I'm going to say ot before anyone else: Aemilianus with William Wallace will be the new rally meta. Wallace is increasing the dmg of Aemilianus by 40%!! That's 1080 dmg increase for Aemilianus!!!! So Aemi will hit the target with 3780 dmg factor and then make the target take increased dmg factor and William will deal 2400 + 480 because of the 20% smg increase, also don't forget that technically William is hitting him with 2700 as well because of the 300 aoe and in a rally situation you will be attacked, so basically he deals a total of 3240 dmg!! Imagine a Rally combination dealing 3780 and then 3240 dmg factor. Oh and it's smite smg btw, because most of the commanders only reduce skill dmg. And after all this, they are even tanky. I have no words left lol. It's truly infantry season and I'm lovin' it
@@darkoradulovic1292 he needs to be attacked to proc 300 onto the attack enemy. So in rally he will deal 2400 Plus an additional 300 because the garrison is attacking him
Man I've gone full cope mode as cav. Two garbo cav cycles and now inf is the best garrison, best rally, and best open field. It has fully gone rise of inf
He also makes certain anti-swarm garrisons suddenly swarmable with the silence (eleanor for example), that's going to be a huge factor in the prevalence of infantry rallies.
Amanitore has also a silence inmunity, but she's more like a anti-skill damage oriented commander, as his 4th skill requires skill damage to trigger, so I don't thik she's gonna be worth to use against Aemilianus. We will have to wait for a new archers garrison commander to see if someone can stop him, because right now I don't think any combo would stop him.
Btw chisgle the 4th skill for wallace is only work when you attack troops that is already on the map so its not for rally but works when wallace is garrison
New Scipio / Liu Is going to be so broken. It’s synergy is so good! Scipio has a chance to proc a debuff if he’s doing a normal attack which helps with liu che.
I am currently an open field player with marches decent expertised marches. What would you recommend: invest in another open field pair, invest in a garrison commander like or invest in a rally commander. What can I do better and what are my options here? I don’t want to only open field anymore. I run Liu Alex (double museum), Nevsky Joan and Zhuge Boudica P
Garrisons seem super vunerable now. I'd be interested to see how Amani/Arte works. Arte might also be up for relic soon. Arte if you recall, has normal damage reduction and buffs the enemy skill damage not smite. And this new commander is highly vunerable to skill damage as it has nothing to reduce it.
With these new smite commanders, is it better to choose an infantry civ (France or Rome)? Or stay with Ottoman? In my case; I run Boud/ZL, Joan/Nevsky, LC/Alex and Guan/Scipio and might consider getting (1 of) the new comms if the tests show they are (one is) the new meta. But; what's the best civ to choose?
Hello , They reduced Belisarius prime rage requirement from 200 to 100 in his first active skill, and now after the update its 200 again, can you please talk about this, lilith thinks that we won't notice
Bro, don’t you think Guan is too weak now? I think he would need a powerful relic or 2 even because Guan is unfortunately nothing special anymore, they have to add powerfully, what do you say about it?
New Scipio with Harald, dispel all Harald defend reduce but only increase Harald atk up to 75%. 75% atk also increase both smite dmg of New Scipio and Skill dmg of Harald, plus Counter atk make the pair too much to swarm
Do we? William Wallace has a skill that doesn't work against the garrison. Liu Che is it exactly rally compatible. Gorgo is Garrison Captain and her main bonus is her reduced rage cycle which is lost when you make Scipio primary print. Lastly, Tariq uses skill damage instead of smite. Maybe Scipio Jr. had to be nerfed.
@john2g1 yea won't work against the garrison however it will work as a counter rally, so there needs to be some scenario based tests for this. I suspect different commander pairings will be used as the "meta" depending on scenarios. And will vary greatly depending on the kvk mode
Remember when all the content creators said that lilith is giving us weaker commanders that wont push power creep this release cycle, so you can catch up xD
People REALLY underestimate how cracked Hera is against smite commanders with his expertise. I know all the inf simps are losing their minds about how “good” this is going to be. Good luck bc that’s a big mountain to climb.
Scipio 2700 damage Tariq 2500 damage + 900 if surrounded 40% attack bonus 10% march speed 20% march speed 30% health 30% normal damage reduction 25% normal damage reduction 30% defense 25% attack reduction 25% defense reduction And many more note: SILENCE 🤫 Now that rally is a lot of problem without any doubt. Don’t worry about Smite and Skill(different commanders in rally) they’ll make Garrisons cry
Eleanor hera will destroy this rally. It has 0 skill DMg reduction and hera reduces normal attacks by a lot. Just don't take skill DMg reduction talents on the garrison tree
@@otalgebra4436 well he gains more rage when the enemy target uses an active skill, also in that case use Aemilianus/Liu Che or Aemilianus/Tariq, these combinations are pretty tanky
@@ibrahimguel90 Tariq does skill DMg which Eleanor counters and liu che is not for rallying. Hera hard counters everything smite related as well. Everyone thought Eleanor was weak, she is actually the best garrison. People think this guy is strong but he has really hard counters and will not do well vs them
@@otalgebra4436 Tariq increases the dmg he deals against Cav by 10%, also, naturally, inf counters cav. But there's no point in arguing, they will do testing anyways😉 so let's wait and see how it turns out
Meh, I love the new inf coms. I just wish cav would have gotten a better garrison and beli woulda had aoe. But beli is still good, even though people don't see it yet. Then again, I use all 3 troops. My best set of gear is just a cav set
I'm a Cav Main And most of my Commanders is Cavs and a Big spender during KvK i will officially quit if LiLLith didn't do something about Cavs...Best Rally Archer Best Garrison infantry Best field Infantry... Even Siege Can Defeat Cavs on 1v1 wtf! happening now in this game 🤬🤬🤬🤬
I'm going to say ot before anyone else: Aemilianus with William Wallace will be the new rally meta. Wallace is increasing the dmg of Aemilianus by 40%!! That's 1080 dmg increase for Aemilianus!!!! So Aemi will hit the target with 3780 dmg factor and then make the target take increased dmg factor and William will deal 2400 + 480 because of the 20% smg increase, also don't forget that technically William is hitting him with 2700 as well because of the 300 aoe and in a rally situation you will be attacked, so basically he deals a total of 3240 dmg!! Imagine a Rally combination dealing 3780 and then 3240 dmg factor. Oh and it's smite smg btw, because most of the commanders only reduce skill dmg. And after all this, they are even tanky. I have no words left lol. It's truly infantry season and I'm lovin' it
William doesn't have to be surrounded to have that extra 300 dmg
Yes.
@@darkoradulovic1292 he needs to be attacked to proc 300 onto the attack enemy. So in rally he will deal 2400 Plus an additional 300 because the garrison is attacking him
@@darkoradulovic1292 kolki ti power brate
@@nikolapetric6110 Tu sam uvek iznad sto pa u kvk se spustim ispod i tako u krug 😅
As a father of 4 I can appreciate how busy you must be. Thanks for still taking the time to drop a vid. ✌️
Man I've gone full cope mode as cav. Two garbo cav cycles and now inf is the best garrison, best rally, and best open field. It has fully gone rise of inf
They weren't garbage at all. They just weren't the very best
Huo was good beli was garbage
Huo was first commander with 2700 skill damage.
@@cyberlord645 you think that, till a squad of them melts your flags and pushes you out of a zone in record time
@@jimibones178 that's to say they control field wnough to push onto a flag
He also makes certain anti-swarm garrisons suddenly swarmable with the silence (eleanor for example), that's going to be a huge factor in the prevalence of infantry rallies.
Cavalry mains are panicking 😂😂
Shambles 😂😂😂😂😂
@@josephdelorenzo351 🤣😂😂😂😂🤣
@@josephdelorenzo351 🤣😂😂😂😂🤣
Sadly we cry 😂😂😂
INF mains be like "Know my pain". 😚
Buddy, your videos are always very well done. Thank you for the great info and assistance 👌🏼
Amanitore has also a silence inmunity, but she's more like a anti-skill damage oriented commander, as his 4th skill requires skill damage to trigger, so I don't thik she's gonna be worth to use against Aemilianus. We will have to wait for a new archers garrison commander to see if someone can stop him, because right now I don't think any combo would stop him.
Info always drops when chisgule is on the road
Btw chisgle the 4th skill for wallace is only work when you attack troops that is already on the map so its not for rally but works when wallace is garrison
Chisgule never rests. Great video
New Scipio / Liu Is going to be so broken. It’s synergy is so good! Scipio has a chance to proc a debuff if he’s doing a normal attack which helps with liu che.
I am currently an open field player with marches decent expertised marches. What would you recommend: invest in another open field pair, invest in a garrison commander like or invest in a rally commander. What can I do better and what are my options here? I don’t want to only open field anymore.
I run Liu Alex (double museum), Nevsky Joan and Zhuge Boudica P
He's gonna be great for swarming Garrisons... and can be used on the field if you have him
Tes most his skills doesn’t say if he is rallying
I hope inf keeps this streak im ftp and wanna get 3 inf marchs up eventually ahaha
Publishing a video while traveling? Common Chisgule W. Thank you!
4:04 legit thought you were gonna say amani 😂🤣
dont forget about the accesoires that give health debuff etc
Can’t wait to see Aemil/Atilla rallies
New scippy gorgo!!! A meta rally! Mark my words
Will you be live-streaming 93T and GT altar fight?
The NEW Rise of Infantry 🎉❤
INF main since 2020…. Winning in 2024! 😂
Garrisons seem super vunerable now.
I'd be interested to see how Amani/Arte works. Arte might also be up for relic soon.
Arte if you recall, has normal damage reduction and buffs the enemy skill damage not smite. And this new commander is highly vunerable to skill damage as it has nothing to reduce it.
With these new smite commanders, is it better to choose an infantry civ (France or Rome)? Or stay with Ottoman?
In my case; I run Boud/ZL, Joan/Nevsky, LC/Alex and Guan/Scipio and might consider getting (1 of) the new comms if the tests show they are (one is) the new meta.
But; what's the best civ to choose?
Hello , They reduced Belisarius prime rage requirement from 200 to 100 in his first active skill, and now after the update its 200 again, can you please talk about this, lilith thinks that we won't notice
When they are coming out? WW and Scipio 3rd
OMG Lilith better give us next cavalry back up cuz this commander is too powerfull
Forgot about Armanitores immunity to silence ?
I am glad i chose myself to be an infantry main
what is best talent build for him?
can i ask in pre kvk even im not townhall 25 can i participate in pre kvk?
Is it mge or wheel commander ?
Wait for Harald relic and he will be meta with the new one, no more defense debuff LOL
Good point
Scipio A + Pakal, good combo. pakal rally damage 5%, attack 40%, health 30%, expertise 5% damage reduce (anti swarm) + Greece +5% rally damage. Scipio give 30% health, Smite damage, buff and debuff.
Use Harald instead then you get an extra 115% attack
The new Scipio is a field meta for infantry, he looks crazy 🔥
He will be bad in field. Skill 2 and 3 only apply for rally.
Bro, don’t you think Guan is too weak now? I think he would need a powerful relic or 2 even because Guan is unfortunately nothing special anymore, they have to add powerfully, what do you say about it?
New Scipio with Harald, dispel all Harald defend reduce but only increase Harald atk up to 75%.
75% atk also increase both smite dmg of New Scipio and Skill dmg of Harald, plus Counter atk make the pair too much to swarm
The third skill on Wallace doesn’t work for rally on buildings as it only activates if you’re attacking troops on the field
No
Counterrally exists^^
Counter rallys any okaish commander works😅
Wallece and Scypio which pair ?
Nice Video! Just the music is a little to loud..
Finally we have a good inf rally!!
Do we?
William Wallace has a skill that doesn't work against the garrison.
Liu Che is it exactly rally compatible.
Gorgo is Garrison Captain and her main bonus is her reduced rage cycle which is lost when you make Scipio primary print.
Lastly, Tariq uses skill damage instead of smite.
Maybe Scipio Jr. had to be nerfed.
@john2g1 yea won't work against the garrison however it will work as a counter rally, so there needs to be some scenario based tests for this. I suspect different commander pairings will be used as the "meta" depending on scenarios. And will vary greatly depending on the kvk mode
Liu che is probably gonna get the smite talent tree in the future i hope so lol
Tbh until we test the talent tree idk, might be worth liu keeping the current, though I suspect gorgo would benefit from it
@simi8246 we'll have to see
Why not pair him with scipi prime and get some crazy skill cycling?
And what do i do with sargon 😢😅
In all honesty I don’t know if the hype is justified. Will be waiting for the tests/ kvk reports before even thinking about investing
I'm a cav main no panic here 😂
Tariq could also be paired, cuz he boost all damage, weak to swarm tho
Remember when all the content creators said that lilith is giving us weaker commanders that wont push power creep this release cycle, so you can catch up xD
So you guys are going for Scipio or WW??
Cavs mains crying rn 😭
Inf meta won’t last long, seems like he’ll perform like huo, expected to take meta but just not there.
Huo still the 3rd best march on the game and will still on the 5 murder ball just because the high mobility and damage.
@@waltercariani4.20 I know, what I was saying is the high expectations huo had are similar here, I main huo/joan p.
Wallace is only field.
Scipio high damage and debuff only rally commander.
Only see tariq or liu viable pairs
HELP ME BRO!!!! ROK WHERE ARE YOU??!!!!
(I am a cav main) 😅😭
whoa
When will be new cavs?
8mos
People REALLY underestimate how cracked Hera is against smite commanders with his expertise. I know all the inf simps are losing their minds about how “good” this is going to be. Good luck bc that’s a big mountain to climb.
As good as he looks, this will be an expensive investment because he is really only useable in a rally scenario. Fielding with him would be very dumb
And people still think Lilith isn't sucking off Infantry..meanwhile us Cav mains haven't got an AOE commander since Joan. ICANT
i miss the streams
Without rallying he is just Guan 2.0 😆
Rise of Scipio real
Us infantry are up
There are 3 archer commanders who can slap the "silent" effect 😂😂
Lilith's like "I know you infantry freaks have complained time and again about how unfair the game has been to you, so here, HAVE AT IT!"
Scipio 2700 damage
Tariq 2500 damage + 900 if surrounded
40% attack bonus
10% march speed
20% march speed
30% health
30% normal damage reduction
25% normal damage reduction
30% defense
25% attack reduction
25% defense reduction
And many more
note: SILENCE 🤫
Now that rally is a lot of problem without any doubt. Don’t worry about Smite and Skill(different commanders in rally) they’ll make Garrisons cry
DEPRESSION TIME! The rich call it cleaning out the arteries…
Evil will always find a way .. .. . …
3rd skill also counters dido defense debuff :/
Please add Persian subtitles
Pair with pakal for extra health😂😂
Guaranteed archer garrison address none of this😅
3 damn scipio,s
It's funny to see that Eleanor became irrelevant without even becoming relevant because of Aemis Expertise 🤣🤣
Yes, cry’s in Dido
Eleanor hera will destroy this rally. It has 0 skill DMg reduction and hera reduces normal attacks by a lot. Just don't take skill DMg reduction talents on the garrison tree
@@otalgebra4436 well he gains more rage when the enemy target uses an active skill, also in that case use Aemilianus/Liu Che or Aemilianus/Tariq, these combinations are pretty tanky
@@ibrahimguel90 Tariq does skill DMg which Eleanor counters and liu che is not for rallying. Hera hard counters everything smite related as well. Everyone thought Eleanor was weak, she is actually the best garrison. People think this guy is strong but he has really hard counters and will not do well vs them
@@otalgebra4436 Tariq increases the dmg he deals against Cav by 10%, also, naturally, inf counters cav. But there's no point in arguing, they will do testing anyways😉 so let's wait and see how it turns out
Amanitore/Artemisia counter xDDD
Not sure Scipio3 and William Wallace are must gets. Without AOE neither seems great except for their niche role.
Honestly this makes me want to quit the game 😂
Theodora instead of Attila
Cavalary players crying after 4 years of domain 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Meh, I love the new inf coms. I just wish cav would have gotten a better garrison and beli woulda had aoe. But beli is still good, even though people don't see it yet. Then again, I use all 3 troops. My best set of gear is just a cav set
I'm a Cav Main And most of my Commanders is Cavs and a Big spender during KvK i will officially quit if LiLLith didn't do something about Cavs...Best Rally Archer Best Garrison infantry Best field Infantry... Even Siege Can Defeat Cavs on 1v1 wtf! happening now in this game 🤬🤬🤬🤬
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New scipio/scipio prime? Lol
Eleanor is now completely useless 😂. Pisses me off as a cav guy
Pair her with hera and she will destroy this rally mark my words. This rally has 0 skill DMg reduction
Another Scipio 😑 C’mon Lilith ⚰️🗑
Another scipio? Lol
Not looking good in the sim. It’s a temp smite tree with just the data that has been released, but still, this guy is losing to everything.
Damn those fake messages are fast