Wow. I remember the massive Hampton and Neagle overpays. Colorado had to massively overpay to get pitchers to sign there. It was the same offseason (after 2000) when A Rod joined Texas.
23:30.. completely agree Joel.. getting on HOF ballot is an accomplishment in itself. IMO, There are four cats of MLB player: 1. First ballot HOFer, 2. HOF player, 3. HOF ballot player, 4. Everyone else.
Some of the best Yankee trades were executed by the late great GM Gene Michael when he traded for Paul O'Neill and Tino Martinez/ Jeff Nelson. Unfortunately Cashman can't come close to being the GM that Michael was.
I’m Canadian and Toronto is not a huge baseball market. They routinely have a half empty stadiums, and frankly, the country doesn’t have the same fandom as US markets, unless we’re talking hockey. Soto, like Ohtani, won’t play in Canada ever despite being offered $700mil.
The Yankees insistence on chasing shiny objects starting with Jason Giambi is the reason the franchise has been derailed for the better part of the last 24 years with one incomplete roster after another thanks to a grossly incompetent GM. 🤷♂️
What does that have to do with wgat i said ? And btw Steinbrenner wanted clemens and justice who were instrumental in them winning the series in 99 and 2000. George also wanted arod, who also was instrumental in winning the 09 ws . And of course there was cc sabbathia and texiera who were gotten as free agents . Without arod , tex and cc, they dont win in 09 either
Normally i would say its in the yanks best interests to let soto walk but without soto this team is nothing more than a wc contender at best . Especially if he goes to boston .
Soto is a rare player that comes along once in a life time in there prime of there career like Judge and Ohtani and you can say Trout as well. Yes he is a must sign for the Yankees. Yankees made if to world series The Mets havent won since 86 Jays are in another country and Redsox are multiple players away from being a winning team never mind playoff team. So you saying Yankees are better adding other average players as a better plan b is crazy. You better off saying that about the Red sox Jays and Mets they are better off getting multiple players to compete. Yankees get Soto they just need to add 1B a couple of bullpen players and maybe another SP. Adding Soto this year would be like a 16 mil difference you paid him 31 mil last year. They lost Rizzo Torres Holmes Kanhle and few more salaries. They can also move Stroman Cortes DJ Trevino and Grisham salaries this off season and add and Arenado with prospect take a DJ off are hands then add Mad Max one year deal move Cortes and prospect to get 1B makes Yankees even better with Soto. Soto is a one in lifetime player to add plus he will make your team crazy money
yankees had a more than reliable starting pitcher pitch 2 gems for them in the WS and lost both games. While the dodgers won the WS with 2 real starters lol. Obviously starting pitching is not everything especially if you lacking in other areas
@@DannyD0816cole didn’t lose that game defense and the not hitting lost his games. Cole dominated the dodgers both games. As a Mets fan I’ll be pissed if we don’t sign a reliable starter like Burnes that’s a real Ace.
They have Senga, Peterson, Montas. If they go 6 man rotation, they basically need 1,3,4. There’s plenty of pitching out there for them to fill those slots. They certainly have enough money to do it. It’s just a matter if if they get them. But if they get a guy like Burnes or Fried, then they’re good and all they need is 2 other decent starters. Maybe sign Manaea as 3. Senga could move up to 2, then get Burnes let’s say. You’d have: Burnes, Senga, Manaea, Peterson, Montas, (fill in an average pitcher here) With that type of rotation, they’re perfect. All they need is a good strong bullpen. they already have Diaz. They need a setup guy, and fill out the lineup with soto and Alonso. I mean Soto is gonna be the deciding factor here. If they don’t get him, I don’t see them winning the World Series, or even making it to the WS over the dodgers.
@ if they don’t get a good rotation they not winning nothin. I don’t think getting Soto is a make or break for this team because there’s other good hitters in the market that can help out the Mets also. But I will be sooooooo disappointed if they don’t get Burnes and manea,fried or crochet. I want a rotation with strong bullpen. They definitely have the money But them signing montas which he’s hot garbage points to them not trying to spend on an ace. We made it to playoffs we supposed to adding to this team and making in stronger. The dodgers is pretty much flexing on every team and getting better than last year. Why is the Mets looking into clay homes as starter,Mike siroka as starter. We shouldn’t be entertaining this and moving like a small market team. Leave that to the brewers,Tampa and Oakland. No lie this is how the Mets win the winter meetings. Getting Burnes, Soto or Santander, brining back Pete,iglesia,manea and trading McNeil so Acuña can start @ second.
all 4 of these teams are foolish. You know the kind of team u could field instead of getting Soto? lol. Go get Walker, Burnes, Profar, trade for LuBob and Arenado. it's a no brainer to me.
@@LoSoNBanks22 I hope they do. Mets will be getting a one dimensional player who is a subpar outfielder and baserunner. Good luck with the ticket prices.
@@fernandoposada5440 wrong, Yankees have way too many holes to fill and to spend all this money on one player is not a smart thing to do. Yanks need a 1st baseman, a third baseman, a leftfielder, a backup catcher, at minimum another starter, a closer etc.
Wrong? They won only 94 games with soto . Barely 3 games ahead of baltimore , and 8 ahead of kc for the final wc spot. And that was with soto . 2023 they didnt have soto and missed the playoffs . And the only one of note that they added was soto . You do the math
@@fernandoposada5440 Judge was out of the lineup for half the 2023 season which sunk the season. Then Rizzo got hurt and missed 50 games. Soto is a very good offensive player but that's not worth $600M over how many years. With the $600M you can fill numerous holes on the Yankees roster. I am surprised at your lack of understanding on this. Haven't you seen all the bad long-term contracts that became albatrosses?
And judge didnt show up until almost the second half of the season. But who carried the yankees offense while judge hut terribly? Soto . Who carried the offense in the second half with judge when volpe and verfujo sucked and stanton got hurt? Soto
Wow. I remember the massive Hampton and Neagle overpays. Colorado had to massively overpay to get pitchers to sign there. It was the same offseason (after 2000) when A Rod joined Texas.
Really appreciate this podcast esp in the off season!
23:30.. completely agree Joel.. getting on HOF ballot is an accomplishment in itself.
IMO, There are four cats of MLB player:
1. First ballot HOFer, 2. HOF player, 3. HOF ballot player, 4. Everyone else.
Some of the best Yankee trades were executed by the late great GM Gene Michael when he traded for Paul O'Neill and Tino Martinez/ Jeff Nelson. Unfortunately Cashman can't come close to being the GM that Michael was.
I’m Canadian and Toronto is not a huge baseball market. They routinely have a half empty stadiums, and frankly, the country doesn’t have the same fandom as US markets, unless we’re talking hockey. Soto, like Ohtani, won’t play in Canada ever despite being offered $700mil.
The Yankees insistence on chasing shiny objects starting with Jason Giambi is the reason the franchise has been derailed for the better part of the last 24 years with one incomplete roster after another thanks to a grossly incompetent GM. 🤷♂️
You forget how they got , the 99 , 2000 and the 09 championships huh?
Steinbrenner wanted Giambi. Not Cashman. Do better.
What does that have to do with wgat i said ? And btw Steinbrenner wanted clemens and justice who were instrumental in them winning the series in 99 and 2000. George also wanted arod, who also was instrumental in winning the 09 ws . And of course there was cc sabbathia and texiera who were gotten as free agents . Without arod , tex and cc, they dont win in 09 either
GM? Most big trades and signings are directly done by the Steinbrenners GMs are there to just dumpster dive afterwards
@@fernandoposada5440 George was a vegetable by 2009. He didn't know his own name!
O’Dowd is spot on. This guy knows his sport.
Rather have him as our GM than Trashman.
Agree. O’Dowd is the goods. Smart guy
Dan O Dowd Is a Smart Bloke!
Yea Dan genius idea let Soto walk and go after Nolan i see why you aren’t in a GM seat anymore.
😂😂😂
You are in NY you can go big and make big money
On the hook for years to come. These long term deals NEVER end well. Look up Anaheim Angels for starters. Re-Focus and put a “Team” together.
Normally i would say its in the yanks best interests to let soto walk but without soto this team is nothing more than a wc contender at best . Especially if he goes to boston .
Soto is Jeter with power, pay the guy!
Without the glove and knowledge of the game, oh and leadership. Terrible comparison.
Soto is a rare player that comes along once in a life time in there prime of there career like Judge and Ohtani and you can say Trout as well. Yes he is a must sign for the Yankees. Yankees made if to world series The Mets havent won since 86 Jays are in another country and Redsox are multiple players away from being a winning team never mind playoff team. So you saying Yankees are better adding other average players as a better plan b is crazy. You better off saying that about the Red sox Jays and Mets they are better off getting multiple players to compete. Yankees get Soto they just need to add 1B a couple of bullpen players and maybe another SP. Adding Soto this year would be like a 16 mil difference you paid him 31 mil last year. They lost Rizzo Torres Holmes Kanhle and few more salaries. They can also move Stroman Cortes DJ Trevino and Grisham salaries this off season and add and Arenado with prospect take a DJ off are hands then add Mad Max one year deal move Cortes and prospect to get 1B makes Yankees even better with Soto. Soto is a one in lifetime player to add plus he will make your team crazy money
Let Soto go!!
Why cant Judge play left field?
Soto is fleecing whoever gets him he is not worth the money he is going to get. Insanity
I can see why Dowd is a guest on someone else's show and not a GM. He's a guy who's time has come and gone.
Why do you say that?
Why do say that?
The Mets right now don’t have 1 reliable starting pitcher
yankees had a more than reliable starting pitcher pitch 2 gems for them in the WS and lost both games. While the dodgers won the WS with 2 real starters lol. Obviously starting pitching is not everything especially if you lacking in other areas
Both those games you speak of were by cole . Rest of the rotation didnt really show up in the playofffs
@@DannyD0816cole didn’t lose that game defense and the not hitting lost his games. Cole dominated the dodgers both games. As a Mets fan I’ll be pissed if we don’t sign a reliable starter like Burnes that’s a real Ace.
They have Senga, Peterson, Montas. If they go 6 man rotation, they basically need 1,3,4.
There’s plenty of pitching out there for them to fill those slots. They certainly have enough money to do it. It’s just a matter if if they get them. But if they get a guy like Burnes or Fried, then they’re good and all they need is 2 other decent starters. Maybe sign Manaea as 3. Senga could move up to 2, then get Burnes let’s say. You’d have:
Burnes, Senga, Manaea, Peterson, Montas, (fill in an average pitcher here)
With that type of rotation, they’re perfect. All they need is a good strong bullpen. they already have Diaz. They need a setup guy, and fill out the lineup with soto and Alonso. I mean Soto is gonna be the deciding factor here. If they don’t get him, I don’t see them winning the World Series, or even making it to the WS over the dodgers.
@ if they don’t get a good rotation they not winning nothin. I don’t think getting Soto is a make or break for this team because there’s other good hitters in the market that can help out the Mets also. But I will be sooooooo disappointed if they don’t get Burnes and manea,fried or crochet. I want a rotation with strong bullpen. They definitely have the money But them signing montas which he’s hot garbage points to them not trying to spend on an ace. We made it to playoffs we supposed to adding to this team and making in stronger. The dodgers is pretty much flexing on every team and getting better than last year. Why is the Mets looking into clay homes as starter,Mike siroka as starter. We shouldn’t be entertaining this and moving like a small market team. Leave that to the brewers,Tampa and Oakland. No lie this is how the Mets win the winter meetings. Getting Burnes, Soto or Santander, brining back Pete,iglesia,manea and trading McNeil so Acuña can start @ second.
I think if the Yankees get Soto it’s gonna come with Deferrals
Possible close to 700 HR’s
He also said he wants Soto
The only place where he will have history is Yankee Stadium
Holmes is another guy can 85 innings as starter
Its not ballpark that helps Soto not Yankees Stadium where had best season ever
Dan O’ Dowd has always hated on the Yankees.
Damn if you do, damn if you dont.
all 4 of these teams are foolish. You know the kind of team u could field instead of getting Soto? lol. Go get Walker, Burnes, Profar, trade for LuBob and Arenado. it's a no brainer to me.
None of those hitters combined make up for losing soto
Boston has Devers, the guy is prefect protection for Soto. Not sure what this guy is taking about?
I was thinking the same thing.
Devers?? 😅
Soto became overrated during the sweepstakes lol
They might 60 innings out of Frankie
Mets are getting Soto
Why, because you said so?? Lol
@@LoSoNBanks22 I hope they do. Mets will be getting a one dimensional player who is a subpar outfielder and baserunner. Good luck with the ticket prices.
There bullpen was terrible last year
O"Dowd is hilarious. He needs to switch jobs.
Curt Schilling got canceled.... it's a shame MLB went there.
No wonder why Dan never won by the way you will see either way the Yankees use there Young players this year I wouldn’t do anything he just said
Let Soto walk out the door. Yankees would be insane to spend all this money on a one dimensional player.
Without that one dimensional player they miss the playoffs this past season
@@fernandoposada5440 wrong, Yankees have way too many holes to fill and to spend all this money on one player is not a smart thing to do. Yanks need a 1st baseman, a third baseman, a leftfielder, a backup catcher, at minimum another starter, a closer etc.
Wrong? They won only 94 games with soto . Barely 3 games ahead of baltimore , and 8 ahead of kc for the final wc spot. And that was with soto . 2023 they didnt have soto and missed the playoffs . And the only one of note that they added was soto . You do the math
@@fernandoposada5440 Judge was out of the lineup for half the 2023 season which sunk the season. Then Rizzo got hurt and missed 50 games.
Soto is a very good offensive player but that's not worth $600M over how many years. With the $600M you can fill numerous holes on the Yankees roster. I am surprised at your lack of understanding on this. Haven't you seen all the bad long-term contracts that became albatrosses?
And judge didnt show up until almost the second half of the season. But who carried the yankees offense while judge hut terribly? Soto . Who carried the offense in the second half with judge when volpe and verfujo sucked and stanton got hurt? Soto
Die hard Yankees fan no I don't want Soto until Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens get into the Hall of Fame I don't care 😡😡😡😡
Soto is going to Philly; these other teams need to start on plan B stat