I have a headcanon that the strange behavior and the reason it remains mostly humanoid is that childs is fighting from within, and that’s why he tells mac to run and draws so much attention to himself. Childs is essentially trying to commit suicide by soldier rather than kill mac.
Ah yes, the origin of the fuzzy green adorable 'Thing'. Its so memorably bizarre that its no wonder Dr. Crafty worked it into every October title card since then. It'll be interesting to see whether Viga continues that trend next month.
You know, if there was gonna be a true sequel to The Thing, I'd like an approach like The Andromeda Strain. No "trying to make it a weapon", but rather scientists who are well equipped doing their best to assess the threat of the Thing and trying to find a way to counter it. Only... it doesn't have to end as cleanly...
I agree. The conflict between Douglas and Hooper should be that Douglas wants to learn more in case another Thing alien lands on Earth vs. Hooper not wanting to take the risk of it escaping. That would be actually compelling because neither one is totally in the wrong.
Now that would be cool. Scientists figuring out how the organism works, how it feeds, where it comes from. How it ended up here. Just imagine the scientists manage to successfully contain the Thing, eliminate all other things in the area and try to communicate with it. Researcher: Where do you come from? What is it you want? Thing: I want what you want. To live. To eat. To grow. Researcher: Your actions suggest that you just want to replace all of us. Thing: I eat when i need to. The same as you. Researcher: If all you're trying to do is survive then why did you attack us? Thing: Your lifeform struck first. You know, suggest that the Thing at first just wanted to survive but because we were afraid of it and attacked it for eating us we angered the Thing and now it wants to just wipe us all out or get the heck out of dodge.
Oh god, now I have a deep need for some kind of crossover between The Thing, Andromeda Strain, and Phase IV. A group of scientists encounter the Thing, try and assess and stop it, and find an unlikely ally in mutated, sentient ants who resist infection by the alien creature and thus become the only way to stop it.
7:50 Linkara...you have finally helped me solve a mystery I have been pondering for several decades. I read Starstream when I was a kid. I remembered the anthology aspects, even some of the stories like "Does A Bee Care?" and "Call Me Joe". But I couldn't remember anything else...until now. THANK YOU.
You will never be able to convince me that Eternal Vows started out as a completely different story detached from The Thing altogether, but was forced to become a Thing story to retain the comic rights or anything like that. Now in all honesty a storyline about a normally hostile alien lifeform part of a hive mind that gets separated from it and for the first time in its existence gains sapience and learns about humility while living amongst humans *is* an interesting idea for a sci-fi story. It's just that The Thing was the WRONG universe to put this story in. Oh God was it the wrong universe.
2:48 I have nothing but love for James Rolfe, but I completely disagree with him on his notion that the amazing practical effects takes away the suspense. I think it enhances it. This disgusting, horrifying creature can appear to be anyone, but they’re trapped with it, not knowing when it’ll strike again. Partly why it’s my fav horror movie
Huh. Never figured someone like you, Larry, would know what that is given that you're supposed to be a behind the times nerdy computer programmer who's focused on finding love, or at least a good time. ;)
Macreedy: I know I'm human. And I know if you were all these... things, you'd just attack me, so some of you must still be human. Childs: I dunno man, that sounds kinda sus. **MACREEDY WAS EJECTED**
1:24:50 about the whole "romendarte" thing (no pun intended) is a mispell of "Remendarte" which means to bandage, he is saying "maybe i can bandage/heal you"
Also it's hilarous to read "coño!"( 1:32:30 )as a swearing expression in Tierra Del Fuego- it's used in Spain. It's as if someone in Harry Potter said "Holy Fuck!" instead of "Bloody Hell!". (I know because my family is argentenean)
I wouldn't mind a story where The Thing is treated like an SCP. No government influence to try and turn it into bioweapon or whatever, but people studying it under a contained environment. People trying to find out where it comes from or what it's goal is while keeping it away from the general population. Then once a containment breach happens all hell breaks lose.
26:20 Even one of my favorite writers, Harlan Ellison, missed the boat on The Thing, calling it part of John Carpenter's "swan dive down the toilet bowl". His description of it was "One should not eat before watching it and CANNOT eat AFTER watching it."
I think the thing (ah) that frustrates me the most about these comics is how they always end with the implication that the Thing finds a way to escape, while Carpenter's movie's ending had the ambiguity in regards to Childs and McCreedy but otherwise stated that at best the creature would have been frozen there in Antartica. It's a bit undermining the intent imho. -Teo
Not really into The Thing movies myself (not my...thing...unintentional pun), but I DO love the Thing Tucker character you created. It's just so weird that Thing Tucker became a regular background character in all other horror titlecards now. I love it. Though I always called it "Muppet Thing," myself. Still do. XD
That talk during Questionable Research about people not trusting scientists these days hits a lot harder in 2021 then when the original video first came out.
For all the lovable goofiness of Agapito, and the absolute parody of tough military that is Erstein, and the rest wrong with the comic continuation, I think a tightened up version of Thing From Another World and Climate of Fear would be pretty fun. Think of it, if we started Thing From Another World from Erstein's perspective and they found Macreedy during some form of training exercise, only for Childs to show up and Macreedy to start freaking out. They go to a nearby base or an icebreaker, Thing-antics ensue. Then we go to Climate of Fear where it could get a bit more actiony, with Thing-Childs (and arguably the Thing now used to humanity and their attempts to stop it) starting to take a more advanced role in trying to infect things as Macreedy and the other survivors desperately try to finally stop the thing proper. Again, naturally need to smarten the scripts a bit but still.
While the story itself would never work, I think also taking just a tiny sliver of a point from Eternal Vows could work. As in the Thing actually starting to be influenced by humanity after having to act like so many. And actually having it *be* a struggle with the main imitation too, having that primal need to assimilate and spread vs the little bits of humanity that are metaphorically infecting it or something...
One thing I wanted to note about the whole 'Antarctica is a continent' thing... based on an offhand comment elsewhere that it's actually an archipelago with an enormous ice cap, I decided to do some digging. And it seems like a good portion of the mass of Antarctica is in fact just Ice, with much of the basis for 'land' below sea level. But from what little investigation I did, it's entirely possible that without the ice, the land would also rise. On top of that, in most places in Antarctica, the ice is over a mile thick. So even if the sub found a place that had no underlying landmass... even Optimus Prime would have a bit of a time getting through a mile of Ice.
I have an idea for a crossover, John Carpenter's The Thing + Star Trek (I think it would be fun to see Starfleet personal having to deal with The Thing & I'm sure Linkara would probably enjoy that kind of crossover, as their probably used to encounters with dangerous alien lifeforms)!
That does exist... to a degree. The episode of DS9 "The Adversary" is heavily based off of "The Thing." It's a continuation of the show's ongoing plot, so it's hard to recommend as a standalone episode, but it has all the good trappings, plus the more idealistic humanized view that Star Trek is famous for. Very good for a tribute.
I have a theory that Mac is immune to assimilation. Given how easy assimilation is in these comics, it's the only explanation as to why he hasn't been taken over.
I like to think that The Thing may acquire certain traits from the creatures it infects, and in the case of that soldier it infected, it unfortunately (for itself) gained the soldier's stupidity which is why it showed itself!
Actually, there are exceptions to allowing firearms in Antarctica, one of them being used by security personnel at research stations. And it can be argued that flamethrowers can be used to melt snow around doorways, to access storage, or a generator room for power.
1:31:21 Actually, Antarctica isn't an content. it's an archipelago (cluster of islands) with a single huge ice sheet over it. There are plenty of places a sub could get under the antartic ice... But there's no way the sub could break it as that ice is stupid thick!
Here me out, Arrival, but with the thing. The government figures out a way to get a contaminated person into some secret arctic base observation room, and for a good chunk of the movie, the scientists there try and figure out what it is and try to talk to it. I would watch the hell out of that.
"If you're not familiar with The Thing, here's the basic rundown of all 3 movies": "Fox doesn't understand the Fantastic Four beyond Johnny annoying Ben every time he gets a chance, annd maybe Doom hates Reed Richards... arguably only because everybody hates Reed Richards". Wait, what do you mean it's not _that_ Thing!?
I love how home video was one of the things that saved John Carpenter's The Thing. Mostly because my family was part of the early home video rental business.
"It is possible that opinions and attitudes expressed at the time may no longer apply at the time this compilation was released." Linkara: "The Thing prequel is just okay now, I guess."
I like how your opening mimics the credits and colour scheme of the 1982 The Thing. You should have had your hat fly to earth like the saucer did at the beginning.
Imagine letting The Thing loose in THE OCEAN. He had to have been infected, it's the only explanation. Its dominion on Earth is all but guaranteed at that point. All it has to do is get ahold of one tiny fish and it's over. It would be the size of a blue whale in a few days at most.
I actually have a possible theory about why the thing might not be able to infect plants. It's possible that since Plant cells have cell walls that are designed for protection against mechanical and osmotic stress. Granting I have no idea if the Cell wall might protect against the Thing Cells attempting to infect them, but it feels like a reasonable explanation.
google translate says talvez pueda romandarte translates to maybe i can romance you, but if you change romandarte to remendarte then it becomes “maybe i can patch you up” so yeah just another weird misspelling. OR he was gonna have some weird romantic date with the seal, with how stupid he was already acting that option is just as believable.
Well the first one of these came out right at the beginning after Linkara Described the movie and the premise I actually stopped the review went to Netflix and watched it and absolutely loved it. I watch it every year and I’ve re-bought it on Blu-ray at least 2 times. Oh yes and once I finish the movie I came back and watch the review
I always wondered if the Thing was actually a hostile monster bent on taking over the world or just a scared traumatized creature trying to survive in a hostile environment populated with aggressive creature whose biology was utterly alien to it. We don’t know what happened at the Norwegian Base we have no idea who attacked who.
Was the Thing an alien experiment gone horribly wrong? It would be frightening to know that the frozen UFO in the Antartic had more than just one occupant.
@@BBBHuey One idea I really like is that the Thing convinces it's hosts to work with it for their own survival. The thing didn't start by assimilating the humans at the American Camp, just their sled dogs. Desperate terrified creates can often times acts irrationally or aggressively to protect themselves from perceived threats.
It would be good to know what happened at the Norwegian outpost. Though I think the movie thing is malicious or sociopathic on the grounds of If the thing could talk in perfect English, why not at least try to explain the situation? If it’s about preservation well multiple people were infected so he could just sacrifice one to try. plus it still killed a lot of men despite being able to read their minds and shows no signs of empathy or remorse. That qualifies for evil in my book. Still if there was to be a remake of the thing I would want to see it for the creatures perspective because as amazing as it is we never really got much personality from it despite being a sentient creature capable of universal communications.
53:50 that's the plot to "the leviathan" its pretty much the thing under water. Its just as good as the thing in my opinion, maybe a lil cheap in some parts
Mike Richardson, publisher of Dark Horse, is also the founder of the comic store chain Things From Another World. Probably one of his favorite stories and probably another reason why the title was used instead of just “the Thing”.
I wonder Linkara’s thoughts about the release of Frozen Hell, the extended novel version of Who goes there and the announcement of Studio Blumhouse doing an adaptation of that story.
After watching this a few times, it just struck me. Eternal Vows is basically a vampire story remade with the Thing. Especially the "dead" aspect, and the feeding vs infecting thing. If you made them vampires, except for the shape shifting into fish (rather than bats or wolves or rats or other more traditional vampire shapeshifting), it wouldn't really change much.
What i LOVE about John Carpenters The Thing movie is that it plays so heavily on the fact that NONE in team US speaks Norwegian, to the point that IF ANYBODY spoke the language the movie would be over in the intro......how did the prequel fucked that up is a true wonder SPOILERS To anyone who hasn't seen the movie or never realized this fact, in the intro there is a guy with a chopper hunting a wolf in the Antarctica, who is dead set paranoid on killing that specific wolf amd nothing else and he (in Norwegian) shouts at the main characters to STAY AWAY FROM THAT THING, IT ISN'T A WOLF, IT IS AN ALIEN SHAPESHIFTING THING THAT KILL HIS ENTIRE TEAM, STAY AWAY FROM IT and then he fires danger close to the us research team and since they are in far better condition than him, they shoot once or twice and kill him....no realizing what did that just started.
I was always surprised that everyone always thinks that Child’s is The Thing and never actually Mac. If they ever did make a sequel you could literally stage it as both men somehow escape and a group of military scientists work with Mac to hunt down Child’s while more Things offspring appear and at the end it turns out Child’s was the human and Mac was the Thing, maybe the creature is clever it wipes its own mind and doesn’t even realize he is the alien but a small part of him has been breaking off and gaslighting himself giving fake memories. Just an idea for something different
Excuse me, Linkara. I tried to find the websites for the Thing mini series. Did they reveal how the Thing got around the blood test? Since I can't find it, sorry to bother you
I sadly cannot recall. I think it was something along the lines of like willing the piece of itself extracted to not react before it was taken, but they came up with a new test via electricity - since the defibrillator paddles in the movie got the Norris Thing to react even though it was one piece and his body was seemingly dead when it could have just played possum, clearly it didn't like the jolt.
If you want a story that deals with a predatory alien becoming infected by human emotions like love, I'd recommend Under The Skin starting Scarlet Johansson. Awesome movie
ALRIGHTY. *cracks my writing knuckles and jogs my Author noggin* So presumably, the idea behind Eternal Vows is an extension of the logic of the Blood Test: The Blood Test works, because when a part of The Thing is separated from it, it becomes its own sentient entity, with its own will. In the Blood Tests case, this means it will ignore the will of the original mind to stay concealed, and simply act to survive. Eternal Vows seems to posit that if this continued for a longer period of time, where there wasn't a desperate need to escape a location like the Antarctic Base, if they were in a safe location, that any separate Things would start to vie for territory and actually end up against each other. They're not a hive mind, the Blood Test actively disproves this. They ARE an infection that spreads, creating more of itself. Now, the parts regarding people keeping their own minds, the fact it's "feeding" and "replacing it's own dead cells with peoples living ones" does indeed seem like a load of horse hockey, but the rest seems solid honestly.
The minds are just copies, Word of God(Carpenter) said that anyone assimilated by the thing suffers death of personality. They're dead, it's just copying them.
"Underneath all the snow and stuff, there is a continent! With, y'know, *ground!*" yeah, so, about that: Antarctica isn't actually one contiguous landmass. It looks like it because of all the ice, but there's actually quite a lot of it that would otherwise be open ocean if not for the ice sheets. That being said, the submarine *is* still an insanely stupid plot point - the Antarctic ice sheet is still about a mile thick on the average - two and half at its thickest point. Even if a submarine's strong enough to bust through ice that thick, there's not gonna be any water for it to rise up through. Water doesn't typically flow upwards.
Prequel also missed the opportunity to explore how having two women in the mix would change things. The Norwegian woman is an alien, but instead of using that to its advantage it just jumps out first chance it gets to attack the other woman. Stay hidden, sew confusion and prey on the Norwegian men's desire to protect the feminine, especially from the foreigners.
You think that thing wanted to be animal?? NO DOG CAN RUN A 1000 MILES IN THE COLD! NOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, THAT THE THING WANTED TO BE UUUSSSSSS!!!!!! 😅
With a little imagination, Dark horse could have had a crossover event ....the Thing from another world meets Predator ( they could've even had the xenomorph). Imagine if you will...according to the AVP movie, the predators used Antarctica as a hunting ground, and the thing crashes...interrupting their ritual...the following conflict allows the xenomorphs to get out of control...forces the predators to use the nuclear option, wiping out that particular civilization and causing the ice age....however the thing survives (freezing/sleeping)first in its ship and then in the ice. NOW IMAGINE...A few thousand years later...the Predators have returned to Earth, on safari....only to discover that "The Thing" has not only survived, but has made it to South America ...of course the predators can see The Thing, due to their masks...let the fight begin. Imagine the money Dark Horse would be making.
You probably know this, but John Carpenter, the director of the Kurt Russell film, loved the 1950s movie. He didn’t even wanna do the remake. He even played clips of it in possibly his most famous movie, Halloween. Plus, the original was based on a book which itself was a rip off from an HP Lovecraft story. So… do with that what you will.
It being based on Lovecraft (admittedly indirectly) does explain why it's tbe closest thing to Cosmic Horror I can think of that's both extremely popular and not books.
@@davidspring4003 I haven’t read the book, but it apparently has a lot more an optimistic ending than the movie. If you’re interested, Dominic Noble did a video where he assesses the adaptation between the book and the Carpenter film. Personally, just as a general rule, I prefer to have my horror films feature a darker or more ambiguous ending like say, the original Halloween (I know about the sequels, but they’re beside the point).
I personally enjoy the prequel. Yea the CGI over practical effects was dumb, but I genuinely liked what we've got especially the ending. As for the Thing being reckless, well like an intelligent animal, it learns from mistakes.
.... you know, if the theory about the Thing being a prisoner on the crashed ship is correct, that WOULD explain why the ship is so damn flammable in every story that it appears in. Like, that might have been a deliberate failsafe to try and make sure the Thing goes down with the ship if anything goes wrong. Although it didn't quite work.
I always attributed it to the fact that it's an alien vessel, so on whatever planet it originated from the material wouldn't seem so combustible as opposed to Earth's atmosphere. As for the Thing, I'm of the camp that believes the alien UFO was originally piloted by scientists that collected specimens from other worlds for research but had the unfortunate luck of collecting a creature that was actually the Thing in disguise.
About yhr Spanish part of Climate of Fear: as someone who speaks both languages and makes a living by translating, I can see what they tried to do. They made the dialogue sound like it was being said in argentinian accent, the issue is that the way they talk is clearly directly translated from English, no adaptation besides the mild spelling changes of the accent. And no, I have no blody idea of what "romendarte" is. The only thing I can think of is two misspellings: 1) "recomendarte" literally recommend you but in this case it would be endorse someone for a position. 2) "Adoptarte" adopt you. That's it.
I gotta call Lewis out on the whole language thing. In Europe, almost everyone is taught multiple languages. French, German, and English are the three most popular languages, as they are also the most widespread. Its a very American idea that other people only speak their native language. Most Norwegians can probably speak English better then a native English speaker, because that's just how it is over there.
And that is a fair enough argument. Counter-argument, though: when there is more growing paranoia among the characters, why don't some of the Norwegians ONLY speak in Norwegian to each other privately so the American can't understand them? Again, utilize it properly in the story to build tension, otherwise why even have an American as part of the group at all?
@@AT4W I get ya. I think its an idea that isn't properly explored. It would have been cool for them to speak in their native language to keep their plans secret. For me, it was a studio saying, "Oh they all need to speak English because the audience doesn't want to read subtitles." I just always think its funny when people in America seem to think Europeans ONLY speak their native language, when most countries require at least three extra languages in school.
Is it me or does Douglas from Questionable Research look a bit like Pat Boivin of PatStaresAt and formerly of Best Friends Play? Ironically, he isn't even the first character from the thing to look like Pat; Bennings from the movie kinda looked like him, too.
John Carpenter's The Thing does prove that some remakes can be better than the original! Though the prequel proves that CGI & poorly written scientist characters who are stupid will never beat practical effects & well written characters!
The Childs-Thing running through the jungle firing two flamethrowers while screaming at Mac is amazingly hilarious.
Lol indeed
@Darth_ Madara lol 😂
I believe you mean Raptor Dude-Thing, and yes
I have a headcanon that the strange behavior and the reason it remains mostly humanoid is that childs is fighting from within, and that’s why he tells mac to run and draws so much attention to himself. Childs is essentially trying to commit suicide by soldier rather than kill mac.
@@364dragonrider that would make sort of sense
Ah yes, the origin of the fuzzy green adorable 'Thing'. Its so memorably bizarre that its no wonder Dr. Crafty worked it into every October title card since then. It'll be interesting to see whether Viga continues that trend next month.
Oh god, the Thing Reviews have amalgamated into one GIANT Thing Review!!!! Get the flamethrower!!!!
FOR WHAT!
@@aye1972"YOU HEARD HIM! NOW MOVE!!!"
@@dubuyajay9964MAC WANTS THE FLAME THROWER?!
@@mikem1765I GOT THE FLAME THROWER *shoots the video on fire*
That green monster is so iconic and adorable, I want a plush or figure of it so badly!
I actually knitted one of them. You could see it starting at "Climate of Fear".
@@alyhoffman2643 Oh yeah! That's really cute, good job on it
@@alyhoffman2643 you did nice 😎
@@alyhoffman2643 you knitted that? Good job. It looks really good.
@@alyhoffman2643 They're adorable! :D
I love how a misspelt Spanish word led you down a rabbit hole to a JP fansite's telling of the comic.
What is it?
You know, if there was gonna be a true sequel to The Thing, I'd like an approach like The Andromeda Strain. No "trying to make it a weapon", but rather scientists who are well equipped doing their best to assess the threat of the Thing and trying to find a way to counter it. Only... it doesn't have to end as cleanly...
And it probably ends _messily_ for all involved.
I always imagined a scenario where they KNOW someone is The Thing but approach them peacefully to inquire about it.
I agree. The conflict between Douglas and Hooper should be that Douglas wants to learn more in case another Thing alien lands on Earth vs. Hooper not wanting to take the risk of it escaping. That would be actually compelling because neither one is totally in the wrong.
Now that would be cool. Scientists figuring out how the organism works, how it feeds, where it comes from. How it ended up here.
Just imagine the scientists manage to successfully contain the Thing, eliminate all other things in the area and try to communicate with it.
Researcher: Where do you come from? What is it you want?
Thing: I want what you want. To live. To eat. To grow.
Researcher: Your actions suggest that you just want to replace all of us.
Thing: I eat when i need to. The same as you.
Researcher: If all you're trying to do is survive then why did you attack us?
Thing: Your lifeform struck first.
You know, suggest that the Thing at first just wanted to survive but because we were afraid of it and attacked it for eating us we angered the Thing and now it wants to just wipe us all out or get the heck out of dodge.
Oh god, now I have a deep need for some kind of crossover between The Thing, Andromeda Strain, and Phase IV. A group of scientists encounter the Thing, try and assess and stop it, and find an unlikely ally in mutated, sentient ants who resist infection by the alien creature and thus become the only way to stop it.
7:50 Linkara...you have finally helped me solve a mystery I have been pondering for several decades. I read Starstream when I was a kid. I remembered the anthology aspects, even some of the stories like "Does A Bee Care?" and "Call Me Joe". But I couldn't remember anything else...until now. THANK YOU.
Could he review those stories too, plz? :(
You will never be able to convince me that Eternal Vows started out as a completely different story detached from The Thing altogether, but was forced to become a Thing story to retain the comic rights or anything like that.
Now in all honesty a storyline about a normally hostile alien lifeform part of a hive mind that gets separated from it and for the first time in its existence gains sapience and learns about humility while living amongst humans *is* an interesting idea for a sci-fi story. It's just that The Thing was the WRONG universe to put this story in. Oh God was it the wrong universe.
Didn't Star Trek: TNG do that with Hugh the Borg?
@@davidspring4003 I wouldn't know. I don't watch Star Trek.
@@DinoDave150I've Benn THINK-ING The Same THING”
They should've brought Agapito back for Eternal Vows with a flamethrower built into his new robot arm!
With Senior Sunglasses and his shades of bossitude
@@michaeliv284senior sunglasses was probably killed by Erskine in the communications shack given he escorted him there.
2:48 I have nothing but love for James Rolfe, but I completely disagree with him on his notion that the amazing practical effects takes away the suspense. I think it enhances it. This disgusting, horrifying creature can appear to be anyone, but they’re trapped with it, not knowing when it’ll strike again. Partly why it’s my fav horror movie
Among Us: The Early Years. "Figured I'd get that reference out early so y'all could get on with your lives."
Lol 😂
Huh. Never figured someone like you, Larry, would know what that is given that you're supposed to be a behind the times nerdy computer programmer who's focused on finding love, or at least a good time. ;)
Very sus 🤔
Macreedy: I know I'm human. And I know if you were all these... things, you'd just attack me, so some of you must still be human.
Childs: I dunno man, that sounds kinda sus.
**MACREEDY WAS EJECTED**
@@gratuitouslurking8610 Macreedy was not the imposter. Childs: Looks at the screen with the Thriller Evil Cat Eye Look.
1:24:50 about the whole "romendarte" thing (no pun intended) is a mispell of "Remendarte" which means to bandage, he is saying "maybe i can bandage/heal you"
Thanks
Also it's hilarous to read "coño!"( 1:32:30 )as a swearing expression in Tierra Del Fuego- it's used in Spain. It's as if someone in Harry Potter said "Holy Fuck!" instead of "Bloody Hell!". (I know because my family is argentenean)
@@catalinamelo9932 probablemente los asesoraron alguien, o bien de españa, o del caribe.
@@blackhawk4fulI was going to say, wasn't that word used in 80's Scarface?
@@dubuyajay9964 I have no idea, never watched it
On the “sea shell with tentacles” is pretty sure that’s a Man o war, which is a type of jellyfish (kinda, it’s a bit more complicated then that)
iirc, Man o' War are technically a colony of single-celled organisms
"My title card artist calls him Thing Tucker. It's The Thing from Another World, but voiced by Chris Tucker"
Linkara - 2016
Do you understand the words coming out of his mouth?
Annnnd we're done here (Pulls out the power glove)
What, you're going to be an AVGN rip-off when he fought Freddy?
@@thegreatstoneddragon9432 Nah! I'm going to be ripping off something else
@@the4thwallkid132 What the...?
I wouldn't mind a story where The Thing is treated like an SCP. No government influence to try and turn it into bioweapon or whatever, but people studying it under a contained environment. People trying to find out where it comes from or what it's goal is while keeping it away from the general population. Then once a containment breach happens all hell breaks lose.
There is one. The flesg that hates.
@@justwannabehappy6735 Eh, the Flesh That Hates isn't really Thing though it's more zombie plague but with more body horror.
I have to thank you Linkara. Is because of you that I watched John Carpenter's The Thing, and it became one of my favourite movies of all time.
26:20 Even one of my favorite writers, Harlan Ellison, missed the boat on The Thing, calling it part of John Carpenter's "swan dive down the toilet bowl". His description of it was "One should not eat before watching it and CANNOT eat AFTER watching it."
Agapito: the hero we need if the mcu is going with a skrull invasion plot. With his cyborg arm and macready’s luck the skrulls don’t stand a chance.
(South American accent) Groovy
What a Chad
I’m surprised the “You are being too logical!” Clip didn’t make a comeback
I think the thing (ah) that frustrates me the most about these comics is how they always end with the implication that the Thing finds a way to escape, while Carpenter's movie's ending had the ambiguity in regards to Childs and McCreedy but otherwise stated that at best the creature would have been frozen there in Antartica. It's a bit undermining the intent imho.
-Teo
Not really into The Thing movies myself (not my...thing...unintentional pun), but I DO love the Thing Tucker character you created. It's just so weird that Thing Tucker became a regular background character in all other horror titlecards now. I love it. Though I always called it "Muppet Thing," myself. Still do. XD
It's been years since I thought about Romandarte and Raptor Dude.
The Thing comics are probably my favorite of the Halloween reviews on this show.
That talk during Questionable Research about people not trusting scientists these days hits a lot harder in 2021 then when the original video first came out.
Are you talking about the anti-vaxxers when the COVID-19 vaccine was created?
@@troin3925 yeah, and let's not forget the climate change deniers.
The thing comic reviews were honestly the highlight for every October during high school
Take a shot every time Linkara uses the "You gotta be F-ing kidding me," clip
That green monster is really cute and adorable 🥰 especially your plushies of that monster.
That "The Thing"-like AT4W title appearance is still very cool all these years later~
For all the lovable goofiness of Agapito, and the absolute parody of tough military that is Erstein, and the rest wrong with the comic continuation, I think a tightened up version of Thing From Another World and Climate of Fear would be pretty fun. Think of it, if we started Thing From Another World from Erstein's perspective and they found Macreedy during some form of training exercise, only for Childs to show up and Macreedy to start freaking out. They go to a nearby base or an icebreaker, Thing-antics ensue. Then we go to Climate of Fear where it could get a bit more actiony, with Thing-Childs (and arguably the Thing now used to humanity and their attempts to stop it) starting to take a more advanced role in trying to infect things as Macreedy and the other survivors desperately try to finally stop the thing proper. Again, naturally need to smarten the scripts a bit but still.
While the story itself would never work, I think also taking just a tiny sliver of a point from Eternal Vows could work. As in the Thing actually starting to be influenced by humanity after having to act like so many. And actually having it *be* a struggle with the main imitation too, having that primal need to assimilate and spread vs the little bits of humanity that are metaphorically infecting it or something...
Maybe take the story, make it no longer the thing and let it be a satire. Dwayne Johnson should be there and so should Jack Black
“What’s the matter? Is staying alive too complicated for you.”
Great line
One thing I wanted to note about the whole 'Antarctica is a continent' thing... based on an offhand comment elsewhere that it's actually an archipelago with an enormous ice cap, I decided to do some digging. And it seems like a good portion of the mass of Antarctica is in fact just Ice, with much of the basis for 'land' below sea level. But from what little investigation I did, it's entirely possible that without the ice, the land would also rise. On top of that, in most places in Antarctica, the ice is over a mile thick. So even if the sub found a place that had no underlying landmass... even Optimus Prime would have a bit of a time getting through a mile of Ice.
These reviews introduced me to my favorite movie of all time aka THE THING 1982.
Dude, same.
An Argentinean myself, our depiction on "Climate of fear" is more realistic than in the previous sequel.
How was the landscape?
Man, it's almost been a decade since you released the first one of those. Holy crap!
I have an idea for a crossover, John Carpenter's The Thing + Star Trek (I think it would be fun to see Starfleet personal having to deal with The Thing & I'm sure Linkara would probably enjoy that kind of crossover, as their probably used to encounters with dangerous alien lifeforms)!
That does exist... to a degree. The episode of DS9 "The Adversary" is heavily based off of "The Thing." It's a continuation of the show's ongoing plot, so it's hard to recommend as a standalone episode, but it has all the good trappings, plus the more idealistic humanized view that Star Trek is famous for. Very good for a tribute.
I have a theory that Mac is immune to assimilation. Given how easy assimilation is in these comics, it's the only explanation as to why he hasn't been taken over.
2:27:48 Bruce Wayne apparently as MacReady is talking to Alfred Pennyworth in these pannels
1:01:00 - Excellent way to edit out Snob and story portion at the same time.
Eternal vows ironically would have made more sense as a hellraiser comic
I like to think that The Thing may acquire certain traits from the creatures it infects, and in the case of that soldier it infected, it unfortunately (for itself) gained the soldier's stupidity which is why it showed itself!
1:52:36 Agapito going full Clint Eastwood never stops being funny.
Actually, there are exceptions to allowing firearms in Antarctica, one of them being used by security personnel at research stations. And it can be argued that flamethrowers can be used to melt snow around doorways, to access storage, or a generator room for power.
1:31:21 Actually, Antarctica isn't an content. it's an archipelago (cluster of islands) with a single huge ice sheet over it. There are plenty of places a sub could get under the antartic ice... But there's no way the sub could break it as that ice is stupid thick!
It’s actually 1:12:51
I think you mean *”t h i c c”*
One of my favorite reviews Linkara has done
Here me out, Arrival, but with the thing. The government figures out a way to get a contaminated person into some secret arctic base observation room, and for a good chunk of the movie, the scientists there try and figure out what it is and try to talk to it. I would watch the hell out of that.
Didn't they kind of mess with that a tad in The Thing video game?
"If you're not familiar with The Thing, here's the basic rundown of all 3 movies":
"Fox doesn't understand the Fantastic Four beyond Johnny annoying Ben every time he gets a chance, annd maybe Doom hates Reed Richards... arguably only because everybody hates Reed Richards".
Wait, what do you mean it's not _that_ Thing!?
Wait, Colonel Palomo? Is he the next Dove of the Hawk and Dove duo?
I love how home video was one of the things that saved John Carpenter's The Thing. Mostly because my family was part of the early home video rental business.
"It is possible that opinions and attitudes expressed at the time may no longer apply at the time this compilation was released."
Linkara: "The Thing prequel is just okay now, I guess."
Wait when did he say that?
I always rewatch these videos.
Thank you for putting them all together like this.
I'M SO FRIGGIN READY!!! I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS ONE!
I like how your opening mimics the credits and colour scheme of the 1982 The Thing. You should have had your hat fly to earth like the saucer did at the beginning.
Love it
Thank you so much for this series Linkara
Imagine letting The Thing loose in THE OCEAN. He had to have been infected, it's the only explanation. Its dominion on Earth is all but guaranteed at that point. All it has to do is get ahold of one tiny fish and it's over. It would be the size of a blue whale in a few days at most.
I've been waiting for this, as I really loved these reviews, now I can rewatch them much easier
I actually have a possible theory about why the thing might not be able to infect plants. It's possible that since Plant cells have cell walls that are designed for protection against mechanical and osmotic stress. Granting I have no idea if the Cell wall might protect against the Thing Cells attempting to infect them, but it feels like a reasonable explanation.
google translate says talvez pueda romandarte translates to maybe i can romance you, but if you change romandarte to remendarte then it becomes “maybe i can patch you up” so yeah just another weird misspelling. OR he was gonna have some weird romantic date with the seal, with how stupid he was already acting that option is just as believable.
Well the first one of these came out right at the beginning after Linkara Described the movie and the premise I actually stopped the review went to Netflix and watched it and absolutely loved it.
I watch it every year and I’ve re-bought it on Blu-ray at least 2 times.
Oh yes and once I finish the movie I came back and watch the review
I always wondered if the Thing was actually a hostile monster bent on taking over the world or just a scared traumatized creature trying to survive in a hostile environment populated with aggressive creature whose biology was utterly alien to it. We don’t know what happened at the Norwegian Base we have no idea who attacked who.
Was the Thing an alien experiment gone horribly wrong? It would be frightening to know that the frozen UFO in the Antartic had more than just one occupant.
@@BBBHuey One idea I really like is that the Thing convinces it's hosts to work with it for their own survival. The thing didn't start by assimilating the humans at the American Camp, just their sled dogs. Desperate terrified creates can often times acts irrationally or aggressively to protect themselves from perceived threats.
It would be good to know what happened at the Norwegian outpost. Though I think the movie thing is malicious or sociopathic on the grounds of If the thing could talk in perfect English, why not at least try to explain the situation? If it’s about preservation well multiple people were infected so he could just sacrifice one to try. plus it still killed a lot of men despite being able to read their minds and shows no signs of empathy or remorse. That qualifies for evil in my book.
Still if there was to be a remake of the thing I would want to see it for the creatures perspective because as amazing as it is we never really got much personality from it despite being a sentient creature capable of universal communications.
isn't that the plot of the 2011 movie?
@@kyletowers9662 we don’t talk about that movie around these parts.
Yessss!!! Now we need a US-1 all in one!
Not going to happen for a few more years, sorry - US-1 still has a few more issues before it's completed.
@@AT4W I desperately await them
Really loved these reviews back in the day. Thanks for uploading the whole... thing **rimshot**
I've rewatched them so many times.
And yet I still hear Star Scream, not Star Stream.
53:50 that's the plot to "the leviathan" its pretty much the thing under water. Its just as good as the thing in my opinion, maybe a lil cheap in some parts
I use flamethrowers at the dairy I work at. Everything freezes in winter,so having a broad flame on long wand is really handy.
You had some winning zingers and remarks about Wormy.
12:00 Missed opportunity: Star Trek VI clip-"Not everyone keeps their genitals in the same place"
Mike Richardson, publisher of Dark Horse, is also the founder of the comic store chain Things From Another World. Probably one of his favorite stories and probably another reason why the title was used instead of just “the Thing”.
I wonder Linkara’s thoughts about the release of Frozen Hell, the extended novel version of Who goes there and the announcement of Studio Blumhouse doing an adaptation of that story.
After watching this a few times, it just struck me. Eternal Vows is basically a vampire story remade with the Thing. Especially the "dead" aspect, and the feeding vs infecting thing. If you made them vampires, except for the shape shifting into fish (rather than bats or wolves or rats or other more traditional vampire shapeshifting), it wouldn't really change much.
In a way, MacReady is performing the van Helsing role.
What i LOVE about John Carpenters The Thing movie is that it plays so heavily on the fact that NONE in team US speaks Norwegian, to the point that IF ANYBODY spoke the language the movie would be over in the intro......how did the prequel fucked that up is a true wonder
SPOILERS
To anyone who hasn't seen the movie or never realized this fact, in the intro there is a guy with a chopper hunting a wolf in the Antarctica, who is dead set paranoid on killing that specific wolf amd nothing else and he (in Norwegian) shouts at the main characters to STAY AWAY FROM THAT THING, IT ISN'T A WOLF, IT IS AN ALIEN SHAPESHIFTING THING THAT KILL HIS ENTIRE TEAM, STAY AWAY FROM IT and then he fires danger close to the us research team and since they are in far better condition than him, they shoot once or twice and kill him....no realizing what did that just started.
I was always surprised that everyone always thinks that Child’s is The Thing and never actually Mac. If they ever did make a sequel you could literally stage it as both men somehow escape and a group of military scientists work with Mac to hunt down Child’s while more Things offspring appear and at the end it turns out Child’s was the human and Mac was the Thing, maybe the creature is clever it wipes its own mind and doesn’t even realize he is the alien but a small part of him has been breaking off and gaslighting himself giving fake memories. Just an idea for something different
Ah thing comics these were fun reviews back in the day and still hold up till this day.
Just what I needed. Thank you
Excuse me, Linkara. I tried to find the websites for the Thing mini series. Did they reveal how the Thing got around the blood test? Since I can't find it, sorry to bother you
I sadly cannot recall. I think it was something along the lines of like willing the piece of itself extracted to not react before it was taken, but they came up with a new test via electricity - since the defibrillator paddles in the movie got the Norris Thing to react even though it was one piece and his body was seemingly dead when it could have just played possum, clearly it didn't like the jolt.
@@AT4W thank you, Sir. I appreciate it. Since I've been wondering that ever since I saw the video. Hope you have a nice day
The opening sequence in the Captain America movie is very reminiscent of the first scenes in the 1950`s The Thing from another world.
Scary thought...If the thing only needs 1 cell to infect someone, whats to stop it from just ejecting cells like a mushroom shooting out spores?
It's so weird seeing Dan's JP3 Page in this video. I used to frequent the message board in the early 2000s.
I do think that the idea of the Thing being infected by humanity's emotions, feelings, and memories could be a really neat story.
But not quite how it was shown in eternal vows.
If you want a story that deals with a predatory alien becoming infected by human emotions like love, I'd recommend Under The Skin starting Scarlet Johansson. Awesome movie
Totally just finished a marathon of these! Welp, guess it's time for ROUND 3
ALRIGHTY. *cracks my writing knuckles and jogs my Author noggin*
So presumably, the idea behind Eternal Vows is an extension of the logic of the Blood Test: The Blood Test works, because when a part of The Thing is separated from it, it becomes its own sentient entity, with its own will. In the Blood Tests case, this means it will ignore the will of the original mind to stay concealed, and simply act to survive.
Eternal Vows seems to posit that if this continued for a longer period of time, where there wasn't a desperate need to escape a location like the Antarctic Base, if they were in a safe location, that any separate Things would start to vie for territory and actually end up against each other. They're not a hive mind, the Blood Test actively disproves this. They ARE an infection that spreads, creating more of itself.
Now, the parts regarding people keeping their own minds, the fact it's "feeding" and "replacing it's own dead cells with peoples living ones" does indeed seem like a load of horse hockey, but the rest seems solid honestly.
The minds are just copies, Word of God(Carpenter) said that anyone assimilated by the thing suffers death of personality. They're dead, it's just copying them.
"Underneath all the snow and stuff, there is a continent! With, y'know, *ground!*"
yeah, so, about that: Antarctica isn't actually one contiguous landmass. It looks like it because of all the ice, but there's actually quite a lot of it that would otherwise be open ocean if not for the ice sheets.
That being said, the submarine *is* still an insanely stupid plot point - the Antarctic ice sheet is still about a mile thick on the average - two and half at its thickest point. Even if a submarine's strong enough to bust through ice that thick, there's not gonna be any water for it to rise up through. Water doesn't typically flow upwards.
Glad to see the Starstream #1 stinger made an appearance at the very end. That was always my favorite of these reviews.
Prequel also missed the opportunity to explore how having two women in the mix would change things. The Norwegian woman is an alien, but instead of using that to its advantage it just jumps out first chance it gets to attack the other woman. Stay hidden, sew confusion and prey on the Norwegian men's desire to protect the feminine, especially from the foreigners.
You think that thing wanted to be animal??
NO DOG CAN RUN A 1000 MILES IN THE COLD!
NOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, THAT THE THING WANTED TO BE UUUSSSSSS!!!!!! 😅
With a little imagination, Dark horse could have had a crossover event ....the Thing from another world meets Predator ( they could've even had the xenomorph). Imagine if you will...according to the AVP movie, the predators used Antarctica as a hunting ground, and the thing crashes...interrupting their ritual...the following conflict allows the xenomorphs to get out of control...forces the predators to use the nuclear option, wiping out that particular civilization and causing the ice age....however the thing survives (freezing/sleeping)first in its ship and then in the ice. NOW IMAGINE...A few thousand years later...the Predators have returned to Earth, on safari....only to discover that "The Thing" has not only survived, but has made it to South America ...of course the predators can see The Thing, due to their masks...let the fight begin. Imagine the money Dark Horse would be making.
You probably know this, but John Carpenter, the director of the Kurt Russell film, loved the 1950s movie. He didn’t even wanna do the remake. He even played clips of it in possibly his most famous movie, Halloween. Plus, the original was based on a book which itself was a rip off from an HP Lovecraft story. So… do with that what you will.
It being based on Lovecraft (admittedly indirectly) does explain why it's tbe closest thing to Cosmic Horror I can think of that's both extremely popular and not books.
@@davidspring4003 I haven’t read the book, but it apparently has a lot more an optimistic ending than the movie. If you’re interested, Dominic Noble did a video where he assesses the adaptation between the book and the Carpenter film. Personally, just as a general rule, I prefer to have my horror films feature a darker or more ambiguous ending like say, the original Halloween (I know about the sequels, but they’re beside the point).
Which H.P. Lovecraft story did it rip off?
@@dubuyajay9964 At The Mountains of Madness, I believe.
@@samuelbarber6177 besides being in the artic, those are still two different stories.
If there's one good thing about these thing from another world comics/reviews it introduced us to Thing Tucker. 😄
I want one of those green three-eyed thing plushies so badly, they're _adorable_.
While you are making these compilations, could you make a compilation of all the Super Hero Dictionary Excerpts? I want to share it with my friends...
I personally enjoy the prequel. Yea the CGI over practical effects was dumb, but I genuinely liked what we've got especially the ending. As for the Thing being reckless, well like an intelligent animal, it learns from mistakes.
.... you know, if the theory about the Thing being a prisoner on the crashed ship is correct, that WOULD explain why the ship is so damn flammable in every story that it appears in. Like, that might have been a deliberate failsafe to try and make sure the Thing goes down with the ship if anything goes wrong. Although it didn't quite work.
I always attributed it to the fact that it's an alien vessel, so on whatever planet it originated from the material wouldn't seem so combustible as opposed to Earth's atmosphere.
As for the Thing, I'm of the camp that believes the alien UFO was originally piloted by scientists that collected specimens from other worlds for research but had the unfortunate luck of collecting a creature that was actually the Thing in disguise.
About yhr Spanish part of Climate of Fear: as someone who speaks both languages and makes a living by translating, I can see what they tried to do. They made the dialogue sound like it was being said in argentinian accent, the issue is that the way they talk is clearly directly translated from English, no adaptation besides the mild spelling changes of the accent.
And no, I have no blody idea of what "romendarte" is.
The only thing I can think of is two misspellings: 1) "recomendarte" literally recommend you but in this case it would be endorse someone for a position. 2) "Adoptarte" adopt you. That's it.
Most people seem to be saying that they were going for remendarte.
@@AT4W
Oh. Okay yeah, kind of a weird word to use when referring to an animal as it generally refers to clothing but can be used that way.
Why did we even need a thing prequel because the original John carpetener thing movie is really awesome and really didn’t need a prequel.
I think some people wanted to know how the Norwegians discovered the Thing before they got massacred.
@@BBBHuey true and you're right about that
The Micheal Myers reference had mr dying!!!
I gotta call Lewis out on the whole language thing. In Europe, almost everyone is taught multiple languages. French, German, and English are the three most popular languages, as they are also the most widespread. Its a very American idea that other people only speak their native language. Most Norwegians can probably speak English better then a native English speaker, because that's just how it is over there.
And that is a fair enough argument. Counter-argument, though: when there is more growing paranoia among the characters, why don't some of the Norwegians ONLY speak in Norwegian to each other privately so the American can't understand them? Again, utilize it properly in the story to build tension, otherwise why even have an American as part of the group at all?
@@AT4W I get ya. I think its an idea that isn't properly explored. It would have been cool for them to speak in their native language to keep their plans secret. For me, it was a studio saying, "Oh they all need to speak English because the audience doesn't want to read subtitles." I just always think its funny when people in America seem to think Europeans ONLY speak their native language, when most countries require at least three extra languages in school.
BBC also did an adaptation of Who goes there? In none other than Tom Baker's Doctor Who!
Nice! What's the title of the episode?
1:32:10
"No Corporal, you're next on the kill list.."
2:15:00 - might possibly one of my favourite Linkara jokes ever.
2:17:10
I’m fairly certain that’s a blue bottle jellyfish
It looks just like one.
And even then, that makes LESS sense.
Is it me or does Douglas from Questionable Research look a bit like Pat Boivin of PatStaresAt and formerly of Best Friends Play? Ironically, he isn't even the first character from the thing to look like Pat; Bennings from the movie kinda looked like him, too.
John Carpenter's The Thing does prove that some remakes can be better than the original! Though the prequel proves that CGI & poorly written scientist characters who are stupid will never beat practical effects & well written characters!