Unpacking the Role JD Vance Played on That Debate Stage

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  • @Fjaloeat1
    @Fjaloeat1 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    NYT needs to offer more than sanewashing.

  • @theobnoxiousotter5554
    @theobnoxiousotter5554 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I ain't paying for anything 😂 cut it out or I'm getting an ad blocker

  • @Mor_timer
    @Mor_timer วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I'm a genuine fan of matter of opinion, but paywalling "special content" from matter of opinion is lowkey comical. what could you possibly be talking about??

  • @sed2526
    @sed2526 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Soooo, if you lie and lie and lie, so long as it's "polished", you win the debate? BS.

  • @Larry-perkins
    @Larry-perkins วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Vance put on a front, as he always does. This time he was instructed to be affable and polite, counter the angry woman hating front he's shown the last few months

  • @hectorestrada3764
    @hectorestrada3764 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I have to say that I do appreciate both sides, putting a more realistic spin on how both sides view the VP debate. I watched it, and if you were looking for who seemed completely controlled and cool under pressure that would’ve been JD Vance I do see where Tim Walz had a tough time admitting that he lied or he missed spoke. I would still take Tim walls over JD Vance by a longshot.. I do believe that JD Vance used this opportunity to make himself look much more empathetic and human. Then the popular media gives him credit for if it raises his liability that’s fine if Tim took a cut or raised his liability that’s fine too. As lifelong Republican up to the point where Donald Trump turned the party into a cult I can deal with the Tim Walz. I can deal with Kamala Harris. I have found that the more I analyze what we have seen in our political institutions since the rise of Trump, I am starting to recognize that we should have an amendment in the constitution that states you should not be allowed to run for public office unless you served in some type of job that is accountable to the American people and civil budgets like teachers like police officers fireman, or any other type of civil service or military service and the reason I say this is because very simple way to look at it and I believe the entire platform for Donald Trump and those who support him although they may not acknowledge it really boils down because it’s easier to destroy things than build things or fix things we would rather do that.

    • @kahlilbt
      @kahlilbt วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think there was definitely a contrast in hiw Walz (sheepishly, hesitantly) admitted he misspoke versus how Vance smoothly and forcefully avoided admitting Trump lost. It made me wonder, will America prefer a smooth criminal or an admitted but accountable truth-stretcher. I prefer Walz as well.
      Nice comment 👍🏽

    • @monicabeaston4996
      @monicabeaston4996 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for being a patriot.

  • @charlesashurst1816
    @charlesashurst1816 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    The debate was a bit of a yawn, but we learned 1. JD Vance thinks climate science is “weird science”, which in 2024 is pretty weird. 2. JD Vance wouldn’t have done what Vice President Pence did in disobeying Donald Trump’s command to refuse to certify an election. In other words, JD Vance is not qualified to be a Vice President of the United States of America.

  • @keff5984
    @keff5984 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Only Spotify or Apple music??? The fuck

  • @qamn23
    @qamn23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Vance lied as he breathed, moops!

  • @trails3597
    @trails3597 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Vance is a career politician who serves his master well and Waltz is a governor who serves the interests of his constituents well.

  • @SuperSkink08
    @SuperSkink08 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ross needs to understand that Vance and his political movement is completely disconnected from the wider reality of the US population.

  • @Martcapt
    @Martcapt วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My self care is not paying for a podcast

  • @Anaguma79
    @Anaguma79 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I should know better than to press play on anything involving Ross Douthat...

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ross you Love JD, admit it…

  • @BrianTroup-d9t
    @BrianTroup-d9t วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    JDV is going to do battle for only one person. So please stop kidding anyone.

  • @pasowen
    @pasowen วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every time Ross tries to make a point I think “I seriously Douthat.”

  • @jerryfugate
    @jerryfugate วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Vance proved that he's a very adroit liar and can put up whatever facade he chooses for a given event. Which probably makes him as dangerous as Trump if he should wind up in the oval office some day.

  • @BrianTroup-d9t
    @BrianTroup-d9t วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is it possible to mute Ross's mic?

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River วันที่ผ่านมา

    But at the very last final question and answer, a dagger was successfully pushed in aJD’s heart

  • @Wray62
    @Wray62 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Who is the person who said Tim Walz “had the politics of Bernie Sanders”??? That’s a really dumb take.

    • @evanhruskar
      @evanhruskar วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ross Douthat, the conservative member of the group

    • @Wray62
      @Wray62 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@evanhruskar thanks!

  • @TheDilettante
    @TheDilettante วันที่ผ่านมา

    So I think Vance's housing argument applies to relatively small cases like Springfield, where a sizable fraction of the population was increased all at once. However, that does not mean, writ large, that immigration is the core reason housing prices have gone up (it isn't) or that any other kind of fast population increase (including domestic immigration) to a small area wouldn't have the same effect. As much as I love Ross, I think it's a little disingenuous to lend credence to this kind of onion argument whose core is racism.

  • @Mortyst
    @Mortyst วันที่ผ่านมา

    Actual content starts at 3:50

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gets a pretty strong say……? Come on Ross, the partner to Trump …is not going very far, except in your imagination 😊😊

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ross, keep it up, Ross you are getting heated, and you’re going go down…..

  • @simonthebear
    @simonthebear วันที่ผ่านมา

    So Ross thinks it’s winning when you demonstrate how slick you are at lying and deflecting? Sorry , but I have a different standard for success.

  • @mollypenwhistle2274
    @mollypenwhistle2274 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vance seemed like the ‘presidential candidate’ with Trump as his washed up running mate…

  • @evelynnapier8994
    @evelynnapier8994 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope you are correct that the democrats are moving away from the far left. Agee with Michelle that the left overstepped.

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ross, come on ……are you trying to shift Carlos point.

  • @BrianTroup-d9t
    @BrianTroup-d9t วันที่ผ่านมา

    JDV was a very strong liarer

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stuck defending…..isn’t that a bit condescending? Ross?

  • @Martcapt
    @Martcapt วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are out of your mind if you think I'll pay

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m a big addicted fan, but…….😊😊😅

  • @RiK0449
    @RiK0449 วันที่ผ่านมา

    M.O.O. Listeners = M.O.O.’ers

  • @alexerb803
    @alexerb803 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Talk about pompousness

  • @richardbocanegra5945
    @richardbocanegra5945 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jew-ville.. no thanks, i despise Seinfeld

  • @thespeakupshowwithmr.j655
    @thespeakupshowwithmr.j655 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    NYT: Can you guys talk about a third party green party option? these two suck.

    • @lorennerhus3611
      @lorennerhus3611 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Green Party isn’t a real option. Polling at less than 1%

  • @WattersWaveYo
    @WattersWaveYo วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pass. We got up watch Tim Walz repeat the same lazy talking points on Israel 🇮🇱. Stop the genocide Vote Jill Stein 2024

    • @GFMkidsComedy
      @GFMkidsComedy วันที่ผ่านมา

      Israel baby 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

  • @RachelTension392
    @RachelTension392 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ross has an impossible job. Ross, if you see this, please reach out to Jessica Tarlov and create a podcast cuz you two are essentially opposite versions of each other on opposing, politically-biased news platforms. These knuckleheads don’t even get your frequent Simpsons references.

    • @SuperSkink08
      @SuperSkink08 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ross wrote an article that Vance won the VP debate a week before the debate happened. He has been a Trump/Vance patsy the entire time. He needs to get his brain checked and talk to people not related to Rogan and Andrew Tate.