I wish Patty was my best friend. She has depth and emotion. She also is a champion for mental health well being. This gal is the real deal. God bless her where ever she may be. AMEN
Reading some of the comments has made me want to contribute here as well. Lots of people are annoyed and outraged at the outdated ideas about weight, but as someone who grew up during the 70s, I can attest that IT WAS THIS WAY. People were OBSESSED with dieting and it became a big business. It's also a time when eating disorders first became known to the general public. Also, a few things about this movie..it is NOT a Lifetime or cable movie. This was shown on actual network TV, on ABC. I remember watching it first run and enjoying it very much. I loved Patty Duke's defiance against the shallow people around her, her sarcasm and humor. She lost weight for herself and learned about herself in the process. Conchatta Farrell was fantastic. The movie is really satire, a black comedy and a huge jab at the ridiculous obsession with weight and the shame people put on you.
I'm a healthy 67 year old woman. I remember the 70's well, that was only a few years after "Twiggy" the model from Great Britain. I never thought even back then that she looked healthy. No young person. male or female should be ridiculed for their weight, teeth, glasses, pimples etc by so called "adults." Back then, adults said whatever the hell they wanted, no matter how hurtful. I don't hear crap like that much anymore, and when I do, I will call that person out, with no mercy! I will NOT stand by and listen to garbage like that.
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I wonder where some men bought their "magic mirror" ya know, the one that reflects a handsome, in shape man, the direct opposite of the way they look! I've been on some dating sites, and I've come across quite a few profiles where there's an out of shape man, with the bushy un-kempt beard that states how he wants a woman "that's in shape!" To be fair, there's probably some women that do the same.
@@mumvictoria2757 That's what a mean, nasty, controling, weak little man-child does. Boys learn very young that a girls worth is measured by her "looks." That's the first thing some "men" do is to tear down a wife, girlfriend by her "looks." Pay attention at the next family gathering, and listen to the way little girls are spoken to compared to boys. No one ever says to boys, "oh, you're so beautiful." I put a stop to that CRAP in my family!
She was getting close that age where hormonal changes start. Having kids does a number on our body, we hit mid 30s and begin to fight weight, then add the day in and day out of a busy life. Men will never get it. Women need to learn to be healthy and happy and let men do what they do.
If a man leaves you because you gained weight then wants you back when you lose the weight, what’s to say you won’t gain it back and he will dump you again? Lots of people yo yo. I’d never take someone like that back. I’m glad she didn’t in the movie.
I went through a period of post high school, lots of things to contend with, including a chronically ill Mother who needed me, family issues, and not knowing who or what I wanted to be. I became anorexic, lost my periods, and basically almost wrecked my own health. It took about 3 years, and my own strength of will, to overcome it. It was long before anorexia became a household word. Karen Carpenter's death was the real catalyst I needed to make me realize.
Sorry to hear you had Anorexia but so very glad that you overcame it!!! I was Anorexic also but even though I heard about Karen Carpenter it took me years to overcome that and bulemia. Such a double standard in our society.
I was that Iowa Farm Wife that was forced to make a sweet everyday. My husband told me I had to learn to make pie like his mom,so I had to go to her farm house and watch how she did it. l could never mK a perfect pie ,inorder to make him happy and he d be sweet to me. I saw my daughter become obese then when she turned 15 she told me she hated herself.I one day saw he losing weight as I weighed 120#s at 5'6"" tall. She wanted to be like me.Id make pie ,but didn t eat it. I found her losing and then when she turned 16,she was voted onto the cheerleading squad. She teamed with gals and was very happy with her appearance. She was happy and worked as an assistant store manager in Family Foods Grocery Store.She worked for her own new skinny clothes and bought her own new car. She was so sure of herself,but soon I saw a very frail daughter,say I asked her about losing too much weight. Her dad was heavy set on the farm . I couldn t under stand how he lost so much weight in a short amount of time. She wasn t eating and just working.To make a long story short,she d been throwing up het food and like a movie she saw was storing her puke in her clasey in jars. She s 53 years old and realized what I talked to her about.My conversation went sour until she saw how I kept weight off. I eat one small dessert and can quit. She saw her siblings gain and be obese. I climbed all over my three sons of whom the youngest is 47;years old and was Always trim,for my kids were athletes like me and not like their dad. I saw they d pick thin girls to be with when all of a sudden my Daughter-in-law s were getting plump then with big butts! Each time we had a holiday they d make wonderful desserts. I mentioned their weight problem,only to meet up with defiance. They all attacked me,so I thought I d show them how d I look if I carried more weight,so I ate their desserts and lots of turkey and mashed potatoes they d make. When we had the next holiday meal they commented on my weight gain.They re pleased in how hey look,obese! I don t feel good as I got sluggish and sat around crocheting,sewing and knitting slot. I looked in the mirror and like what I saw namely an obese woman. I couldn t fit in my skinny jeans,so I ve cut out my chocolate cake and fudge brownies. It s going to be a long road to be back on track again. I weighed 191#s and now I m down to 161#s. The only time I was that weight is when I was pregnant with my third child.My OBGYN told me if I didn t lose that weight my husband had a right to throw me into the street! Did he ever get the message to me! I lost all that weight after Kevin was born.! He weighed at birth:9#9oz.He was my biggest baby out of five children I carried. I felt so good about myself once again. I m fitting into my skinny jeans again. The cute is cut back on sweets and chocolate bars and eat fruit veggies and meat. I ll get there in my weight as I eat rice and cooked chicken in water and cook veggies in water. It takes alot of will power to eat a few potato chips when I watch these movies on UTUBE and I ran out of seed popcorn as I pop my own using Sunflower oil to cook it in. Popcorn makes me skinny. I need to find more.
KTen@@pinkrose5796 you mention Karen Carpenter and I cry,because I loved her singing and how her brother Richard Carpenter and her were so in time with each other. He wrote it and both played instruments She loved to drum a d she was my incentive to keep thin and beautiful,so I when I heard she died I wept for a whole bunch of time! Her song "look at the Two of Us" and "Songbird" were two of my favorites.When she sang I watched her very fervently! I too miss her. There will never be another singer like her.I through my teenage years admonished her beautiful soft voice. There ll never be another like Karen forever to come as she was one of a kind... 💝😭❤️. 💝. Will anybody ever admit one can have a mentor like The Carpenters? Karen was petite and sweet plus a cutie pie. There I m talking pie again. The last piece of pie I ate was last week when I babysat for my little grandson Arik,who is three almost four in June 2022. He is small boned and yet strong. I wrestle with all four of my little grandsons and are they ever strong muscular guys. The eldest is seven and what a wrestler he is! jayce is five soon to be six and is highly intelligent besides being tall for his age and muscular. Jareth asjked his mom,my youngest daughter if I can come over to their house. They live to all pile on top of me! Wrestle is what they want to do. I love to put them in headlocks and play the game I made up "Upside Down Clown!".When I say that they jump into the air allover me! We have fun without hurting each other. ..
So Great Men today love big butt, Wide big hips and love them than She should have told him to gain some weigh and because patty was beautiful in and out side
Even when this TV movie first aired, I thought patty wasn’t heavy enough in the films first half. Even so ,I think the message was important. Showing the obsession to be “skinny” as illustrated by the best friend character, and the dangers of it. Eating unhealthy foods due to low self esteem ( the glove compartment candy wrappers scene). Patty is always enjoyable to watch.
I agree to disagree people with low self esteem come in all shapes and sizes. It just boils down to food can be an addiction just like alcohol, drugs, gambling etc. It just is a way to cope with problems which just makes problems worse just like an alcoholic.
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Exactly - how can they make a film like this when she already is slim.! Any wonder woman suffer from bulima, anorexia, etc.
Betty White was blessed with some serious genetics! Plus, she had a great outlook on life and loved animals which is probably why she always looked so good.
You have turned me Patty! Of course I remember her, but really have brought her out of my unconscious always there, a part of culture, I really admire & want to know more, please, don't just stand there, I am so glad for your channel to explore all that she did, thanks! And love the VCR click-baiting ads & clips, of another era, love it! Glimpses of days gone past.
Patty's mom was a piece of work, but she DID take care of the home, kids, meals, laundry, etc. for weeks while Patty "found herself." My mom would have looked at me like I had a hole in my head if i had asked her to do the same.
That husband grates on me. I was married 38 years and we grew old together actually he gained the most weight when he retired from being a police officer and Detective. I loved him until he passed away. I am thin because I eat balanced meals do not drink or smoke. Butttt I am older.
This could have been a powerful tool for sending a message to all who struggle with eating disorders and weight issues. It started out in the right direction. There came an artist who finally appreciated her body as it was. Except that it was only when she lost enough weight that they finally made love. It should have been while she was heavy! Then to make it worse going forward, it was when she lost weight that she began to have control of her life, became happy and finally even got her husband back. Yes, weight loss gives confidence but acceptance and peace with your body is a better first step - don't you think? The movie didn't transmit that. Though she said she lost weight for herself, the picture was still of how happy she finally became when she was thin and "beautiful". Though her heavier friend sent some powerful messages about how great good it is to accept your bigger body, that message paled into the background while the star became successfully thin. So we STILL end up feeling there is more to be gained losing weight than being satisfied with the body we have.
Agreed. Also, let's not forget that it's okay to be a creeper and seduce a married woman while also not taking no for an answer. She says she's not ready? Just go for that kiss anyway. Also, if you get cross with your wife, it's perfectly fine to smack her while insulting her. No worries, mate, she'll come around. Ugh. This was a horrid movie.
I have always been large. I have low thyroid, deformed pituitary and have been on steroids for a rare disease. My husband married me at 160 pounds, 5 feet 2inches. We had a great relationship. He didn't mind when I went up to 400 pounds. He did not like it when I lost 250 pounds. Lol He treated me with love and respect always. R IP
@@babble2leeza yeah they just put Patty in ill fitting clothes to hide the fact she wasn't really big enough to split those pants. It was nice to see Cathy Bates so young though. It must have been one of the first movies she did starting out.
First, look at Betty White❤️. However, this movie brings painful memories for me. I’ve struggled with my weight for almost 40 years. Being a 13 year old in the middle of a bunch of adults at weight watchers, avoiding pool parties etc made me feel so depressed and ashamed.
Simply change the men...and give a damn about what others say.Not only about the weight ❤️It's not easy but possible.It's ya mind and body...priority.When I was anorexic.. some humans said to me:Oh you lost weight...looking really good.We're living in an unhealthy society.Find ya own way and start breathing 💖
My daughter was anorexic and almost died from it, so this is hard to watch. She did pass away 5 years ago, but did not pass from anorexia, she was a healthy weight when she passed, but eating disorders are more of the mind than the body.
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Love this movie. It really brings home the pressure women are under to look a certain way. Men can go gray, let their bellies bulge and lose all their hair and it's accepted and they are not called shameful names or pressured to be anything but themselves.
The pressures for us men are at work and to make sure our families survive. Even good-looking women will leave us if the money starts to get thin and lean and lose weight. But these days the pressures on us are to be as well built as possible. Women these days complain about having overweight husbands and won't consider dating overweight guys.
Why can't women be appreciated for the person they are; their personality, being intelligent, succeeding in careers, being decent, caring humans,. Men think about sexy women and having sex more than they think of anything else!!!
Couldn`t agree with you more! I spent the first 26/30 yrs of my life on one diet or another (or fasting/doing mad exercise) ,and now i struggle to keep it on..crazy! I`ve worn so many discs out in my back ,and ,after scans xrays etc at 31 ,i was told my spine and joints were like that of a 60 yrold.Social media ,the media in general make us do these things to our bodies.We lose sight of what`s actually important ,lose any shred of confidence we may have had.I hope things change ,and there won`t be so much stigma about how we look/what we weigh etc.I doubt it though.The celebrities who`ve had so much plastic surgery they don`t even resemble themselves anymore.All down to pressure from their fellow peers ,the media and the public.Why do we all do this to ourselves?
Every person is forced to compete on something. Whether it was appearance or something else, women will compete with women and men will compete with men. Nowadays women will compete with men on other factors. Appearance is only one type of competition which favours "good looking" women. But suppose it changed and women had to compete on fitness and capability. Different women would succeed. Yet the competition would remain. Just as vicious.
I know right? Even women judge women who are perceived as too old when they turn 40. The unkindest thing I’ve ever heard is when someone -a female - called my Moms “well-preserved” when she was only 42! Misogyny goes both ways.
Being skinny started with the model Twiggy. In my day no one was heavy or fat, which is stored energy, every person seemed happy with themselves. My mom cooked our meals, never did she discuss weight gain. Being happy children was what Mom aim for us. Non of us were fat of her 9 children . Now, everyone is obsessed, men and women and sad to say even children. Why? Because everyone has an opinion on the subject and most crazy time period we live in. People dress sloppy today with a few exceptions. Just saying.
We’re all eating genetically modified food from meat to potatoes, vegetables, fruit etc. “Organic?” If you say so. This stuff just never fills ya up or keeps ya satiated. We’re dressing “sloppy” because clothes are made to fit tiny oriental women and the clothing made overseas-which is basically all of it-is sloppily made from cheap, trash fabric. I can no longer find a plain, short sleeve, crew neck T-shirt in white that isn’t translucent in ANY price range. At 5’ 5”, 130 lbs. finding clothing that fits and is opaque has become futile. I’m totally disgusted with the women’s clothing industry.
So true none of us 7 were obese my mum cooked every day we had meat and potatoes. We even had sausage a nd homemade chips inward once aweek.but our dinner plates were smaller.we always had rice pudding after on a tea Plate with bread and butter.never bowls full of food 🇬🇧
I always liked Patty Duke. She was a great actress. I think the same height as me, about 5' 1 1/2 ." So sad she passed away too soon. With so many tall actresses, it's always nice too see the shorter height actresses, like Sissy Spacek too. When you watch the award shows, all actresses are so tall and thin.
It was like that in the '70s. Trust me. You think it's bad now? Huh! I was in my twenties in the 70s and weighted 105 pounds at 5'6". I was always dieting and exercising. And so was everyone else. I kind of chortle when people say how much fat-shaming goes on now. No fat-shaming goes on now until you're well over 200 pounds. In the '70s - if you were not in a size 6 or lower, you were 'fat.'
I have always loved Patty Duke. I used to watch The Patty Duke Show. In my experience it was about stuffing down my feelings with food, when I really started dealing with my insecurities and anger I started eating less.
Thats why we have so many woman and young girls with self-image problems.And men that can't appreciate their woman and changes in their bodies after children
Bradford Dillman was married to Suzy Parker. I never liked his beady eyes. But this was the only movie I’ve seen him in. I was a kid, and I thought he was a jerk.
Her husband does not deserve another consideration. "When you were fat I felt betrayed". Her weight will always be the deciding factor: not his love for her.
I love Marge!!! She has a wonderful attitude! Patty is not fat and never was😂. So when I look at her skinny arms and legs you know they put fattening stuff around her middle.
Bradford Dillman portrays a cad of a husband here, but he did some brilliant work as an actor. He was married for forty years to the gorgeous Suzy Parker, who was a super model before the term was even coined in the 1980's. Rosemary Murphy as the gas lighting mother was a versatile actress. From portraying the refined Southern neighbor Maudie in 1962 's To Kill A Mockingbird to the evil madam Callie in the 1972 film Walking Tall.
Omg , so many triggers . I’m not a dumb person, but watching this film ( excellent but sad) hit it home that at least for me, eating is all emotional. And it goes back to childhood, let’s celebrate with cake/cookies/ice cream/ pizza and so good= food bad no food kind of thing. I have struggled with this for almost my entire life. I’m embarrassed to say what I weigh, but I still have my hair stand up when I gain 2-3 lbs. “ Thin” has become such a norm, I wish “ healthy” was what was promoted more…….
I think ppl are missing the mark here. First of all everybody (most ppl) really were skinny in the 70''s unlike today!! second of all it's a (movie) it's just for entertainment. Just set back enjoy!! or if you think it's stupid don't watch it.
Wow, that was probably one of the first roles Cathy Bates ever played. It is good to watch what you eat and exercise, but you don't want to get like her friend was and develop a disorder over it. I had a friend so obsessed with being thin she couldn't stop running. Eventually, she wound up having knee surgery. You don't have to starve and run marathons every day to be healthy. Just a few healthy choices here and there every day can make enough of a difference.
He f****** hit her out of slap his ass back at the f****** wedding and I can't believe the story continue without touching on that he never even apologized
My guy likes me thick😁 I'll tell you what, I started to gain weight... and I love it!! I fell the other day and I actually bounced as I fell. I think if I would have been skinny and frail I would have broke. 🤣😅🤣🤣🤣😅🤣🤣
I love Patty Duke's acting. I was disappointed in the movie though as it starts out hailing we need to be happy, love and accept ourselves regardless of our weight. I thought, this is a good, inspirational movie. Then, after losing weight, ( smaller than at college) while on the island with the man and taking pictures and saying to her friend, I can't find clothes small enough here. I'm a size 4, I've never been so happy. Then at the reception, asks a stranger if she makes him drool. Totally changed perspective. Now that she's thin, she's found herself, happiness and a new outlook. To me that just re-enforced societies outlook
I have an eating disorder rooted in 2 different issues. The primary root cause seemed from being abused by an older sister, she was born fat and I wasn't- jealousy fuels her contempt towards me - but - we are talking about the 60s, I dont think anyone knew of such things....so that line at the end that Patty said her weight was something she could control it was all hers.....so was mine but the opposite, I repelled food, stopped eating, because majority of the abuse I received was over food, the constant belittling, berating, or the mental anguish, and on occasion physical beating from my sister, the dinner table was where we came together the most, so in my child mind I thought if I dont eat food then she would not have any cause to use it against me however the abuse was everywhere and it lasted until I was 45 years old to her 48 and her perv husband sexually assaulted me right in front of her and she blamed me, that was when I finally accepted who she was and I severed the relationship with her. But the psychological damage was there until 2014 when I am having a severe health crisis did this disorder come to light, be recognized and I had to make changes The 2nd issue is at 27 I had my jaw surgically broken and realigned, the orthodontist made a huge mistake with teeth placement and the only way I could bite fully down was to yank the right jaw out of its joint, yes very painful, I had to turn to liquid type foods like soup, which combined with the other half of the disorder I just completely stopped eating alltogether.... It took me years to overcome both of them....always a work in progress
I wish Patty was my best friend. She has depth and emotion. She also is a champion for mental health well being. This gal is the real deal. God bless her where ever she may be. AMEN
She died several years ago.
She wasn't much older than I met a couple times ...
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I feel the same about Sue Johnsson, she’s an English actress , a scouser but I love her. Shes on here in a film called Lapland.
I will always love Patty Duke! She was so beautiful and so talented!
She wasn't even overweight in the first place. And she looked very nice in her clothes.
Patty Duke was a beautiful woman, thanks 💜
Reading some of the comments has made me want to contribute here as well. Lots of people are annoyed and outraged at the outdated ideas about weight, but as someone who grew up during the 70s, I can attest that IT WAS THIS WAY. People were OBSESSED with dieting and it became a big business. It's also a time when eating disorders first became known to the general public. Also, a few things about this movie..it is NOT a Lifetime or cable movie. This was shown on actual network TV, on ABC. I remember watching it first run and enjoying it very much. I loved Patty Duke's defiance against the shallow people around her, her sarcasm and humor. She lost weight for herself and learned about herself in the process. Conchatta Farrell was fantastic. The movie is really satire, a black comedy and a huge jab at the ridiculous obsession with weight and the shame people put on you.
Good movie. Many points were made!!!. I also admired the overweight friend who loved herself.
She was the only normal one.
I'm a healthy 67 year old woman. I remember the 70's well, that was only a few years after "Twiggy" the model from Great Britain. I never thought even back then that she looked healthy. No young person. male or female should be ridiculed for their weight, teeth, glasses, pimples etc by so called "adults." Back then, adults said whatever the hell they wanted, no matter how hurtful. I don't hear crap like that much anymore, and when I do, I will call that person out, with no mercy! I will NOT stand by and listen to garbage like that.
İsn't she the maid in Two and a half men?
Patty Duke is such a talent.
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Yes she was. RIP
Love this film....Patty looks gorgeous...thanks for the upload!
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I can’t stand her hubby, who leaves their husbands or wives because they gain weight. Absolutely horrible
Amen. God Bless 💗🙌
love how people will say you need to look the way you use to look but they dont look the way they use to look either
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Or if you do lose weight, they say you look sick or haggard!
@K.... Or better yet hint that they think you're bulimic. Good grief!!
I wonder where some men bought their "magic mirror" ya know, the one that reflects a handsome, in shape man, the direct opposite of the way they look! I've been on some dating sites, and I've come across quite a few profiles where there's an out of shape man, with the bushy un-kempt beard that states how he wants a woman "that's in shape!" To be fair, there's probably some women that do the same.
@@mumvictoria2757 That's what a mean, nasty, controling, weak little man-child does. Boys learn very young that a girls worth is measured by her "looks." That's the first thing some "men" do is to tear down a wife, girlfriend by her "looks." Pay attention at the next family gathering, and listen to the way little girls are spoken to compared to boys. No one ever says to boys, "oh, you're so beautiful." I put a stop to that CRAP in my family!
This movie is incredible, god bless any women on this earth who actually has a shape, we r perfect the way we are
Amen!
Every woman is built differently so weight is just a number. Love your body, feel good about yourself, and NEVER compare yourself to anyone else.
Ugh, don’t take him back
Patty duke is sweet and a great actress
That friggin calorie meeting was atrocious. Those pig masks were demeaning and cruel!
Right? This was next level fat shaming before the phrase was even invented! I guess some things never change.
It’s was cruel. They used to send kids to fat camp.
😢😢😢 agree
She was getting close that age where hormonal changes start. Having kids does a number on our body, we hit mid 30s and begin to fight weight, then add the day in and day out of a busy life. Men will never get it. Women need to learn to be healthy and happy and let men do what they do.
If a man leaves you because you gained weight then wants you back when you lose the weight, what’s to say you won’t gain it back and he will dump you again? Lots of people yo yo. I’d never take someone like that back. I’m glad she didn’t in the movie.
Don’t take him back!!! Ever!
I went through a period of post high school, lots of things to contend with, including a chronically ill Mother who needed me, family issues, and not knowing who or what I wanted to be. I became anorexic, lost my periods, and basically almost wrecked my own health. It took about 3 years, and my own strength of will, to overcome it. It was long before anorexia became a household word. Karen Carpenter's death was the real catalyst I needed to make me realize.
Sorry to hear you had Anorexia but so very glad that you overcame it!!! I was Anorexic also but even though I heard about Karen Carpenter it took me years to overcome that and bulemia. Such a double standard in our society.
I HOPE you doing ok now.God bless.
I was that Iowa Farm Wife that was forced to make a sweet everyday. My husband told me I had to learn to make pie like his mom,so I had to go to her farm house and watch how she did it. l could never mK a perfect pie ,inorder to make him happy and he d be sweet to me. I saw my daughter become obese then when she turned 15 she told me she hated herself.I one day saw he losing weight as I weighed 120#s at 5'6"" tall. She wanted to be like me.Id make pie ,but didn t eat it. I found her losing and then when she turned 16,she was voted onto the cheerleading squad. She teamed with gals and was very happy with her appearance. She was happy and worked as an assistant store manager in Family Foods Grocery Store.She worked for her own new skinny clothes and bought her own new car. She was so sure of herself,but soon I saw a very frail daughter,say I asked her about losing too much weight. Her dad was heavy set on the farm . I couldn t under stand how he lost so much weight in a short amount of time. She wasn t eating and just working.To make a long story short,she d been throwing up het food and like a movie she saw was storing her puke in her clasey in jars. She s 53 years old and realized what I talked to her about.My conversation went sour until she saw how I kept weight off. I eat one small dessert and can quit. She saw her siblings gain and be obese. I climbed all over my three sons of whom the youngest is 47;years old and was Always trim,for my kids were athletes like me and not like their dad. I saw they d pick thin girls to be with when all of a sudden my Daughter-in-law s were getting plump then with big butts! Each time we had a holiday they d make wonderful desserts. I mentioned their weight problem,only to meet up with defiance. They all attacked me,so I thought I d show them how d I look if I carried more weight,so I ate their desserts and lots of turkey and mashed potatoes they d make. When we had the next holiday meal they commented on my weight gain.They re pleased in how hey look,obese! I don t feel good as I got sluggish and sat around crocheting,sewing and knitting slot. I looked in the mirror and like what I saw namely an obese woman. I couldn t fit in my skinny jeans,so I ve cut out my chocolate cake and fudge brownies. It s going to be a long road to be back on track again. I weighed 191#s and now I m down to 161#s. The only time I was that weight is when I was pregnant with my third child.My OBGYN told me if I didn t lose that weight my husband had a right to throw me into the street! Did he ever get the message to me! I lost all that weight after Kevin was born.! He weighed at birth:9#9oz.He was my biggest baby out of five children I carried. I felt so good about myself once again. I m fitting into my skinny jeans again. The cute is cut back on sweets and chocolate bars and eat fruit veggies and meat. I ll get there in my weight as I eat rice and cooked chicken in water and cook veggies in water. It takes alot of will power to eat a few potato chips when I watch these movies on UTUBE and I ran out of seed popcorn as I pop my own using Sunflower oil to cook it in. Popcorn makes me skinny. I need to find more.
KTen@@pinkrose5796 you mention Karen Carpenter and I cry,because I loved her singing and how her brother Richard Carpenter and her were so in time with each other. He wrote it and both played instruments She loved to drum a d she was my incentive to keep thin and beautiful,so I when I heard she died I wept for a whole bunch of time! Her song "look at the Two of Us" and "Songbird" were two of my favorites.When she sang I watched her very fervently! I too miss her. There will never be another singer like her.I through my teenage years admonished her beautiful soft voice. There ll never be another like Karen forever to come as she was one of a kind... 💝😭❤️. 💝. Will anybody ever admit one can have a mentor like The Carpenters? Karen was petite and sweet plus a cutie pie. There I m talking pie again. The last piece of pie I ate was last week when I babysat for my little grandson Arik,who is three almost four in June 2022. He is small boned and yet strong. I wrestle with all four of my little grandsons and are they ever strong muscular guys. The eldest is seven and what a wrestler he is! jayce is five soon to be six and is highly intelligent besides being tall for his age and muscular. Jareth asjked his mom,my youngest daughter if I can come over to their house. They live to all pile on top of me! Wrestle is what they want to do. I love to put them in headlocks and play the game I made up "Upside Down Clown!".When I say that they jump into the air allover me! We have fun without hurting each other. ..
👋Julie I am glad you survived your situation 🙏🙌🗣️🧡💜💝‼️‼️I say loveyourselffirst eat in . moderation 🙂
The pigmask was uncalled for.
Yes, that was horrible to see.
So Great Men today love big butt,
Wide big hips and love them than
She should have told him to gain some weigh and because patty was beautiful in and out side
Even when this TV movie first aired, I thought patty wasn’t heavy enough in the films first half. Even so ,I think the message was important. Showing the obsession to be “skinny” as illustrated by the best friend character, and the dangers of it. Eating unhealthy foods due to low self esteem ( the glove compartment candy wrappers scene). Patty is always enjoyable to watch.
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People don't have eating binges due to low self esteem. They bury their feelings with food.
@@skibunny1631 I disagree. Self esteem, society pressures ,unresolved feelings, can all be a factor.
I agree to disagree people with low self esteem come in all shapes and sizes. It just boils down to food can be an addiction just like alcohol, drugs, gambling etc. It just is a way to cope with problems which just makes problems worse just like an alcoholic.
Low self esteem is the result of gorging yourself with food and becoming fat, not the cause of it. I've seen it in my life with people I know.
It’s pretty funny that Patty Duke’s “before” was considered heavy. How Michael calls her a “full-figured, voluptuous woman.” She looks normal to me.
yeah people love to body shame. she's just fine. beautiful inside and out.
Me too
Honestly it doesn't even look like they bothered to pad her up.
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Exactly - how can they make a film like this when she already is slim.! Any wonder woman suffer from bulima, anorexia, etc.
i know right, patty duke was tiny
The way the husband called Patty Duke fat - the way Patty Duke called herself fat - in spite of her looking healthy and radiant - is really upsetting…
betty white looks great, still has that wonderful personality
Betty White was blessed with some serious genetics! Plus, she had a great outlook on life and loved animals which is probably why she always looked so good.
R.I.P. Patty Duke
Better ending...she becomes an amazing artist...dates men who are worthy of her🦋
RIP Conchita Ferrell
The only one with no hang ups about not being thin enough.
She was actually quite pretty in her younger days. RIP to her and Patty Duke.
Love betty! Bless her.
The story-line for this one sure came out of the shallow end of the pool....
This movie had me shaking my head the entire time. So wrong on all levels.
Yes, but so sadly realistic!! 🤦♀️
marriage based on looks is deceitful lesson learnt
Anything with Patti Duke, I’m in.
Same x
You have turned me Patty!
Of course I remember her, but really have brought her out of my unconscious always there, a part of culture, I really admire & want to know more, please, don't just stand there, I am so glad for your channel to explore all that she did, thanks!
And love the VCR click-baiting ads & clips, of another era, love it! Glimpses of days gone past.
Patty's mom was a piece of work, but she DID take care of the home, kids, meals, laundry, etc. for weeks while Patty "found herself." My mom would have looked at me like I had a hole in my head if i had asked her to do the same.
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You gain a new member today because PATTY DUKE ! I just love her truly acting ways... ;-)
That husband grates on me. I was married 38 years and we grew old together actually he gained the most weight when he retired from being a police officer and Detective. I loved him until he passed away. I am thin because I eat balanced meals do not drink or smoke. Butttt I am older.
Maybe better to die younger and live a happy life than live long and be nasty and bitter
I just realized Betty White was in this movie too. I recognized her voice any where
And wasn't she beautiful! Can't believe this was 6 years before Golden Girls 😃
I thought that looked like Bette White. Thanks for the confirmation. 😊😊😊😊
It's hard to make an actress look fat when she's not. In this case Patty Duke had to wear bigger clothes, when in actuality she was pretty thin.
I miss Betty White so much RIP 😢. I felt so bad for Carol's friend Penny, she could've had her own movie.😔
What a pretty lady patty duke! All the women in this movie were pretty.
This could have been a powerful tool for sending a message to all who struggle with eating disorders and weight issues. It started out in the right direction. There came an artist who finally appreciated her body as it was. Except that it was only when she lost enough weight that they finally made love. It should have been while she was heavy! Then to make it worse going forward, it was when she lost weight that she began to have control of her life, became happy and finally even got her husband back. Yes, weight loss gives confidence but acceptance and peace with your body is a better first step - don't you think? The movie didn't transmit that. Though she said she lost weight for herself, the picture was still of how happy she finally became when she was thin and "beautiful". Though her heavier friend sent some powerful messages about how great good it is to accept your bigger body, that message paled into the background while the star became successfully thin. So we STILL end up feeling there is more to be gained losing weight than being satisfied with the body we have.
Agreed. Also, let's not forget that it's okay to be a creeper and seduce a married woman while also not taking no for an answer. She says she's not ready? Just go for that kiss anyway. Also, if you get cross with your wife, it's perfectly fine to smack her while insulting her. No worries, mate, she'll come around. Ugh. This was a horrid movie.
Wow! I haven't even seen it and I hate it already.
I have always been large. I have low thyroid, deformed pituitary and have been on steroids for a rare disease. My husband married me at 160 pounds, 5 feet 2inches. We had a great relationship. He didn't mind when I went up to 400 pounds. He did not like it when I lost 250 pounds. Lol He treated me with love and respect always. R IP
This movie is hard to take seriously. She isn't even fat. Looks great to me.
@@babble2leeza yeah they just put Patty in ill fitting clothes to hide the fact she wasn't really big enough to split those pants. It was nice to see Cathy Bates so young though. It must have been one of the first movies she did starting out.
Betty White is just delicious in this!!
I think the artist guy reminds me of a tall Peter Dinklage. Patty Duke and Barbara Feldon were such beautiful women.
I was thinking a blonde Grant goodeve. From 8 is enough ...
First, look at Betty White❤️. However, this movie brings painful memories for me. I’ve struggled with my weight for almost 40 years. Being a 13 year old in the middle of a bunch of adults at weight watchers, avoiding pool parties etc made me feel so depressed and ashamed.
I also was put in weight watchers at the age of 14 with a bunch of adults but my mom would always come with me.
It feels like a lot of young women were monitored for their weight when they start puberty.
Simply change the men...and give a damn about what others say.Not only about the weight ❤️It's not easy but possible.It's ya mind and body...priority.When I was anorexic.. some humans said to me:Oh you lost weight...looking really good.We're living in an unhealthy society.Find ya own way and start breathing 💖
My daughter was anorexic and almost died from it, so this is hard to watch. She did pass away 5 years ago, but did not pass from anorexia, she was a healthy weight when she passed, but eating disorders are more of the mind than the body.
So very sorry for your loss
So sorry for your loss :(
So sorry :(
My heart goes out to you my love 💖💕🙏😿😭🤗😇🐱😿💕🕊️😿😭🙀😱🇭🇲🇺🇸🇨🇦🇦🇩🇯🇲🇮🇱😢🕎✡️🇸🇭🇬🇧💔🌹 😘 regarding the tragic death of your daughter I don't wish that on my worst enemy my dear stay strong my dear sister and warrior
139 lbs! Cripes sake.. and they are calling that obese?!
And recommending a tummy tuck which one doesn't do for truly overweight patients
Yeah, no kidding!
This era really caused a lot of body image trauma!
How much is that in stones?
@@claireajibola3287just shy of 10 stone
This was a really good movie. Love Patty Duke. Her husband doesn't deserve her and her Mother is really condescending toward her.
She was wonderful
Love this movie. It really brings home the pressure women are under to look a certain way. Men can go gray, let their bellies bulge and lose all their hair and it's accepted and they are not called shameful names or pressured to be anything but themselves.
The pressures for us men are at work and to make sure our families survive. Even good-looking women will leave us if the money starts to get thin and lean and lose weight. But these days the pressures on us are to be as well built as possible. Women these days complain about having overweight husbands and won't consider dating overweight guys.
Why can't women be appreciated for the person they are; their personality, being intelligent, succeeding in careers, being decent, caring humans,. Men think about sexy women and having sex more than they think of anything else!!!
Couldn`t agree with you more! I spent the first 26/30 yrs of my life on one diet or another (or fasting/doing mad exercise) ,and now i struggle to keep it on..crazy! I`ve worn so many discs out in my back ,and ,after scans xrays etc at 31 ,i was told my spine and joints were like that of a 60 yrold.Social media ,the media in general make us do these things to our bodies.We lose sight of what`s actually important ,lose any shred of confidence we may have had.I hope things change ,and there won`t be so much stigma about how we look/what we weigh etc.I doubt it though.The celebrities who`ve had so much plastic surgery they don`t even resemble themselves anymore.All down to pressure from their fellow peers ,the media and the public.Why do we all do this to ourselves?
Every person is forced to compete on something. Whether it was appearance or something else, women will compete with women and men will compete with men. Nowadays women will compete with men on other factors.
Appearance is only one type of competition which favours "good looking" women. But suppose it changed and women had to compete on fitness and capability. Different women would succeed. Yet the competition would remain. Just as vicious.
I know right? Even women judge women who are perceived as too old when they turn 40. The unkindest thing I’ve ever heard is when someone -a female - called my Moms “well-preserved” when she was only 42! Misogyny goes both ways.
Being skinny started with the model Twiggy. In my day no one was heavy or fat, which is stored energy, every person seemed happy with themselves. My mom cooked our meals, never did she discuss weight gain. Being happy children was what Mom aim for us. Non of us were fat of her 9 children . Now, everyone is obsessed, men and women and sad to say even children. Why? Because everyone has an opinion on the subject and most crazy time period we live in. People dress sloppy today with a few exceptions. Just saying.
We’re all eating genetically modified food from meat to potatoes, vegetables, fruit etc. “Organic?” If you say so. This stuff just never fills ya up or keeps ya satiated. We’re dressing “sloppy” because clothes are made to fit tiny oriental women and the clothing made overseas-which is basically all of it-is sloppily made from cheap, trash fabric. I can no longer find a plain, short sleeve, crew neck T-shirt in white that isn’t translucent in ANY price range. At 5’ 5”, 130 lbs. finding clothing that fits and is opaque has become futile.
I’m totally disgusted with the women’s clothing industry.
Fast food obsession has contributed to weight gain and diabetes. As for clothing, I buy all my clothes at thrift stores. 🤗
So true none of us 7 were obese my mum cooked every day we had meat and potatoes. We even had sausage a nd homemade chips inward once aweek.but our dinner plates were smaller.we always had rice pudding after on a tea
Plate with bread and butter.never bowls full of food 🇬🇧
It’s hard getting old and ugly. Even if you are thin. 😓
I agree, at least it happens to all of us. We should never marry anyone who loves us because of our looks only.
Absolutely
I always liked Patty Duke. She was a great actress. I think the same height as me, about 5' 1 1/2 ." So sad she passed away too soon.
With so many tall actresses, it's always nice too see the shorter height actresses, like Sissy Spacek too. When you watch the award shows, all actresses are so tall and thin.
That is because they are dudes.
Actually she was 5 foot even
So true. Hard to look thin from just being short.
Great film. Enjoyed it!
Jesh shes just under 10 stone and they are all making a massive deal out of it.
This is nuts!!
Ten stone is 60 kg, was she less than that? She's very small.
It was like that in the '70s. Trust me. You think it's bad now? Huh! I was in my twenties in the 70s and weighted 105 pounds at 5'6". I was always dieting and exercising. And so was everyone else. I kind of chortle when people say how much fat-shaming goes on now. No fat-shaming goes on now until you're well over 200 pounds. In the '70s - if you were not in a size 6 or lower, you were 'fat.'
@@yes2day100 man black women were just obese then because ain’t no way. Idc how much weight I lose my big butt ain’t going no where.
Damn I guess Betty White was in everything😂😂😂😂
Not Everything.. but I wouldn't have minded if she was.
I have always loved Patty Duke. I used to watch The Patty Duke Show. In my experience it was about stuffing down my feelings with food, when I really started dealing with my insecurities and anger I started eating less.
She's also got this gorgeous George Michael looking guy interested lucky 🤣
LOL, Patty is not fat in this! Even Conchata Farrell is at a healthy weight.
Berta from 2 and a half men was really beautiful when she was young!
Everyone was beautiful when they were young!!
Barbara Feldon was wrong. Not eating just makes things muc, much, worse.
This movie is kind of upsetting… geez… she’s NOT FAT!
Thats why we have so many woman and young girls with self-image problems.And men that can't appreciate their woman and changes in their bodies after children
This is why women have eating disorders. Nothing wrong with her.
Bradford Dillman was married to Suzy Parker. I never liked his beady eyes. But this was the only movie I’ve seen him in. I was a kid, and I thought he was a jerk.
I don't like him either. I think he's a very good actor in anything hes in. But he seems like a jerk.
I haven't finished the movie yet, but her husband is a jerk! Totally unsupportive and mean!
Wow. That's a major example of body shaming.. 😔
It was sad and shocking all at the same time seeing Betty White playing the bad guy byotch. lol
sorry, bout that ma'am; meant the body shaming that the husband was.perperating.
Patty is one of my favorite actress how is she fat she looks wonderful in this
I agree!
Such a wonderful, gifted actress and beautiful person. Miss her.
Love this movie. Love patty Duke movies. 🤗
love her skirts and dresses she looks so good!
You dont need to be thin and good looking to please anyone else. Do what you want for your own good.
Omg look how young Conchita Farrell was b4 she was Berta on 2 an a half men.... evry1 was so young an pretty....
Everything about this movie aggravated me🤣🤣
and Patty is wearing padded clothing ‼️‼️‼️‼️✔️✔️🙂
R.i.p. Patty❤️
Her husband does not deserve another consideration. "When you were fat I felt betrayed". Her weight will always be the deciding factor: not his love for her.
Jean Smart is in this! Playing the “woman bather”. Also I love the theme song “I’m Hot Now!”
What woman bather? I didn't see her.
1979!! Never heard of it - thought it was the one with Streep and Neeson.
She had better not take his sorry ass back!
I love Marge!!! She has a wonderful attitude! Patty is not fat and never was😂. So when I look at her skinny arms and legs you know they put fattening stuff around her middle.
Ofc they used fat suit , was obvious
Bradford Dillman portrays a cad of a husband here, but he did some brilliant work as an actor. He was married for forty years to the gorgeous Suzy Parker, who was a super model before the term was even coined in the 1980's. Rosemary Murphy as the gas lighting mother was a versatile actress. From portraying the refined Southern neighbor Maudie in 1962 's To Kill A Mockingbird to the evil madam Callie in the 1972 film Walking Tall.
She was beautiful inside and out. That's what counts.
This is the only Patty Duke movie I've ever seen that I didnt like, and Ive been binge watching Patty Duke movies.
Calorie counters anaymous; is that Betty white!?*
Did she say 139 in the beginning and moan and groan?! Good grief I would be jumping for joy lol
Art Hindle, so handsome 😍
Omg , so many triggers . I’m not a dumb person, but watching this film ( excellent but sad) hit it home that at least for me, eating is all emotional. And it goes back to childhood, let’s celebrate with cake/cookies/ice cream/ pizza and so good= food bad no food kind of thing. I have struggled with this for almost my entire life. I’m embarrassed to say what I weigh, but I still have my hair stand up when I gain 2-3 lbs. “ Thin” has become such a norm, I wish “ healthy” was what was promoted more…….
I think ppl are missing the mark here. First of all everybody (most ppl) really were skinny in the 70''s unlike today!! second of all it's a (movie) it's just for entertainment. Just set back enjoy!! or if you think it's stupid don't watch it.
Wow, that was probably one of the first roles Cathy Bates ever played. It is good to watch what you eat and exercise, but you don't want to get like her friend was and develop a disorder over it. I had a friend so obsessed with being thin she couldn't stop running. Eventually, she wound up having knee surgery. You don't have to starve and run marathons every day to be healthy. Just a few healthy choices here and there every day can make enough of a difference.
Where do you see Cathy Bates here?
That aint Kathy Bates that Conchata, the housekeepr from Two and a Half Men
I like how they put Patty in layers to make her look heavy. And stood her next to very tall ladies. 😂
Omg! look at Betty white!
I wish I was 139 lbs fat!!!😳
Me too!! 😂
Sandy, Salem? You’re beautiful just the way you are.
Thank you Tundra. Thank you 🥰🥰🥰🥰
@@Salem-yy5wn Thank you !!🥰🥰
He f****** hit her out of slap his ass back at the f****** wedding and I can't believe the story continue without touching on that he never even apologized
My guy likes me thick😁
I'll tell you what, I started to gain weight... and I love it!!
I fell the other day and I actually bounced as I fell.
I think if I would have been skinny and frail I would have broke.
🤣😅🤣🤣🤣😅🤣🤣
I love Patty Duke's acting. I was disappointed in the movie though as it starts out hailing we need to be happy, love and accept ourselves regardless of our weight. I thought, this is a good, inspirational movie. Then, after losing weight, ( smaller than at college) while on the island with the man and taking pictures and saying to her friend, I can't find clothes small enough here. I'm a size 4, I've never been so happy. Then at the reception, asks a stranger if she makes him drool. Totally changed perspective. Now that she's thin, she's found herself, happiness and a new outlook. To me that just re-enforced societies outlook
Did she just say 130 lbs was fat??? UGH!!!
Right! Insanity!
Right? 130 lbs is NOT obese.
139...
Patty Duke looks fine to me.
Except for those eyebrows! They're terrible.
I have an eating disorder rooted in 2 different issues. The primary root cause seemed from being abused by an older sister, she was born fat and I wasn't- jealousy fuels her contempt towards me - but - we are talking about the 60s, I dont think anyone knew of such things....so that line at the end that Patty said her weight was something she could control it was all hers.....so was mine but the opposite, I repelled food, stopped eating, because majority of the abuse I received was over food, the constant belittling, berating, or the mental anguish, and on occasion physical beating from my sister, the dinner table was where we came together the most, so in my child mind I thought if I dont eat food then she would not have any cause to use it against me however the abuse was everywhere and it lasted until I was 45 years old to her 48 and her perv husband sexually assaulted me right in front of her and she blamed me, that was when I finally accepted who she was and I severed the relationship with her. But the psychological damage was there until 2014 when I am having a severe health crisis did this disorder come to light, be recognized and I had to make changes
The 2nd issue is at 27 I had my jaw surgically broken and realigned, the orthodontist made a huge mistake with teeth placement and the only way I could bite fully down was to yank the right jaw out of its joint, yes very painful, I had to turn to liquid type foods like soup, which combined with the other half of the disorder I just completely stopped eating alltogether....
It took me years to overcome both of them....always a work in progress
she’s not overweight. LOL
She was 5’0” , so was overweight at 139lbs
Ben and Marge are my favorite characters. Also Ben is played by Kenneth Mars the voice of King Triton.