the derivative is a LIE

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  • @SuperDreamliner787
    @SuperDreamliner787 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This reminds me of my quantum mechanics classes a couple of years ago. Now I am teaching how to add fractions. 😂

    • @MH-sf6jz
      @MH-sf6jz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Abstract algebra is a tough course to teach

  • @ddognine
    @ddognine ปีที่แล้ว +26

    21:10 Minor correction: should be partial wrt y, not x, which allows it to double up as 2e.

  • @theartisticactuary
    @theartisticactuary ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Never has the line separating pure maths from quantum mechanics looked thinner.

  • @chester_m
    @chester_m ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Michael I extended the playlists on my channel of videos on your channel a bit. In particular there is a playlist with over 90 of your videos that are mentioned in the OEIS. If you like they can be on your channel. I can also send you the list I use to make the playlists. Free of charge, just as a thank you for your work.

  • @martin13423
    @martin13423 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really enjoy these more exploratory and higher level videos, they're really interesting !

  • @jordanraddick505
    @jordanraddick505 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Damn you, Penn, your clickbait worked on me! *shakes fist*
    Edit: Damn you, Stephanie!

    • @MichaelPennMath
      @MichaelPennMath  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Under no circumstances am I missing this opportunity.
      -Stephanie
      MP Editor

  • @sinecurve9999
    @sinecurve9999 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Top tier mathematical themed dad joke.

    • @enisten
      @enisten ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Click-bait in disguise of a pun (though, I stayed because of the content)

  • @giannisniper96
    @giannisniper96 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    super excited about a video on the representations of sl_2(C) 😄

    • @benjiusofficial
      @benjiusofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adding another voice to the choir

  • @schweinmachtbree1013
    @schweinmachtbree1013 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the Penn fact at 7:00 could have done with a comma - it might be confused as "componentwise [addition and multiplication] ..." but what is meant is "[componentwise addition], and multiplication ...". (also it uses an epsilon ε instead of a membership symbol ϵ)

    • @MikeGranby
      @MikeGranby ปีที่แล้ว

      It could also have some with a graphic that looked vaguely like Penn..

  • @paulkohl9267
    @paulkohl9267 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey MP, loving the video editing improvements. Excellent. 🙂

  • @dodgsonlluis
    @dodgsonlluis ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got stuck when the calculation leads to z^(m+n-3) and not z^(m+n-1) as needed for L(m+n). If we set in the definition of L(n) z^(n+1) instead of z^(n-1) then works fine.

    • @krisbrandenberger544
      @krisbrandenberger544 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, shouldn't the commutator of L(m) with L(n) be equal to (m-n)*L(m+n-2)?

    • @dodgsonlluis
      @dodgsonlluis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@krisbrandenberger544 Sorry, the definition corrected leads to z^(m+n+1), as needed for L(m+n).

    • @dodgsonlluis
      @dodgsonlluis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krisbrandenberger544 Check his video on the topic. th-cam.com/video/1MKTsHFE9aA/w-d-xo.html

    • @krisbrandenberger544
      @krisbrandenberger544 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dodgsonlluis Perfect! Thanks!

  • @00-102
    @00-102 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the example 2,why there is an alpha(0), it's in span{}; and how can we get m in apan{}?

  • @georrgy
    @georrgy หลายเดือนก่อน

    These series are perfect! You are the first who gave me some naive idea what Lie algebras are, so now I am mentally ready for the appropriate course. Thank You very much 👍

  • @dmytrolevin738
    @dmytrolevin738 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:40 But if [y, z] = yz, then D(y) = [x, y] = xy, and D([y, x]) = D(y)z + yD(z) = xyz + yxz = 2xyz (if the "multiplication" is a usual multiplication, commutative and associative). What is meant exactly by D and that "multiplication" here?

  • @VOLKOV9
    @VOLKOV9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    came here to applaud your change away from the clickbait title. a lot fo math/science youtuber are heading the other way. I get why they do that, but I want to celebrate you going this way.

  • @Wielorybkek
    @Wielorybkek ปีที่แล้ว +4

    video about representations of sl2 or we riot

  • @JohannPetrak
    @JohannPetrak ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best clickbaity title in the history of TH-cam.

  • @reinerwilhelms-tricarico344
    @reinerwilhelms-tricarico344 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In your Heisenberg Lie algebra starting at 11:05 I can't see how this jives with the more commonly known Heisenberg-algebra or group. I don't recognize any of it.

  • @pizzamidhead2183
    @pizzamidhead2183 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    22:12 good place to stop

  • @tubepkn
    @tubepkn ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like how he spells Leibnitz's name: LIEbnitz

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Actually, the _real_ spelling is Leibniz. He even made _two_ typos. :/

  • @MrFtriana
    @MrFtriana ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ah yes, conmutators and derivatives, one topic frequently found in physics in quantum mechanics. It's a awesome topic that mix algebra and calculus.

  • @tomholroyd7519
    @tomholroyd7519 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    LOL yeah it's Leibniz. In German, when you have "ie" or "ei", it's pronounced like the second letter. "Lei" is "lye". "Lie" is "Lee"

    • @Toranx
      @Toranx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually it's "Leibnitz".

  • @ultrametric9317
    @ultrametric9317 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I will go through your entire course - do you get to the part where translation groups come in? I never had a course in Lie theory and my memory is foggy.

  • @Etothe2iPi
    @Etothe2iPi ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Liebnitz instead of Leibniz, ROTFLMAO. At least, there's no magic in this video, when something miraculously changes on the blackboard.

    • @MichaelPennMath
      @MichaelPennMath  ปีที่แล้ว

      There's magic in every video. Math is magical. :)
      -Stephanie
      MP Editor

  • @davidgo3759
    @davidgo3759 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Michael. I really love all your videos. In this one there is something that I don’t get. Is D: J->J / D(v)=[x,v], for any alternating bilinear map [ , ] satisfying the Jacobi identity, a well defined map? What is up with the other vector ‘x’? Besides, I think you cannot go beyond the expression D([y,z])=[D(y),z]+[y,D(z)] since when you take later [a,b]=a·b, firstly [ , ] is not anticommutative, so [ , ] is no longer alternating, and secondly, by the previous definition of D, now becomes D(y)=x·y(x) automatically (we have to assume at that point that J is the vector space of real functions and ‘y’ is a function of the real variable ‘x’) and there is not a derivative operator anywhere that allows you to get to the expresion D(y·z)=D(y)·z+y·D(z).... can you explain me where I’m wrong? Thank you.

  • @APaleDot
    @APaleDot ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always wondered why the cross product reminded me so much of the product rule. It all comes back to that damned Jacobi Identity!
    I would love a video on some sort of intuition about the Jacobi Identity. It seems to show up a lot when discussing rotations, but what the hell does it have to do with rotations? And what the hell do rotations have to do with the product rule?

    • @MrFtriana
      @MrFtriana ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe it is because if you work with finite rotations you don't get the same result when you change the order of the rotations. At least i think that this is a plausible explanation.

    • @APaleDot
      @APaleDot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrFtriana
      Not sure what you mean by this.

    • @joshuagrumski7459
      @joshuagrumski7459 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I don’t know toooooo much, but Lie Groups are groups that are manifolds as well, and Lie Algebras, from what I know, are the tangent spaces of the Lie groups. SO3, the group of rotations, has a corresponding Lie algebra, so3 (lowercase), and so3’s standard basis vectors obeys a Lie bracket relation using the standard commutator. So, from my understanding, the reason why there is such a big connection is because Lie algebras tend to be tangent spaces to a Lie group, which means that the algebras tend to be highly related to derivatives in some sense. As for cross products, I believe that (R3,x) is isomorphic to so3, and so the two are highly related in that sense? But idk for sure, others may add/correct me

  • @lexinwonderland5741
    @lexinwonderland5741 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is always my favorite video content! Thanks, professor! Can't wait for more about Lie algebras and VOAs -- i'm always thrilled to hear about your research, but even educational videos about things like representation theory make my entire day!!

  • @tw5718
    @tw5718 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just to clarify, is this the video formerly known as Derivatives vs Lie groups, 2 sides of the same thing? Added this to watch later, and now its different, I think.

    • @tw5718
      @tw5718 ปีที่แล้ว

      After watching it is. First off, interesting video. I would like to provude my 2 cents about the name change.
      I think this title might be better for getting clicks in general. However, I'm not sure that many of those extra clicks will necessarily be your target audience. If I was a calc 1 student I would click instantly, but not really follow any of this video.
      I am currently trying to work through QFT and as such Lie groups are of very high importance to me, particularly ones that offer intuition, as opposed to definitions and calculations.
      The old title promised insight and intuition, which is why I saved it, and the video delivered. However, had I not seen the old title and known the content of the video, it's quite likely that the pun would have gone over my head, causing me to just write it off as a click baity video, and not watch it.
      All said and done, I'm really glad I watched it, and maybe the pun would have occured to me, but sometimes I'm slow on those things.
      Take that for what it's worth, just keep giving more Lie videos (and other high quality educational content). But more Lie videos.

    • @MichaelPennMath
      @MichaelPennMath  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      welcome to the wonderful world of A/B testing.
      -Stephanie
      MP Editor

    • @tw5718
      @tw5718 ปีที่แล้ว

      I most definitely understand it. I simply wanted to offer my take on this particular title selection. I could very well be the minority.
      I'm not sure what it looks like on your end, but I saved the video when it was the OG title, but didn't watch it until it had changed. Not sure if you get that statistic or not.

  • @nathansmith2168
    @nathansmith2168 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait but with the example of the derivative operator and [a,b]=ab, this bilinear map isn't alternating, right? So it isn't really a lie algebra

  • @mtaur4113
    @mtaur4113 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Title is straight out of the 19th century math flame wars.

  • @cmilkau
    @cmilkau ปีที่แล้ว

    When I first learned about the derivative, I always felt unhappy about it. I wanted something that I would now call tangential space (on the graph of a function). I guess it made sense at the time of Newton and Leibniz, but with the advent of special relativity, I again get the feeling a tangential space is the better abstraction.

  • @mokouf3
    @mokouf3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you see "lie" in mathematics...

  • @AnCoSt1
    @AnCoSt1 ปีที่แล้ว

    the way you misspelled "liebnitz" could be construed as a clever pun... 6:10

  • @kilianklaiber6367
    @kilianklaiber6367 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just one question for the examples. Do these differential operators form a vector space?

  • @AJ-et3vf
    @AJ-et3vf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video. Thank you

  • @JCCyC
    @JCCyC ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Shamelessly clickbaity title but I just can't get mad about it. 🤣

  • @CamEron-nj5qy
    @CamEron-nj5qy ปีที่แล้ว

    That is one strange way to write "g"

  • @jossarian
    @jossarian ปีที่แล้ว

    A general Lie Algebra may be represented(!) by the set of nxn matrices over a field, here gl(n).
    Further, certain restrictions like trace zero, upper triangel, skew symmetric and many more .... , these subclasses of nxn matrices represent also Lie Algebras.
    Next, these Lie-Algebras may act as endomorphisms of some n-tuple vectorspaces.

  • @jamesfortune243
    @jamesfortune243 ปีที่แล้ว

    BTW, the math symbology of TeX/LaTeX is the official representation of mathematical equations and formulae by the American Mathematical Society.

  • @edwardlulofs444
    @edwardlulofs444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good one, thanks.

  • @giorgiobarchiesi5003
    @giorgiobarchiesi5003 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Liebnitz? Was this typo made on purpose?

    • @MichaelPennMath
      @MichaelPennMath  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
      -Stephanie
      MP Editor

  • @catbertsis
    @catbertsis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10/10 clickbait, love it

  • @NewtonMD
    @NewtonMD ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The title 💀

  • @paulkohl9267
    @paulkohl9267 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you get to q-deformable Lie algebra's one day. Did an undergrad math paper on the topic. I would really like to grock the topic better. Then one day Homotopy Type Theory (HOTT) too!

  • @jafetriosduran
    @jafetriosduran ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful in control theory

  • @izzettechpriest255
    @izzettechpriest255 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liebnitz rule? seems like Lie + Leibnitz, nice mix.

  • @ax_tube
    @ax_tube ปีที่แล้ว

    Leibnitz rule

  • @NarutoSSj6
    @NarutoSSj6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Science is a lie. Sometimes.

  • @theelk801
    @theelk801 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    commenting to say I want that representation video, also commenting to ask for more differential forms videos

  • @williamrhys5015
    @williamrhys5015 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    William Rhys likes fire truck

  • @aron8999
    @aron8999 ปีที่แล้ว

    that is not how you draw a g bro

  • @shafin3365
    @shafin3365 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi

  • @sunritpal1037
    @sunritpal1037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The name of the guy teaching is Michael Penn.

  • @Andbovi
    @Andbovi ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The solution of the golden sequence video is wrong! Read the comments!