You know NRS completely ran out of ideas and shit the bed when in the most recent MK game, they changed Skorpion from 'A Specter of hate, rage and vengeance" to 'he's a fire ninja because his brothers an ice ninja :)'
Oh yea, that's one of my least favorite things about MK1's story. I thought maybe the family dynamic could be cool, but it wasn't done well at all (shocker). So they basically ereased and massacred Hanzo's story for nothing. Such a terrible decision. Def will expand more on this in a future video, too
Bros turning into the 4thsnake 💀. But in a serious note, as much as i think the old timeline is peak, i feel that kuai in THAT timeline was also kinda lacking. Nrs era kuai (and to an extent m1k kuai) had way more potential than mk1-mka and well... This video explains what went wrong. Ironically, i think the best depiction of kuai is mk legends snowblind because it gives us a completely different depiction of kuai. M1k had potential with Scorpion kuai liang but seems like now hes just hanzo but a different name and no interesting traits.
Haha, yea. Spot on, tho man. I agree that NRS Kuai Liang had the most potential of all of them, and I'm disappointed they didn't do more with him. And MK1 Kuai is interesting being Scorpion and all, It does just feel like a rebrand of Hanzo and a bit more boring. Og timeline Kuai was def lacking too, tho. So overall, Mk9-MK11 Kuai is my favorite vers of him, and I like a lot of what they did, I just wish they really put their foot on the gas and committed to what was interesting about him Edit: Also I agree that Snowblind Sub was incredible. Prob my fav MK legends movie
For sure, man. I'm really happy with making these and the reception I've gotten on these. I will for sure be diving into all sorts of media I like. Mostly games but def the occasional movie/series/book as well. And I'm happy to see you stick around the channel through it all. You a real OG fs
I gotta play mk9 now. I have played Shouling Monks, Mk3,4,5, mkx, mk11 and 1 but not 9. I heard a lot of people say that mk9 is the best mk, so Im really looking forward to it
Future video title ideas The Shattered Legacy Of Hanzo Hasashi: A Burning Disgrace The Shattered Legacy Of Johnny Cage: A Fallen Star The Shattered Legacy Of Sonya Blade: A Forgotten Heroine The Shattered Legacy Of Kitana: A Princess Without A Kingdom The Shattered Legacy Of Liu Kang: A False God
I really enjoyed this video, you should do one for some midway stories of the mk characters, I think you'll like Sub-Zero/Kuai Liang's storylines from MK2 till MKA.
@ Can’t wait for it, there was alot of interesting stories in the MK Midway games that were super interesting and it’s sad we’ll never get to see them again.
I read this fanfiction called Mortal Kombat Second Chances by GameTitan5, where its main OC character is involved in the MK2011 story while addressing the plot holes for a more meaningful impact to the characters featured in the game. I'd give hints, but it would be better if you read the whole thing for yourself and see how much better it did MK2011 justice than what NRS did.
not making this shit up that's literally dialog in the game: >hey sub-zero weren't you a cyborg ninja at the end of the last game? >i choose my normal form as a revenant entire audience: YOU CAN CHOOSE!? WHY AREN'T CYRAX AND SEKTOR REVENANTS and then he proceeds to make tea
Some of the changes to the lore in MK9 might not be everyone’s tea, but there’s a reason why it’s remembered so fondly & why it’s considered one of if not, the best MK game of all time.
6:55 - I fully agree with you. NRS cannot commit to anything storywise. I just realized that consciously. Thanks! I mean even at the ending of MKX when Raiden turns a little evil but then in MK11 that's undone again as nice Raiden spawns back. Or Mileena's personality, which is different in each game. Or Scorpion's and SubZero's terrible and dirty looking beards haha (btw. Hanzo's should burn off anytime he does Scorpion-stuff and Sub Zero's would freeze frost from his breath on the hair)
Haha yea exactly. They just can't commit to anything, which results in a jumbled mess of unfinished plot elements. (The flaming beard might go hard for scorpion actually lol)
Just sub and amazing job keep them coming also can I ask you something if I may also I found you form the for honor Apollyon video just so you know and you did an amazing job on that one because I love for honor but sadly I haven’t played it yet but I with to
Thanks man I'm glad you enjoyed the content! You should def at least give For Honor a try if you are interested, its super fun. Appreciate the comment and happy holidays!
Fabulous video, man. Now I get why I’ve almost always preferred Bi-Han. This might just land me in hot water, but imo, Kuai Liang *should’ve stayed cyberized* - or at least for a few games. And if they decided they were going to reverse-cyberize him, it should have been shown *in game.* Also, is it just me, or does Kuai genuinely not care for his brother, Bi-Han - or even his best friend, Tomas, post MK9? Because he doesn’t seem to be in such a rush to free them from their corrupted revenant forms, those of course being Enenra and Saibot?
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!🔥 Yea, I 100% agree. He totally should have stayed cyberized. It would've made for much more natural story progression and made a legitimately tragic and incredible character arc. Coulda had his story revolve around trying to regain his humanity. Nah, I noticed that, too. He doesn't really care all that much about Bi-Han or Tomas after MK9. Basically does nothing about them nor does he seem to care. Another writing oversight by NRS. And more missed story opportunities. Would've been perfect to add this to an arc of Kuai Liang regaining his humanity. Not just his own, but his family and clan too
@@vikingfromnorth45 Oh sh-!… Wasn’t that the intro where someone (I presume Bi-Han) mentioned Smoke was condemned to the Netherrealm or was that someone else?
WRONG, kuai loves his brother. bi han is just an ass (does he even love kuai?) in kuai's arcade ending in mk11 he rewrote time so he can work side by side with his brother.
Ah man lol. That depends on if i were to write it off of my ideas for MK11 or if id be forced to write it after the MK11 reset. I think this would make a great video idea tho
Hmm, there's a lot to think about after that reset, but I'll keep it short and simple here, and I will most likely make a full video at some point going over this better. First, I'd remove the dumb multiverse thing where Shang Tsungs ending was also canon cuz that's stupid and confuses things. Then, I'd likely start with having Onaga be set up to be the first big bad, but I'd prefer to spend more time on grounded character dynamics/relationships/conflicts before concluding Onaga's reign. I would set up the conflict between HANZO'S Scorpion and Bi-Han's Sub-Zero with Kuai Liang getting caught in the crossfire. I'd set up the Edenians IN Edenia and make Mileena Kitana's true sister until she's warped by Shao Kahn/Shang Tsung. Finally, I'd reintroduce the Order and Chaos realm's as well with Hotaru and Havik being at war. I'd start with all that, lol. But I can go on and on with this, and it certainly warrants its own video
@@VenomousHero993 The big changes I would make is I would bring in a new incarnation of the Kombat kids consisting of smoke,Satoshi and Frost……as Quan Chi never became a great sorcerer ….the shia Ryu were never wiped out so Satoshi grew up take on the mantle of his father I would have Smoke be the traitor because Damashi tells him that he is destined to die in all Timelines ….either by being converted into a ninja or becoming a Demon so he is desperate to avoid that fate so turns against Liu kang in order to survive I would make Dark raiden the big villain. He was banished to the void by Kronika and spent eons trapped in darkness…..slowly going more and more insane and corrupted by the essence of shinnok….. He finally escapes and finds himself in Liu kangs timeline and is absolutely horrified and disgusted at what he see,s evil is not only allowed to flourish but is rewarded. Sindel is allowed to rule the realm she once enslaved, Shao is given prestige as a General…….monsters like shang and Quan chi are given mundane life rather than being erased The implication would be that Kronika did this every reset as a contingency if abyone ever bested her …..if she cant rule then no one can So driven by Shinnoks evil Raiden concocts the whole Damashi routine with shang …….he wants to show liu kang that they are beyond redemption and deserve to be wiped out….. The climax would be liu kang defeating Raiden but rather than killing him he shows mercy and extracts the corruption of his soul which appears as this huge demonic creature with kronikas face (shes the one who imbued shinnok with that corruption to make him her bringer of evil ) so its the last part of Kronika wnd connection to the past that has to be killed
These are some great ideas, too. Certainly, there are a lot of BETTER ideas than what we got. I really like the revamped kombat kids with Satoshi, too. Great ideas all around for sure🔥
What if Kuai Liang’s original codename was Hydro instead of Tundra? That way, he wouldn’t be too much like Sub Zero until he takes the Sub Zero mantle after his older brother Bi Han dies and comes back as Noob Saibot.
Interesting video. The only thing i might disagree with is Bi-hans betrayal as he is being controlled and deluded by Quan chi. So for me its no different than when kuai liang was cyborized or when he became a revenant himself and was forced to do a lot of things he didn't want to do either. Which is my issue with MK11 as if anyone were to understand what Bi-han was going through it wouod be kuai-liang but no Bi-han is just evil and deserves no sympathy or help from anyone. In short both Sub-zero's deserved better imo.
Yea, that's actually a great point. I might need to reconsider the intentions of Bi-Han then. Because he would technically still be under the influence of Quan Chi as Noob Saibot since he'd be a revenant. Good point. I'll have to reconsider this later whenever I make a Bi-Han video
I disagree, I don't think he's a saint but he's far from being on the same level as the other villains. It's been shown that he's capable of doing good and has a certain level of awareness of his actions I mean, he literally had sympathy for a demon that was trying to kill him and not only that, he held her in his arms when she was killed and if he was just evil he would never try to If he had explained himself to Scorpion, he would not have tried to help Raiden, much less would he have refused Quan Chi's offer.
3rd not 2nd. It was rebooted a 2nd time within the last game, of the 3 u mean. Tobias is gone, so kiss ur hope 4 good writing good by. Not even leaving wb can do it. The decay began under midway, when they had only tobias' opened plots to go of. As soon new plots had to b included, u could see, how talent free boon is for storytelling. Look at armageddon's conquest. Anything resembling ideas of a story beyond reason x to make the upcoming fight necessary, was recycled older ideas by tobias, that went nowhere in the past n mk8 (Mk vs dc) was laughably stupid. It also was te level of creativity u can expect, if the reboot cruch can't b used, since it's vital as tool that allows them to repackage old ideas. It would b just sad, but the prices they demand for this increasingly sub par product, plus their price politics, doing sales that become punishment to preorderers who not only have to pay full, but also all, where later buyers get one of the added content packs for free... it's infuriating.
You know NRS completely ran out of ideas and shit the bed when in the most recent MK game, they changed Skorpion from 'A Specter of hate, rage and vengeance" to 'he's a fire ninja because his brothers an ice ninja :)'
I know this is a video about Sub-Zero, but I'll never forgive NRS for how they massacred Hanzo's story for the laziest writing possible.
Oh yea, that's one of my least favorite things about MK1's story. I thought maybe the family dynamic could be cool, but it wasn't done well at all (shocker). So they basically ereased and massacred Hanzo's story for nothing. Such a terrible decision. Def will expand more on this in a future video, too
@@ahubb21yep
dude MK X ruined everything
>scorpion is not a specter reborn in netherrealm - he's a revenant and stomping quan chi's balls restores him
like what XD
@ryszakowy yep nrs is ass.
Cycrax and subzero always been my favorite characters, so having cyber subzero was a blessing at that time to me lol 😂
RIP Sub-Zero.
"Search wasted potential" 😔
Incredible editing on this video, it should be much more popular than it is.
Thank you! I'm happy you enjoyed it!🔥
I hate how they treated my Boy Sub Zero
Great video and cant wait for the scorpion and raiden videos. Keep it up
Thank you🔥 Glad you enjoyed!
Bros turning into the 4thsnake 💀. But in a serious note, as much as i think the old timeline is peak, i feel that kuai in THAT timeline was also kinda lacking. Nrs era kuai (and to an extent m1k kuai) had way more potential than mk1-mka and well... This video explains what went wrong. Ironically, i think the best depiction of kuai is mk legends snowblind because it gives us a completely different depiction of kuai. M1k had potential with Scorpion kuai liang but seems like now hes just hanzo but a different name and no interesting traits.
Haha, yea. Spot on, tho man. I agree that NRS Kuai Liang had the most potential of all of them, and I'm disappointed they didn't do more with him. And MK1 Kuai is interesting being Scorpion and all, It does just feel like a rebrand of Hanzo and a bit more boring. Og timeline Kuai was def lacking too, tho. So overall, Mk9-MK11 Kuai is my favorite vers of him, and I like a lot of what they did, I just wish they really put their foot on the gas and committed to what was interesting about him
Edit: Also I agree that Snowblind Sub was incredible. Prob my fav MK legends movie
@VenomousHero993 I'd like to see you review movies like those too lol. Think Ur channel is growing more with Ur deep dive analysis videos
For sure, man. I'm really happy with making these and the reception I've gotten on these. I will for sure be diving into all sorts of media I like. Mostly games but def the occasional movie/series/book as well. And I'm happy to see you stick around the channel through it all. You a real OG fs
Brooo keep going!!!! your channel is amazing I just discovered it through your raiden video you just dropped 🔥
Thank you! I'm really happy you enjoy the content🔥💯
@ most definitely keep it up‼️
I gotta play mk9 now. I have played Shouling Monks, Mk3,4,5, mkx, mk11 and 1 but not 9. I heard a lot of people say that mk9 is the best mk, so Im really looking forward to it
Its really good for sure. I prefer the gameplay of MKX but MK9 is fire
Future video title ideas
The Shattered Legacy Of Hanzo Hasashi: A Burning Disgrace
The Shattered Legacy Of Johnny Cage: A Fallen Star
The Shattered Legacy Of Sonya Blade: A Forgotten Heroine
The Shattered Legacy Of Kitana: A Princess Without A Kingdom
The Shattered Legacy Of Liu Kang: A False God
All 🔥 ideas
I really enjoyed this video, you should do one for some midway stories of the mk characters, I think you'll like Sub-Zero/Kuai Liang's storylines from MK2 till MKA.
Definitely a great idea. I plan on doing lots of MK content. So I'll keep that in mind for some future videos!🔥
@ Can’t wait for it, there was alot of interesting stories in the MK Midway games that were super interesting and it’s sad we’ll never get to see them again.
I read this fanfiction called Mortal Kombat Second Chances by GameTitan5, where its main OC character is involved in the MK2011 story while addressing the plot holes for a more meaningful impact to the characters featured in the game. I'd give hints, but it would be better if you read the whole thing for yourself and see how much better it did MK2011 justice than what NRS did.
This sounds pretty cool. I'll try and check it out soon
after mk9 the story went to shit
Agreed
not making this shit up that's literally dialog in the game:
>hey sub-zero weren't you a cyborg ninja at the end of the last game?
>i choose my normal form as a revenant
entire audience: YOU CAN CHOOSE!? WHY AREN'T CYRAX AND SEKTOR REVENANTS
and then he proceeds to make tea
Lmao ikr💀💀 its so lame
Some of the changes to the lore in MK9 might not be everyone’s tea, but there’s a reason why it’s remembered so fondly & why it’s considered one of if not, the best MK game of all time.
One of the best for sure. Great start to a reboot for the franchise and some great gameplay as well💯
6:55 - I fully agree with you. NRS cannot commit to anything storywise. I just realized that consciously. Thanks!
I mean even at the ending of MKX when Raiden turns a little evil but then in MK11 that's undone again as nice Raiden spawns back. Or Mileena's personality, which is different in each game. Or Scorpion's and SubZero's terrible and dirty looking beards haha (btw. Hanzo's should burn off anytime he does Scorpion-stuff and Sub Zero's would freeze frost from his breath on the hair)
Haha yea exactly. They just can't commit to anything, which results in a jumbled mess of unfinished plot elements. (The flaming beard might go hard for scorpion actually lol)
Just sub and amazing job keep them coming also can I ask you something if I may also I found you form the for honor Apollyon video just so you know and you did an amazing job on that one because I love for honor but sadly I haven’t played it yet but I with to
Thanks man I'm glad you enjoyed the content! You should def at least give For Honor a try if you are interested, its super fun. Appreciate the comment and happy holidays!
@ one your welcome two I will ones I get the chance also two can I do react to your videos the SA ones if I my? Four Happy holidays to you as will
Sure! Go ahead, just make sure you tag my channel and leave credit for it when you do. Appreciate you askin bro
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Fabulous video, man. Now I get why I’ve almost always preferred Bi-Han.
This might just land me in hot water, but imo, Kuai Liang *should’ve stayed cyberized* - or at least for a few games. And if they decided they were going to reverse-cyberize him, it should have been shown *in game.*
Also, is it just me, or does Kuai genuinely not care for his brother, Bi-Han - or even his best friend, Tomas, post MK9? Because he doesn’t seem to be in such a rush to free them from their corrupted revenant forms, those of course being Enenra and Saibot?
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!🔥
Yea, I 100% agree. He totally should have stayed cyberized. It would've made for much more natural story progression and made a legitimately tragic and incredible character arc. Coulda had his story revolve around trying to regain his humanity.
Nah, I noticed that, too. He doesn't really care all that much about Bi-Han or Tomas after MK9. Basically does nothing about them nor does he seem to care. Another writing oversight by NRS. And more missed story opportunities. Would've been perfect to add this to an arc of Kuai Liang regaining his humanity. Not just his own, but his family and clan too
He still cares he got angry that bihan mentioned smoke in mk11
@@vikingfromnorth45 Oh sh-!… Wasn’t that the intro where someone (I presume Bi-Han) mentioned Smoke was condemned to the Netherrealm or was that someone else?
@ yes that was him
WRONG, kuai loves his brother. bi han is just an ass (does he even love kuai?) in kuai's arcade ending in mk11 he rewrote time so he can work side by side with his brother.
Proof the old era had better writing
Till this day I still believe Sub-Zero was meant to be Bi-han in MKX and things were changed last second to accommodate Kuai Liang.
I’ve been a massive Scorpion fan for 30 years but I actually agree with you
This was a good video
I'm glad you enjoyed!🔥
How would you have written mk1? I,d love to hear your thoughts
Ah man lol. That depends on if i were to write it off of my ideas for MK11 or if id be forced to write it after the MK11 reset. I think this would make a great video idea tho
@@VenomousHero993 I would assume after the actual mk11 to make it fear and give yourself more restraints
Hmm, there's a lot to think about after that reset, but I'll keep it short and simple here, and I will most likely make a full video at some point going over this better.
First, I'd remove the dumb multiverse thing where Shang Tsungs ending was also canon cuz that's stupid and confuses things. Then, I'd likely start with having Onaga be set up to be the first big bad, but I'd prefer to spend more time on grounded character dynamics/relationships/conflicts before concluding Onaga's reign. I would set up the conflict between HANZO'S Scorpion and Bi-Han's Sub-Zero with Kuai Liang getting caught in the crossfire. I'd set up the Edenians IN Edenia and make Mileena Kitana's true sister until she's warped by Shao Kahn/Shang Tsung. Finally, I'd reintroduce the Order and Chaos realm's as well with Hotaru and Havik being at war.
I'd start with all that, lol. But I can go on and on with this, and it certainly warrants its own video
@@VenomousHero993 The big changes I would make is I would bring in a new incarnation of the Kombat kids consisting of smoke,Satoshi and Frost……as Quan Chi never became a great sorcerer ….the shia Ryu were never wiped out so Satoshi grew up take on the mantle of his father
I would have Smoke be the traitor because Damashi tells him that he is destined to die in all Timelines ….either by being converted into a ninja or becoming a Demon so he is desperate to avoid that fate so turns against Liu kang in order to survive
I would make Dark raiden the big villain. He was banished to the void by Kronika and spent eons trapped in darkness…..slowly going more and more insane and corrupted by the essence of shinnok…..
He finally escapes and finds himself in Liu kangs timeline and is absolutely horrified and disgusted at what he see,s evil is not only allowed to flourish but is rewarded. Sindel is allowed to rule the realm she once enslaved, Shao is given prestige as a General…….monsters like shang and Quan chi are given mundane life rather than being erased
The implication would be that Kronika did this every reset as a contingency if abyone ever bested her …..if she cant rule then no one can
So driven by Shinnoks evil Raiden concocts the whole Damashi routine with shang …….he wants to show liu kang that they are beyond redemption and deserve to be wiped out…..
The climax would be liu kang defeating Raiden but rather than killing him he shows mercy and extracts the corruption of his soul which appears as this huge demonic creature with kronikas face (shes the one who imbued shinnok with that corruption to make him her bringer of evil ) so its the last part of Kronika wnd connection to the past that has to be killed
These are some great ideas, too. Certainly, there are a lot of BETTER ideas than what we got. I really like the revamped kombat kids with Satoshi, too. Great ideas all around for sure🔥
What if Kuai Liang’s original codename was Hydro instead of Tundra? That way, he wouldn’t be too much like Sub Zero until he takes the Sub Zero mantle after his older brother Bi Han dies and comes back as Noob Saibot.
@MartinRoebuck925 that a better Origin story than anything NRS did with M1K.
Interesting video. The only thing i might disagree with is Bi-hans betrayal as he is being controlled and deluded by Quan chi. So for me its no different than when kuai liang was cyborized or when he became a revenant himself and was forced to do a lot of things he didn't want to do either. Which is my issue with MK11 as if anyone were to understand what Bi-han was going through it wouod be kuai-liang but no Bi-han is just evil and deserves no sympathy or help from anyone.
In short both Sub-zero's deserved better imo.
Yea, that's actually a great point. I might need to reconsider the intentions of Bi-Han then. Because he would technically still be under the influence of Quan Chi as Noob Saibot since he'd be a revenant. Good point. I'll have to reconsider this later whenever I make a Bi-Han video
I disagree, I don't think he's a saint but he's far from being on the same level as the other villains. It's been shown that he's capable of doing good and has a certain level of awareness of his actions I mean, he literally had sympathy for a demon that was trying to kill him and not only that, he held her in his arms when she was killed and if he was just evil he would never try to If he had explained himself to Scorpion, he would not have tried to help Raiden, much less would he have refused Quan Chi's offer.
I knew he was doomed since they made him gay with scorpion in mkx
I see old sch Mortal Kombat channel its an easy sub
Thank you🔥
3rd not 2nd. It was rebooted a 2nd time within the last game, of the 3 u mean. Tobias is gone, so kiss ur hope 4 good writing good by. Not even leaving wb can do it. The decay began under midway, when they had only tobias' opened plots to go of. As soon new plots had to b included, u could see, how talent free boon is for storytelling.
Look at armageddon's conquest. Anything resembling ideas of a story beyond reason x to make the upcoming fight necessary, was recycled older ideas by tobias, that went nowhere in the past n mk8 (Mk vs dc) was laughably stupid. It also was te level of creativity u can expect, if the reboot cruch can't b used, since it's vital as tool that allows them to repackage old ideas.
It would b just sad, but the prices they demand for this increasingly sub par product, plus their price politics, doing sales that become punishment to preorderers who not only have to pay full, but also all, where later buyers get one of the added content packs for free... it's infuriating.
NRS are gay