Freewell hands down. The Polar Pro is strong in branding and marketing but not worth it comparatively speaking. And Moment has been kinda disappointing the last 4 months or so I’m a little out on them for now.
I saw a lot of this crosspolarization of the polarpro on the potatojet vlog "Essentials for FilmMakers ON the GO!" at 0:22 , 0:52 , 0:54 is in all the vlog really hard.
F R E E W E L L ………. for sure !!!! Would be great if you can make a video of different cameras and different slog how to color grade and make it looks like was film with the same camera
Fantastic video, Dunna! I know how hard these types of videos are to make and I really appreciate your approach and method here. Respect, dude. Great job! 🤓👍💜💯
Thanks man! I thought about you a handful of times while I was making it. Usually I was thinking “how the hell does he do this every damn time! It’s so much friggin work!” 😜
Thanks for running these tests and being exhaustive about just about every consideration. Creators and testers like you are why TH-cam is so valuable to creators. Thank you, and subscribed.
The Freewells are now actually available in 58, 62, 67, 72, 77, 82, 86 and 95mm!! I bought the 95mm for my telephoto. Thanks for the information my friend!!!
thank you for doing this! the vast amount of information in such a clear and concise video is incredible! and like many others, i am now most interested in the freewells!
Polar Pro for me. Got the combo pack and they’ve been 🔥. First thing I pack. The filter cover on them should not be underestimated when run n gunning. A joy to use.
Thank you for making this video! I was going to get the polar pro set but after watching this I'm using the link to get the freewell for sure. I would like having all the extra stuff that come with the polar pro......I just like extra money in my pocket more. Keep up the good work 🤙🏼
This was an amazing video - love the thoroughness and attention to detail. Would've loved to see B+W filters included in this. That's what I've been using for a while and now wondering how they would've stacked up. 🤔
Excellent comparison video. Really appreciate your production. You got me to swing to Freewell. To minimize the cross polarization / vignetting effect, does it make sense to get the larger size filter and step up in effort to use sweet center portion of filter, or just to get exact size to fit lens whenever possible?
Great video man! I was stuck deciding wether to choose the PolarPro V2 or the Moment and didn't even know about the Freewell. I do mainly video over photo so my end plan it to pickup a PolarPro Basecamp system, I therefore in the meantime didn't want to spend TOO much on screw on filters, only to end up barely using them in the longer term. You've made my decision very easy, Freewell 6-9 in an 82mm and some step-up rings should do me just fine until I can afford that sweet Basecamp System! Keep up the great content man!
Seeing the cross polarization in all of these makes me wonder if it’s worth getting a variable Nd rather then just getting a solid one. I get the idea but I would never risk the picture quality with a huge x in the middle I didn’t notice until it was too late.
@Joshua Gunther now I'm using two solid nd filter B+W (3 and 6 tops). Great quality, but pain in the ass to change filter frequently for videos. I'm considering get a freewell 2-5 to change less during the shooting, and I'll keep my solid 6 stops for few footages and photos. Let's see if it's gonna work. Kind regards
Excellent review! I've had the freewell in my cart at B&H for some time now. I'm just waiting for them to be in stock then i'm pulling the trigger. Thanks for helping me make up my mind.
After waiting a couple weeks for this review I still can't be disappointed with the outcome even if it wasn't the one I wanted to hear. The reason why I'm so for the Moment VND is because Aesthetic mainly, haha. Also I have a serious brand loyalty problem since I currently use Moment filters for my Drone and was looking to upgrade my current VND I own. The moment is still within my budget range and I am hoping I don't regret the purchase even if it didn't come out as high :/
Just got my Freewell NDs today. Now they come in cheap metal boxes which are a pain to open. Cross Polarization effect is also stronger than in test images. I don't see 4, 5 and 9 stops as usable.
The polar pro 6-9 was clearly the best as long as you are not going super wide. Colour shift was almost zero. So if you need that much (high iso log shooting) probably best to go for that.
Variable ND filters basically work make making the polarization angle between each glass piece more and more cross, but those dark spots appear because the polarization direction does not remain uniform throughout the glass, probably due to limits in the tolerance of the manufacturing.
Cool! That was something I wanted to do in this one too but quickly realized it was already going to be 20+ min long lol. Maybe I’ll do some more videos comparing more real life examples.
@@dunnadidit This was my thought as well. Even when shooting neutral on the A7III I notice a slight green cast that always needs to be corrected. I was actually wondering if the cast from any of the VND's would correct the skin tones in camera. I currently use breakthrough photography filters, who don't make a VND last I checked.
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Hi, thanks for this great comparison. I really adore the magnetic cap from freewell. The price is also great. My issue is that the range i would like is around 4-8 stops for outdoor. Just between the 2 filters. One question : is there the neutral position on the Freewell 6-9 stops filter ? I understood it exists on the 2-5 stops version.
Thanks for the thorough review on the variable ND. I’d definitely keep Freewell in mind. However, was wondering if you could do some reviews on the square(100mm) filters. I like them for the soft gradients.
Yup! In the video I mentioned that I was using a 67-77mm step up ring to shoot all the test shots. And actually, I highly recommend the freewell step up rings too as they are the thinnest step ups I could find.
Ah yes, that would have to do with the polarization like we saw in my tests, it may vary a little outside though! Thanks for the suggestion, if I can sneak that in another video i will!
These are all relatively expensive filters and I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them. If I had an unlimited budget and was a more experienced videographer, I’d definitely go with the Polarpro or most expensive option. I think the benefit of going with the most expensive (and best) option is you don’t have any second doubts or worries after you purchase them with the amount of thought, features and approval behind the PM edition filters. Almost like a “set it and forget it” mentality. But on the other hand, I think if you’re very limited in budget and you’re only using the kit lens on your camera-there’s nothing wrong about going with a $25-50 filter as that filter will marginally improve your shots with minimum investment. A win-win situation. As for me, I’m planning to start my own channel and having just purchased a mirrorless (m50) let alone my first camera I went with the Freewell NDs to pair with my new Sigma lens. Price point and quality all checked out from the very little and early reviews. After using the filter for a month that purchase did not disappoint. I like to keep my aperture at the lowest and this just does that without noticeable lost in image quality. Very happy with these even though it doesn’t have the “coolness” factor nor the endorsement of PM, which says a lot about the bang for your buck that you get with these.
I think that there is a limit to that though. I’ve had some cheap VNDs before and they actually made my image worse. Color shift, vignetting, cross polarization etc. so sometimes going with the cheap option might actually hurt you more than waiting. Luckily, the freewells are super high quality and not expensive at all in the grand scheme of variable Nd filters.
Dunna Did It completely agree! Thank you Dunna for these in-depth reviews as it helps a ton for us viewers in deciding what to buy. You guys do a lot for us and I don’t want that to go unnoticed.
Thanks so much for the fine video. Will really help me decide what to buy. Separate question, what L-bracket and then clamp are you using that you have mounted on the fluid head?
You might want to take a look at the tyfoto vari-nd filters(mytyfoto.com). I've been using them for a while 82mm 2-8stops is $69,- According to some reviews and testers they use the same glass as the more expensive b+w MCR filters. They also seem to ship directly from the factory so same idea as Freewell.
I am using the Polar Pro/Peter McKinnon 2-5 stops. Have you ever done a test with vertical and horizontal images. I am noticing a hugh color shift from vertical to horizontal. Would there be a better filter option that would not do the color shift at much.
@@dunnadidit thank you so much! I am scratching my head right now, because all of them are pretty close. I kind of want to go Moment anyway, because of the design 😅 still thank you for your opiniom and great in depth review of all 3! You are best! Btw. Did you stayed with a7iii or went with a7C? 😃
Hi! So it looks like the cross polarization is pretty big problem for wide angle lenses and variable ND filters in general. If we wanted to use a wide angle lens with an ND filter, should we get a fixed ND filter then? I'm definitely leaning towards the Freewell ND filters, but wondering if should just get the freewell magnetic fixed filters to avoid this problem if we want to vlog on the wide lenses.
I know I'm a bit late on commenting on this video, but have you tested any of the filters when it comes to flares? I have a older VND (Genus) that gives a ugly blue cast whenever it gets a flare when shooting outdoors. It is super annoying and is not easy to fix in post.
Why not SLR Magic? they are well known for being the best for almost no colour caste whatsoever and they cost less than those polar pro weird gold things. Any reason why these are being ignored?
Honestly, I didn’t even know they made variable nd’s until someone mentioned them in a comment. I guess they aren’t as well known as you think! But I’d love to try them out in the future.
Do you know if the color cast caused by a VND varies with the number of stops? In other words, is the color cast the same at 2 Stops as it is at 5 stops. If so, I could create a node in Davinci Resolve to offset the cast for a specific ND filter and simply use it every time. However, if the cast changes depending upon the number of stops then the benefits of such a node would be less.
Hey. Would it make a difference to set the white balance AFTER putting on the filter in terms of the color cast? Could this mitigate the effects of the Moment or Freewell filters?
YES! Always do this if you can! The only reason I didn’t in the video is just to show the color cast. But you definitely want to fix your white balance before you shoot
Would it be a good Idea to buy a step up ring to the maximun diameter (82mm) so I can have a one size fits all type of approach?. I would only need to buy one size filters for all my lenses makes senses?
Well... when its time to upgrade my variable nd filters I know what I am getting now. I wonder how these would look with a vintage lens. I shoot mostly on my Great Grandfather's lenses adapted to a Sony a6000. Probably gonna pick up an autofocus lens like the sigma 16mm or something though before I upgrade my filters.
Hi Dunna, Aaron here. Appreciate the meticulous tests! May I ask the cross polarization for Freewell happens at 16mm focal length and below, does this applies for full frame focal length ? And which a focal length you tested for your end that it has cross polarization?
As someone who does manufacturing, I can say without any hesitation, a not so insignificant part of the cost of the PolarPro is that packaging. Geez! Put it in a much more simple box and charge people less. Sure, the packaging needs to convey a sense of quality. But, I really believe some manufacturers are going overboard in an effort to placate "box snobs". And for those of you "box snobs" that like all the superfluous foil-embossed world map graphics on the box, yeah. That'll get you better photos and videos.
Unfortunately it seems like they aren't on most of my Canadian sources. This is the best I can do for you! (they're affiliate links). Amazon: geni.us/iY0YO B&H: bhpho.to/2w3Zxq8
hey dunna, my biggest pet peeve in nd filters is that they always seem to get little micro scratches after a while of having them i dont think this quesitonw as answered but are these 3 nd filters scratch proof?
Unfortunately the wide angle lenses that I have need step rings in order to test the filters on. That said, using step rings is a pretty real life situation anyway so the tests are still quite useful. Generally, step rings will only introduce vignetting as an issue, but in this case, none of the lenses suffered from severe vignetting with the filters so I don’t think the step rings were causing problems anyway.
Polarpro’s customer service is really bad….I’d rather go with freewell. Paying that amount of money, you don’t get an exceptional filter while a bad customer service. What can be worse?
The moment VND is designed specifically to allow you to use your lens cap - that's why it's so big. Works perfectly with my cap for my Canon 24-70 f2.8. I have the moment 2-5 stop, and the picture quality is GREAT. They boast no vignetting down to a 16 mm focal length, but I don't have a wide enough lens to prove of explore that. The case is cool, but it is pretty annoying to have to unscrew every time. Great review man!
Oh interesting! Testing now...Okay, I see this. Thats kind of neat! I'll make a little update in the description! Thanks for sharing. I agree that the quality is good, I didn't see any vignetting on any of these filters down at 17mm but the cross polarization is a real problem on all of them still. If it weren't for the freewell filters being even less expensive and better performing, I'd probably be more inclined so suggest the moment filters to people looking for a cheaper option than the polarpro.
Hey Dunna, SPOT ON, One more thing Freewell is the only manufacture among 3 of them we have our own production facility so we can offer reasonable prices without sacrificing on quality. Thanks
@@MangZhu Freewell is killing it with all their filters. I've got (and recommend) the 2-5vnd, 6-9vnd, cpl, and light pollution. If they had taken out mist-like filters before Moment did their Cinebloom, I would've probably gotten those too.
But your customer service is horrific and that's just as important especially when you're charging people $100 + per filter. Thought I'd buy a freewell after watcching this video but its clearly cheaper for all the wrong reasons
Glad to see how well the Freewell stand up towards the PPVND. If PolarPro would just offer a non-signature series option, id be all over it. Nice work on this!
The Freewells appeal to my frugal side and well, 🧲 magnets 🧲 The Moments are nice too, the PM polar pros are so far outside my budget that they aren’t even an option. Thanks for the comparison! :)
Thank you for these very thorough tests and comparisons. From start to conclusion the Freewells stood out. It's 2020, who needs all the overdone packaging.
I'm right there with you. Im using some Promaster variable nd filters since they are like the middle tier and since I am in college I got a discount on them. All these filters are still way out of what I can afford
Which one would you pick up? Moment, Freewell or Polar Pro/Peter McKinnon?
No brainer after all your hard work on this video if someone goes & picks other than Freewell
Agreed, the Freewell looks like the best option.thanks for the info, another great vid. 👍
Freewell hands down. The Polar Pro is strong in branding and marketing but not worth it comparatively speaking. And Moment has been kinda disappointing the last 4 months or so I’m a little out on them for now.
I saw a lot of this crosspolarization of the polarpro on the potatojet vlog "Essentials for FilmMakers ON the GO!" at 0:22 , 0:52 , 0:54 is in all the vlog really hard.
F R E E W E L L ………. for sure !!!! Would be great if you can make a video of different cameras and different slog how to color grade and make it looks like was film with the same camera
Fantastic video, Dunna! I know how hard these types of videos are to make and I really appreciate your approach and method here. Respect, dude. Great job! 🤓👍💜💯
Thanks man! I thought about you a handful of times while I was making it. Usually I was thinking “how the hell does he do this every damn time! It’s so much friggin work!” 😜
I just saw this entire 22 minute video as an Ad before your ND filter video
You’ve convinced me, I need them all
Haha that was really the end goal. Everyone use my links to buy all of them!! 😜
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as long as people just shoot the right shutter speed I don't care what one they buy 🤣
Good guy moment
Amen! Also, sorry I didn’t catch the lens cap trick until someone told me in the comments. Now I get why they’re wider 🤦🏻♂️
heck yeh!
Wrong, you can't do that on video without doing a mess with your footage
Killing it Dunna!!!
Thanks a ton! It means a lot!
Thanks for running these tests and being exhaustive about just about every consideration. Creators and testers like you are why TH-cam is so valuable to creators. Thank you, and subscribed.
The Freewells are now actually available in 58, 62, 67, 72, 77, 82, 86 and 95mm!! I bought the 95mm for my telephoto. Thanks for the information my friend!!!
thank you for doing this! the vast amount of information in such a clear and concise video is incredible! and like many others, i am now most interested in the freewells!
Thanks so much for saying that!
FINALLY! I’ve been waiting for someone to make this video
Sorry I took so long 😂😉
Ahhhh damn I just ordered the Polarpro a week ago. Wish I had seen this review earlier
The PolarPro is still great! You’ll love em!
those damn ads dude! I was so close to getting the PP's
Polar Pro for me. Got the combo pack and they’ve been 🔥. First thing I pack. The filter cover on them should not be underestimated when run n gunning. A joy to use.
Totally! I got them on release too and have loved them since!
Thank you for making this video! I was going to get the polar pro set but after watching this I'm using the link to get the freewell for sure. I would like having all the extra stuff that come with the polar pro......I just like extra money in my pocket more. Keep up the good work 🤙🏼
Haha extra stuff vs extra money is a tough one!
This was an amazing video - love the thoroughness and attention to detail. Would've loved to see B+W filters included in this. That's what I've been using for a while and now wondering how they would've stacked up. 🤔
Thanks so much for the kind words and the recommendation!
Just ordered the Freewell and used your affiliate link. Thanks for the review!
Absolutely solid review on these nd filters - i'm literally stuck between the moment and peter Mck filters
Thanks for watching! They’re all great tbh, I’m sure you’ll be happy with whatever you get!
Great vid Dunna! Very thorough and extremely helpful. Appreciate all the effort that went into this one! 👍
Thanks for saying that Stephen!
Love my moment NDs !
Thanks for putting in all this work on such a detailed review! So helpful!!
Thanks for watching and for the kind words!!
Thank you for your energy!
Excellent comparison video. Really appreciate your production. You got me to swing to Freewell. To minimize the cross polarization / vignetting effect, does it make sense to get the larger size filter and step up in effort to use sweet center portion of filter, or just to get exact size to fit lens whenever possible?
Great video. Definitely subscribing because of the hardwork put into it.
Thanks so much!
Great video man! I was stuck deciding wether to choose the PolarPro V2 or the Moment and didn't even know about the Freewell.
I do mainly video over photo so my end plan it to pickup a PolarPro Basecamp system, I therefore in the meantime didn't want to spend TOO much on screw on filters, only to end up barely using them in the longer term. You've made my decision very easy, Freewell 6-9 in an 82mm and some step-up rings should do me just fine until I can afford that sweet Basecamp System!
Keep up the great content man!
Honest and detailed, I like your reviews man I need to subscribe.
Awesome review!! I'm considering get the 2-5 freewell and keep my solid 6 stops B+W. Thanks for sharing bro!!
Nice!!
Seeing the cross polarization in all of these makes me wonder if it’s worth getting a variable Nd rather then just getting a solid one. I get the idea but I would never risk the picture quality with a huge x in the middle I didn’t notice until it was too late.
Let’s just say, after doing these tests I’ll probably be using my solid nd’s much more often.
@@dunnadidit I'm with you! Awesome video Dunna. Thanks so much. Totally needed to see this! Huge help
@Joshua Gunther now I'm using two solid nd filter B+W (3 and 6 tops). Great quality, but pain in the ass to change filter frequently for videos. I'm considering get a freewell 2-5 to change less during the shooting, and I'll keep my solid 6 stops for few footages and photos. Let's see if it's gonna work. Kind regards
Very nice intro sequence. Great video. Thanks.
Excellent review! I've had the freewell in my cart at B&H for some time now. I'm just waiting for them to be in stock then i'm pulling the trigger. Thanks for helping me make up my mind.
My pleasure!!
Cheers mate, very useful and thorough test. That helped me make a decision.
Just ordered the freewell
Noice!!
Awesome review! I’m really glad that I stumbled upon this
Glad it helped you!
Respect man! Love your honest review, helped a lot!
Thanks for being thorough! I'm going with the Freewells.
After waiting a couple weeks for this review I still can't be disappointed with the outcome even if it wasn't the one I wanted to hear. The reason why I'm so for the Moment VND is because Aesthetic mainly, haha. Also I have a serious brand loyalty problem since I currently use Moment filters for my Drone and was looking to upgrade my current VND I own. The moment is still within my budget range and I am hoping I don't regret the purchase even if it didn't come out as high :/
Haha they’re still great!!
Glad you made this comparison, results were surprising 😳
Definitely not what I expected.
Dunna Did It I know right, glad you made this comparison I didn’t foresee anyone else making it.
Lui Aviles 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Just got my Freewell NDs today. Now they come in cheap metal boxes which are a pain to open. Cross Polarization effect is also stronger than in test images. I don't see 4, 5 and 9 stops as usable.
The polar pro 6-9 was clearly the best as long as you are not going super wide. Colour shift was almost zero. So if you need that much (high iso log shooting) probably best to go for that.
Variable ND filters basically work make making the polarization angle between each glass piece more and more cross, but those dark spots appear because the polarization direction does not remain uniform throughout the glass, probably due to limits in the tolerance of the manufacturing.
Thanks for the comps.
Thanks man! This helped a lot. Gotta get that Freewell ND!
Thanks for the video! I will go for the Freewell one :)
I used freewell since first day they released, really good for the price and quality.
Super solid right!?
Yes in my opinion!
your intro was sooo smooooooth.. I subscribed
Thanks!!
This is the EXACT video I was looking for. THANK YOU Dunna Did It!!! ❤😎👌
My pleasure!
Very useful and helpful , thanks for posting
Thanks for watching!!
Great info! I would like to see a video with real world situations with people and other objects. See if skins tones look good.
Cool! That was something I wanted to do in this one too but quickly realized it was already going to be 20+ min long lol. Maybe I’ll do some more videos comparing more real life examples.
@@dunnadidit This was my thought as well. Even when shooting neutral on the A7III I notice a slight green cast that always needs to be corrected. I was actually wondering if the cast from any of the VND's would correct the skin tones in camera. I currently use breakthrough photography filters, who don't make a VND last I checked.
Hi, thanks for this great comparison. I really adore the magnetic cap from freewell. The price is also great. My issue is that the range i would like is around 4-8 stops for outdoor. Just between the 2 filters. One question : is there the neutral position on the Freewell 6-9 stops filter ? I understood it exists on the 2-5 stops version.
Thanks for the thorough review on the variable ND. I’d definitely keep Freewell in mind. However, was wondering if you could do some reviews on the square(100mm) filters. I like them for the soft gradients.
Thanks for the suggestion Chris! I’ll keep it in mind for sure!
Great! Thanks from a world traveller!!!
Variable ND Would definitely be helpful in your case then!
Always good videos as always, what tripod do you use in that video?
Thanks Dunna ! Love the video
Thanks for watching!
great video, waiting for your moment vs polarpro iphone vnd filters review!
You might be waiting a while, I’m not much of a mobile photo/video accessories user.
Thanks! 🙏 Another great video!!👏👏👍Made my decision easy! Can those Freewells be used with step up rings? 🤔
Yup! In the video I mentioned that I was using a 67-77mm step up ring to shoot all the test shots. And actually, I highly recommend the freewell step up rings too as they are the thinnest step ups I could find.
Thanks for the review. Very informative. I just wonder how they all perform in the harsh sunlight on a bad angles.
What do you mean by bad angles?
@@dunnadidit usually they loose saturation when you turn them about 90° from sunlight. DSLR video shooter done a video about it.
Ah yes, that would have to do with the polarization like we saw in my tests, it may vary a little outside though! Thanks for the suggestion, if I can sneak that in another video i will!
These are all relatively expensive filters and I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them.
If I had an unlimited budget and was a more experienced videographer, I’d definitely go with the Polarpro or most expensive option. I think the benefit of going with the most expensive (and best) option is you don’t have any second doubts or worries after you purchase them with the amount of thought, features and approval behind the PM edition filters. Almost like a “set it and forget it” mentality.
But on the other hand, I think if you’re very limited in budget and you’re only using the kit lens on your camera-there’s nothing wrong about going with a $25-50 filter as that filter will marginally improve your shots with minimum investment. A win-win situation.
As for me, I’m planning to start my own channel and having just purchased a mirrorless (m50) let alone my first camera I went with the Freewell NDs to pair with my new Sigma lens. Price point and quality all checked out from the very little and early reviews. After using the filter for a month that purchase did not disappoint. I like to keep my aperture at the lowest and this just does that without noticeable lost in image quality. Very happy with these even though it doesn’t have the “coolness” factor nor the endorsement of PM, which says a lot about the bang for your buck that you get with these.
I think that there is a limit to that though. I’ve had some cheap VNDs before and they actually made my image worse. Color shift, vignetting, cross polarization etc. so sometimes going with the cheap option might actually hurt you more than waiting. Luckily, the freewells are super high quality and not expensive at all in the grand scheme of variable Nd filters.
Dunna Did It completely agree! Thank you Dunna for these in-depth reviews as it helps a ton for us viewers in deciding what to buy. You guys do a lot for us and I don’t want that to go unnoticed.
sbdunks 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻😁
Thanks a lot, great work !
Thanks for watching!
Once Polarpro make non-PM brand VNDs I’ll probably buy them. You’re just paying extra cause his name is on it.
But how is this possible, i mean, if its over, why not putting the markers on a spot behind? so it would match a correct stop
Great review - exactly what I needed, thank you! Freewell it is :-)
Thanks so much for the fine video. Will really help me decide what to buy. Separate question, what L-bracket and then clamp are you using that you have mounted on the fluid head?
It’s a smallrig l bracket I believe and I just found an arca Swiss mount that I could throw on my tripod.
You might want to take a look at the tyfoto vari-nd filters(mytyfoto.com). I've been using them for a while 82mm 2-8stops is $69,- According to some reviews and testers they use the same glass as the more expensive b+w MCR filters. They also seem to ship directly from the factory so same idea as Freewell.
those filters are completely crap I purchase & return them full of X big no.
@@HITESHGG do you mind to elaborate what is crap about them ?
@@john-5959 Mentioned above
Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll look into them
Great stuff! For video shooting, what would you prefer image-wise if 1) you corrected the color cast before you shot and 2) were shooting at 24mm ?
I am using the Polar Pro/Peter McKinnon 2-5 stops. Have you ever done a test with vertical and horizontal images. I am noticing a hugh color shift from vertical to horizontal. Would there be a better filter option that would not do the color shift at much.
Hey Dunna, what about Moment filter now since they are 50$ cheaper?
It all depends on what you need and what your budget is! I’d personally probably still go freewell
@@dunnadidit thank you so much! I am scratching my head right now, because all of them are pretty close. I kind of want to go Moment anyway, because of the design 😅 still thank you for your opiniom and great in depth review of all 3! You are best! Btw. Did you stayed with a7iii or went with a7C? 😃
Hi! So it looks like the cross polarization is pretty big problem for wide angle lenses and variable ND filters in general. If we wanted to use a wide angle lens with an ND filter, should we get a fixed ND filter then? I'm definitely leaning towards the Freewell ND filters, but wondering if should just get the freewell magnetic fixed filters to avoid this problem if we want to vlog on the wide lenses.
That’s definitely a route you could take! The freewell magnetic filters are great for that because they’re still nice and quick to change.
Does the Freewell's come with the magnetic lens cap? I couldn't tell from the video....lol
Yup! Although if you get the pack of both, they only come with one lens cap.
I know I'm a bit late on commenting on this video, but have you tested any of the filters when it comes to flares? I have a older VND (Genus) that gives a ugly blue cast whenever it gets a flare when shooting outdoors. It is super annoying and is not easy to fix in post.
Interesting! I didn't test them for flares. I've never had any odd issues with any of them though.
Why not SLR Magic? they are well known for being the best for almost no colour caste whatsoever and they cost less than those polar pro weird gold things. Any reason why these are being ignored?
Honestly, I didn’t even know they made variable nd’s until someone mentioned them in a comment. I guess they aren’t as well known as you think! But I’d love to try them out in the future.
Lens caps fit within Moment ND filters.
Yup! Learned that too late lol, I’ve left a little disclaimer in the discription.
Do you know if the color cast caused by a VND varies with the number of stops? In other words, is the color cast the same at 2 Stops as it is at 5 stops. If so, I could create a node in Davinci Resolve to offset the cast for a specific ND filter and simply use it every time. However, if the cast changes depending upon the number of stops then the benefits of such a node would be less.
Hey. Would it make a difference to set the white balance AFTER putting on the filter in terms of the color cast? Could this mitigate the effects of the Moment or Freewell filters?
YES! Always do this if you can! The only reason I didn’t in the video is just to show the color cast. But you definitely want to fix your white balance before you shoot
Would it be a good Idea to buy a step up ring to the maximun diameter (82mm) so I can have a one size fits all type of approach?.
I would only need to buy one size filters for all my lenses makes senses?
That’s exactly what I suggest! Step up rings for every lens is a lot cheaper than filters for every lens.
Well... when its time to upgrade my variable nd filters I know what I am getting now. I wonder how these would look with a vintage lens. I shoot mostly on my Great Grandfather's lenses adapted to a Sony a6000. Probably gonna pick up an autofocus lens like the sigma 16mm or something though before I upgrade my filters.
Nice! The effect should be the same with any lens. Maybe less of the cross polarization with more zoomed in lenses though.
Hi Dunna, Aaron here. Appreciate the meticulous tests! May I ask the cross polarization for Freewell happens at 16mm focal length and below, does this applies for full frame focal length ?
And which a focal length you tested for your end that it has cross polarization?
Which if any of these can you use a lens hood with?
May I have the correct reference for the Freeweel, please??????
I’m not sure what you mean?
@@dunnadidit the link goes to Amazon but not an a specific model!
There are no 2-5 stop filters at the moment in stock
And you come out with this vid right after I get the moment lol. Good video though 👌
Haha the moment is still great!
Hi do you recommend Variable nd filter with the the same size of the lens or larger with a ring?
As someone who does manufacturing, I can say without any hesitation, a not so insignificant part of the cost of the PolarPro is that packaging. Geez! Put it in a much more simple box and charge people less. Sure, the packaging needs to convey a sense of quality. But, I really believe some manufacturers are going overboard in an effort to placate "box snobs".
And for those of you "box snobs" that like all the superfluous foil-embossed world map graphics on the box, yeah. That'll get you better photos and videos.
Do you know if there any V nd's that go down to 0 stops, kind of like an on and off feature?
At the least, you should have switched your pip so we can see you in the small window, or you could have just done a voice over.
Hey Dunna, do you have any links (Canadian) for the step up ring as well 😅 ?
Unfortunately it seems like they aren't on most of my Canadian sources. This is the best I can do for you! (they're affiliate links).
Amazon: geni.us/iY0YO
B&H: bhpho.to/2w3Zxq8
@@dunnadidit thanks! Hard to shop for camera gear when you're Canadian 😅😂
Oh I know that too well. We get it later or we don't get it at all sometimes.
hey dunna,
my biggest pet peeve in nd filters is that they always seem to get little micro scratches after a while of having them
i dont think this quesitonw as answered but are these 3 nd filters scratch proof?
All of them have some sort of scratch resistance!
Could you do same with CPL filter ?
Dunna do you have Canadian referral links?
Yeah those step up rings can really ruin the accuracy of the picture. Can you do a test without them please?
Unfortunately the wide angle lenses that I have need step rings in order to test the filters on. That said, using step rings is a pretty real life situation anyway so the tests are still quite useful. Generally, step rings will only introduce vignetting as an issue, but in this case, none of the lenses suffered from severe vignetting with the filters so I don’t think the step rings were causing problems anyway.
U da Man
Thanxz
Polarpro’s customer service is really bad….I’d rather go with freewell. Paying that amount of money, you don’t get an exceptional filter while a bad customer service. What can be worse?
No Simmod VND ?
Not this time!
Did you just commented to everyone?
I try my best to answer as many as I can!
The moment VND is designed specifically to allow you to use your lens cap - that's why it's so big. Works perfectly with my cap for my Canon 24-70 f2.8. I have the moment 2-5 stop, and the picture quality is GREAT. They boast no vignetting down to a 16 mm focal length, but I don't have a wide enough lens to prove of explore that. The case is cool, but it is pretty annoying to have to unscrew every time. Great review man!
Oh interesting! Testing now...Okay, I see this. Thats kind of neat! I'll make a little update in the description! Thanks for sharing. I agree that the quality is good, I didn't see any vignetting on any of these filters down at 17mm but the cross polarization is a real problem on all of them still. If it weren't for the freewell filters being even less expensive and better performing, I'd probably be more inclined so suggest the moment filters to people looking for a cheaper option than the polarpro.
Not gonna lie, you just talked me into getting Freewells
Links in the description 😉😜
@@dunnadidit but which one is good for daylight vlogging? 2-5 or 6-9?
If your lens is f2.8 or wider and you might want the 6-9.
@@dunnadidit thank you, I'm shooting on the sony 16 to 35 f4
Rios Family the 2-5 might be the right choice then.
Hey Dunna,
SPOT ON, One more thing Freewell is the only manufacture among 3 of them we have our own production facility so we can offer reasonable prices without sacrificing on quality.
Thanks
Thats great info! Thanks so much for making an awesome product at an awesome price!
that's why I just bought a Freewell 2-filter vnd set :)
@@Frankvillage720 how are those filters? most of the Freewell review I can find seems to got theirs free from Freewell. I want a more unbiased review.
@@MangZhu
Freewell is killing it with all their filters. I've got (and recommend) the 2-5vnd, 6-9vnd, cpl, and light pollution. If they had taken out mist-like filters before Moment did their Cinebloom, I would've probably gotten those too.
But your customer service is horrific and that's just as important especially when you're charging people $100 + per filter. Thought I'd buy a freewell after watcching this video but its clearly cheaper for all the wrong reasons
Just cancelled my Polarpro and ordered the Freewell.
Glad to see how well the Freewell stand up towards the PPVND. If PolarPro would just offer a non-signature series option, id be all over it. Nice work on this!
The Freewells appeal to my frugal side and well, 🧲 magnets 🧲 The Moments are nice too, the PM polar pros are so far outside my budget that they aren’t even an option. Thanks for the comparison! :)
Haha MAGNETTTSSS!!! glad the video was helpful Jason!
Thank you for these very thorough tests and comparisons. From start to conclusion the Freewells stood out.
It's 2020, who needs all the overdone packaging.
Thanks for the kind words about the video!
Definitely helpful! Thank you for your detailed approach! As much as I like Peter, I think the Freewell is the way I'll be going.
Cheers! Glad to hear it was helpful!
Freewell sounds like the way to go, thx
Highly Recommended!
Since I'm poor, I'm still using the neewer ND filters. *Sad noises
You gotta use what you can!
I'm right there with you. Im using some Promaster variable nd filters since they are like the middle tier and since I am in college I got a discount on them. All these filters are still way out of what I can afford
I’m with you
neewer filters are very good, really. For that price is the best you can grab... it can compete with some medium-high quality filters too.
Hahaha sell your other toys kc.