Hello teacher I am irfan From Turkey I am physical education I have students who will take tennis lessons for the first time. There is no tennis court at school, no balls, no rackets. We provided all of them thanks to our volunteer friends. and you. I decided to explain it in the light of our beautiful lessons. I just discovered your channel.❤❤❤❤
Every waiter‘s serve has at least one specific characteristic that has to be eliminated to fix this: Dorsal extension of the wrist during the (attempted) racket drop. From my experience, actively concentrating on limiting the wrist movement with the serve in radial direction (before hitting the ball) makes teaching/ learning a technically correct serve - just as described in this video - a lot easier.
All this sounds nice but every player I've dealt with who has a waiter's tray does the following: as soon as the racquet gets behind their vision, their unconscious takes over and they go right back to their waiter's tray. Often they don';t even know that they've done it. they can't feel it so they can't make the change. your thoughts ??
Hi Mark, Thanks for the great question. What I recommend a practicing the swing ( a lot) in front of a mirror. That way you can keep your eyes and awareness on the swing path and gradually replace the trust in old movement. Then get on the court and practice without consideration for the accuracy as presented in the video. Please let me know your thoughts on this. Thanks, John
Interesting observation here, John: no one in the world will have a waiters tray motion if you ask them to hit the ball with the edge of racket! Please try with one of your students with a waiter tray serve. Here’s my explanation. Human brain does not accept the idea of dropping the racket on edge and also leading on edge towards the ball when it knows the ball needs to be hit with the racket face. It’s just unintuitive.
The waiters tray is the correct position. The problem is the grip. With a continental grip, the edge of the racket hits up on the ball, imparting spin. The second serve is a lob, essential for tiny juniors to develop. As they grow in size and racket speed, all that is needed is to toss more forward. This causes impact to move higher on the ball. Watch Coco not get under the ball and smash second serves into the bottom of the net; then she looks at her box in total bewilderment.
This yet again misunderstands why the waiters tray is preferred as a default for most people and why none of these drills will “cure” it. The issue is to understand pronation and where the power for the serve comes from as a throwing action rather than a hitting action.
Thanks Ken. All of the above named concepts and solutions are presented within my Serve Playlist...not all things are covered in this video. I appreciate your feedback and contribution to the video. Best, John
Hello teacher
I am irfan
From Turkey
I am physical education
I have students who will take tennis lessons for the first time. There is no tennis court at school, no balls, no rackets. We provided all of them thanks to our volunteer friends. and you. I decided to explain it in the light of our beautiful lessons. I just discovered your channel.❤❤❤❤
Thanks for great instructions
I am still fighting to get rid of the waiters tray. Good video.
Every waiter‘s serve has at least one specific characteristic that has to be eliminated to fix this:
Dorsal extension of the wrist during the (attempted) racket drop. From my experience, actively concentrating on limiting the wrist movement with the serve in radial direction (before hitting the ball) makes teaching/ learning a technically correct serve - just as described in this video - a lot easier.
All this sounds nice but every player I've dealt with who has a waiter's tray does the following: as soon as the racquet gets behind their vision, their unconscious takes over and they go right back to their waiter's tray. Often they don';t even know that they've done it. they can't feel it so they can't make the change. your thoughts ??
Hi Mark, Thanks for the great question. What I recommend a practicing the swing ( a lot) in front of a mirror. That way you can keep your eyes and awareness on the swing path and gradually replace the trust in old movement. Then get on the court and practice without consideration for the accuracy as presented in the video. Please let me know your thoughts on this. Thanks, John
Interesting observation here, John: no one in the world will have a waiters tray motion if you ask them to hit the ball with the edge of racket! Please try with one of your students with a waiter tray serve. Here’s my explanation. Human brain does not accept the idea of dropping the racket on edge and also leading on edge towards the ball when it knows the ball needs to be hit with the racket face. It’s just unintuitive.
The waiters tray is the correct position. The problem is the grip. With a continental grip, the edge of the racket hits up on the ball, imparting spin. The second serve is a lob, essential for tiny juniors to develop. As they grow in size and racket speed, all that is needed is to toss more forward. This causes impact to move higher on the ball. Watch Coco not get under the ball and smash second serves into the bottom of the net; then she looks at her box in total bewilderment.
This yet again misunderstands why the waiters tray is preferred as a default for most people and why none of these drills will “cure” it. The issue is to understand pronation and where the power for the serve comes from as a throwing action rather than a hitting action.
Thanks Ken. All of the above named concepts and solutions are presented within my Serve Playlist...not all things are covered in this video. I appreciate your feedback and contribution to the video. Best, John