IN MP3 max payne is old, drunk, not in his prime and dealing with a substance abuse. It kinda makes sense that he can't move as fast, is worse at diving, takes more damage and that the retelling is somewhat off since he can't remember exactly right.
Sam Lake's excellent writing is shown in the fact that he was able to make me feel more for Alex who's seen for three stills before he dies in the first act than Fabiana who dies 4.5 hours into the game
I actually believe Max Payne 3 is the best out of the trilogy. I played 1 and 2 and enjoyed them well but 3 really hit something for me. It was the fact that Max was at his lowest here and they made Max a fish out of water giving it a shall I say a feeling of being alone. Literally the only actual other English speaking people in the game (besides the New Jersey segments) are shady as hell. Making it hard you to even consider trusting the only people max knew.
ehhh, i definitely understand the criticism of mp3 being "too linear" but going back and playing MP1 and MP2, those games arent as open ended as people seem to think. you can backtrack and sometimes go into a room that isnt required, you can look through cupboards and drawers. for some, this may be seen as immersive and realistic. for others, its tedious and annoying. i think MP3 tried to streamline the game even more, sometimes to a disadvantage but other times in its favor, i.e locking doors behind you after a checkpoint, having ammo and painkillers in plain view instead of in cupboards. i personally appreciate it's linearity, sometimes you don't want a game where you need to explore every nook and cranny. sometimes its nice to just breeze through levels feeling like an action movie hero. max does feel more weighty in 3, but i don't mind it honestly. gives more impact to everything that happens. when you finish a shootdodge, he really slams into that ground. he looks like he weighs more here than in the other games as well, not saying that is why they designed him this way but it helps it's case. also, in the case of "you need to land headshots" i think it gives the game a bit more depth. instead of mindlessly shooting everything that moves, you purposely try to get headshots and get rid of the threat quicker. and besides, they definitely still get injured when you shoot them anywhere else. playing MP3 made me better at headshots in other games LOL and you dont really ever NEED to use the cover system during combat besides that one fixed scene. its really only used to build up bullet-time meter, and maybe land a cheeky kill here or there. i barely found myself actually using the cover system much, and when i did i found that i enjoyed the change of being able to just take a break for a second. it's certainly a different take on max payne, and that's definitely what the developers had in mind, given the change in tone, gameplay, even max acts a bit different. sure its a "sequel" but i've always seen it as a soft reboot, and i think rockstar almost treated it as such. it "wraps up max's story" but not much of his story carried over from the other games, and it can be played without any other context for the most part. some flaws, but i enjoyed max payne 3 as a big big fan my personal ranking is 2>3>1. but honestly none of them are BAD.
MP 1 and 2 allowed you to backtrack, it didn't force you. Same with looking through drawers, it was extra bonus stuff, not a requirement. It couldn't be construed as tedious because you could just not do that. Going for headshots isn't added depth, that's every basic shooter strategy, except MP3 also has slow mo so every time enemies appear in a cutscene you just activate it and shoot them all in the head. It works 100% of the time and if anything makes you engage even less with the game since firefights are over so quickly. Everyone also talks about how you don't NEED to take cover, but that's bullshit and like saying you don't NEED a prostate exam. Maybe if the aiming wasn't so shitty that might be valid, or if the environments weren't so cluttered.
@@JZStudiosonline You don't need to take cover, skill issue. If you don't want to use the slow mo and cheese headshots then simply don't do it. You're complaining about the game while willingly using cheese tactics. Try actually playing the game. You do realize slowmo and bullet time runs out, right? You cant just endlessly use it to cheese everything especially on a higher difficulty.
He does make good points here and there but alot of his other criticisms seem more like nitpicks than anything. Even if it has flaws it's still a great game tbh
38:18 did u forget that he was threatning them with a gun and muscle and was probably going to take to the back ally for god knows what he was planning (hence why they were waiting there)
Speaking of the story you mentioned that one of the flaws was they had "taken him too seriously" erm... max payne 3 is less serious than max payne 2, simply because it's so over-the-top in it's portrayal of depression that it's almost an insult to those actually afflicted by it. Not to mention that the only reason it's set in Brazil is the devs watched Elite Squad and got the completely wrong idea from it.
snowflake got insulted by a video game's depiction of depression, keep being offended on the behalf of others, I'm sure it'll score you tons of brownie points with them
Coming back to this video after replaying Max Payne 3, I still have to disagree with you about this game being "bad". Granted I still agree with certain points you made like the unskippable cutscenes and lack of manual saving etc. but a lot of the other points you made seem to be more nitpicks than anything else like the gameplay not being strategic or having "shit controls" or even the fact it was set in Brazil instead of New York. Rockstar clearly didn't want to just make a carbon copy sequel of the previous games and wanted to do something fresh and unique while still trying to stay true to Max Payne (for the most part) which I honestly appreciated considering certain series unfortunately have the problem of them all starting to become too formulaic and samey in later titles like Far Cry or Silent Hill. All three games (while not perfect) are great, and I'd even go as far to say this is the best video game trilogy to exist.
@@i_love_musique333 Yeah, that was another thing, it's super generic. The only thing it has going for it is slow-mo ragdolls which aren't that impressive and is bested by Sniper Elite V2.
@_musique333 Bro this couldn't be further from the truth. Hell, it literally has a multiplayer that manages to implement Max Payne's iconic bullet time mechanic almost perfectly creating an incredible multiplayer experience or you just gonna deny that too?
@@sonny661yt8 In terms of the setting, it's a reasonable criticism since on the surface it seems out of place or unnatural for the third game to be set in Brazil but after hearing what Remedy originally had in mind for their version of Max Payne 3 and 4 makes Rockstar's decision to set the game in Brazil make sense. Remedy stated that with their sequels they wanted the weather to change in each game to reflect Max's emotional state with Max Payne 1 being the worst (in the snowy blizzard night) to Max Payne 4 (in the bright sunny day), so Rockstar took that idea quite literally by just taking Max to Brazil. While it’s still a valid criticism it still feels like he’s nitpicking just because it isn’t identical to the previous two games without even trying to understand why they made the decisions in the first place.
I loved this game but I can understand why some people wouldn't like it, so whatever. About 12 minutes into this video I just gave up because you're upset the game didn't do what you wanted it to do, not so much that it really did anything "bad" Then you complained that Max stays prone too long after a shootdodge "plus the animation of Max getting up takes forever..." _then 30 seconds later you show Max shootdodging then getting up in about 1 second_ (@ 10:55) Maybe you had better points further along in the video but for a video clocking almost 73 minutes long I think I'll pass.
That's basically video game criticism in 2024. It's NOT WHAT I WANTED so it's shit. Video game discourse has never been dumber, more susceptible to fake hype/outrage due to $$$, etc.
So I watched this whole video and I actually don't get what's with all the dislikes. You made a few very valid points. I think, as a diehard Max Payne fan (as I am, personally), you just feel the utter lack of disconnect with Max Payne as a character in the third installment. He just doesn't feel like himself, the storytelling is lackluster and the setting couldn't have been a worse choice. They could have worked with the alcoholism and painkiller addiction storyline SO WELL, actually, but only if they actually kept what made Max Max...and that is the brooding underdog with a poetic streak who is up against the world but doesn't want to be, who doesn't ask for revenge or trouble, but it all seems to come to him regardless. Even if Max lost himself at the bottom of a bottle which is very realistic, he wouldn't, in a million years, have that kind of a speech at the grave after the events of MP2. Mona WAS grief, but she still meant something to him, not just "an unfinished business." She helped him find CLOSURE. And a Max who got closure wouldn't still say the things he did, just like you pointed out. Yes, he could still suffer, but not seem like he stood at a standstill for 9 years. Come the fuck on...is Rockstar gonna pretend that's all he did for a decade? Feel sorry for himself? And the disconnect with the original character doesn't stop there. In Max Payne 3, he comes across as edgy for the sake of being edgy, there's no thought provoking anything about his speech, nothing memorable, just layers of self-pitty and downright laughable language snippets, such as the whole "I wouldn't know right from wrong if one was helping the poor and the other was banging my sister." Yikes. Cringe as hell. That sounded like something Tommy Vercetti would say, or any Rockstar protagonist, but not Max. This goes to show that a bigger buget doesn't essentially translate into a better game. Max Payne has ALWAYS been led by character and storyline, the outside world came second. The third installment got it backwards by assuming that us, as a fandom, only wanted flashy mechanics and layers of mob and twisted storylines for the sake of "oh, I surprised you there." (even if you could literally call the plot from the get-go, it was so obvious). No, what everyone wanted was what made Max Payne unique in the first place - the incredible speech, the feeling of justifiable revenge, fate, evolution, anti-hero, the Noir setting, comic-style storytelling etc.
Yeah you're right i disagree in a Few points, but you're right, The hard truth is Max payne 3 needed sam lake special writing, dan houser and the other Screenwriter's didn't get the whole point of max payne as a character i mean lets pick up Die hard movies for example im Not saying that MP3 IS BAD far from it but i doesn't look líke a True max payne experience, lets go back to the Die hard movie, Die hard 1 and Die hard 2 is good Very good, but the last movie was so strange and out of place and filled with no purpose action that the story at one point didn't make any sense and character development was unexistent and the same thing was applied in MP3 the character doesn't go forward, im a writer and i know what im talking about, there is plenty of character structure to use, but the one that they used here is out of place doesn't fit max i mean for the whole game he doesn't changed a bit he stills at the end the same in the begining a self pity miserable bastard that probably two days after the end of the game would be Drunk and half dead in some degenerate bar in the suburbs of Bahia. The main thing that i want to say is the character for the whole game he didn't changed and this is a problem. in the two other games max changed somehow ,he had a solid character arc, but dan houser and his writing crew main mistake in the writing was to left only some 2 to 3 minutes at the Very end of the game just to show that ""probably""" max changed when they should show and not tell some apperent change in max conduct right in the middle of the game or in the clímax of the plot, not Three minutes to show that he "changed". The game isn't bad is good Very fucking good but the story missed and a lot sam Lake special noir writing style, and dan houser was so in the need to do something different that this transition of mood setting style, feels strange and out of place this is a good game a good action game, But not a good max payne game.
@@tmgranato I think the game is far easier to enjoy if you pretend it's not Max Payne 3, just a standard Rockstar creation. If you look at it like that, it's not a bad game at all. Same as Postal III fans who don't acknowledge that game at all LOL.
I thought the game was a total failure compared to Max Payne 1-2. Max Payne 3 is almost like a parody of Payne 1-2. The shooting is fun, but that's all. 1-2 were works of art, 3 was a cash grab.
the maps were very good in terms of detail and concept espcially the favela: it was very interactive(u had enemies poping windows,roofs,houses and the choatic building lets you fin a cover in less then 3 seconds ) and there was nothing wrong with the npcs (when u fire they take cover,if u'r not doing anything they will push and they communicate with each other or cursing at you) just like any other AAA game and i do agree that there few problems in the story but their are no problem with the mechanics except maybe in the last man standing when u run out of ammo or the gun just aime somwhere else an u can't shoot ur target
I couldn’t agree more, it’s generic as fuck. Max Payne isn’t supposed to be a generic, badly written, badly paced, boring, unfair, linear cover based shooter. The dialogue is just plain lazy garbage. It couldn’t lace the first two’s boots.
Max Payne 3 on PC is the best 3rd person shooter of all time imo. The cover system is good in this game and makes the gameplay much better than the first two parts when you don't overuse it. You don't have to rely on taking covers to enjoy the game. My advice is to play this game on normal or easy mode.
You are delusional or biased if you say Max Payne 3 was garbage. is it different than the previous games? Yes, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game by any means.
The linearity is what killed it for me: I don't like when a game doesn't let you explore an area at all and just wants you to walk through a pre-determined corridor to trigger the next cutscene that will lead you to the next corridor. What's buffling is that the setting would have been perfect to implement multichoice paths and even stealth, especially in the first section when Max has to retrieve the hostages. I understand why the developers abandoned the idea of carrying the entire arsenal of the game at any time, but they rarely give the players enough opportunity to wield something that isn't the common pistol/uzi + shotgun/assault rifle combo and most are relegated to on rail shooting sections.
@@phsychomancer1084 Yeah, not sure what he was talking about. Max Payne 1 at least was entirely linear and it had a few nonsensical puzzles where you had to do something unorthodox without any hints that it was the only way forward. "Perfectly paced and a lot of freedom" might describe MP2 but definitely not the first game which has not aged well at all.
They could of called it something else. It didnt have to be max Payne. They wanted cash out on the name. I'm not here to say it's good or bad. What I am saying weather you liked 3 or didnt like it the game is not really a max payne game other then the bullet time. They could of called it something else and made a different game.
@@neattricks7678 they are all kinda linear. You might have to look around a little but the places are so small theres really 1 way to go and doesnt take long to figure out where to go.
Yeah, overall linear but after having found the secrets in 1 and 2? You actually have to pause moving forward and destroy a wall or window to find the secrets and get hidden ammo or Easter eggs.
I played all 3 Max Payne games back to back to back, and 3 was the one I had the hardest time getting all the way through, because I would just end up getting kind of frustrated with it. Max Payne 1 and 2 had such a fun gameplay loop and 3 kinda just feels like it wanted to be Rockstar's answer to Uncharted. The best parts of 3 is when they let you play it like a Max Payne game. I'd be lying if I said I hated the game, it's a lot better than most games out there, but I definitely can't say I loved it as much as the first two.
@@randomman6351 As a counterbalance, I do enjoy the increased level of gore (gunshots in particular are strong, impactful and quite literally the best out of the MP series to date) and sordidness feel gives it a unique feel of atmosphere and some characters such as Pásos are fun and engaging but in terms of everything else - to cut this shorter than a paragraph: It's Max Payne's journey and words which hold no real emotional weight, it feels too...empty and much, much less the full pain of a man who lost everything dear to him. Even in 2, he waxed his depression a bit too much for my liking. The series is always has been a bit of an awkward duckling but it's emotional factor was always it's strong point, I fear MP3 fails in this regard to deliver me characters I truly hate, love or insipidly admire. Rockstar likes dirty, down-to-earth characters with satire but they really didn't hit strong with Payne in particular.
Honestly, with maturity, max payne 3 gets so much better. I vehemently disagree with this video. It also holds up graphically. Not even joking, max payne 3 max graphics, high refresh monitor and more is still beautiful.
50:52 Max had no idea about Winterson's conflicting loyalties at that point in time. It was purely impulse, and that is why he is so shocked when it happens, and it was purely love. But the part you're right about is that what he said in Max Payne 3 made no sense. It would make sense, however, if they mentioned a good reason for his guilt. By killing both Vlad and Winterson, he killed not only mirrors of himself ("brothers on opposite sides of a civil war" ring a bell?), but also left her pre-pubescent blind son an orphan.
@@sonny661yt8 I find the criticism about it being very heavy on cover mechanics completely absurd considering you can still very well play the game as a regular Max Payne game the only time it really forces you too actively use the cover mechanic whether you like it or not is in at the end of Chapter 10 where Max is on the bus causing a distraction while Giovanna goes to Passo other than that Rockstar tried not to make it the main focus of the gameplay. Rockstar explained in gameplay trailers that the cover mechanics served more as a rest break from the action to help you get time to heal and plan your next strategy which it's pretty clear considering it's not very polished compared to the rest of the gunplay mechanics not to mention they actually discourage you from staying in cover with enemies that try to flush you out with grenades, charging tactics and even certain cases being able to shoot through cover but not all the cover is destructible unfortunately. The game also rewards the player with more bullet time the more they take risks in combat, so I always ended up playing it like a normal Max Payne game anyway.
@@SlurpyPie I don't know how you can claim that you could play it as the same as the other Max Payne games. Other Max Payne games had you exploring a location and progressing through it naturally, even finding alternate paths sometimes. In 90% of MP3 gunfights you are placed in a specific point after a cutscene plays out. You get a set of enemies to kill, then some more will enter into this scripted arena for you to headshot, and then you make a few steps into another room for a cutscene to play out, rinse and repeat.
@@sonny661yt8 As much as I love MP1 and MP2 they aren’t as open ended as y’all make them out to be, sure you can explore a location more freely and whatnot but they’re still pretty linear in nature with the only difference between those games and MP3 being that you don’t get interrupted by a cutscene leaving the player with those quiet moments in between each gunfight but that’s it really. I’m certain Rockstar just wanted to streamline it even more, sometimes to a disadvantage but also sometimes to its favour so even tho I have my problems with the game’s presentation (like with the inability to skip a decent amount of cutscenes or a lack of manual saving) I still appreciate it’s linearity as I was just able to breeze through the game enjoying the game’s combat and story (despite the story’s glaring flaws). As for the combat itself there’s more to it than what you think, the enemies can't all die in one shot unless it's a headshot (obviously) basically forcing you to get better at aim so that’s when the enemies start wearing helmets nearing the end of the game, not to mention have body armour which means you're then forced to land two headshots instead of one basically putting your skills to the test which I really liked and added a lot to the gameplay but since they implemented Euphoria physics it also encouraged me to experiment on the enemies like with me shooting them in the legs or if they were wearing body armour then I’d shoot their body armour to throw them off their balance or even diving into them to get them to fall over onto the ground so that I could do a melee kill or kill other enemies nearby before moving back on to said enemy instead of just only landing headshots on all the enemies even if the headshots in this game are satisfying af. Also I find it funny how you immediately deflected my point by talking about a completely different point that had nothing to do with my original comment XD
@@SlurpyPie Complete and utter misrepresentation of my point, nice strawman tactic. Max Payne 1 and 2 aren’t open world by any means, but they didn’t have you constantly in a specific point after a cutscene you can’t skip and then forcing you to headshot these set of scripted specific enemies, like I said, I had you exploring the environment naturally without constantly being interrupted by boring long cutscene that you can’t skip. And I didn’t deflect anything. Your comment said that MP3 can be played like the previous games and that’s factually wrong. Previous Max Payne games emphasized that you don't need to land headshots to be effective. Headshots still did lethal damage, but the damage you receive and deal to enemies made it completely okay to enjoy a gunfight spectacle that comes from run-and-gun gameplay. MP3 has literal slow-mo sections where you have to land headshots in quick succession while airborne after a cutscene. The rest of the gameplay doesn't differ much from that because every facet of MP3 pushes you towards avoiding body shots. I wouldn’t recommend anyone to play the game above normal cause it just becomes a headshot simulator. But the railway part doesn't go away because your control is constantly being taken away from you to put you through another cutscene. Open door - cutscene. Press a button - cutscene. This is very like Rockstar, stripping away as much control from you as they can.
Spot on about everything. Even tho I'm one of the people who say the gameplay is good or even great at times even if the story sucks. Bought MP3 again after all the years and I gotta say I didn't feel like beating it more than once.
@@user-xf5ej5od8f I heard the first thing people did on PC was a mod to skip the cutscenes and those cutscenes are one of the things which keep me from playing this game more often than once a year or two. Also the pinpoint headshotting is probably easier with mouse than analog sticks but I didn't personally feel that was a problem.
I agree much didn't change with Max shaving his head. He still couldn't save Fabiana. 44:35 I totally get your point, but I could see Max still willing to rescue someone in danger, money or no money. I wish there would've been more to Fabiana's character, but I was still sad to see her go.
dude you cant just expect the game to be the exact same as the last ones when you knew it was being developed and written by a completely different team of developers all your criticism comes from the fact it not just like MP2 in terms of gameplay and story. if you actually listened to R* before the game came out you would know exactly what you were buying and how it was gonna be different than the first 2
Yeah, GTA6 is actually going to be first person only and all you do is wrestle gators as a cop. Because you don't need to stick with brand or franchise identity.
I agree with most of your opinions however, I still enjoyed playing this game. The cutscenes can be skipped with mods with only a few being game breaking.
20:30 It’s a shame you never brought up Vanquish, it’s a game that has a bullet-time mechanic and does it so well that it might be one of, if not the actual best third person shooter of all time.
Max payne 2 was one of my favourite childhood games, so after I finally bought a pc good enough and tried this, after the first level I knew this was not going to be good and i gave up at the boat section of the game. Thank you, you nailed every problem I had with the game.
Most of his takes aren't really problems in the game, he is just nitpicking the hell out of the game and complaining about how it's different than the previous ones.
@@user-sc9ux9kl2b I will say he does make a few good points that I agree with, but he also makes criticisms that seem more like nitpicks for the game being different from the sequels especially considering its set in Brazil.
Man honestly this is one of my favorite games of all time but after going back and playing the whole series I completely understand the criticism it is so frustrating when you’re trying to play the game and just zone out and have fun and shoot some bad guys and you get interrupted by an eight minute on skippable cut scene every five minutes other than that it’s one of the best games of all time in my opinion but compared to the action of the first two games I get why people complain it’s a very valid critique
I think that Max Payne 3 is the best 3rd person shooter of all time, but I agree with you about the unskippable cutscenes. They should remaster the game only to fix this problem.
This is a really good video! I played through the series sequentially with my parents watching, so I had no love for the character prior to finishing MP2. After that, though, I became a fan of the series. And while I love Max Payne 3 as a standalone game, and found that the gameplay does get much better with repeat playthroughs (once you know all the painkiller locations, enemy spawns, etc, and are used to the weird balancing changes), I also despise what it did to Max as a character and wished it had stronger protagonists and character introductions for sure. However, being Brazilian myself, I recognise the effort that went into both the soundtrack and the story. A lot of the plot may seem generic or uninteresting to you, but to me and my parents it was like watching our political system's corruption get broken down to its basic components. I think Rockstar's mistake was that they tried so hard to make (and succeeded in making) a realistic portrayal of Brazil, that they forgot to make an accurate portrayal of Max. They focused on the wrong thing, basically. Getting the references to the real world and recognising instruments and beats used in the OST enhances the experience a LOT, though. You're 100% on point, but there -is- more to MP3 than meets the eye.
Also, I think Max Payne 1's difficulty balancing is really bad, even on the easiest difficulty. Even watching your footage - look at the amount of times you die and have to reload a save literally just around the corner. You either savescum or you get frustrated and stop playing. I ended up modding my game to increase the 'autoaim' radius and decrease incoming damage by half. That made the game waay more fun to me and made me truly feel like an action hero. MP2 is absolutely perfect though, both in balancing and in story. An absolute masterpiece and a masterclass in how to make a proper sequel. Unlike the joke that is Half-Life 2.
After reading the comments I think that most people don't know how to properly play this game. Max Payne 3 is a john wick simulator, you don't have to play it on the highest difficulty to enjoy it.
Actually the cover system in Max Payne 3 is perfect. Being vulnerable even when you are taking cover is a actually a good thing not a con, otherwise it would be too easy, not challenging and wouldn't encourage you to move from your cover. They didn't add the jump button because there aren't enough buttons on consoles to add the jump button lol. I don't have any problem with bullet time stopping when you physically interacts with objects, it's actually provided many cool moments in my gameplay.
@@user-xf5ej5od8fLotta people will play the game only once and be like "UGGHHHHHH I KEEP DYING" and never learn how the game play clicks. Ive replayed this game so many times its just so fucking satisfying. Not the games fault. It gives you plenty of health items, at times id find myself hoarding 8 pill containers at a time on hard mode
@@A-oo8mw completely understandable. I like 2 way less then 1 but comparing the atmosphere for me between 2 Nd 3 2 lost the noir york vibe but still had that certain max payne style dark tone which i miss with mp3
The game didn't feel like Max Payne. At all. It feels like a prototype for GTA5. Not to mention the story makes no sense. for example: He killed hundreds of mobsters and goons in the first two games only to run when he's faced with a much less dangerous situation in the 3rd? The guy should be a scary story to these people but nah. That'd make too much sense. Hell even in the second mission in MP2 the guys attacking Vlad confirm this.
You do realise the monsters he killed in the first 2 games are not around anymore right? The mobsters in 3 are a low teir family in Jersery thinking they are big shots It's like you guys never played the 3rd lol
I'm glad someone has the exact same problem with this game, and to add to my opinion it literally feels like you're playing a bullet time GTA, just without the open world, that's what this game feels like it was meant to be and rockstars rage engine does not help this at all, it only worsens it, but I don't want to play gta I want Max Payne I just wish rockstar would just give the max Payne rights back to remedy,
Also give them the IP? Sell it to them? This is a business dumbass they arent just giving properties away. They could sell it to them or let them develope it but its still their IP for now. Companies don't just give their franchises away for free. Dammit nintendo why didnt you give microsoft mario and pikachu 🤣🤣🤣
I honestly dont care if a franchise I like comes back or not. Alot of the time games that come back a decade later they are trash. I'd rather see a new IP be good and let the IP I liked RIP
@@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy I don't know why I'm responding to this but the fact that you have to make fun of someone over the internet and may I add over a 5 month comment really goes to show how lonely you truly are I will not be responding to you anymore because it's not worth my time
-too many cutscenes -cutscenes are too long (the first hour is like for fifths cutscenes) -forced button prompts constantly that pause everything just so you know you can press a button -mostly cutscenes with 3-5 minutes of shooting in between *This is the most boring game I have ever played* I stopped at the stadium level because I just couldn't suffer the rest of the game scrolling through my phone waiting for the gameplay to start and stop a couple minutes later for another 10 minute cutscene. *Absolutely horrendous game.* David Cage makes more interesting games. *The first game was fun though.* I remember shooting rats in that one.
Max Payne 3 disappointed me, and it may just be because I played it very late. But I'm not really mad at it (there's a high chance I would've enjoyed it more at its time, I don't think it aged very well). As a game on its own, it's alright, I did enjoy the gunplay, but I hated the tedious *"shoot shoot, cutscene, shoot shoot, cutscene"* cycle. I just wish the writing helped a little. It is strange, because Houser usually writes really cool missions and backstories, but this one felt thrown together for whatever.
Honestly I still enjoyed this game as much as the previous games but MP3 is when the gunplay in the series peaked (imo) cause it's got a surprising amount of depth and is extremely satisfying but people like Mister No Life probably don't like it cause it's too different from the originals and as a result don't bother trying to learn leading to them to not accurately presenting the game's best qualities and I personally didn't mind the cutscenes but I'd be lying if I said they didn't annoy me from time to time, still have no idea why they thought it was a good idea to make a decent amount of them unskippable smh. Also while I think MP3's narrative is the weakest of the three I still thought it was decent and liked what they tried to do with the story even if they unfortunately didn't fully stick the landing and the dialogue didn't feel like Max Payne esque for like 70 to 80 percent of the game but it was probably due to the troubling development and this is why I'd love if they remake MP3 after the first two games cause there's so much more this game could've been and even tho I still enjoy it thoroughly if they learnt from their mistakes and improved upon the game it would be an easy 10/10 for me but as of right now I'm gonna rate this a 7 or even 8/10 which isn't bad in fact I'd say it's still pretty good for something released in 2012 compared to third person shooters today.
This video describes 40% of my feelings towards Max Payne 3, some of things of the gameplay enfuriate me and the story has nothing to do with Max Payne and it makes no sense of repeating the same thing of Max Payne 2´s ending which was Max forgiving himself and moving on. I just don´t say what i think because i don´t want people to see me as a massive Remedy fanboy, don´t get me wrong, i like MP3 but 1 and 2 are way better than 3.
Uh not really. Even after 2 Max pretty much lost everything and his reaction towards the end was a coping mechanism. I found the ending of 3 to be a much more fulfilling end to his character showing that he's living in the present (not narrating himself) and literally walking off into the sunset at peace. Saying that 3 repeating 1 and 2 is dead wrong on the terms of how 3 handled his character.
@@davecarterNV5 watch the video . you actually well we re coming from, if you actually heard the points .... just gow18 fanboys when ppl talk about some negative aspects of the game
Thank you for this. I know it's really late, but I guess TH-cam's algorithm smiled upon us for once. I was desperate to hear a review that finally understands what a pos this game is. Thanks again. One thing that brought MY blood to a boil was what they did to the story. Not that they ruined it or told a bad one that doesn't make sense... that would be disappointing, not infuriating. No, what's infuriating is actually, for me, the connections it does make to the original. I'll just mention the most egregious point here: What was done to Max's inner monologue was nothing less than an assault. Whether it's the writer's own crooked mirror that shown Max like this, or the writer's own take on our favorite noir game hero, I leave to you to decide. What's important is that the reflective attitude of the subtle, brooding man are here, in a word, disrespected. Not written badly, or differently, but contemptuously. These lines of monologue hate Max Payne to the point of always making him grotesque, while the whole point of the noir hero was his subtlety and coolness (think Bogart). It's not a misunderstanding of the genre it's an assault on the genre. Something in the writer's eye perceives Max's brooding demeanor and constant reflection as traits to ridicule-via-caricature. As if the values, and the person holding them up, had imploded, or died and started rotting from the inside, and what we are proudly presented with here is the result. May Payne 3 upset me not because it deviated from the original, but because it presented us with its literally stinking corpse. Anyway, I know it was a long rant, but hey I listened to all of yours! Hope I didn't strain your patience. S.
I'm ok with Max Payne shaving as a way to take control of his life, that's something that a lot of people do, and even i did at one point, but there's few things that ruin it. First his disgusting beard. When he lost control of his life he let his beard grow, not his hair, so why did he shave his hair and kept the beard? Second, he's adicted to pills and boose, so keeping the pills as the main way of recovering health is counter-intuitive. Third, Max's attitude doesn't change a single bit after he quits the booze, the gameplay doesn't change in anyway, nor is he more competent in any way. So it feels like a farse. They just wanted Kratos Payne. That's all i got.
I genuinely despise Rockstar Games too. Because their studio and their games are walking contradiction's, and filled to the brim with contrivances. For example: In open world games your suppose to have freedom to the fullest extent or a least the illusion of control, but in a mission if you try...even try to have fun at the expense of the game or not do what the developer wants you do, you fail. That's why I like systemic games (i.e. Dishonored, Thief, Deus Ex, Hitman, Prey, Vampire The Masquerade:Bloodlines, and The Shock series except Infinite) and I hate linearity(unless it's a corridor shooter or area shooter like DOOM or Wolfenstein). I like systemic games because they allow the player to do anything within the rules of the game world or within the main objective of said level, but most of them are still linear but you barely notice it...unlike Rockstar Games. In Conclusion: Rockstar Games is a overrated game company and the gameplay of their games are terrible, maybe instead of focusing on modeling horse balls retracting in cold weather they've should've learn how make a game which is fun and has competent shooting mechanics and also quick animations, so you don't feel like your walking on molasses(This rant was pointed specifically to RDR2, but you could find something that also criticizes Max Payne 3).
Ironically GTAV has the problem in its player emergence and agency due to the Mission Failed screen not allowing seamless control back into freemode. This appears to affect Online but to much less signifcant degree. Games are being designed by committee and not so much by individual playtesters with years of game design and analysis. Fuckin' shameful nowadays.
Max Payne was my childhood and one of my favorite games of all time. I loved this in-depth review and it sums up most of my feelings regarding Max Payne. Love your content man!
Wow! Disturbing and disgusting that Max Payne was part of your "childhood." It's not at all a game for children, at all, which leads me to believe that your parents didn't really give a damn about you and just let you do whatever you wanted so you wouldn't bother them. You'll be going through your own "payne" in the years to come thanks to them.
@@jonah1976 in the 90s and early 2000s all kids played all the playstation and Nintendo games good and bad. It was normal actually for kids to play violent and non violent games both.
@jonah1976 and you are ignorant to all hell and you know nothing, it's a parent's job to teach you right from wrong morals at the best they can from their own life's knowledge, and if they decide to let you play a video game that's full of violence then they trust you to do the right thing, and make the right judgment call at the end, I don't know what you're trying to say but you don't know anything and you already judged him as a criminal, before you even got to know him.
According to me Max payne 3 is the perfect sequel ever made . You need a open mind and stop being sticky to the previous games the realism in the game was a fresh change for me in my opinion. Level Design and strict linearity could be a weak point but still i enjoyed every part of it. The grenades being missing and molotovs was a little disappointing though.
I found the shooting mechanics and ragdoll physics really satisfying in 3 but i 100% agree theres way too many unskipable cutscenes, after years of not playing it i tried it on pc, and i hate it now, i was just watching and waiting for the game to let me play again...i had more fun playing max payne 1 on my phone at work.
It's supposed to be an evolution, not a pale imitation of it's predecessors. Max Payne 3 dealts with Max's past trauma, and how Max aged over the years,hence that would explain why he is slow and feels a bit draggy and heavy. While lots of your criticisms are valid, it isn't that bad or awful as you had said. Had it been another Max Payne 1 and 2 in terms of gameplay, game design and other aspects, people would just whine and complain to Rockstar for not making differences, innovations.
The golden guns have some more ammo and deal a bit more damage for if you don't get headshots. Basically, golden guns are better than normal guns for gameplay.
the fact that the game is a bit generic doesn't mean that it has a slow pace its just the way u play the game that makes it slow (and its obvious that u are doing it on purpose in the footage)
Wild, I just finished playing the franchise for the first time and I agree with everything. I don't understand why people say the gunplay is good, the movement sucks and aiming is terrible in a game hyper focused on precision. My first annoyance with the game was the opening when Max immediately started complaining about capitalism in typical R* fashion. I also pretty much called the story from the get go, except I thought it would be the dipshit brother who wanted more money, since he was untouched at both parties. I guess R* forgot about him.
As huge of max Payne I was really disappointed myself the cover based shooting limits everything you can do in a game that is suppose to be run and gun game, but rock-star develop this game to be a prototype for GTA5
If you play this game like a cover shooter then you are dumb@ss, you can play this game like the original games, just don't use the cover system, max is more slow but you still can play it as a run and gun game, there is even a difficulty for players that want that playstyle.
You make some pretty good arguments against the game but It often felt like you could have gone a bit more in-depth, with the cutscenes for example, they are seizure-inducing, highlight the most random words and how half of the dialogues are not understandable, for a big part of players, because they are in a completely different language with no option to change it because of "immersion" but then again 1 hour is already pretty long for the average person to watch and your review already might be one of the most accurate reviews out there for this game.
Hey idk if you still care that much about this comment section, but what are your opinions on Remedy announcing that they're making a Remake for both Max Payne 1& 2? I think they have potential to grow and improve on the formula, but at the same time video game remakes aren't exactly known for being faithful or respectful to their source material.
Ok, I stopped about 15 minutes into this video. I can respect your opinions but your criticisms up until this point are just hating it for trying to be realistic and saying it's too hard (difficulty and controls wise). I've played this game on the hardest difficulty using my ps3. It's supposed to be hard especially with the limited amount of sensitivity a controller gives. You don't think I died many times? I got frustrated at bullshit too but I I understood it was hard. I didn't wine about my controls or it being to hard. I pushed forward knowing it would be a challenge. And the cover mechanic critique was a real nitpick. Yeah there's cover in a max Payne game but like I really used cover much. You can still run around and go guns blazing, hell it was faster or easier to go guns blazing in certain parts. And let's consider this from a point in real life considering the more realistic tone of the game. Would you find it safer to run out in the open with no body armor or stay behind cover and pick of enemies? And what's wrong with some slow time? Constant action would make the actually intense fights seem lame or added on. I agree with the weight however as certain parts seem slow and monotonous but I believe it shows Max's age. A middle age man who's an alcoholic and addicted to pills isn't going to have the stamina of a pro athlete or an athletein general. I get how you can't do crazy things with bullet time anymore, I thought those were pretty fun but you have to admit it's pretty stupid. No matter how many rounds you lay into someone with it's not going to send them flying into the air. You just have to sit down and realize that Max Payne 3 was trying to be something different by adding realism to it. What would be the point of making a third game with something we've already seen before in the 2 before it.
After playing the game in order on my steamdeck, the 2nd game where I enjoyed the most. So for me, the 2nd one is the best among the trilogy. 1st and the 2nd game has the same feeling, and the 3rd one is just completely different feeling when I played the game.
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The game is so unresponsive. Better animations are always nice but not at the expense of less control. Also why does it take so long for Max to get up off the floor? I think it killed me maybe once, so it's not like it makes the game harder or anything, if it only led to my death once. So most of the time it's just clunky and annoying. Also what is with all the stupid cutscenes. Just let me play the game.
If you keep holding down the movement keys when he lands, he'll get up quicker but if you don't and just land normally, he'll get up slower. Also, storywise it's supposed to show that Max has aged quite a bit and isn't in the same condition he was in the first two games plus it wasn't as big of a problem for me considering you're still able to shoot back at enemies while getting up so you wouldn't be too vulnerable while in combat. I will say I do agree with the unresponsiveness that does unfortunately hurt the game at times, but at the end of the day I still have a ton of fun playing the game. Hopefully if Rockstar does ever remake MP3, they take notes and fix certain problems that plague the game both gameplay and storywise then it'd be perfect.
@@SlurpyPie I played it on the X360 and I was pushing the stick in all directions to get Max to move. Maybe it's different on PC. Either way we're talking about a guy who slows down time while shooting through the air, are you really bringing up his age to excuse clunky design.
@@robrick9361 Well I played it on PC and from what I've seen it works all you do is hold the movement keys or in your case the thumbstick in the direction you want after you shootdodge and then he gets up quicker, it's worked every time I've played. Also, if you read my comment, I was never using his age as an excuse for the game design but more commenting on that detail showing his physical state at this point in his life through gameplay that I found interesting that's all if that was the impression you got from my comment then I'm sorry for the confusion. I did agree with you on how unresponsive it is due to the animation system they had which soured my experience as it did get in the way at times, but the gameplay isn't as bad as alot of people make it out to be. It's understandable if y'all don't like the game but despite the problems that unfortunately plague the game there's still tons to like it for from its brutal killcams, amazing sound design and even the gameplay itself *although I wish there was more areas you could fight enemies and less unskippable cutscenes.*
1:06:26 when u are trying to prove a point or express an opinion its really not smart to show people who disagree as mindless tastless people u cro magnon
I hate when realism is used as a positive. I'm playing video games, I don't give a shit about realism. That's great that Max Payne is an alcoholic drug abuser and he's old, but that doesn't mean I wanna play as a shitty old man who can't do anything, because that's not fun
36:02 There's a slight humor in the fact that you say this because there's in fact a scene at the Jersey cemetery where the mob goon captures Pasos, sees you, and says "TH-THAT'S MAX PAYNE... Wait... you're Max Payne? I thought he (Pasos) was Max Payne!"
This was my first experience with a max Payne game, I liked it for what it was and the gun fights felt really cool. It does have problems and compared to the first 2 games I can see why people dont really like it. Love the content no life.
You know, with the exception of those fucking cutscenes.. I actually really enjoyed this, I got about halfway through GTA v and I haven't gotten back but ever since San Andreas that series had been downhill, four was just a series of fucking Nico whining like a little bitch, which okay are you please speaking Max is a whiny little bitch for all three games but in a cool way I'm not sure how that works but it does it matters.. possibly because he's a sympathetic character and nobody in any of the GTA since San Andreas has been?
@@RobertEdwinHouse9 i liked gta 4 but the online and after story completed didnt have nearly as much as gta sa which is why sa is still played a lot more
I don’t agree with the points here but I appreciate and applaud how they were put. But one great thing about 3 sure is that this game have many places to praise or put blame from either side of spectrum. I heard Max Payne 3 might have been made because Dan Houser is just that big of a fan and the IP is owned by R*. Here you say it might have started off as something else (…and my uneducated guess is that whatever it might have been was fit with Max Payne IP). The reason why Max Payne 3 had to be made as R* announced adamantly right after 2 is still never clear. Nevertheless I still enjoyed the video.
21:35 did you just shot the guy on the left and the dude on the right moves 20 meters to the right ... in the slow motion?! the head shot simulation in max poayne 2 was known that it takes less than 2 seconds I guess. So after its over everyone in the room are still in the same positions !!! wtf
i actually really like max payne 3, i think it's a fun shooter that rewards being aggressive with bullet time and diving everywhere like a madman. i thought it was meh when i first played it but on m&kb it plays amazing. i think the story's a mess though lol, it's got a ridiculous amount of plotholes and i didn't personally care about it because it doesn't even feel like the writers did particularly. i found a lot of max's dialogue pretty entertaining, rockstar are always pretty good at making funny dialogue. 'i have a hole in my second favourite drinking arm' was pretty great ive not actually played the first two games either, the first atleast has aged pretty poorly gameplay wise so finding it hard to get into. everyone has the same death sound minus a few exceptions so it feels goofy more than anything. sure they were groundbreaking when they came out but nowadays, meh either way i really enjoyed this video despite having a pretty different opinion, especially in terms of gameplay. i think the game's really fun and incentivizes the dive and bullet time mechanics to their fullest, with taking cover being a nice option for people who are really struggling with it. great video still! hopefully your channel takes off because this was a really good watch
max payne 1 and 2 you were presented a level and go through it at your own pace. its linear but theres some semblance of level design instead of a straight up hallway with enemies charging at you with cut scenes interrupting the gameplay every 2 minutes. hopefully remedy makes max payne 4
No headshots r very effective later on when u face ufe.U can kill them by a few high caliber hits in the legs way easier than by aiming heads often cuz of the helmets.With dual bull it's basicly unimportant where u hit after all.It doesn't need much more than two hits usually.The existence of a cover mechanic doesn't force u to use it allways.Wich getting beaten to death outta nowhere online,teaches pretty quick ;)
I 1000% disagree with you but i respect your opinion. Imo the game is still has one of the best 3rd person shooting mechanics till date, games like GTA 5 and RDR2 clearly were inspired by the game's mechanics.
max payne 3 is a masterpiece! HOW DARE you say anything bad about it!? I mean... Look at all the great things this game has to offer! Like.... uh....... guns..... and....... nvm
I mean it also has really satisfying shooting, smooth animations, a fairly interesting story with pretty damn good writing and a great main character, an amazing soundtrack and graphics that have aged surprisingly well. But whatever, you do you.
@@SF-ow9ym Story was a complete joke and they ruined Paynes character to cash in using their GTA engine. The shooting is fun but that's it. 1-2 the shooting is fun and the story has purpose unlike 3, and even the writing is better. Max Payne's riding in 3 was pure drivel. Never thought I would want the character to shut up after playing 3. Max Payne 3 is trash for that reason, ruining it's own main character.
@@SF-ow9ym 'pretty damn good writing'? The story feels like your run of the mill generic action movie with stupid dialogue. Max Payne doesn't even behave like himself. Most importantly they ruined noir and storytelling aspects.
The good thing about this game is the shooting and kill cams, the bad thing however are way more noticeable as you keep playing. The thing about too many cons, or big enough cons is that they can outweigh or over shine other the good things about this game. It’s not a bad game, but still frustrating. I understand why it’s loved, but I don’t understand anyone who will claim that the game is perfect with no flaws and attack anyone who is criticizing the game.
The narrative of this game is a mess, and i find all the graohical effects during cutscenes to be distracting and overused. They remind of the film Domino.
Great video - it's rare I watch long ones but this I viewed from start to finish! Completely agree with everything said too - this game is a huge departure from the iconic originals. It's trying too hard to be stylish and ends up being a visual mess of effects and insufferable dialogue. The persistent interruptions of headache-inducing cutscenes infuriate and I hate how much Rockstar DNA has wormed itself into this game despite being a fan of their other work. Twitchy controls, dumbed-down gameplay and a total loss of identity ruins it. I tolerated it a decade ago but after trying to replay it again, it's left a very bad taste. Remedy need to buy that IP back!
The game is kinda fun, but the story and some of max's actions are unexplainable, like the scene in the airport where he sneaks untill he finds becker and then he just walks into the enemy and everyone just watches him until he takes cover😅 or the fact that after the favela mission he says its best to hide among the crowd and then just walks in a spot he can get ambushed, these are tiny little things but they really do make game look rubbish in my view
I agree with the overall verdict - Max Payne 3 isn't really a Max Payne game, it's another one of Rockstar's delusions about what a video-game should be. I wouldn't say it is a bad game on its own, if the name of Max Payne was scraped from it entirely - it would've still be a decent game with flaws, but what makes it agonizing is the potential of what a modernized continuation of Max Payne 3 COULD be. Control performs in that regard much, much better without actually sharing the tone, name or setting of Max Payne. Control is a more faithful game to Max Payne than Max Payne 3, what a joke. I do disagree with you on several minor, more precise points, or rather... I think your angle is a bit wrong. When you ask 'Why would you remove the jump button' or 'Why would you make bullet jump physically interact with obstacles' you miss the point. Rockstar had an entirely different philosophy going into this project, that same philosophy plagues their games to this day and I believe it holds them back. It's realism, my man. It's all about 'ooo, let's make it look REAL, lets make it REALISTIC'. Realistic physics, realistic animations, realistic player speed, realistic weapons. When you shoot from the cover without peeking - you can still get shot because your hands physically catch bullets. Why would it work that way? Why would I blind-fire from cover if I am still vulnerable? It makes 0 sense from a game design view point, oh but it makes perfect sense from a 'LETS MAKE IT LIKE ITS REAL' view point. They did not add a jump button because jumping in the middle of the room for no reason is NOT REALISTIC, in real life you jump only when trying to cross a gap or climb over something. When you comb through the game and really scrutinize every detail like that - it becomes clear that they didn't really want to make a video game, it was more of a... interactive simulated movie, a showcase of physics+animations engine they were very proud of. Everything except the technical aspects and realism took a nosedive in comparison with previous games, the tone, the flow of combat, the writing, the setting. It doesn't make sense to make a game with completely different strengths and completely new glaring weaknesses, but it does if you don't really give a shit about the 'source material' and are just using the name to sell whatever you yourself want to make.
@@user-xf5ej5od8f Max Payne 3 is not the best 3rd person shooter of all time. It is a closed room headshot simulator. If they restricted player control even a tiny bit more it would have become a rail shooter.
@@KronugiN I don't know how they restricted the player's control. The game has the same gameplay structure of all the others Max Payne games. Try lowering the difficulty and maybe you would enjoy it more and wouldn't find it a railway shooter.
Actually it depends on the person who plays the game and how they interact with its mechanics. I didn't find the game restrictive at all. From my experience Max Payne 3 has more fluid gameplay and Movements than any 3rd person shooter game I've ever played and I almost played all the best 3rd person shooters.
3 has to be my favourite in the entire series. I remember playing this game while I was doing badly in school. While I was no alcholic, and I am still not one, this game taught me to let go and try again.
Max payne 3 sucks really bad if you trying to play it "realistically". Sometimes you get hit by bullet but there is no damage like wtf? You often get control over Max when he gets to some ridiculous spot. As you mentioned, you can shoot to point while being unreachable for enemy. Enemies always know exactly where you are, but that's not how it works in reality, because you have to always look out to know where exactly people are, but they stand in cover, sometimes not even looking out at all, and they react to you like they know your exact spot like wall hack. Because of that, it's realy annoying when you move around levels. Sometimes enemies come at you out of nowhere, again, with knowledge of your exact spot. "Bosses" are also seem very cheap. These slow mo moments (like on hook) are also cr.ap, because you are very easy to get shot like that. Helmets also have cheap mechanics. And why Max refuses to wear armor and helmet?
Max Payne 3 isn't a bad game by any means it's just different than the previous ones. Do you want to play the same game over and over again? Play Assassin's creed games or something like that!
Just played for the first time. Lack of melee was a switch and the inability to carry and swap multiple weapons took adjusting. Still a fine game with remarkable moments. No disappointment for me. I think 2 is still my personal favorite.
Well said - I tried to get through the early chapters but found it just repetitive while completely lacking in storytelling that has ANY connection to the previous games or even to the wry noir ambience and tone that they had. I hated the faux cinematic effects, especially that glitchiness and the double images - did Rockstar think that we had to see the world through the eyes of an alcholic painkiller addict in order to get really immersive in the game? That was an idiotic idea, which apparently NO-ONE in the Rockstar hierarchy had the cojones to point out. So anyway, thanks for putting out on video just what I was thinking, and a whole lot more besides. Cheers, fellah.
IN MP3 max payne is old, drunk, not in his prime and dealing with a substance abuse. It kinda makes sense that he can't move as fast, is worse at diving, takes more damage and that the retelling is somewhat off since he can't remember exactly right.
Sam Lake's excellent writing is shown in the fact that he was able to make me feel more for Alex who's seen for three stills before he dies in the first act than Fabiana who dies 4.5 hours into the game
Lmao no one gave a shit about Alex
@@mandu6665 You gotta chill a bit, kid. I'm just comparing that I felt more for Alex than this hoe after 4.5 hours of seeing her.
@@mandu6665 ure wrong
So im the only one who loves every Max Payne game? Allright.
I actually believe Max Payne 3 is the best out of the trilogy. I played 1 and 2 and enjoyed them well but 3 really hit something for me. It was the fact that Max was at his lowest here and they made Max a fish out of water giving it a shall I say a feeling of being alone. Literally the only actual other English speaking people in the game (besides the New Jersey segments) are shady as hell. Making it hard you to even consider trusting the only people max knew.
Yeah don’t listen to peppa pig
i absolutely loved it.
@@carpet163 thank you
@@rustydangeruss8763 Ok... For what exactly?
Love the fanboys who didn't watch the video all hyping up how great it is without specifying why, or fighting ghosts and strawmen.
ehhh, i definitely understand the criticism of mp3 being "too linear" but going back and playing MP1 and MP2, those games arent as open ended as people seem to think. you can backtrack and sometimes go into a room that isnt required, you can look through cupboards and drawers. for some, this may be seen as immersive and realistic. for others, its tedious and annoying. i think MP3 tried to streamline the game even more, sometimes to a disadvantage but other times in its favor, i.e locking doors behind you after a checkpoint, having ammo and painkillers in plain view instead of in cupboards. i personally appreciate it's linearity, sometimes you don't want a game where you need to explore every nook and cranny. sometimes its nice to just breeze through levels feeling like an action movie hero. max does feel more weighty in 3, but i don't mind it honestly. gives more impact to everything that happens. when you finish a shootdodge, he really slams into that ground. he looks like he weighs more here than in the other games as well, not saying that is why they designed him this way but it helps it's case. also, in the case of "you need to land headshots" i think it gives the game a bit more depth. instead of mindlessly shooting everything that moves, you purposely try to get headshots and get rid of the threat quicker. and besides, they definitely still get injured when you shoot them anywhere else. playing MP3 made me better at headshots in other games LOL and you dont really ever NEED to use the cover system during combat besides that one fixed scene. its really only used to build up bullet-time meter, and maybe land a cheeky kill here or there. i barely found myself actually using the cover system much, and when i did i found that i enjoyed the change of being able to just take a break for a second.
it's certainly a different take on max payne, and that's definitely what the developers had in mind, given the change in tone, gameplay, even max acts a bit different. sure its a "sequel" but i've always seen it as a soft reboot, and i think rockstar almost treated it as such. it "wraps up max's story" but not much of his story carried over from the other games, and it can be played without any other context for the most part. some flaws, but i enjoyed max payne 3 as a big big fan
my personal ranking is 2>3>1. but honestly none of them are BAD.
MP 1 and 2 allowed you to backtrack, it didn't force you. Same with looking through drawers, it was extra bonus stuff, not a requirement. It couldn't be construed as tedious because you could just not do that.
Going for headshots isn't added depth, that's every basic shooter strategy, except MP3 also has slow mo so every time enemies appear in a cutscene you just activate it and shoot them all in the head. It works 100% of the time and if anything makes you engage even less with the game since firefights are over so quickly.
Everyone also talks about how you don't NEED to take cover, but that's bullshit and like saying you don't NEED a prostate exam. Maybe if the aiming wasn't so shitty that might be valid, or if the environments weren't so cluttered.
@@JZStudiosonline You don't need to take cover, skill issue. If you don't want to use the slow mo and cheese headshots then simply don't do it. You're complaining about the game while willingly using cheese tactics. Try actually playing the game. You do realize slowmo and bullet time runs out, right? You cant just endlessly use it to cheese everything especially on a higher difficulty.
@@deathbyslipknot fucking eat ass. This game fucking blows.
Disappointing? This game is a masterpiece!
"bUt It DeOsN't LoOK dArK"
it is just not max payne. at all.
@@AG-zt8iiliterally😂😂😂
He does make good points here and there but alot of his other criticisms seem more like nitpicks than anything. Even if it has flaws it's still a great game tbh
Absolute masterpiece, anyone who says they hate it and it’s disappointing are upset they didn’t have the skills for New York minute hardcore LOL.
38:18 did u forget that he was threatning them with a gun and muscle and was probably going to take to the back ally for god knows what he was planning (hence why they were waiting there)
The fact that they removed the comic storyline in MP3 is unacceptable!
Speaking of the story you mentioned that one of the flaws was they had "taken him too seriously" erm... max payne 3 is less serious than max payne 2, simply because it's so over-the-top in it's portrayal of depression that it's almost an insult to those actually afflicted by it. Not to mention that the only reason it's set in Brazil is the devs watched Elite Squad and got the completely wrong idea from it.
snowflake got insulted by a video game's depiction of depression, keep being offended on the behalf of others, I'm sure it'll score you tons of brownie points with them
Coming back to this video after replaying Max Payne 3, I still have to disagree with you about this game being "bad". Granted I still agree with certain points you made like the unskippable cutscenes and lack of manual saving etc. but a lot of the other points you made seem to be more nitpicks than anything else like the gameplay not being strategic or having "shit controls" or even the fact it was set in Brazil instead of New York.
Rockstar clearly didn't want to just make a carbon copy sequel of the previous games and wanted to do something fresh and unique while still trying to stay true to Max Payne (for the most part) which I honestly appreciated considering certain series unfortunately have the problem of them all starting to become too formulaic and samey in later titles like Far Cry or Silent Hill. All three games (while not perfect) are great, and I'd even go as far to say this is the best video game trilogy to exist.
This game is quite literally a combination of every 7th generation trend ever, it's anything but unique
@@i_love_musique333 Yeah, that was another thing, it's super generic. The only thing it has going for it is slow-mo ragdolls which aren't that impressive and is bested by Sniper Elite V2.
@_musique333 Bro this couldn't be further from the truth. Hell, it literally has a multiplayer that manages to implement Max Payne's iconic bullet time mechanic almost perfectly creating an incredible multiplayer experience or you just gonna deny that too?
Brazil isn’t a place that fits max payne’s tone and narrative, and the reason he moves out of New York is overall nonsensical. His point is valid.
@@sonny661yt8 In terms of the setting, it's a reasonable criticism since on the surface it seems out of place or unnatural for the third game to be set in Brazil but after hearing what Remedy originally had in mind for their version of Max Payne 3 and 4 makes Rockstar's decision to set the game in Brazil make sense. Remedy stated that with their sequels they wanted the weather to change in each game to reflect Max's emotional state with Max Payne 1 being the worst (in the snowy blizzard night) to Max Payne 4 (in the bright sunny day), so Rockstar took that idea quite literally by just taking Max to Brazil.
While it’s still a valid criticism it still feels like he’s nitpicking just because it isn’t identical to the previous two games without even trying to understand why they made the decisions in the first place.
I loved this game but I can understand why some people wouldn't like it, so whatever. About 12 minutes into this video I just gave up because you're upset the game didn't do what you wanted it to do, not so much that it really did anything "bad" Then you complained that Max stays prone too long after a shootdodge "plus the animation of Max getting up takes forever..." _then 30 seconds later you show Max shootdodging then getting up in about 1 second_ (@ 10:55) Maybe you had better points further along in the video but for a video clocking almost 73 minutes long I think I'll pass.
@@i_love_musique333 this entire video is him being mad they evolved from Max Payne 1 and 2, he's the definition of an angry fanboy lmao
That's basically video game criticism in 2024. It's NOT WHAT I WANTED so it's shit. Video game discourse has never been dumber, more susceptible to fake hype/outrage due to $$$, etc.
So I watched this whole video and I actually don't get what's with all the dislikes. You made a few very valid points. I think, as a diehard Max Payne fan (as I am, personally), you just feel the utter lack of disconnect with Max Payne as a character in the third installment. He just doesn't feel like himself, the storytelling is lackluster and the setting couldn't have been a worse choice. They could have worked with the alcoholism and painkiller addiction storyline SO WELL, actually, but only if they actually kept what made Max Max...and that is the brooding underdog with a poetic streak who is up against the world but doesn't want to be, who doesn't ask for revenge or trouble, but it all seems to come to him regardless.
Even if Max lost himself at the bottom of a bottle which is very realistic, he wouldn't, in a million years, have that kind of a speech at the grave after the events of MP2. Mona WAS grief, but she still meant something to him, not just "an unfinished business." She helped him find CLOSURE. And a Max who got closure wouldn't still say the things he did, just like you pointed out. Yes, he could still suffer, but not seem like he stood at a standstill for 9 years. Come the fuck on...is Rockstar gonna pretend that's all he did for a decade? Feel sorry for himself?
And the disconnect with the original character doesn't stop there. In Max Payne 3, he comes across as edgy for the sake of being edgy, there's no thought provoking anything about his speech, nothing memorable, just layers of self-pitty and downright laughable language snippets, such as the whole "I wouldn't know right from wrong if one was helping the poor and the other was banging my sister." Yikes. Cringe as hell. That sounded like something Tommy Vercetti would say, or any Rockstar protagonist, but not Max.
This goes to show that a bigger buget doesn't essentially translate into a better game. Max Payne has ALWAYS been led by character and storyline, the outside world came second. The third installment got it backwards by assuming that us, as a fandom, only wanted flashy mechanics and layers of mob and twisted storylines for the sake of "oh, I surprised you there." (even if you could literally call the plot from the get-go, it was so obvious). No, what everyone wanted was what made Max Payne unique in the first place - the incredible speech, the feeling of justifiable revenge, fate, evolution, anti-hero, the Noir setting, comic-style storytelling etc.
Yeah you're right i disagree in a Few points, but you're right, The hard truth is Max payne 3 needed sam lake special writing, dan houser and the other Screenwriter's didn't get the whole point of max payne as a character i mean lets pick up Die hard movies for example im Not saying that MP3 IS BAD far from it but i doesn't look líke a True max payne experience, lets go back to the Die hard movie, Die hard 1 and Die hard 2 is good Very good, but the last movie was so strange and out of place and filled with no purpose action that the story at one point didn't make any sense and character development was unexistent and the same thing was applied in MP3 the character doesn't go forward, im a writer and i know what im talking about, there is plenty of character structure to use, but the one that they used here is out of place doesn't fit max i mean for the whole game he doesn't changed a bit he stills at the end the same in the begining a self pity miserable bastard that probably two days after the end of the game would be Drunk and half dead in some degenerate bar in the suburbs of Bahia.
The main thing that i want to say is the character for the whole game he didn't changed and this is a problem. in the two other games max changed somehow ,he had a solid character arc, but dan houser and his writing crew main mistake in the writing was to left only some 2 to 3 minutes at the Very end of the game just to show that ""probably""" max changed when they should show and not tell some apperent change in max conduct right in the middle of the game or in the clímax of the plot, not Three minutes to show that he "changed".
The game isn't bad is good Very fucking good but the story missed and a lot sam Lake special noir writing style, and dan houser was so in the need to do something different that this transition of mood setting style, feels strange and out of place this is a good game a good action game, But not a good max payne game.
Rockstar fanboys, that explains it.
I said the same thing before they turned the dislike polls off
Perfect. Agree on every single point. I'm deeply disappointed by this game, as a Max Payne's fan myself
@@tmgranato I think the game is far easier to enjoy if you pretend it's not Max Payne 3, just a standard Rockstar creation. If you look at it like that, it's not a bad game at all. Same as Postal III fans who don't acknowledge that game at all LOL.
and what did u expect at 10:47? for him to bounce back?!?
I thought the game was a total failure compared to Max Payne 1-2. Max Payne 3 is almost like a parody of Payne 1-2. The shooting is fun, but that's all. 1-2 were works of art, 3 was a cash grab.
Not a cash grab. You could tell Dan really wanted to make the game and enjoyed writing it. It just meh.
Max Payne 3 has better combat and gunplay than any 3rd person shooter ever made. The multiplayer is also very good.
I always felt as if Max Payne 3 was more of a reboot/ alternate story and not as much a sequel.
It's so shit why would you out a dark noir NYPD cop in a fun loving Brazilian dance setting 😂 dogshit
it's what I refer to as a light-reboot, an inbetween of a sequel and a soft reboot
the maps were very good in terms of detail and concept espcially the favela: it was very interactive(u had enemies poping windows,roofs,houses and the choatic building lets you fin a cover in less then 3 seconds ) and there was nothing wrong with the npcs (when u fire they take cover,if u'r not doing anything they will push and they communicate with each other or cursing at you) just like any other AAA game and i do agree that there few problems in the story but their are no problem with the mechanics except maybe in the last man standing when u run out of ammo or the gun just aime somwhere else an u can't shoot ur target
I couldn’t agree more, it’s generic as fuck. Max Payne isn’t supposed to be a generic, badly written, badly paced, boring, unfair, linear cover based shooter. The dialogue is just plain lazy garbage. It couldn’t lace the first two’s boots.
Max Payne 3 on PC is the best 3rd person shooter of all time imo. The cover system is good in this game and makes the gameplay much better than the first two parts when you don't overuse it. You don't have to rely on taking covers to enjoy the game. My advice is to play this game on normal or easy mode.
It's not generic at all. It has better combat and gunplay than any 3rd person shooter ever made to this day.
You are delusional or biased if you say Max Payne 3 was garbage.
is it different than the previous games? Yes, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game by any means.
The story in Max Payne 3 actually makes sense unlike the first two which were just weird.
The game isn't a cover based shooter. I literally finished it 3 times on old school which is the highest difficulty without using covers.
The linearity is what killed it for me: I don't like when a game doesn't let you explore an area at all and just wants you to walk through a pre-determined corridor to trigger the next cutscene that will lead you to the next corridor.
What's buffling is that the setting would have been perfect to implement multichoice paths and even stealth, especially in the first section when Max has to retrieve the hostages.
I understand why the developers abandoned the idea of carrying the entire arsenal of the game at any time, but they rarely give the players enough opportunity to wield something that isn't the common pistol/uzi + shotgun/assault rifle combo and most are relegated to on rail shooting sections.
this game lets explore as much as the other two if more (to find the collectables)
@@phsychomancer1084 Yeah, not sure what he was talking about. Max Payne 1 at least was entirely linear and it had a few nonsensical puzzles where you had to do something unorthodox without any hints that it was the only way forward. "Perfectly paced and a lot of freedom" might describe MP2 but definitely not the first game which has not aged well at all.
They could of called it something else. It didnt have to be max Payne. They wanted cash out on the name. I'm not here to say it's good or bad. What I am saying weather you liked 3 or didnt like it the game is not really a max payne game other then the bullet time. They could of called it something else and made a different game.
@@neattricks7678 they are all kinda linear. You might have to look around a little but the places are so small theres really 1 way to go and doesnt take long to figure out where to go.
Yeah, overall linear but after having found the secrets in 1 and 2? You actually have to pause moving forward and destroy a wall or window to find the secrets and get hidden ammo or Easter eggs.
I get brain tumour watching those cutscenes because of the flashing and other garbage
I identify with everything u said in this video. What do u think about the remake of MP 1 and 2? It is being done by Remedy
I disagree but my god this video is a great argument against MP3
I played all 3 Max Payne games back to back to back, and 3 was the one I had the hardest time getting all the way through, because I would just end up getting kind of frustrated with it. Max Payne 1 and 2 had such a fun gameplay loop and 3 kinda just feels like it wanted to be Rockstar's answer to Uncharted. The best parts of 3 is when they let you play it like a Max Payne game. I'd be lying if I said I hated the game, it's a lot better than most games out there, but I definitely can't say I loved it as much as the first two.
Because it wasn't made by remedy.
As a Rockstar fan myself, this is one of their poorer games.
@@MAGNUSWAKERS no, it’s amazing, you’re just comparing it to the first 2
@@MAGNUSWAKERS IMO it's their weakest by far.
@@randomman6351 don't be a fan boy and accept the fact that other people can have other opinions.
@@randomman6351 As a counterbalance, I do enjoy the increased level of gore (gunshots in particular are strong, impactful and quite literally the best out of the MP series to date) and sordidness feel gives it a unique feel of atmosphere and some characters such as Pásos are fun and engaging but in terms of everything else - to cut this shorter than a paragraph: It's Max Payne's journey and words which hold no real emotional weight, it feels too...empty and much, much less the full pain of a man who lost everything dear to him. Even in 2, he waxed his depression a bit too much for my liking. The series is always has been a bit of an awkward duckling but it's emotional factor was always it's strong point, I fear MP3 fails in this regard to deliver me characters I truly hate, love or insipidly admire. Rockstar likes dirty, down-to-earth characters with satire but they really didn't hit strong with Payne in particular.
I love all Max Payne games and for some reason I prefer the third ones more grounded approach more, I love the challenge in it too
Yeah max Payne 3 really had a fun gameplay loop, whilst shackled too tightly to the cutscenes/gameplay it was overall my favourite 3ps I’d say
Honestly, with maturity, max payne 3 gets so much better. I vehemently disagree with this video. It also holds up graphically. Not even joking, max payne 3 max graphics, high refresh monitor and more is still beautiful.
50:52 Max had no idea about Winterson's conflicting loyalties at that point in time. It was purely impulse, and that is why he is so shocked when it happens, and it was purely love. But the part you're right about is that what he said in Max Payne 3 made no sense. It would make sense, however, if they mentioned a good reason for his guilt. By killing both Vlad and Winterson, he killed not only mirrors of himself ("brothers on opposite sides of a civil war" ring a bell?), but also left her pre-pubescent blind son an orphan.
I still don't understand the hate for this game much. It was a good game.
From my experience most people who hate Max Payne 3 are the biased Remedy's Max Payne fanboys.
The game is well received by most people.
@@user-sc9ux9kl2b exactly. I don't get it at all. Rockstar tried its best to stay true to the original source.
@@user-sc9ux9kl2bthe remedy max Payne fanboys suck at MP3 that’s why, it’s pretty much a skill issue with them
Its not......its f'ing great
These so called OG fans don't know what's the difference between innovation and downgrading. Max Payne 3 innovates not a downgrade.
Max Payne 3 does anything but innovate, it’s another cover based shooter like many other cover based shooters in the 7th generation.
@@sonny661yt8 I find the criticism about it being very heavy on cover mechanics completely absurd considering you can still very well play the game as a regular Max Payne game the only time it really forces you too actively use the cover mechanic whether you like it or not is in at the end of Chapter 10 where Max is on the bus causing a distraction while Giovanna goes to Passo other than that Rockstar tried not to make it the main focus of the gameplay.
Rockstar explained in gameplay trailers that the cover mechanics served more as a rest break from the action to help you get time to heal and plan your next strategy which it's pretty clear considering it's not very polished compared to the rest of the gunplay mechanics not to mention they actually discourage you from staying in cover with enemies that try to flush you out with grenades, charging tactics and even certain cases being able to shoot through cover but not all the cover is destructible unfortunately. The game also rewards the player with more bullet time the more they take risks in combat, so I always ended up playing it like a normal Max Payne game anyway.
@@SlurpyPie I don't know how you can claim that you could play it as the same as the other Max Payne games. Other Max Payne games had you exploring a location and progressing through it naturally, even finding alternate paths sometimes.
In 90% of MP3 gunfights you are placed in a specific point after a cutscene plays out. You get a set of enemies to kill, then some more will enter into this scripted arena for you to headshot, and then you make a few steps into another room for a cutscene to play out, rinse and repeat.
@@sonny661yt8 As much as I love MP1 and MP2 they aren’t as open ended as y’all make them out to be, sure you can explore a location more freely and whatnot but they’re still pretty linear in nature with the only difference between those games and MP3 being that you don’t get interrupted by a cutscene leaving the player with those quiet moments in between each gunfight but that’s it really. I’m certain Rockstar just wanted to streamline it even more, sometimes to a disadvantage but also sometimes to its favour so even tho I have my problems with the game’s presentation (like with the inability to skip a decent amount of cutscenes or a lack of manual saving) I still appreciate it’s linearity as I was just able to breeze through the game enjoying the game’s combat and story (despite the story’s glaring flaws).
As for the combat itself there’s more to it than what you think, the enemies can't all die in one shot unless it's a headshot (obviously) basically forcing you to get better at aim so that’s when the enemies start wearing helmets nearing the end of the game, not to mention have body armour which means you're then forced to land two headshots instead of one basically putting your skills to the test which I really liked and added a lot to the gameplay but since they implemented Euphoria physics it also encouraged me to experiment on the enemies like with me shooting them in the legs or if they were wearing body armour then I’d shoot their body armour to throw them off their balance or even diving into them to get them to fall over onto the ground so that I could do a melee kill or kill other enemies nearby before moving back on to said enemy instead of just only landing headshots on all the enemies even if the headshots in this game are satisfying af.
Also I find it funny how you immediately deflected my point by talking about a completely different point that had nothing to do with my original comment XD
@@SlurpyPie Complete and utter misrepresentation of my point, nice strawman tactic.
Max Payne 1 and 2 aren’t open world by any means, but they didn’t have you constantly in a specific point after a cutscene you can’t skip and then forcing you to headshot these set of scripted specific enemies, like I said, I had you exploring the environment naturally without constantly being interrupted by boring long cutscene that you can’t skip. And I didn’t deflect anything. Your comment said that MP3 can be played like the previous games and that’s factually wrong.
Previous Max Payne games emphasized that you don't need to land headshots to be effective. Headshots still did lethal damage, but the damage you receive and deal to enemies made it completely okay to enjoy a gunfight spectacle that comes from run-and-gun gameplay.
MP3 has literal slow-mo sections where you have to land headshots in quick succession while airborne after a cutscene. The rest of the gameplay doesn't differ much from that because every facet of MP3 pushes you towards avoiding body shots.
I wouldn’t recommend anyone to play the game above normal cause it just becomes a headshot simulator. But the railway part doesn't go away because your control is constantly being taken away from you to put you through another cutscene. Open door - cutscene. Press a button - cutscene. This is very like Rockstar, stripping away as much control from you as they can.
I prefer the storytelling of Max Payne 1&2 but i prefer the gameplay in Max Payne 3, the physics are mostly the best part of it
Spot on about everything. Even tho I'm one of the people who say the gameplay is good or even great at times even if the story sucks. Bought MP3 again after all the years and I gotta say I didn't feel like beating it more than once.
It's much better on PC than consoles.
@@user-xf5ej5od8f I heard the first thing people did on PC was a mod to skip the cutscenes and those cutscenes are one of the things which keep me from playing this game more often than once a year or two. Also the pinpoint headshotting is probably easier with mouse than analog sticks but I didn't personally feel that was a problem.
The guy in the video is clueless .
Max Payne 3 is by far the best 3rd person shooter in the last 15 years.
I agree much didn't change with Max shaving his head. He still couldn't save Fabiana.
44:35 I totally get your point, but I could see Max still willing to rescue someone in danger, money or no money.
I wish there would've been more to Fabiana's character, but I was still sad to see her go.
dude you cant just expect the game to be the exact same as the last ones when you knew it was being developed and written by a completely different team of developers all your criticism comes from the fact it not just like MP2 in terms of gameplay and story. if you actually listened to R* before the game came out you would know exactly what you were buying and how it was gonna be different than the first 2
that’s probably good and cool for a stand-alone game, not max payne
Yeah, GTA6 is actually going to be first person only and all you do is wrestle gators as a cop. Because you don't need to stick with brand or franchise identity.
@@JZStudiosonline how did it move did it move away from brand identity?
I agree with most of your opinions however, I still enjoyed playing this game.
The cutscenes can be skipped with mods with only a few being game breaking.
20:30
It’s a shame you never brought up Vanquish, it’s a game that has a bullet-time mechanic and does it so well that it might be one of, if not the actual best third person shooter of all time.
Vanquish is definitely underrated & under the radar of a lot of people. I had a lot of fun with it.
Max Payne 3 is the best game in the series imo. I finished the whole game on hard mode without using the cover system.
Max payne 2 was one of my favourite childhood games, so after I finally bought a pc good enough and tried this, after the first level I knew this was not going to be good and i gave up at the boat section of the game.
Thank you, you nailed every problem I had with the game.
Most of his takes aren't really problems in the game, he is just nitpicking the hell out of the game and complaining about how it's different than the previous ones.
@@user-sc9ux9kl2b I will say he does make a few good points that I agree with, but he also makes criticisms that seem more like nitpicks for the game being different from the sequels especially considering its set in Brazil.
Man honestly this is one of my favorite games of all time but after going back and playing the whole series I completely understand the criticism it is so frustrating when you’re trying to play the game and just zone out and have fun and shoot some bad guys and you get interrupted by an eight minute on skippable cut scene every five minutes other than that it’s one of the best games of all time in my opinion but compared to the action of the first two games I get why people complain it’s a very valid critique
See this is the problem with the new generation that's what I like this piece of shit game
I think that Max Payne 3 is the best 3rd person shooter of all time, but I agree with you about the unskippable cutscenes.
They should remaster the game only to fix this problem.
@@nilevalleyafrican9451OK boomer 😂
@@user-jk3kt1yo2o the first time someone's called me a boomer. You deserve a medal !
This is a really good video! I played through the series sequentially with my parents watching, so I had no love for the character prior to finishing MP2. After that, though, I became a fan of the series. And while I love Max Payne 3 as a standalone game, and found that the gameplay does get much better with repeat playthroughs (once you know all the painkiller locations, enemy spawns, etc, and are used to the weird balancing changes), I also despise what it did to Max as a character and wished it had stronger protagonists and character introductions for sure.
However, being Brazilian myself, I recognise the effort that went into both the soundtrack and the story. A lot of the plot may seem generic or uninteresting to you, but to me and my parents it was like watching our political system's corruption get broken down to its basic components. I think Rockstar's mistake was that they tried so hard to make (and succeeded in making) a realistic portrayal of Brazil, that they forgot to make an accurate portrayal of Max. They focused on the wrong thing, basically. Getting the references to the real world and recognising instruments and beats used in the OST enhances the experience a LOT, though. You're 100% on point, but there -is- more to MP3 than meets the eye.
Also, I think Max Payne 1's difficulty balancing is really bad, even on the easiest difficulty. Even watching your footage - look at the amount of times you die and have to reload a save literally just around the corner. You either savescum or you get frustrated and stop playing. I ended up modding my game to increase the 'autoaim' radius and decrease incoming damage by half. That made the game waay more fun to me and made me truly feel like an action hero. MP2 is absolutely perfect though, both in balancing and in story. An absolute masterpiece and a masterclass in how to make a proper sequel. Unlike the joke that is Half-Life 2.
After reading the comments I think that most people don't know how to properly play this game. Max Payne 3 is a john wick simulator, you don't have to play it on the highest difficulty to enjoy it.
I had the most fun playing this game on normal and easy mode killing enemies john wick style.
Actually the cover system in Max Payne 3 is perfect. Being vulnerable even when you are taking cover is a actually a good thing not a con, otherwise it would be too easy, not challenging and wouldn't encourage you to move from your cover.
They didn't add the jump button because there aren't enough buttons on consoles to add the jump button lol.
I don't have any problem with bullet time stopping when you physically interacts with objects, it's actually provided many cool moments in my gameplay.
@@user-xf5ej5od8fLotta people will play the game only once and be like "UGGHHHHHH I KEEP DYING" and never learn how the game play clicks. Ive replayed this game so many times its just so fucking satisfying.
Not the games fault. It gives you plenty of health items, at times id find myself hoarding 8 pill containers at a time on hard mode
For me max payne 1 and 2 had a great atmosphere it kinda pulled you in, i didnt have that feeling from mp3
I agree with you about the atmosphere, but from gameplay perspective Max Payne 3 is the best in the series.
Didn't like Max Payne 2 atomsphere. Max Payne 1&3 are my favorites.
@@A-oo8mw completely understandable. I like 2 way less then 1 but comparing the atmosphere for me between 2 Nd 3 2 lost the noir york vibe but still had that certain max payne style dark tone which i miss with mp3
The game didn't feel like Max Payne.
At all.
It feels like a prototype for GTA5.
Not to mention the story makes no sense.
for example:
He killed hundreds of mobsters and goons in the first two games only to run when he's faced with a much less dangerous situation in the 3rd?
The guy should be a scary story to these people but nah. That'd make too much sense.
Hell even in the second mission in MP2 the guys attacking Vlad confirm this.
You do realise the monsters he killed in the first 2 games are not around anymore right? The mobsters in 3 are a low teir family in Jersery thinking they are big shots
It's like you guys never played the 3rd lol
@sonic 1995 How?
@sonic 1995 They probably know. They just don't care considering where Max is at with his life
I'm glad someone has the exact same problem with this game, and to add to my opinion it literally feels like you're playing a bullet time GTA, just without the open world, that's what this game feels like it was meant to be and rockstars rage engine does not help this at all, it only worsens it, but I don't want to play gta I want Max Payne I just wish rockstar would just give the max Payne rights back to remedy,
gta 5 copied the shooting mechanichs FROM MP3 dumbass
Also give them the IP? Sell it to them? This is a business dumbass they arent just giving properties away. They could sell it to them or let them develope it but its still their IP for now. Companies don't just give their franchises away for free. Dammit nintendo why didnt you give microsoft mario and pikachu 🤣🤣🤣
I honestly dont care if a franchise I like comes back or not. Alot of the time games that come back a decade later they are trash. I'd rather see a new IP be good and let the IP I liked RIP
Rockstar did a great job with Max Payne 3. I am so excited for Remedy's Max Payne remake.
So you are clueless just like the guy in this video lol .
I love max payne 3 to me its the best
L take
@@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy ok?
@@MrMr.45 bro just took it 🤣
@@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy I don't know why I'm responding to this but the fact that you have to make fun of someone over the internet and may I add over a 5 month comment really goes to show how lonely you truly are I will not be responding to you anymore because it's not worth my time
-too many cutscenes
-cutscenes are too long (the first hour is like for fifths cutscenes)
-forced button prompts constantly that pause everything just so you know you can press a button
-mostly cutscenes with 3-5 minutes of shooting in between
*This is the most boring game I have ever played*
I stopped at the stadium level because I just couldn't suffer the rest of the game scrolling through my phone waiting for the gameplay to start and stop a couple minutes later for another 10 minute cutscene.
*Absolutely horrendous game.*
David Cage makes more interesting games.
*The first game was fun though.* I remember shooting rats in that one.
I remembered making homeless druggies warm for the rest of their lives in the first Max Payne, nuff said.
Max Payne 3 has the best 3rd person shooter gameplay ever made and you clowns have the audacity to compare it to David Cage's games 😂.
skill issue
The game isn't a cover based shooter. I literally finished it 3 times on old school which is the highest difficulty without using covers.
Old school is easier than hard LOL
Max Payne 3 disappointed me, and it may just be because I played it very late. But I'm not really mad at it (there's a high chance I would've enjoyed it more at its time, I don't think it aged very well).
As a game on its own, it's alright, I did enjoy the gunplay, but I hated the tedious *"shoot shoot, cutscene, shoot shoot, cutscene"* cycle. I just wish the writing helped a little. It is strange, because Houser usually writes really cool missions and backstories, but this one felt thrown together for whatever.
Honestly I still enjoyed this game as much as the previous games but MP3 is when the gunplay in the series peaked (imo) cause it's got a surprising amount of depth and is extremely satisfying but people like Mister No Life probably don't like it cause it's too different from the originals and as a result don't bother trying to learn leading to them to not accurately presenting the game's best qualities and I personally didn't mind the cutscenes but I'd be lying if I said they didn't annoy me from time to time, still have no idea why they thought it was a good idea to make a decent amount of them unskippable smh.
Also while I think MP3's narrative is the weakest of the three I still thought it was decent and liked what they tried to do with the story even if they unfortunately didn't fully stick the landing and the dialogue didn't feel like Max Payne esque for like 70 to 80 percent of the game but it was probably due to the troubling development and this is why I'd love if they remake MP3 after the first two games cause there's so much more this game could've been and even tho I still enjoy it thoroughly if they learnt from their mistakes and improved upon the game it would be an easy 10/10 for me but as of right now I'm gonna rate this a 7 or even 8/10 which isn't bad in fact I'd say it's still pretty good for something released in 2012 compared to third person shooters today.
The cutscenes in this game are so horrible.
Yeah that's my only problem with the game everything else is top notch.
This video describes 40% of my feelings towards Max Payne 3, some of things of the gameplay enfuriate me and the story has nothing to do with Max Payne and it makes no sense of repeating the same thing of Max Payne 2´s ending which was Max forgiving himself and moving on. I just don´t say what i think because i don´t want people to see me as a massive Remedy fanboy, don´t get me wrong, i like MP3 but 1 and 2 are way better than 3.
Uh not really. Even after 2 Max pretty much lost everything and his reaction towards the end was a coping mechanism. I found the ending of 3 to be a much more fulfilling end to his character showing that he's living in the present (not narrating himself) and literally walking off into the sunset at peace. Saying that 3 repeating 1 and 2 is dead wrong on the terms of how 3 handled his character.
face it its just nostalgia
@@davecarterNV5 watch the video . you actually well we re coming from, if you actually heard the points .... just gow18 fanboys when ppl talk about some negative aspects of the game
@@WELSHGAMER99 this comment is a coping mechanism. seethe
Exactly. Story had nothing to do with Max Payne.
Have you played Control? Do you also have glimpses of Max Payne 2 gameplay? To me a bit yes.
Thank you for this. I know it's really late, but I guess TH-cam's algorithm smiled upon us for once.
I was desperate to hear a review that finally understands what a pos this game is. Thanks again.
One thing that brought MY blood to a boil was what they did to the story. Not that they ruined it or told a bad one that doesn't make sense... that would be disappointing, not infuriating. No, what's infuriating is actually, for me, the connections it does make to the original. I'll just mention the most egregious point here:
What was done to Max's inner monologue was nothing less than an assault.
Whether it's the writer's own crooked mirror that shown Max like this, or the writer's own take on our favorite noir game hero, I leave to you to decide. What's important is that the reflective attitude of the subtle, brooding man are here, in a word, disrespected. Not written badly, or differently, but contemptuously.
These lines of monologue hate Max Payne to the point of always making him grotesque, while the whole point of the noir hero was his subtlety and coolness (think Bogart). It's not a misunderstanding of the genre it's an assault on the genre. Something in the writer's eye perceives Max's brooding demeanor and constant reflection as traits to ridicule-via-caricature. As if the values, and the person holding them up, had imploded, or died and started rotting from the inside, and what we are proudly presented with here is the result.
May Payne 3 upset me not because it deviated from the original, but because it presented us with its literally stinking corpse.
Anyway, I know it was a long rant, but hey I listened to all of yours! Hope I didn't strain your patience. S.
I'm ok with Max Payne shaving as a way to take control of his life, that's something that a lot of people do, and even i did at one point, but there's few things that ruin it.
First his disgusting beard. When he lost control of his life he let his beard grow, not his hair, so why did he shave his hair and kept the beard?
Second, he's adicted to pills and boose, so keeping the pills as the main way of recovering health is counter-intuitive.
Third, Max's attitude doesn't change a single bit after he quits the booze, the gameplay doesn't change in anyway, nor is he more competent in any way. So it feels like a farse.
They just wanted Kratos Payne. That's all i got.
I genuinely despise Rockstar Games too. Because their studio and their games are walking contradiction's, and filled to the brim with contrivances. For example: In open world games your suppose to have freedom to the fullest extent or a least the illusion of control, but in a mission if you try...even try to have fun at the expense of the game or not do what the developer wants you do, you fail. That's why I like systemic games (i.e. Dishonored, Thief, Deus Ex, Hitman, Prey, Vampire The Masquerade:Bloodlines, and The Shock series except Infinite) and I hate linearity(unless it's a corridor shooter or area shooter like DOOM or Wolfenstein). I like systemic games because they allow the player to do anything within the rules of the game world or within the main objective of said level, but most of them are still linear but you barely notice it...unlike Rockstar Games. In Conclusion: Rockstar Games is a overrated game company and the gameplay of their games are terrible, maybe instead of focusing on modeling horse balls retracting in cold weather they've should've learn how make a game which is fun and has competent shooting mechanics and also quick animations, so you don't feel like your walking on molasses(This rant was pointed specifically to RDR2, but you could find something that also criticizes Max Payne 3).
Ironically GTAV has the problem in its player emergence and agency due to the Mission Failed screen not allowing seamless control back into freemode. This appears to affect Online but to much less signifcant degree. Games are being designed by committee and not so much by individual playtesters with years of game design and analysis. Fuckin' shameful nowadays.
Max Payne was my childhood and one of my favorite games of all time. I loved this in-depth review and it sums up most of my feelings regarding Max Payne. Love your content man!
Wow! Disturbing and disgusting that Max Payne was part of your "childhood." It's not at all a game for children, at all, which leads me to believe that your parents didn't really give a damn about you and just let you do whatever you wanted so you wouldn't bother them. You'll be going through your own "payne" in the years to come thanks to them.
Big Jojo your comment is disturbing and disgusting. Shit up boomer.
@@jonah1976 and you think only adults played the gta series?
@@jonah1976 in the 90s and early 2000s all kids played all the playstation and Nintendo games good and bad. It was normal actually for kids to play violent and non violent games both.
@jonah1976 and you are ignorant to all hell and you know nothing, it's a parent's job to teach you right from wrong morals at the best they can from their own life's knowledge, and if they decide to let you play a video game that's full of violence then they trust you to do the right thing, and make the right judgment call at the end, I don't know what you're trying to say but you don't know anything and you already judged him as a criminal, before you even got to know him.
The first two games don't have some of the best stories in video games imo
The dialogue is very well written but the plot itself is not that great
According to me Max payne 3 is the perfect sequel ever made . You need a open mind and stop being sticky to the previous games the realism in the game was a fresh change for me in my opinion. Level Design and strict linearity could be a weak point but still i enjoyed every part of it. The grenades being missing and molotovs was a little disappointing though.
I found the shooting mechanics and ragdoll physics really satisfying in 3 but i 100% agree theres way too many unskipable cutscenes, after years of not playing it i tried it on pc, and i hate it now, i was just watching and waiting for the game to let me play again...i had more fun playing max payne 1 on my phone at work.
The unskippable cutscenes never was a problem to me because you can choose which checkpoint you want to play.
Also there is a mod on pc that skip cutscenes. The gameplay is so good in this game. please watch my latest Max Payne 3 gameplay vids on my channel!
It's supposed to be an evolution, not a pale imitation of it's predecessors. Max Payne 3 dealts with Max's past trauma, and how Max aged over the years,hence that would explain why he is slow and feels a bit draggy and heavy. While lots of your criticisms are valid, it isn't that bad or awful as you had said. Had it been another Max Payne 1 and 2 in terms of gameplay, game design and other aspects, people would just whine and complain to Rockstar for not making differences, innovations.
The golden guns have some more ammo and deal a bit more damage for if you don't get headshots. Basically, golden guns are better than normal guns for gameplay.
Which is a cliche for modern shooters
the fact that the game is a bit generic doesn't mean that it has a slow pace its just the way u play the game that makes it slow (and its obvious that u are doing it on purpose in the footage)
This video is a good demonstration why it's a bad idea to listen to players' opinions during developing a game
Exactly, that's why this 7th generation trend hopping meh game is nowhere near the level of the previous ones
Word
Wild, I just finished playing the franchise for the first time and I agree with everything. I don't understand why people say the gunplay is good, the movement sucks and aiming is terrible in a game hyper focused on precision. My first annoyance with the game was the opening when Max immediately started complaining about capitalism in typical R* fashion. I also pretty much called the story from the get go, except I thought it would be the dipshit brother who wanted more money, since he was untouched at both parties. I guess R* forgot about him.
I haven't even played the previous two yet I still agree😭
As huge of max Payne I was really disappointed myself the cover based shooting limits everything you can do in a game that is suppose to be run and gun game, but rock-star develop this game to be a prototype for GTA5
If you play this game like a cover shooter then you are dumb@ss, you can play this game like the original games, just don't use the cover system, max is more slow but you still can play it as a run and gun game, there is even a difficulty for players that want that playstyle.
You can play Max Payne 3 just like the old games and don't rely on taking covers, but it requires more skill.
You make some pretty good arguments against the game but It often felt like you could have gone a bit more in-depth, with the cutscenes for example, they are seizure-inducing, highlight the most random words and how half of the dialogues are not understandable, for a big part of players, because they are in a completely different language with no option to change it because of "immersion" but then again 1 hour is already pretty long for the average person to watch and your review already might be one of the most accurate reviews out there for this game.
Probably the most overrated game ever by Rockstar. No doubt. Just because they make good games doesn’t mean everything is a hit. That is the facts.
That spot takes GTA V tho
this reminds me when under the mayo reviewed Ultra kill
Except that review sucked and this one makes valid points
@@blooharrison8105 i dont feel like rewatching this to form an argument, so imma just leave a "you right" and move on lmao 👍
@@fobo3361 that's cool, agree to disagree
@@blooharrison8105 yeah not worth arguing over a game as old as max payne anyways, those who enjoy it enjoy it, those who dont, dont
Hey idk if you still care that much about this comment section, but what are your opinions on Remedy announcing that they're making a Remake for both Max Payne 1& 2? I think they have potential to grow and improve on the formula, but at the same time video game remakes aren't exactly known for being faithful or respectful to their source material.
Ok, I stopped about 15 minutes into this video. I can respect your opinions but your criticisms up until this point are just hating it for trying to be realistic and saying it's too hard (difficulty and controls wise). I've played this game on the hardest difficulty using my ps3. It's supposed to be hard especially with the limited amount of sensitivity a controller gives. You don't think I died many times? I got frustrated at bullshit too but I I understood it was hard. I didn't wine about my controls or it being to hard. I pushed forward knowing it would be a challenge. And the cover mechanic critique was a real nitpick. Yeah there's cover in a max Payne game but like I really used cover much. You can still run around and go guns blazing, hell it was faster or easier to go guns blazing in certain parts. And let's consider this from a point in real life considering the more realistic tone of the game. Would you find it safer to run out in the open with no body armor or stay behind cover and pick of enemies? And what's wrong with some slow time? Constant action would make the actually intense fights seem lame or added on. I agree with the weight however as certain parts seem slow and monotonous but I believe it shows Max's age. A middle age man who's an alcoholic and addicted to pills isn't going to have the stamina of a pro athlete or an athletein general. I get how you can't do crazy things with bullet time anymore, I thought those were pretty fun but you have to admit it's pretty stupid. No matter how many rounds you lay into someone with it's not going to send them flying into the air. You just have to sit down and realize that Max Payne 3 was trying to be something different by adding realism to it. What would be the point of making a third game with something we've already seen before in the 2 before it.
After playing the game in order on my steamdeck, the 2nd game where I enjoyed the most.
So for me, the 2nd one is the best among the trilogy.
1st and the 2nd game has the same feeling, and the 3rd one is just completely different feeling when I played the game.
"This isn't Metal Gear Solid, this is Max Payne!" At least MGS 4 is well written.
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Thanks
Yeah, it amazes me he hasn't got tons of subscribers!
The game is so unresponsive. Better animations are always nice but not at the expense of less control.
Also why does it take so long for Max to get up off the floor?
I think it killed me maybe once, so it's not like it makes the game harder or anything, if it only led to my death once.
So most of the time it's just clunky and annoying.
Also what is with all the stupid cutscenes. Just let me play the game.
If you keep holding down the movement keys when he lands, he'll get up quicker but if you don't and just land normally, he'll get up slower. Also, storywise it's supposed to show that Max has aged quite a bit and isn't in the same condition he was in the first two games plus it wasn't as big of a problem for me considering you're still able to shoot back at enemies while getting up so you wouldn't be too vulnerable while in combat.
I will say I do agree with the unresponsiveness that does unfortunately hurt the game at times, but at the end of the day I still have a ton of fun playing the game. Hopefully if Rockstar does ever remake MP3, they take notes and fix certain problems that plague the game both gameplay and storywise then it'd be perfect.
@@SlurpyPie I played it on the X360 and I was pushing the stick in all directions to get Max to move. Maybe it's different on PC. Either way we're talking about a guy who slows down time while shooting through the air, are you really bringing up his age to excuse clunky design.
@@robrick9361 Well I played it on PC and from what I've seen it works all you do is hold the movement keys or in your case the thumbstick in the direction you want after you shootdodge and then he gets up quicker, it's worked every time I've played. Also, if you read my comment, I was never using his age as an excuse for the game design but more commenting on that detail showing his physical state at this point in his life through gameplay that I found interesting that's all if that was the impression you got from my comment then I'm sorry for the confusion.
I did agree with you on how unresponsive it is due to the animation system they had which soured my experience as it did get in the way at times, but the gameplay isn't as bad as alot of people make it out to be. It's understandable if y'all don't like the game but despite the problems that unfortunately plague the game there's still tons to like it for from its brutal killcams, amazing sound design and even the gameplay itself *although I wish there was more areas you could fight enemies and less unskippable cutscenes.*
@@robrick9361play it on PC with mouse and keyboard you’ll change your opinion after that
1:06:26 when u are trying to prove a point or express an opinion its really not smart to show people who disagree as mindless tastless people u cro magnon
This game really spoke to me in one of the darkest times of my life, and Max, in a way, helped me overcome my personal problems at the time
Sooo fucking cringe 😂
Wym
@@Lightwolf9518 max payne 3 haters are weird, don't question it
God that is cringe
@@Whiteyy191And that's coming from a child behind a screen..
I hate when realism is used as a positive. I'm playing video games, I don't give a shit about realism. That's great that Max Payne is an alcoholic drug abuser and he's old, but that doesn't mean I wanna play as a shitty old man who can't do anything, because that's not fun
36:02 There's a slight humor in the fact that you say this because there's in fact a scene at the Jersey cemetery where the mob goon captures Pasos, sees you, and says "TH-THAT'S MAX PAYNE... Wait... you're Max Payne? I thought he (Pasos) was Max Payne!"
This was my first experience with a max Payne game, I liked it for what it was and the gun fights felt really cool. It does have problems and compared to the first 2 games I can see why people dont really like it. Love the content no life.
It's different than the previous MP games, but still a great game.
You really broke this game down on a microscopic level.
I would enjoy if you did a critique *Grand Theft Auto V* story. lol
Possible.
You know, with the exception of those fucking cutscenes.. I actually really enjoyed this, I got about halfway through GTA v and I haven't gotten back but ever since San Andreas that series had been downhill, four was just a series of fucking Nico whining like a little bitch, which okay are you please speaking Max is a whiny little bitch for all three games but in a cool way I'm not sure how that works but it does it matters.. possibly because he's a sympathetic character and nobody in any of the GTA since San Andreas has been?
@@jakedill1304 gta 4 had a good story just had nothing to do besides the story though. customisation was gutted from that game
@@Kinxzy. eh gta 4 was super fun because of the psychics
@@RobertEdwinHouse9 i liked gta 4 but the online and after story completed didnt have nearly as much as gta sa which is why sa is still played a lot more
I don’t agree with the points here but I appreciate and applaud how they were put. But one great thing about 3 sure is that this game have many places to praise or put blame from either side of spectrum.
I heard Max Payne 3 might have been made because Dan Houser is just that big of a fan and the IP is owned by R*. Here you say it might have started off as something else (…and my uneducated guess is that whatever it might have been was fit with Max Payne IP). The reason why Max Payne 3 had to be made as R* announced adamantly right after 2 is still never clear.
Nevertheless I still enjoyed the video.
21:35
did you just shot the guy on the left and the dude on the right moves 20 meters to the right ... in the slow motion?!
the head shot simulation
in max poayne 2 was known that it takes less than 2 seconds I guess. So after its over everyone in the room are still in the same positions !!!
wtf
i actually really like max payne 3, i think it's a fun shooter that rewards being aggressive with bullet time and diving everywhere like a madman. i thought it was meh when i first played it but on m&kb it plays amazing.
i think the story's a mess though lol, it's got a ridiculous amount of plotholes and i didn't personally care about it because it doesn't even feel like the writers did particularly. i found a lot of max's dialogue pretty entertaining, rockstar are always pretty good at making funny dialogue. 'i have a hole in my second favourite drinking arm' was pretty great
ive not actually played the first two games either, the first atleast has aged pretty poorly gameplay wise so finding it hard to get into. everyone has the same death sound minus a few exceptions so it feels goofy more than anything. sure they were groundbreaking when they came out but nowadays, meh
either way i really enjoyed this video despite having a pretty different opinion, especially in terms of gameplay. i think the game's really fun and incentivizes the dive and bullet time mechanics to their fullest, with taking cover being a nice option for people who are really struggling with it. great video still! hopefully your channel takes off because this was a really good watch
max payne 1 and 2 you were presented a level and go through it at your own pace. its linear but theres some semblance of level design instead of a straight up hallway with enemies charging at you with cut scenes interrupting the gameplay every 2 minutes. hopefully remedy makes max payne 4
One of the worst reviews i've seen in youtube lmao
Cause you didnt watch it loser
@@perseastheodoropoulos7367 i've watched this thing entirely, i've spent 1 hour of my life watching a guy getting mad for an objectivly good game.
@@lautarocardozo5214 firstly liking your own comment is ridiculous. Secondly if you watched tell me an argument you can contradict then
@@lautarocardozo5214 thats from someone who told gow4 is the best in the series
@@snake7602 oh wow, nice alt account lmao what a loser.
No headshots r very effective later on when u face ufe.U can kill them by a few high caliber hits in the legs way easier than by aiming heads often cuz of the helmets.With dual bull it's basicly unimportant where u hit after all.It doesn't need much more than two hits usually.The existence of a cover mechanic doesn't force u to use it allways.Wich getting beaten to death outta nowhere online,teaches pretty quick ;)
I 1000% disagree with you but i respect your opinion. Imo the game is still has one of the best 3rd person shooting mechanics till date, games like GTA 5 and RDR2 clearly were inspired by the game's mechanics.
max payne 3 is a masterpiece! HOW DARE you say anything bad about it!? I mean... Look at all the great things this game has to offer! Like.... uh.......
guns..... and.......
nvm
I mean it also has really satisfying shooting, smooth animations, a fairly interesting story with pretty damn good writing and a great main character, an amazing soundtrack and graphics that have aged surprisingly well. But whatever, you do you.
@@SF-ow9ym Story was a complete joke and they ruined Paynes character to cash in using their GTA engine. The shooting is fun but that's it. 1-2 the shooting is fun and the story has purpose unlike 3, and even the writing is better. Max Payne's riding in 3 was pure drivel. Never thought I would want the character to shut up after playing 3. Max Payne 3 is trash for that reason, ruining it's own main character.
@@SF-ow9ym 'pretty damn good writing'?
The story feels like your run of the mill generic action movie with stupid dialogue.
Max Payne doesn't even behave like himself.
Most importantly they ruined noir and storytelling aspects.
@@EarFarce4 Well its subjective, don't be so mad wtf
The good thing about this game is the shooting and kill cams, the bad thing however are way more noticeable as you keep playing. The thing about too many cons, or big enough cons is that they can outweigh or over shine other the good things about this game. It’s not a bad game, but still frustrating. I understand why it’s loved, but I don’t understand anyone who will claim that the game is perfect with no flaws and attack anyone who is criticizing the game.
This guy really waved off "The Girl", the creepy track that plays through the docks level, as "generic and boring"? At least you fit your name.
just to let you know, the max payne 3 comics were done months after the game had already launched lol
The narrative of this game is a mess, and i find all the graohical effects during cutscenes to be distracting and overused. They remind of the film Domino.
Thank you. You just told us the whole story of max payne and compared the games in detail
Great video - it's rare I watch long ones but this I viewed from start to finish! Completely agree with everything said too - this game is a huge departure from the iconic originals. It's trying too hard to be stylish and ends up being a visual mess of effects and insufferable dialogue. The persistent interruptions of headache-inducing cutscenes infuriate and I hate how much Rockstar DNA has wormed itself into this game despite being a fan of their other work. Twitchy controls, dumbed-down gameplay and a total loss of identity ruins it. I tolerated it a decade ago but after trying to replay it again, it's left a very bad taste. Remedy need to buy that IP back!
The game is kinda fun, but the story and some of max's actions are unexplainable, like the scene in the airport where he sneaks untill he finds becker and then he just walks into the enemy and everyone just watches him until he takes cover😅 or the fact that after the favela mission he says its best to hide among the crowd and then just walks in a spot he can get ambushed, these are tiny little things but they really do make game look rubbish in my view
I agree with the overall verdict - Max Payne 3 isn't really a Max Payne game, it's another one of Rockstar's delusions about what a video-game should be.
I wouldn't say it is a bad game on its own, if the name of Max Payne was scraped from it entirely - it would've still be a decent game with flaws, but what makes it agonizing is the potential of what a modernized continuation of Max Payne 3 COULD be. Control performs in that regard much, much better without actually sharing the tone, name or setting of Max Payne. Control is a more faithful game to Max Payne than Max Payne 3, what a joke.
I do disagree with you on several minor, more precise points, or rather... I think your angle is a bit wrong. When you ask 'Why would you remove the jump button' or 'Why would you make bullet jump physically interact with obstacles' you miss the point. Rockstar had an entirely different philosophy going into this project, that same philosophy plagues their games to this day and I believe it holds them back.
It's realism, my man. It's all about 'ooo, let's make it look REAL, lets make it REALISTIC'. Realistic physics, realistic animations, realistic player speed, realistic weapons. When you shoot from the cover without peeking - you can still get shot because your hands physically catch bullets. Why would it work that way? Why would I blind-fire from cover if I am still vulnerable? It makes 0 sense from a game design view point, oh but it makes perfect sense from a 'LETS MAKE IT LIKE ITS REAL' view point. They did not add a jump button because jumping in the middle of the room for no reason is NOT REALISTIC, in real life you jump only when trying to cross a gap or climb over something.
When you comb through the game and really scrutinize every detail like that - it becomes clear that they didn't really want to make a video game, it was more of a... interactive simulated movie, a showcase of physics+animations engine they were very proud of. Everything except the technical aspects and realism took a nosedive in comparison with previous games, the tone, the flow of combat, the writing, the setting. It doesn't make sense to make a game with completely different strengths and completely new glaring weaknesses, but it does if you don't really give a shit about the 'source material' and are just using the name to sell whatever you yourself want to make.
Max Payne 3 is the best 3rd person shooter of all time. the gunplay is unmatched to this day.
@@user-xf5ej5od8f Max Payne 3 is not the best 3rd person shooter of all time. It is a closed room headshot simulator. If they restricted player control even a tiny bit more it would have become a rail shooter.
@@KronugiN I don't know how they restricted the player's control. The game has the same gameplay structure of all the others Max Payne games. Try lowering the difficulty and maybe you would enjoy it more and wouldn't find it a railway shooter.
Actually it depends on the person who plays the game and how they interact with its mechanics. I didn't find the game restrictive at all. From my experience Max Payne 3 has more fluid gameplay and Movements than any 3rd person shooter game I've ever played and I almost played all the best 3rd person shooters.
Did you play the game on PC or a console?
3 has to be my favourite in the entire series. I remember playing this game while I was doing badly in school. While I was no alcholic, and I am still not one, this game taught me to let go and try again.
Max payne 3 sucks really bad if you trying to play it "realistically". Sometimes you get hit by bullet but there is no damage like wtf? You often get control over Max when he gets to some ridiculous spot. As you mentioned, you can shoot to point while being unreachable for enemy. Enemies always know exactly where you are, but that's not how it works in reality, because you have to always look out to know where exactly people are, but they stand in cover, sometimes not even looking out at all, and they react to you like they know your exact spot like wall hack. Because of that, it's realy annoying when you move around levels. Sometimes enemies come at you out of nowhere, again, with knowledge of your exact spot. "Bosses" are also seem very cheap. These slow mo moments (like on hook) are also cr.ap, because you are very easy to get shot like that. Helmets also have cheap mechanics. And why Max refuses to wear armor and helmet?
Watch my Gameplay on my channel on hard difficulty
Skill issue.
Max Payne 3 isn't a bad game by any means it's just different than the previous ones. Do you want to play the same game over and over again? Play Assassin's creed games or something like that!
Just played for the first time. Lack of melee was a switch and the inability to carry and swap multiple weapons took adjusting. Still a fine game with remarkable moments. No disappointment for me. I think 2 is still my personal favorite.
You can tell this game is hot trash after 5 minutes of playing it. Anyone who thinks differently clearly never played Payne 1 or 2.
Facts 😂
So basically Max Payne 1 and 2 is Dirty Harry and Max Payne 3 is Sudden Impact. Understood.
Well said - I tried to get through the early chapters but found it just repetitive while completely lacking in storytelling that has ANY connection to the previous games or even to the wry noir ambience and tone that they had. I hated the faux cinematic effects, especially that glitchiness and the double images - did Rockstar think that we had to see the world through the eyes of an alcholic painkiller addict in order to get really immersive in the game? That was an idiotic idea, which apparently NO-ONE in the Rockstar hierarchy had the cojones to point out.
So anyway, thanks for putting out on video just what I was thinking, and a whole lot more besides. Cheers, fellah.
I still don't know why Max Payne 2 isn't remastered on ps4