard
Karsten, don’t sell yourself short. You’re not a complete unknown, you’re the most followed account on Letterboxd!
Fellow proud Minnesotan here!
I think it miss that part of his life. Would have made this movie better.
i'm beyond excited for this movie omg. i'm curious on your thoughts on i'm not there because it is very different and weird but works so well for dylan
An Excellent example of a biopic done differently and done well was rocket man I loved that one
Barbaro’s voice was the most impressive. Granted, it may be harder to sing like Bob Dylan than Joan Baez but Timmy’s voice was frequently slightly off key and not quite a replica of the original. Barbaro meanwhile sounded beautiful and uncannily identical to Joan.
The Doors (edited version) is actually a very good biopic of Jim. I think it's the harmonization of the songs and poems with the narrative. And that desert scene is a certifiable cinematic classic.
Really nice writing on this one Karsten
This is a fair rating, biopics can only get so far and I did enjoy watching it. I gotta say there is not a damn scene without someone playing a guitar, holding a guitar, or a guitar in the background. I noticed that maybe 30 minutes in. Once you notice you can't stop.
“I’m Not There” is an incredible Bob Dylan movie that breaks free of the typical biopic trappings
Finally you drop some vids!!! You have a lot more movies to do so please make more! Nosferatu, Heretic etc.
Possible Best Actor nomination for Timothee Chalamet, perhaps?!
It would be more shocking if Tim wasn’t nominated
why, he was horrible
I know this is 'A Complete Unknown', but I loved Sonic The Hedgehog 3 in theaters. It has plesantly surprised me for a video game adaptation that rarely gets a third great movie with the adaptation of Sonic Adventure 2 from the Sega Dreamcast & Shadow The Hedgehog meanwhile..
SPOILERS:
I loved Gerald & Ivo Robotnik's dance scene with The Chemical Brothers as Jim Carrey can play two characters very well to the final battle with both Robotnik's vs Team Sonic & Shadow where Sonic & Shadow became both Super Sonic & Super Shadow to stop the chaos energy to end the world. It brought a great ending to the trilogy but starts a new chapter with... METAL SONIC & Amy Rose.
Even though I agree with you, Jim Carrey(‘s) were FABULOUS and Sonic 3 was better than it had any right to be. . .
Sir, this is a WENDY’S!
Really don’t like just labelling films as Oscar bait, by that metric any big actor that acts in a biopic is just doing it in hopes of having a good award season. It’s annoying bc it means good biopics are just thrown away by this label.
You really nailed this review.
I liked Edward Norton, Elle Fanning, the Joan Baez actress, Scoot McNairy, and Boyd Holbrook.
I’m surprised Karsten didn’t bring up I’m Not There, one of my faves
I would have preferred a Dylan film focusing on the time right before his 66 motorcycle crash and the time after at Big Pink, as he recovers. More room for interpretation and a more intimate setting. The going electric era is just so mined already.
What an eerie impression of Cate Blanchett. Not only did he get her mannerisms, voice, and style spot on, his natural demeanor creates an even more effiminized Dylan than Cate did - as he overcompensates for his lack of gravity by failing in his period targeting leers to even capture a James Dean impression, let alone the out-of-step authorship of Dylan that compelled a generation.
Can't wait to see this guy in the Arnold Schwartzennager biography. He'll surely be able to bench 500 lbs as neatly as he can pinch out an authentically gravelly Dylan tone.
Casting actors who've never eaten a real life punch, & who have the salt of 5th Avenue aesthete, is surely the best choice for screening the biographies of organically hardened historical artists.
Yap final boss
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A fantastic review ! Couldn’t agree more
I'm with you in that there are so few biopics that I really enjoy, but this does have my interest for the main performance alone.
My favorite biopic probably is Oppenheimer. Elvis was a vibe, too. Do movies like Braveheart or The King count? Yeah, they're big fictionalizations of real events, but so are most traditionally labeled biopics, so I'm cheating and counting them. If they count, then those are my picks. If they don't count, then take it as a statement about my general enthusiasm toward most traditional biopics. I suppose another, more conventional contender would be Darkest Hour. Gary Oldman kills it as always.
I watched the Nardwuar video with Timothée Chalamet. I don’t even know him that well, I never watched Dune, but I could tell that he was really into Bob Dylan story. He did his research and he dedicated himself to him and I really respect that. It doesn’t seem like a lot of people do that for biopics so that really solidified him for me.
As long as a biopic doesn't look like a worse parody of Walk Hard I'll probably watch it.
Having grown up in the sixties and having a front row seat to the rise of Bob Dylan, I can honestly say that this movie did a good job.
After watching the 2022 oversylized, over-the-top, Elvis movie, It was refreshing to see some understated and subtle production in a bio-pic movie.
The title of this video made me think you were going to compare the movie to his actual life but you just made a review of a biopic
Thank you for the review, I will see this when it comes to the UK, but like others in the comments, I'd be very interested to know your thoughts on the Todd Haynes experimental biopic on Dylan "I'm Not There" with Cate Blanchett playing the role of Dylan in this era. Very interested indeed.
Safe is the best word to describe mangold. Him and Ron Howard feel like diet Spielberg.
I'm not sure I would've necessarily called Logan safe, but that tracks with just about everything else I've seen from him, not that I think this is inherently a bad thing, mind you.
@@Tyler_WLogan was EXTREMELY SAFE, SON!
For a moment i thought you just called Folk as a whole uninspired lol. Then i realized you ment Biopics.
DAE think all modern music biopics are just Walk Hard without the jokes? (Unless I like it.)
I was never a big Dylan fan, but I loved the film and came to appreciate his importance and achievements within the music industry. Chalemet’s performance is on par with Val Kilmer’s in the 1991 Doors biopic. He completely inhabits the skin of Bob Dylan.
This is a pretty crazy review, so your opinion basically is that a lot of biopics but specially musical biopics are very safe and by the books and even mediocre, and this is structured just like one of those, but Bob Dylan and Timothée chalamet are just simply too goated not to shine? Like Boyb Dylan is so interesting and great and Timothée is trying to do something worthwhile and the movie is about that so it kind of saves it??????
This feels like the only worthwhile comment in this whole comment section
yeah you pretty much just summarized his review
I thought it was fine. One time watch.
Can't wait for mangolds swamp thing
All I can think of is Dewey Cox
The wrong kid died
Great video! What’s the melody on the background? 😊 It’s so soft and graceful.
Walk Hard is the end-all be-all of music biopics. That said,‘I’m looking forward to seeing this if not only for Johnny Cash.
Cash needs another movie about his life because Mangold missed a lot with Walk the Line.
Timmy and Karsten could pass as 2nd cousins no doubt
where do you get your background music
On god
“You’re kind of an asshole, Bob” yet somehow Joan Baez falls in love with him. That’s Dylan. He is always becoming and in the process leaving his fans of the moment behind. We get the hint of this when he’s riding in Seegar’s VW tuning the radio onto Little Richard, the complete antithesis of what Seegar and the folk movement were. Dylan’s art is his thing, moreso than any other person, particularly women (I’m Not There dives into his misogyny far better but you can see it here if you look). I saw Dylan in a concert in Shreveport last year. Most people came to revisit their own personal Dylan. What they got is who he is today, whoever that is. The movie is as revealing of our own choice to grasp a moment that’s already passed as it is of Dylan’s inherent asshole tendencies. Those two things feed on each other. I thought it was good and one I need to probe into more.
Haven't seen it, but from what I observe based on scenes and trailer, they get the dynamic between Baez and Dylan wrong. They try to make her seem more rough edged and independent than she actually was. She was completely attached and in love with Bob. But the movie seems to make it look like they were on equal footing in that regard.
Also, they got the harmonica holder wrong. It doesn't look like Bob's original one. Perhaps they couldn't track it down.
curious why you have this take on their relationship when diamonds and rust is a pretty famous song detailing her frustrations with him and the relationship? i don't really see her as completely one-dimensionally smitten with him, at least not for long. the movie's great you should watch it. it digs into what some of their creative and personal differences were
@@sonny423 I saw it. I'm not saying it was a one-dimensional thing. But she fell more for him than he for her. And although Baez is a strong person in her own right, she wasn't as 'rough-edged' as the movie makes her appear. She's admitted it several times. Bob was the only one she ever truly loved. Bob was never in love with her. And that song of course is through her own subjective view on her experience. That said, I believe he felt very close to her.
What was your beef with Mangold?
The best movie about Bob Dylan will always be I'm Not There, (2007) which completely goes against the typical biopic formula by instead of telling Bob Dylan's story directly, it shows the different aspects of his music, career, and life through different stories/characters/actors
Honestly, they might as well call this The Emotional Truth That Resides In Bob Dylan. Is it accurate all the time? NOPE. But it sure does a great job of giving you a good idea about his headspace and how he just tornado'd so much in a short period of time.
edit: also the singing was fantastic, but I would have loved to see more acting acting.
Thanks for your opinion on "musical biopics"... Now review the movie called A Complete Unknown...
This is my favorite out of the:
Queen
Elvis
Elton John etc
This film felt the most real and honest. Couldnt stand the Elvis film and I'm a huge Elvis fan. Felt like one long commercial.
This film with Dylan was epic and grounded.
@Karsten you need to rewatch Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead mans chest. You gave it 2 stars and the fact that the action is as insane as Mad Max: Fury Road, but it isnt list food like it, means you need to rewatch it
i walked out pissed. such a waste, but the writing was horrible. they bring up the name "zimmerman" once then never get back into it. his songs are just randomly sprinkled everywhere. the very opening with the folk song playing brought tears to my eyes, but then it never reallt built up to anything. when i first hear timothee chalamet was playing him, I was dissapointed, but then the trailers got me super excited. then the actual movie... what a let down
He’s too good for this movie guys
Brownface in big 2024 instead of casting an actual morena latina actress for Joan Baez is insane tho
Karsten,I looked the screen fast qnd for a second I thoight ypu were dressed up like the dude from The Polar Express LMAO
Just saw the movie had a couple of thoughts, First I agree with you completely with the topic of the film which is the most overt tread. But but what's that being said? I think that it was very much appropriate if at least you want to get mainstream audiences interested in Dylan, but I think one of the biggest things and glaring problems. The film is that Timothy is just way too old to be playing. This error of Dylan sends. One thing that is prominent about Dylan during this time is as beautifulness and not saying the Timmy looks old, but he certainly isn't. The Spring chicken that you would have been 4 years ago when the movie was originally casted, but with that being said, i thought he was very convincing in the move with it being it clear that he not only capturing this era but all of dylan. What I very much loved about the film is that it just shows so much love for Dylan's music period now, when I first heard the recordings of the song that they had put on for the trailers, I was initially worried since I kinda just sounded like. They were putting on the voice but when you listen to the context of the movie, not Only is the audio near Perfect but as well as the performances Feel authentic and not forced like some other biopics, and Finally overall, I think that the movie shows a love and appreciation For Now Only Dylan but also this PERIOD of time so. I think that it makes up for its shortcomings very much with a simple fact
I saw the movie 2x. I can’t say enough accolades Chalamet was phenomenal
Films bros in the comments are gonna attack me but Rocketman is the best biopic because music should contribute to the story. Biopics should be a musical. ITS MORE ENTERTAINING!
I am biased though, as a theatre kid.
I mean even though Sylvie character is fictional for his Girlfriend at that time but I felt really bad for what Bob did to her and the story kept repeating at a stage and felt a bit long. Apart than that I agree Timmy made the movie captivating to see.
If James Mangold directs it, I’ll definitely give it a chance
As a fellow Minnesota boy the Hibbing Highschool post card was much appreciated. Even though Hibbing does suck, Robbert Zimmerman is right about that one.
I respect the fact he basically said "I'm an asshole who ruined everything."
You do know the girls real name was suze rotolo
No mention of Ed Norton as Pete Seegar c'mon he was great . Agreed Monica Barbaro was phenomenal in the film and yes Chalamet was great.
I’m in my 20s and Idk much about bob dylan but I wished the movie showed more his electric era
The women made this movie bearable. Great performances from Monica Barbaro and Elle Fanning. Barbaro being a hottie is just the cherry on top.
what are your thoughts on "I'm Not There", the 2007 Bob Dylan biopic?
Who is this Suzie Russo? I always thought her name was Rotello.
Frustrating that not many people seem to be aware the best version of this story already exists. I'm Not There is the complete antidote to conventional Hollywood wikipedia skim biopics. It's an experimental take on the 'idea' of Dylan's mystique and iconography, split across numerous actors in an attempt to understand a musician thats's somewhat unknowable. It's an epic film that goes against cliche and is definitely worth a watch.
Yeah no, i refuse to compare. Also, LOL! Directors name is Mangled haha
saw the movie on the 24th in the theater
What’s the song in the background?
MN boys stand up !!!!
Karsten the bg music in this vid was so good I listened to your ad bc I wanted to hear more of it could someone prithee ID the tracks
I thought it was pretty good. Like Bob Dylan or not his songs are immortal.
i straight notice how Timothee slouch forward like how Bob Dylan tries to inconspicuously avoid the cameras 😁
Yeah, it was a pretty good movie
Ayo, I didn’t know you were Minnesotan?? I’m Minnesotan
I didn't know you're Minnesotan
The movie about dylan that is less conventional and talks about being an artist and how that change your identity allready exosts, its im not there
I don't think this film will be bad and I really like James Mangold's "Walk the Line", but it's existence just irritates me. Just tired of Hollywood greenlighting another musical biopic that will never capture the whole scope of an artist life while wasting good cast on a web search.
It does remind me that I have to watch "I'm Not There". Might not be accurate, might even suck, but it at least doesn't pretend to be accurate, just illustrate.
istg if you don't watch Better Man aka Dawn of the Rise of the Planet of the Robbies for Monkey Mondays imma be a lil devo
incredible
Ugh, if only it wasn't about Bob Dylan I'd go see it
I deeply suspect anyone using minors to speak on behalf of their interests.