The deeper analysis of the movie revolves around concepts and ideas that have nothing to do with whales or whaling. Melville melded the esoteric and biblical with traits unique to Americans. The biblical character of Ishmael begs further attention. Consider Mr Starbuck, a quaker with capitalist motives who quarrels with Ahab's idealism. The harpooneers are all native Americans, islanders or former slaves. The Pequod itself becomes representative of America.
It seemed to be an analysis of the oligarchical banking system over mankind in general. It may have been America, but there are no distinct connections as such that I saw (I didn't look very closely). The Quequeg character does seem reminiscent of the ancient Irish with an almost "royal" sense of loyalty and weakness for human fellowship (the longing of the soul for adventure and fulfillment?). I'd heard that the ship Pequod was a symbol of the human soul. I won't attempt to distort the symbolism further.
I was astounded to learn the true story behind the novel in High School-really intrigued me to go back and read the classic plus the book "In The Heart of The Sea." The Ron Howard film was amazing in my opinion while it took a few liberties with history and the trials of the survivors after the 'Essex' sank. Nevertheless the true story is one of the most phenomenal, heart-wrenching and chilling survival stories that's ever occurred.
For those interested in this subject, read Heart of the Sea. This Presentation is just a thumbnail sketch. There are many interesting details in the book.
Even back then, whaling was a wasteful enterprise. To give you guys a sobering statistic, in the early nineteenth century the common whale species that kept the industry going were getting so depleted that a ban on harvesting the Bowhead and the Right Whale (Called that way because of being the "Right whale" to hunt) was instated. But that also meant that the whalers had to look at what they considered to be the lesser whale species, the Gray Whale, which not only produced lesser quantities of whale oil but very different from the Bowhead or Right whales would actually get violent and would attack the boats. Gray whales were so ferocious that the Whalers nicknamed them "Devil fish" Pelagic whaling became increasingly difficult to do because of coastal whale stocks having been virtually wiped out completely. A solution came when Whalers learned of huge stocks of whales still available in the great oceans which is why those great voyages that Melville talks about took place. Crews would be at sea for months on end. But at the end of the nineteenth century, two things happened: the first was that the explosive harpoon and the harpooning cannon were invented, the second was the invention of the steam powered ship. All of a sudden the Rorqual whale species like the Humpback, the Finwhale and the Blue whale were in reach and the whaling industry was rejuvenated. But already in 1920 the alarm was sounded, the whalers once again had depleted the stocks to such a degree that it wasn't sustainable. Throughout all of this, the Sperm whale had been a fail safe measure, for example in Australia, when during the sixties, the Humpback was near extinction, the whalers switched back to the Sperm whale since they knew what it yielded. There's a documentary about shark research shot in the seventies where the research crew is on board a harpooning ship to dive into the blood filled water to study the sharks attracted to the dead whale. We see the sperm whale just after it had been harpooned thrashing and one of the researchers quipping "So sad, we know so little about them and by the time we want to know they'll be extinct." In biology books from the eighties, the bleak assumption had been made that the Sperm whale would be extinct in 1990. We are VERY fortunate that they're still around.
I can recommend the book "The Heart of the Sea" by Nathaniel Philbrick.....goes into full detail of the whole amazing story and what life was like for this incredible community of unique people on Nantucket island back then.
Clydebear, yes, it’s a great book! I've read it more than once. It's a pity that Ron Howard's movie which is an adaptation of Philbrick's book and Thomas Nickerson's documents, isn't very good. Chris Hemsworth is Owen Chase, and while I like Chris Hemsworth, he was miscast. And unfortunately the CGI whale attack isn't great. This is really a lost opportunity. This project had potential. Ron Howard should have used much more of the wealth of knowledge gathered by Philbrick instead of doing a standard Hollywood movie.
Those territorial whales are dangerous specially around mating season. During My naval career I seen Hump backs and Sperm whales attack anything in the water during their mating. anything in the water are subject to be attacked. Great video thank you for sharing this. Frankie Day
Yes they can bite, lock jaws, and thrash with their tails. The only thing they have never been observed to do is ram - except against whaleships and whaleboats. Odd 'coincidence' that.
When I went to Alaska on a cruise liner, we also went whale what hung but instead of seeing whales we saw Killer whales, A whole family of them it was really exciting. And we also saw , humpback whales it was a fantastic trip to Alaska,
Ever wonder why it is when you see footage of whaling, that after the whale is killed and brought up to the side of boat, the crew cut the flukes of the tail off? The official reason is for ease of transport, but actually it's a bit of superstition because whalers used to refer a whale's flukes as "the Hand of God" which could crush boats with a single swipe. So to in effect diffuse a bomb, the first thing the whalers do is cut the flukes so the "hand of God" can't do them any harm.
@@asifmetal666 Yeah it seems the world belongs to cruel people. I find it strange that animals that is regarded below humans are better at bonding with each other and find a way to live peacefully with each other. They seem to find somekind of balance while humans tend to want to dominate everything allthough it doesn´t make them happier. The most worrying thing is that women now also has begun to show this tendency. Once they were the ones to make men come to their senses when they were wrong about something.
Interesting. Thanks for posting. Incidentally, a third boat was found but it contain three skeletons. It was believed to be the remaining boat from the Essex.
Someone should make a Moby Dick movie that is more like this documentary. The movie versions are all good in their different ways but this one just feels more...real. And imaginative/creative/etc. too at the same time.
I have and idea what about leaving this world for a better good? No people no problem hmm? Or you like jut point your little fingers to others? Just disappear and fish, chicken will be saved.
It's really astounding how people watching In the Heart of the Sea didn't realize it was related to a true story. I mean damn the character of Herman Melville was in the movie interviewing the former cabin boy about it and even mentioned his novel Moby Dick and folk still didn't get it. Seems to me there is an I.Q. problem going on
Author/adventurer Tim Severin wrote a book 'In Search of Moby Dick: Quest for the White Whale' where he visited Nuka Hiva and several other whaling communities around the world, where he found some elders that had knowledge of white sperm whales. They are said to be rare, old bulls, that have a violent attitude compared the usual bulls and are protective of the pods. Not one of his best books but worth looking into if you have an interest in Melville, and the story of the Essex
I heard this story of the Essex several times. I have to say this is one of the worst disasters in history, probably worse than Titanic sinking because on the Titanic, just 1,500 people died and survivors are rescued. While after on the Essex, everyone survives the sinking and eventually run out of food, they resort cannibalism to survive before being rescued.
And now his body parts is being teared from his body..that disgusts me so much...Now all of us look up to Moby and say How Could They Do That To You Just How,You Could Live A Happy Life But They Just Ruined It For Ya, I'm Sorry Moby Dick!😢
It was the times. Their need of oil our weight the morality of the whale im sure some if not all of the whaleser. Felt remorse of taking a life of a whale
@@negativefreeroll5089actually animals get a long with each other all the time, it’s called either a Symbiotic relationship or a Mutualistic relationship… one could even argue that wild animals get along with each other better than humans do. I don’t see squirrels driving tanks around…
Captain Ahab, Pequod and the epic tortures of the unfathomable darkness of Moby Dick; Captain Shackleton, Endurance and the epic tortures of the unfathomable darkness of the Arctic. Of the two captains, Shackleton was gifted with the steadfast grace to be given redemption. Melville would have remarked on the equal justice given each.
+enrico catao ..... ............................... heird this monday on the howard stern show this movie : IN THE HEART OFF THE SEE costed 100 million to make ....... and IT TOTALLY FLOPPED AT THE BOX OFFICE ... howard sais he feels bad for the producer of the movie because he's an old friend ... dont remember his name but he's one of the actors of the tv show ( happy days ) .... maybe just like the book flopped in it's day then later became popular ... so to will this movie become popular as years go by .....
An okay flick, but not one of Opie's best. Certainly no Apollo 13. The part where they sent the poor Cabin Boy into the whale's head sure was gross. But hey, they DID do that sometimes.
Captain Ahab, Pequod and the epic tortures of the unfathomable darkness of Moby Dick; Captain Shackleton, Endurance and the epic tortures of the unfathomable darkness of the Arctic. Of the two captains, Shackleton was gifted with the steadfast grace to be given redemption. Melville would have remarked on the equal justice given each.
So Pollard loses his ship, most of his crew, and resorts and cannibalism, but still gets to Captain another ship? Dang, what do you have to do to get fired from being a sea Captain in Nantucket?
The way this works all comes down to catching the whales at their downtime, you see for whales breathing is no reflex movement, it's a conscious effort which is also why they can hold their breath for so long, so they replenish their energy and air supply. Apart from that downtime, a Sperm whale actually spends very little time at the surface of the water. So the whalers learned to get them at that very small time frame they had. Also and this is also the reason why whale species such as the Humpback and the Finwhale weren't being hunted at the time, a Sperm whale is not heavier than water, so it floats when killed.
The theological implications mentioned by the guest narrator near the end would have been morally devastating to those men on the boats, especially during their last moments of suffering. Robinson Crusoe - Thank God! - did'nt have to kill and eat Friday.
Learned more about whaling than I wanted to know. Horrible!! The cannibalism is just...can’t think of a word worse enough to describe it! Made me ill to think about it!
+shark zahar friend - Unless I'm misunderstanding you, (Your writing is very bad.) the film did NOT inspire the novel. The novel was published in 1851...long before there was any such thing as film. If you mean that the film is inspiring you to read the novel...good for you.
+MAT T I thought the best of the movie was AFTER the whale. I mean ignoring the silliness of it following them, stalking them. When the men were on the boat, when it cuts back to Nickerson struggling to get the story out and his wife telling him she would love him regardless of the nasty deeds he had been forced to carry out. Such a moving scene. The early parts of the movie were boring, and silly, and far too focused on Thor. Just because he is Thor basically he had to be the lead, even though he wasn't telling the story and was really a bit of a tit in the film.
The tone of the film was totally wrong, compared to this doc. The movie made the Captain out to be a 1%ter Evil Steretype(Till the end that only furthers this bullshit message) and the 1st mate as the good leader. When actually it was the Evil, "I Don't care what peasants think" Stereotype who backed down and went against his own decisions because he obviously didn't have the balls(The Evil Balls) To tell Chase "NO". if the captain would have done what he thought was best, they never would have ended up in the mess, Which he did bowed down to his will more than once. Movie basically just become divisive propaganda at this point.
Okay.. So what I've been watching on In The Heart Of The Sea was based on a true story ..? WOW I didn't realised it omg and this is an amazing and incredible true story .__.
. . . Only, in Ron Howard's "In The Heart Of The Sea".....the Essex didn't go down with whale oil explosions (stupid).....she capsized and sank after drifting on her side for a couple of days...allowing crew to further provision their whaleboats.....Plus....the sperm whale never followed and harassed the survivors' boats, as implied in the movie. (again, stupid.)
After the early squall that flipped her over on her side, Pollard wanted to return to Nantucket, but was convinced otherwise...and they provisioned at Cape Verde, for repairs and to obtain replacement whaleboats....illustrating further Pollards weakness as captain.
I think it’s worth noting that back in those days, Captains had to be careful what orders to give as choosing an unpopular opinion runs the risk of mutiny… and at best, mutinies resulted in the captain (and potentially those idling with the captain) forced into a spare row boat and set adrift… at worse, death. I think that the captain in this case was well aware that his men could mutiny against him should he make the wrong decision. Ironically, he made the wrong decisions.
I tried reading Moby Dick but couldn't get into it. I did read In The Heart Of The Sea, though. I'm related to the Folgers, Starbucks, Coffins, Swains, and maybe the Gardners, of Nantucket. Gayer Starbuck and Rachel Folger are my 6x great grandparents.
publishing industry along with audio visual has gone through drastic changes as the online internet has taken over public interest, conventional publishing is reduced but same can be published online portals meant for online publishing like kindle, only Nations still not that connected everywhere, have still readership in conventional paper ink printing or theatre going... well, that paper ink can be converted into paper notes and used for public help and support, whereas online publishing and readerships are going to increase.
First off, why in the world did he say "nothing is known about the whale that sank the Essex"? It was found several years later and harpooned to death. In Reynolds' account, Mocha Dick was killed in 1838, after he appeared to come to the aid of a distraught cow whose calf had just been slain by the whalers. His body was 70 feet long and yielded 100 barrels of oil, along with some ambergris-a substance used in the making of perfumes and at times worth more per ounce than gold. He also had twenty harpoons in his body.
@reyganbriggs, the story of Mocha Dick is indeed very interesting. But it's not at all certain that Mocha Dick was the whale who destroyed the Essex. The crew of the Essex didn't get a good look at the whale who attacked them, and no one saw something which could've been a distinguishing mark. They just saw that the whale was huge! But he wasn't an albino whale. Philbrick actually said that over time the behavior of the male sperm whales changed. They started to be more aggressive towards the mother ships, as if they had figured out the origins of the beings who attacked and slaughtered them. It's hard to say what was going on since the behavior of sperm whales is still not completely understood, and today they aren't under attack anymore.
lmao , with the closed captioning on , @ 3:30 when she said "was lubrication" , somehow that showed up as "Muslim vacation" ....CC is useless but hilarious , ;) Come to think of it , 'Muslim vacation' is probably an allegory for a whaling voyage.....they're both trips you wouldn't want to go on , lol;)
+tarwagon This is tooooo funny - "muslim Vacation". I hate it when they try to make/let machines and electronics think for us! The coincidence for me was that I texted a friend yesterday that I had "gone straight home after going to IGA" [a grocery store]. I didn't notice that the brain in my phone changed IGA to "Uganda". My friend asked if I had a nice trip??!! then I saw it. That might have been a muslim vacation... :-))
As a matter of fact, wood lasts longer under water than steel. The salt of the ocean causes the metal to rust away fairly soon. These beginners didn't know where the hell they were.
I hate when documentaries try to judge history by modern moral standards. Just tell the history and why things happened without judging people of the past. It makes history experts seem like the don't understand history at all.
..yip ..so Moby Dick over time sat and watched his family members being murdered ..the sights ..noise ..the missing !! ..yeah i get it ..rest in peace " old friend " ..from New Zealand
Not a chance America, it's one of Britain's favourites too, as I grew up reading and watching it on TV with my parents and now our children. Although some version's are frightening for kid's.
The movie of Moby dick with Gregory Peck woke up my interest to watch this documentary. I find this story horrible and very Scary, I can't believe this is based in a true story
It was a rogue male Sperm whale (Owen Chase's narrative says just that...as well as Nickerson's writings on the incident, as well)....Grey's are much smaller. Greys do not dive for squid....Greys are a baleen whale, that feed on krill, shrimp and baitfish.....Sperms are toothed whales....hunting larger prey, including giant squid, as well as Humboldts.
Lungs aren't sacks like balloons; they're spongy and extremely buoyant even when cut into small pieces. Plus, blubber, which is basically just fat/oil, is also highly buoyant. A whale ain't sinking
Ironic how they avoid Tahiti and those islands because of untrue rumours about cannibalism, then as a result, have to resort to cannibalism themselves
Oh my gosh
The auto corrector has struck again and changed
Watching to
What hung
Lol
DolleHengst Actually first it was "moronic" then it was "ironic".
seth_popcorn chicken the story of money dick huh?
@@Holy_hand-grenade thar she blows
I wonder if it tastes like chicken?
I just finished In the Heart of the Sea and came here to watch this!
+Bruno Nascimento Dias Same here.
+Bruno Nascimento They got rid of many things from the movie including Chase becoming insane, to make it look good.
same
Me too.! 🐳
yeah me too
The deeper analysis of the movie revolves around concepts and ideas that have nothing to do with whales or whaling. Melville melded the esoteric and biblical with traits unique to Americans. The biblical character of Ishmael begs further attention. Consider Mr Starbuck, a quaker with capitalist motives who quarrels with Ahab's idealism. The harpooneers are all native Americans, islanders or former slaves. The Pequod itself becomes representative of America.
Don't quit your day gig, Fritz.
...STARBUCK'S...the coffee shop of america...big on "bucks"...
Americans didn't exist when the book was written.
It seemed to be an analysis of the oligarchical banking system over mankind in general. It may have been America, but there are no distinct connections as such that I saw (I didn't look very closely). The Quequeg character does seem reminiscent of the ancient Irish with an almost "royal" sense of loyalty and weakness for human fellowship (the longing of the soul for adventure and fulfillment?). I'd heard that the ship Pequod was a symbol of the human soul. I won't attempt to distort the symbolism further.
Astounding true story! 'Ordeal' is an understatement for what these men went through. Beyond dramatic.
...you've ever been alone in the middle of nowhere with nothing???
...Charles Darwin said it best..."The Origin..."
@@georgeviau4558 the fake british idea. Lol
One of the greatest story EVER told
I was astounded to learn the true story behind the novel in High School-really intrigued me to go back and read the classic plus the book "In The Heart of The Sea." The Ron Howard film was amazing in my opinion while it took a few liberties with history and the trials of the survivors after the 'Essex' sank. Nevertheless the true story is one of the most phenomenal, heart-wrenching and chilling survival stories that's ever occurred.
For those interested in this subject, read Heart of the Sea. This Presentation is just a thumbnail sketch. There are many interesting details in the book.
As with Shakespeare's plays Moby Dick is full of morality lessons. "But Ahab needn't fear Starbuck. Let Ahab beware Ahab! Beware thyself, Captain!"
been waiting to see this show up online, great documentary.
Even back then, whaling was a wasteful enterprise. To give you guys a sobering statistic, in the early nineteenth century the common whale species that kept the industry going were getting so depleted that a ban on harvesting the Bowhead and the Right Whale (Called that way because of being the "Right whale" to hunt) was instated.
But that also meant that the whalers had to look at what they considered to be the lesser whale species, the Gray Whale, which not only produced lesser quantities of whale oil but very different from the Bowhead or Right whales would actually get violent and would attack the boats. Gray whales were so ferocious that the Whalers nicknamed them "Devil fish"
Pelagic whaling became increasingly difficult to do because of coastal whale stocks having been virtually wiped out completely. A solution came when Whalers learned of huge stocks of whales still available in the great oceans which is why those great voyages that Melville talks about took place. Crews would be at sea for months on end.
But at the end of the nineteenth century, two things happened: the first was that the explosive harpoon and the harpooning cannon were invented, the second was the invention of the steam powered ship.
All of a sudden the Rorqual whale species like the Humpback, the Finwhale and the Blue whale were in reach and the whaling industry was rejuvenated. But already in 1920 the alarm was sounded, the whalers once again had depleted the stocks to such a degree that it wasn't sustainable.
Throughout all of this, the Sperm whale had been a fail safe measure, for example in Australia, when during the sixties, the Humpback was near extinction, the whalers switched back to the Sperm whale since they knew what it yielded.
There's a documentary about shark research shot in the seventies where the research crew is on board a harpooning ship to dive into the blood filled water to study the sharks attracted to the dead whale. We see the sperm whale just after it had been harpooned thrashing and one of the researchers quipping "So sad, we know so little about them and by the time we want to know they'll be extinct."
In biology books from the eighties, the bleak assumption had been made that the Sperm whale would be extinct in 1990. We are VERY fortunate that they're still around.
yeah.. we already long time living under water i heard that many times
damn when nature bites back it bites back HARD
there were some more ships sunk by whale not only essex.
I can recommend the book "The Heart of the Sea" by Nathaniel Philbrick.....goes into full detail of the whole amazing story and what life was like for this incredible community of unique people on Nantucket island back then.
Clydebear, yes, it’s a great book! I've read it more than once. It's a pity that Ron Howard's movie which is an adaptation of Philbrick's book and Thomas Nickerson's documents, isn't very good. Chris Hemsworth is Owen Chase, and while I like Chris Hemsworth, he was miscast. And unfortunately the CGI whale attack isn't great. This is really a lost opportunity. This project had potential. Ron Howard should have used much more of the wealth of knowledge gathered by Philbrick instead of doing a standard Hollywood movie.
Agree one of the best books I have ever red..
It was a completly different way of life back then..Quite a insight 🙂
Those territorial whales are dangerous specially around mating season. During My naval career I seen Hump backs and Sperm whales attack anything in the water during their mating. anything in the water are subject to be attacked. Great video thank you for sharing this.
Frankie Day
Yes they can bite, lock jaws, and thrash with their tails. The only thing they have never been observed to do is ram - except against whaleships and whaleboats. Odd 'coincidence' that.
Yes this correct Rob Like the old whaling ship Essex. She was rammed and sunk by a 80 foot sperm whale.
When I went to Alaska on a cruise liner, we also went whale what hung but instead of seeing whales we saw Killer whales,
A whole family of them it was really exciting. And we also saw , humpback whales it was a fantastic trip to Alaska,
Ever wonder why it is when you see footage of whaling, that after the whale is killed and brought up to the side of boat, the crew cut the flukes of the tail off?
The official reason is for ease of transport, but actually it's a bit of superstition because whalers used to refer a whale's flukes as "the Hand of God" which could crush boats with a single swipe. So to in effect diffuse a bomb, the first thing the whalers do is cut the flukes so the "hand of God" can't do them any harm.
life was a nightmare back those times.
we r living in heaven if I have to compare
I hope we someday reach a point in evolution where we don´t have to be cruel anymore...
@@renehenriksen1735 it's a dream of anyone. But I don't see that happen. Strong n sociopath will feed on the weak n kind hearted people.
@@asifmetal666 Yeah it seems the world belongs to cruel people. I find it strange that animals that is regarded below humans are better at bonding with each other and find a way to live peacefully with each other. They seem to find somekind of balance while humans tend to want to dominate everything allthough it doesn´t make them happier. The most worrying thing is that women now also has begun to show this tendency. Once they were the ones to make men come to their senses when they were wrong about something.
But the good old days...
No, I’m kidding. I agree completely.
Hi, I’m writing from 2020. I wonder if you still feel the same about that comment?
I guess staying on that island was a hell of a lot nicer
I’ll take sushi and berries with fresh water at low tide over shooting my buddy in the back of the head and eating him, but I really like berries.
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EXCELLENT Documentary!
Thank You for Uploading it
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
Incidentally, a third boat was found but it contain three skeletons. It was believed to be the remaining boat from the Essex.
Damn nature, you scary.
Natures not scary , we are , we are the ones who torture the whales .
+Amanda Then true did you see the guy trying to hit the whale!!
+Amanda Then you can torture my moby if you want
+tachikoma747 Damn Family Guy, you ain't funny.
+tachikoma747 Took the words right outta me mouth.
Wow, thanks for uploading. Really pretty good film!
Someone should make a Moby Dick movie that is more like this documentary.
The movie versions are all good in their different ways but this one just feels more...real.
And imaginative/creative/etc. too at the same time.
Such gracious creatures. To be killed so cruel. People are the monsters not animals of any nature
I have and idea what about leaving this world for a better good? No people no problem hmm? Or you like jut point your little fingers to others? Just disappear and fish, chicken will be saved.
“I see humans but no humanity.”
Humans being humans is Humanity.
It's really astounding how people watching In the Heart of the Sea didn't realize it was related to a true story. I mean damn the character of Herman Melville was in the movie interviewing the former cabin boy about it and even mentioned his novel Moby Dick and folk still didn't get it. Seems to me there is an I.Q. problem going on
Look at the morons you elect for president and you ll see that an informed electorate is the last thing the white men who OWN your cuntry want
You got that in English brev
28:59
A belated Whoagh! - Great doc..
Narration and cinematography - a big plus.
Luved it ...Thank you for the sharing..Greetings from Australia..
Author/adventurer Tim Severin wrote a book 'In Search of Moby Dick: Quest for the White Whale' where he visited Nuka Hiva and several other whaling communities around the world, where he found some elders that had knowledge of white sperm whales. They are said to be rare, old bulls, that have a violent attitude compared the usual bulls and are protective of the pods.
Not one of his best books but worth looking into if you have an interest in Melville, and the story of the Essex
I heard this story of the Essex several times. I have to say this is one of the worst disasters in history, probably worse than Titanic sinking because on the Titanic, just 1,500 people died and survivors are rescued. While after on the Essex, everyone survives the sinking and eventually run out of food, they resort cannibalism to survive before being rescued.
And now his body parts is being teared from his body..that disgusts me so much...Now all of us look up to Moby and say How Could They Do That To You Just How,You Could Live A Happy Life But They Just Ruined It For Ya, I'm Sorry Moby Dick!😢
What do you think animals do in nature? They don’t get along I can tell you that right now.
@Dick Johnson lol
It was the times. Their need of oil our weight the morality of the whale im sure some if not all of the whaleser. Felt remorse of taking a life of a whale
@@negativefreeroll5089actually animals get a long with each other all the time, it’s called either a Symbiotic relationship or a Mutualistic relationship… one could even argue that wild animals get along with each other better than humans do. I don’t see squirrels driving tanks around…
I think only Shackleton's Endurance Expedition and USA Jeannetta Expedition can be comparable stories.
Captain Ahab, Pequod and the epic tortures of the unfathomable darkness of Moby Dick; Captain Shackleton, Endurance and the epic tortures of the unfathomable darkness of the Arctic. Of the two captains, Shackleton was gifted with the steadfast grace to be given redemption. Melville would have remarked on the equal justice given each.
@@jpx1508 you mean captain Pollard? Because Ahab is a fictional character.
@@jpx1508 also as I said, Jeanette expedition and Karluk expedition are another epic survival stories, as well as Swedish Antarctic expedition.
22:30 All I could think at that moment was that the hunter has become the hunted.
Gee - what an original concept.
always thought this was an ENGLISH NOVEL OF LITERATURE ......
now i'm surprised to learn it's an american book based on a true story .....
Lol anything american is stolen, or a flat out lie.
@@corpratexthuggn89 like freedom?
@Dick Johnson 😂 wtf are u talking bout...nervous break down
In The Heart of the Sea..
+enrico catao .....
............................... heird this monday on the howard stern show this movie :
IN THE HEART OFF THE SEE
costed 100 million to make ....... and IT TOTALLY FLOPPED AT THE BOX OFFICE ...
howard sais he feels bad for the producer of the movie because he's an old friend ... dont remember his name but he's one of the actors of the tv show ( happy days ) .... maybe just like the book flopped in it's day then later became popular ... so to will this movie become popular as years go by .....
+steve00055 it was a fictional movie and Thor kind of sucked yeah? can't imagine it will ever become a classic.
An okay flick, but not one of Opie's best. Certainly no Apollo 13. The part where they sent the poor Cabin Boy into the whale's head sure was gross. But hey, they DID do that sometimes.
Captain Ahab, Pequod and the epic tortures of the unfathomable darkness of Moby Dick; Captain Shackleton, Endurance and the epic tortures of the unfathomable darkness of the Arctic. Of the two captains, Shackleton was gifted with the steadfast grace to be given redemption. Melville would have remarked on the equal justice given each.
So Pollard loses his ship, most of his crew, and resorts and cannibalism, but still gets to Captain another ship? Dang, what do you have to do to get fired from being a sea Captain in Nantucket?
Do it a second time! Cannibalism is ok but dont lose a second ship like he did a year later.
Crash another ship🤣
In The Heart of The Sea brought me here!
How did whaling ever work? How could there be even one instance where the whale didn't dive straight down and bring the boat with them?
The way this works all comes down to catching the whales at their downtime, you see for whales breathing is no reflex movement, it's a conscious effort which is also why they can hold their breath for so long, so they replenish their energy and air supply. Apart from that downtime, a Sperm whale actually spends very little time at the surface of the water. So the whalers learned to get them at that very small time frame they had.
Also and this is also the reason why whale species such as the Humpback and the Finwhale weren't being hunted at the time, a Sperm whale is not heavier than water, so it floats when killed.
as a muslim..we encourage to do the same if situation were difficult..to understand that u will not ended your life but god is..
The theological implications mentioned by the guest narrator near the end would have been morally devastating to those men on the boats, especially during their last moments of suffering. Robinson Crusoe - Thank God! - did'nt have to kill and eat Friday.
Learned more about whaling than I wanted to know. Horrible!! The cannibalism is just...can’t think of a word worse enough to describe it! Made me ill to think about it!
I too am at a loss for a horribler word. If some men decided to die rather than cannibalize their mates... horriblest?
"Man that nigga is huge" thomas nickerson- cabinboy
That's some good story telling entertaining
I'm watching this after watching in the heart of the sea. I didn't know it's a real story.
+TheJohnbalbiran im watching in the heart of the sea too and the film is inspiring te novel moby dick
+shark zahar friend - Unless I'm misunderstanding you, (Your writing is very bad.) the film did NOT inspire the novel. The novel was published in 1851...long before there was any such thing as film.
If you mean that the film is inspiring you to read the novel...good for you.
me too!!
but I already knew moby dick actually happened.
the real story was even more horrible than the movie depicted.
@@tredzwater mah she did not mean that
Owen Coffin is referenced in the rock band' Mountain's epic work Nantucket Sleigh Ride.
My ancestor 😊
I'm currently reading this on my smartphone- it is so well written and the pages turn very fast-
And they remained civilized the whole time...clean-shaven till the end.
In The Heart Of The Sea was a surprisingly accurate depiction.
+MAT T I thought the best of the movie was AFTER the whale. I mean ignoring the silliness of it following them, stalking them. When the men were on the boat, when it cuts back to Nickerson struggling to get the story out and his wife telling him she would love him regardless of the nasty deeds he had been forced to carry out. Such a moving scene.
The early parts of the movie were boring, and silly, and far too focused on Thor. Just because he is Thor basically he had to be the lead, even though he wasn't telling the story and was really a bit of a tit in the film.
+MAT T Um, NO. not really. Not at all, actually.
Well the character was actually depicted fairly well , at least from the novels perspective
The tone of the film was totally wrong, compared to this doc.
The movie made the Captain out to be a 1%ter Evil Steretype(Till the end that only furthers this bullshit message) and the 1st mate as the good leader. When actually it was the Evil, "I Don't care what peasants think" Stereotype who backed down and went against his own decisions because he obviously didn't have the balls(The Evil Balls) To tell Chase "NO".
if the captain would have done what he thought was best, they never would have ended up in the mess, Which he did bowed down to his will more than once.
Movie basically just become divisive propaganda at this point.
MAT T the cabin boy and the first mate were not related actually the movie got that right. As with them burying the first few that died at sea
Okay.. So what I've been watching on In The Heart Of The Sea was based on a true story ..? WOW I didn't realised it omg and this is an amazing and incredible true story .__.
. . . Only, in Ron Howard's "In The Heart Of The Sea".....the Essex didn't go down with whale oil explosions (stupid).....she capsized and sank after drifting on her side for a couple of days...allowing crew to further provision their whaleboats.....Plus....the sperm whale never followed and harassed the survivors' boats, as implied in the movie. (again, stupid.)
@@stevelindstedt8858 she aint stupid
yeah its a true story
ingnore this guy he need to learn how to speak and he is wrong
Ahh havent seen this since i was a little kid, glad ive found it again
After the early squall that flipped her over on her side, Pollard wanted to return to Nantucket, but was convinced otherwise...and they provisioned at Cape Verde, for repairs and to obtain replacement whaleboats....illustrating further Pollards weakness as captain.
I think it’s worth noting that back in those days, Captains had to be careful what orders to give as choosing an unpopular opinion runs the risk of mutiny… and at best, mutinies resulted in the captain (and potentially those idling with the captain) forced into a spare row boat and set adrift… at worse, death. I think that the captain in this case was well aware that his men could mutiny against him should he make the wrong decision. Ironically, he made the wrong decisions.
i don't read much..but my hair cutter.was reading IN THE HEART OF THE SEA..told me about it..bought the book......could not put it down..
I tried reading Moby Dick but couldn't get into it. I did read In The Heart Of The Sea, though. I'm related to the Folgers, Starbucks, Coffins, Swains, and maybe the Gardners, of Nantucket. Gayer Starbuck and Rachel Folger are my 6x great grandparents.
Whale oil was a major commodity used in the slave trade - both the triangle trade and the bilateral trade
As a Coffin descendant thank you for this part of our history
Our early times of human existence is a tale of hard truth and brutality.
The real story needs to be made into a movie
It has been. In The Heart of the Sea
Hollywood’s too busy making a Mario Kart movie, the death of art and literature is upon us.
The Book In the Heart of The Sea is GRISLY. Gave me nightmares reading it. The movie sucked BTW
Those quakers had one god and it was money,
I don't blame the whale at all
Now we need a documentary on the third boat
Why can't all whales do that against all whaling ships?
this was awesome
Which says nothing.
wonderful movie......thank you
its a documentry
Those whales have know idea about nature,Ships could have gone extinct.
Carmine Jr. too would call this story very allegorical. The sacred and the propane.
Gulp.Even the Wikipedia account made me well up.
Excellent.
Those Quakers sound like some greedy bastards!
They sure were!
This was the Discovery Channel Documentary.
THE VIDEO IS O.K, THE AUDIO, SEND THE F----KING ORCHESTRA HOME !
Karma is savage
One theory is that the whale was reacting to the distress cry of a female cow whose calf had just been slaughtered by the crew.
Can’t say I feel bad for those men. Whaling is unbelievably cruel and brutal. Whale got his revenge.
I mean, this must have sucked. But it’s definitely karma. 💁🏼♀️
If you go to the ' Guttenburg project', you can download Moby Dick free.. Also thousands of other old books free.
publishing industry along with audio visual has gone through drastic changes as the online internet has taken over public interest, conventional publishing is reduced but same can be published online portals meant for online publishing like kindle, only Nations still not that connected everywhere, have still readership in conventional paper ink printing or theatre going... well, that paper ink can be converted into paper notes and used for public help and support, whereas online publishing and readerships are going to increase.
First off, why in the world did he say "nothing is known about the whale that sank the Essex"? It was found several years later and harpooned to death. In Reynolds' account, Mocha Dick was killed in 1838, after he appeared to come to the aid of a distraught cow whose calf had just been slain by the whalers. His body was 70 feet long and yielded 100 barrels of oil, along with some ambergris-a substance used in the making of perfumes and at times worth more per ounce than gold. He also had twenty harpoons in his body.
@reyganbriggs, the story of Mocha Dick is indeed very interesting. But it's not at all certain that Mocha Dick was the whale who destroyed the Essex. The crew of the Essex didn't get a good look at the whale who attacked them, and no one saw something which could've been a distinguishing mark. They just saw that the whale was huge! But he wasn't an albino whale.
Philbrick actually said that over time the behavior of the male sperm whales changed. They started to be more aggressive towards the mother ships, as if they had figured out the origins of the beings who attacked and slaughtered them. It's hard to say what was going on since the behavior of sperm whales is still not completely understood, and today they aren't under attack anymore.
Shellfish and berries!!!
Hahaha nice story bruh. I expect that all the whalers are dead. But some survived
And they're still alive, right John?
lmao , with the closed captioning on , @ 3:30 when she said "was lubrication" , somehow that showed up as "Muslim vacation" ....CC is useless but hilarious , ;) Come to think of it , 'Muslim vacation' is probably an allegory for a whaling voyage.....they're both trips you wouldn't want to go on , lol;)
+tarwagon This is tooooo funny - "muslim Vacation". I hate it when they try to make/let machines and electronics think for us! The coincidence for me was that I texted a friend yesterday that I had "gone straight home after going to IGA" [a grocery store]. I didn't notice that the brain in my phone changed IGA to "Uganda". My friend asked if I had a nice trip??!! then I saw it. That might have been a muslim vacation... :-))
Too bad wood can't survive the water like metal can, it would be a interesting voyage if someone could've found the remains of the Essex
As a matter of fact, wood lasts longer under water than steel. The salt of the ocean causes the metal to rust away fairly soon. These beginners didn't know where the hell they were.
+eatenbytheweasel not true on sea bottom there are bacteria "eating" metal and worms that live and eat in wooden material
Christoph meister And that's why we find ancient wrecks made of wood. But can't identify steel ships a mere century or two old.
The Mountain song "Nantucket Sleihride" was dedicated to Owen Coffin.
Was this on History Channel or History International or some one of those?
Owen Chase.
Call him Ishmael.
I mean, Owen.
And the cabin boy. ^___^
I hate when documentaries try to judge history by modern moral standards. Just tell the history and why things happened without judging people of the past. It makes history experts seem like the don't understand history at all.
I see the "History International" words on the screen now. There they are.
(bottom right)
There once was a man from Nantucket.....
..yip ..so Moby Dick over time sat and watched his family members being murdered ..the sights ..noise ..the missing !! ..yeah i get it ..rest in peace " old friend " ..from New Zealand
Thomas Nickerson, was he the cabin boy?
Not a chance America, it's one of Britain's favourites too, as I grew up reading and watching it on TV with my parents and now our children. Although some version's are frightening for kid's.
Why didnt they go to the giftshop(29:40) on Anderson Island and used the Telefone to call 911 for help?.
The moby Dick is still there.i believe it
The movie of Moby dick with Gregory Peck woke up my interest to watch this documentary. I find this story horrible and very Scary, I can't believe this is based in a true story
So the true story isn't about a severely genetic recessive whale, but, a grey whale.
It was a rogue male Sperm whale (Owen Chase's narrative says just that...as well as Nickerson's writings on the incident, as well)....Grey's are much smaller. Greys do not dive for squid....Greys are a baleen whale, that feed on krill, shrimp and baitfish.....Sperms are toothed whales....hunting larger prey, including giant squid, as well as Humboldts.
The good old sailor-tradition to kill one for eating him has even a name !It s called "customer of the sea"!
desastermaster2010 It's the law of the sea.
You should watch "In The Deep" American Experience
Why?
Man that was good
I'm glad the whale fought back. There beautiful and Intelligent. Hopefully they'll stop killing them altogether.
you didn't understood nothing in this story -zero
@@sepulatura4698 That would be you asshole
i dont eat meat, but if i am in that boat, i will eat the death crew.
They should have brought the whale meat...
If they harpooned the lungs,wouldn`t the whale sink into the depths?
Good question. My God! An intelligent post.
Lungs aren't sacks like balloons; they're spongy and extremely buoyant even when cut into small pieces.
Plus, blubber, which is basically just fat/oil, is also highly buoyant. A whale ain't sinking
@Kris De Roo EVENTUALLY they sink but it takes a while
I used to watch this documentary when I was little. Does anyone know where I could find this on DVD?
Why not just watch it right now for free?
I did, but I would also like to add it to my library where I know I'll have it
+Pool Shark Download the video from Keepvids.com
Maybe on Amazon
Only Fans
What a story.