"You remember that Green light that you kept begging Chibs for? Wow! What a shit storm that turned into!" said one of the Men of Mayhem.......just before he choked him in that hospital room
Funny because Terry got his wish for war, they killed Coco and countless others Then he gets shot, Doc is killed, his charter gets steamrolled AT the SanDino clubhouse! Only to be wake up and almost choked to death by Tigg 😂 followed by the Cherry on top bombshell that ISSAC the Pyromaniac from Meth Mountain is back in. Careful for what you wish for
@@filthydangles535 - Jax murdered a lotta people.....and he murdered his own Mother....and he abandoned his kids .......and he committed suicide! Jax is in Hell along with Clay Morrow.
After watching Mayans MC, I think what separates SOA is how close they are to their community and Law Enforcement. People don’t mind their presence because they aren’t destroying their community with drugs (against it for the most part) and they are still able keep the peace within their communities despite them being in charge of the gun trade. SOA also has tight connections with their local police force for the same reasons stated. On the other hand, you rarely see Mayans communicating with their community. Mayans also destroy their community with the drug trade and every other episode there’s violence within their turf. I get that directors aren’t adding those interactions to their plot but even the slightest interactions tell you a lot about them. Remember when those white guys were shitting on EZs girl ? Normal people wouldn’t even think about that on SOA turf even if they were racist. I think if you took out plot armor, SOA would’ve easily buried the Mayans if they went to a war now.
You’re forgetting that the Mayans have cartel connections. I don’t think SOA would have easily buried the Mayans. Mayans would have significant firepower
@@sirhoudini6430 I think thats one major thing seperating the clubs. Even though SOA has ties out of country to larger orginizations, They are still stuck on the border of a very deadly allience
The Sons might have had superior numbers, but they're still a gang. And gangs can't let wores go on too long, or get too loud, lest law enforcement get involved on both sides. So the Mayans were certainly at a disadvantage, but hardly a divisive one.
@@jamestyson458 lol can’t have them cool acronyms for each charter I guess. SAMCRO, SAMBELL, I do like Rogue River though, but really the best we got for this SOA chapter is just San Bernardino? SAMBERDOO LOL SAMBERN is at least slightly passable. Writers had a missed opportunity
My issue with Elgin James’ version of S.O.A. is they constantly highlight members that had very little to do with the story in the original series. Chibs would have NEVER green-lit a war with the Mayans over Montez who was a later addition to the club. Also, they found his kutte in a barrel, that doesn’t mean shit other than that. Also, why is it the VP pushing for a war over his President? #Mayans
Yea I hear but Montez was still a brother and Chibs probably got close too him and became his road captain so I think chibs will be pissed and the cut was found in the barrel on a Mayans clubhouse too me that would be crazy cause we s suppose too have peace and I would take it as the Mayans killed him because he was found there and plus it’s not like palo gonna come back and tell the sons that’s it was he that killed Montez and the reason for the vp pushing for it is because he was close with Montez and it was still a brother
Bro, I love the Redwood Original, but don’t be so narrow. It gets boring focusing on the same club, same group time and time again. Don’t you wanna see more? The SAMBELL charter, Rogue River, Salt Lake, SAMDINO, and chibs would never agree to green light a war? Bro he sides With Jax in almost every conflict he began, is it so hard to believe that he would green light a war after first working hard for two years to hand away the gun business only to lose it? Then losing the Road Captain of his charter and his kutte and body being found ON Mayan property? Think outside the tv box my bro, look at the wider world out of Charming, I want to see a bigger Mayan world, we’ve seen Yuma, Oakland, Stockton, I also wanna see less charming and more SOA territories.
@Phoenixalldayy and it died hard for him. He’s doing his best to avoid a war, that’s not weakness. That’s him knowing what war entails, they fought a war before the start of SOA, snd fought periodic conflicts against the SOA snd other groups. It’s not hard to believe that’s he’s completely desensitized and war weary
I think San Bernardino is the most dangerous soa charter or big also probably because of Isaac, Mayans from santo padre probably had a long bad war with soa from San Bernardino years before they was before they was cool then beef again
after SP’s disrespect going back on their word on not retaliating and whipping out a whole biker gang and fucking with the pipeline, he wanted nothing to do with negotiating with the Mayans. Don’t forget, it’s the new era .. these boys are hungry for war, shoot first talk after.
I think deep down the main reason why terry wanted the war was so in case they did win and doc some how dies he gets the president's seat of samdino and on top of that he gets the respect and looks like the hero but it backfired because he forgot about packers little brother(isaac) not being out bad who to happened hop across him and get the seat
Fascinating that Terry got the war her wanted, and regretted it to the point of betraying his own MC. Honestly, I love that arc... Doc didn't want the war, SAMDINO didn't want it, SAMCRO didn't want it. Only Terry and with the evidence he presented, got it. He couldn't have predicted Issac returning and tainting the minds of his brothers, and it definitely was not want Terry thought it would be.
They were going to war with a club they’ve had peace with for years now. They also needed permission from the mother charter in order to go to war. War means losing a lot of members too.
Samcro is the head charter of all SOA so u believe when it comes down to going to war with they ally (Mayans) another charter would have to ask for permission because they don’t know what business is being done or what agreement samcro got with the Mayans at the moment.
@@OMSbets412 thanks for explaining. It’s hard for me to understand the show sometimes haha that’s why I’m rewatching everything. Can’t wait for season 5
Don't remember what happen To willy dannyboy or emment after I left I was 18an a runawey Yeah they came lookin Quite a few did All I know they said it was a bad drug deal I know better was over me He was a is even in death very beautiful soul Jax you remind me of him Only seen Daniel once in 2015 Rest tell me I'm not there sister an have nothin to do with them No ain't no feelins in any a that Those been gone
I can tell each series just by the colour and yes I am a sad case and believe it is all real this and sons, I was even gonna go and put flowers on all the dead brothers graves, as I know most of them are busy shooting people ect, and wouldn't always get the chance to go themselves, the best part I don't live in America.
Crazy how chips approves the war and we never even see him. They build up tibs in s4 and we don’t even see him in s5. Missed opportunity to bring the og Samcro members
"You remember that Green light that you kept begging Chibs for? Wow! What a shit storm that turned into!" said one of the Men of Mayhem.......just before he choked him in that hospital room
ahahaahaha fkn Tig never disappoints i swear. So glad he made a cameo
That scene was funny as fuck
Tig new what was coming terry didn’t even doc didn’t wanna go to war
Funny because Terry got his wish for war, they killed Coco and countless others Then he gets shot, Doc is killed, his charter gets steamrolled AT the SanDino clubhouse! Only to be wake up and almost choked to death by Tigg 😂 followed by the Cherry on top bombshell that ISSAC the Pyromaniac from Meth Mountain is back in. Careful for what you wish for
@@kciN1221 yeah. r.i.p. doc.
Jax would be so hurt if he knew the club was back into war
Jax is in Hell......his concerns for the world of the living is beyond his concern.
@mr.black goh with that
@@2025-e4n facts
@@2025-e4n jax loved war even against the screws
@@filthydangles535 - Jax murdered a lotta people.....and he murdered his own Mother....and he abandoned his kids .......and he committed suicide! Jax is in Hell along with Clay Morrow.
"You got your war"... you can tell in his voice that he didn't want this... even Chibs prolly didn't want this, but decided to go thru with it anyways
Terry the VP would probably be the main bad guy of season 4
Well that one died and Terry’s at the hospital
Well he’s dead now💔
@@shivanebangkok2008 -Everybody on the show are bad guys...
@@2025-e4n with the exception of Alvarez
Doc wanted peace and died, terry wanted war and lived…
Yea that pissed me off doc look like a cool guy & terry doesn’t know what he’s getting himself into
Maybe Terry will die on tonight's episode
Ez and bishop wanted the same with Isaac
After watching Mayans MC, I think what separates SOA is how close they are to their community and Law Enforcement. People don’t mind their presence because they aren’t destroying their community with drugs (against it for the most part) and they are still able keep the peace within their communities despite them being in charge of the gun trade. SOA also has tight connections with their local police force for the same reasons stated. On the other hand, you rarely see Mayans communicating with their community. Mayans also destroy their community with the drug trade and every other episode there’s violence within their turf. I get that directors aren’t adding those interactions to their plot but even the slightest interactions tell you a lot about them. Remember when those white guys were shitting on EZs girl ? Normal people wouldn’t even think about that on SOA turf even if they were racist. I think if you took out plot armor, SOA would’ve easily buried the Mayans if they went to a war now.
You’re forgetting that the Mayans have cartel connections. I don’t think SOA would have easily buried the Mayans. Mayans would have significant firepower
@@sirhoudini6430 I think thats one major thing seperating the clubs. Even though SOA has ties out of country to larger orginizations, They are still stuck on the border of a very deadly allience
The Sons might have had superior numbers, but they're still a gang. And gangs can't let wores go on too long, or get too loud, lest law enforcement get involved on both sides.
So the Mayans were certainly at a disadvantage, but hardly a divisive one.
Give this a year, and nobody will remember this show. Wasted potential.
@@NobleRenegade7 I dunno, this show is hard to forget.
In a crappy way, but still.
SAMCRO gave San Bernardino the green light to unleash hell on the Mayans.
SAMBERN? 😂
@@thedirector9580 yea, let's go with that
@@jamestyson458 lol can’t have them cool acronyms for each charter I guess. SAMCRO, SAMBELL, I do like Rogue River though, but really the best we got for this SOA chapter is just San Bernardino?
SAMBERDOO LOL
SAMBERN is at least slightly passable.
Writers had a missed opportunity
SAMDINO I think is the official, my bad
@@thedirector9580 ahahahaha
My issue with Elgin James’ version of S.O.A. is they constantly highlight members that had very little to do with the story in the original series. Chibs would have NEVER green-lit a war with the Mayans over Montez who was a later addition to the club. Also, they found his kutte in a barrel, that doesn’t mean shit other than that. Also, why is it the VP pushing for a war over his President? #Mayans
Yea I hear but Montez was still a brother and Chibs probably got close too him and became his road captain so I think chibs will be pissed and the cut was found in the barrel on a Mayans clubhouse too me that would be crazy cause we s suppose too have peace and I would take it as the Mayans killed him because he was found there and plus it’s not like palo gonna come back and tell the sons that’s it was he that killed Montez and the reason for the vp pushing for it is because he was close with Montez and it was still a brother
Packer being on chemotherapy, and Happy running SAMDINO for a bit makes sense that this VP is pushing the issue on the new president
Bro, I love the Redwood Original, but don’t be so narrow. It gets boring focusing on the same club, same group time and time again.
Don’t you wanna see more? The SAMBELL charter, Rogue River, Salt Lake, SAMDINO, and chibs would never agree to green light a war? Bro he sides With Jax in almost every conflict he began, is it so hard to believe that he would green light a war after first working hard for two years to hand away the gun business only to lose it? Then losing the Road Captain of his charter and his kutte and body being found ON Mayan property?
Think outside the tv box my bro, look at the wider world out of Charming, I want to see a bigger Mayan world, we’ve seen Yuma, Oakland, Stockton, I also wanna see less charming and more SOA territories.
@Phoenixalldayy time changes everyone
@Phoenixalldayy and it died hard for him. He’s doing his best to avoid a war, that’s not weakness. That’s him knowing what war entails, they fought a war before the start of SOA, snd fought periodic conflicts against the SOA snd other groups. It’s not hard to believe that’s he’s completely desensitized and war weary
“were going to war” awwwl shit here we go again
yuuuuuuup
#TeamSamcro
Can't wait to see Tig again.
seeing Tig was a breath of fresh SOA air and I loved every second of him being on screen as Tig again.
I think San Bernardino is the most dangerous soa charter or big also probably because of Isaac, Mayans from santo padre probably had a long bad war with soa from San Bernardino years before they was before they was cool then beef again
Chibs would have met with the Mayans before going to war.
Facts!!! I don't like the Mayans' version of SOA.
after SP’s disrespect going back on their word on not retaliating and whipping out a whole biker gang and fucking with the pipeline, he wanted nothing to do with negotiating with the Mayans. Don’t forget, it’s the new era .. these boys are hungry for war, shoot first talk after.
@@wlly881 - Sons of Anarchy and Mayans MC are both products of Kurt Sutter. (so, this is not a different version)
@@2025-e4n kurt sutter version ends at s2
I think deep down the main reason why terry wanted the war was so in case they did win and doc some how dies he gets the president's seat of samdino and on top of that he gets the respect and looks like the hero but it backfired because he forgot about packers little brother(isaac) not being out bad who to happened hop across him and get the seat
One of the best scenes of the series
Fascinating that Terry got the war her wanted, and regretted it to the point of betraying his own MC. Honestly, I love that arc... Doc didn't want the war, SAMDINO didn't want it, SAMCRO didn't want it. Only Terry and with the evidence he presented, got it. He couldn't have predicted Issac returning and tainting the minds of his brothers, and it definitely was not want Terry thought it would be.
Is that Clay's old El Camino?
This my favorite clip
I miss Doc
under used for sure...
He should have more screen time
Uh oh here we go again folks
this conversation doesn't take place at church or club table?
Terry is such a 🐱
Who’s side are you on? SOA or Mayans?
SOA
Mayans
SOA
MAYANS Viva Coco
With my boy jaxson teller SOA
Why did They have to ask chibs for the green light? Isn’t it a charter decision??
They were going to war with a club they’ve had peace with for years now. They also needed permission from the mother charter in order to go to war. War means losing a lot of members too.
@@sirhoudini6430 ahhh makes sense
Samcro is the head charter of all SOA so u believe when it comes down to going to war with they ally (Mayans) another charter would have to ask for permission because they don’t know what business is being done or what agreement samcro got with the Mayans at the moment.
@@OMSbets412 thanks for explaining. It’s hard for me to understand the show sometimes haha that’s why I’m rewatching everything. Can’t wait for season 5
@@elijahalesana8150 np I'm actually just getting done watching season 4. Imma rewatch the series once it's finished. Not nearly as good as SOA was imo
What consequence is that?
“You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet”
It’s pretty screwed up the mayans killed a sons
Which version of the song is that
So epic 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Lol at the bar when dude ssid are you going to blame that on the Mayans too before that girl brought in the jacket of Montez
I hate how they killed the RECOVERING drug addict/… they shouldn’t have done that. #wedorecover
He says Spicks but isn’t Montez Mexican? Flaw there!!
Don't remember what happen
To willy dannyboy or emment
after I left I was 18an a runawey
Yeah they came lookin
Quite a few did
All I know they said it was a bad drug deal
I know better was over me
He was a is even in death very beautiful soul
Jax you remind me of him
Only seen Daniel once in 2015
Rest tell me I'm not there sister an have nothin to do with them
No ain't no feelins in any a that
Those been gone
but bro ez has the same mentslity as terry
Terry is soft
I can tell each series just by the colour and yes I am a sad case and believe it is all real this and sons, I was even gonna go and put flowers on all the dead brothers graves, as I know most of them are busy shooting people ect, and wouldn't always get the chance to go themselves, the best part I don't live in America.
Then this coward went and betrayed his own club
I hope SoA gets mopped
Pretty sure SOA has more charters.....and friends
well the soa samdino charter just got wiped off the map tonight 💯
@@ainzstainton9766 nope...soa more stronger then the mayan
@@mibchannel8385 man eze might of bit off more then he could chew
@@ainzstainton9766 agreed, I don't like they're taking his character because now I know he has to die in order for this show to end.
Wipeout the Mayans
Tez whas wearing the wrong Patch the whole time should been a Mayan
Crazy how chips approves the war and we never even see him. They build up tibs in s4 and we don’t even see him in s5. Missed opportunity to bring the og Samcro members
His actor Tommy Flanagan made it clear he was done with Mayans.
@@khalilsmith6812 damn that just sucks