Don, Ok so the 10 horns try to put down the lamb but are overcomed by the lamb Lord of Lords Christ, and then later they are used by God to hate the harlot and set her on fire....is that right?
Thank you Don, I’m glad you are feeling better! The partnership of persecution between Babylon and the Beast, there being a clear delineation between Babylon and the Beast, goes much deeper than at first glance: 1) Babylon, “the great harlot woman, who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed acts of immorality, and those who dwell on the earth were made drunk with the wine of her immorality”, the unfaithful bride who broke the Old Marriage Covenant with her Husband Yahuah, is the Old Covenant City of JERUSALEM. “And the woman whom you saw is the great CITY which reigns over the kings of the earth.” Rev 17 2) The “scarlet Beast full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns”, that carries Babylon (Jerusalem) - upon which Babylon sits - is ROME. At the appointed time, “the Beast (Rome) will hate the harlot (Jerusalem) and “will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh, and will burn her up with fire. For GOD has put it in their hearts to execute His Purpose…” Rev 17 The Scriptures and the historical facts prove an early writing of the Book of Revelation, written before AD 70, and the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple, and the shattering of the power of the apostate Old Covenant people Israel.
10 And he said to me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. 11 Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy." (Revelation 22:10, ESV) Don should we go by this rule after 70ad let filthy be filthy let evildoer still do evil ? Or are we supposed to convert them to christianity . ?
@@ophiuchus9071were not supposed to confess jesus to people after the end let them be as is your breaking your own eschatology peri dime its all over nobody should or will be saved after the end let the sinner stay a sinner stop abusing scripture it’s all over according to FP so your grasping on broken straws you cant have it both ways 😅
@@Bluelight445You only look for faults behind every bush. Time was finally up for the wicked, evil, filthy, unsanctified Jews who were steadfastly refusing to enter into the New Jerusalem, i.e. the New Covenant. So... destruction was virtually upon them just as it happened in Noah's days when they missed the boat.
@@TexasCoffeeBreak777 20 "And a Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who turn from transgression," declares the LORD. 21 "And as for me, this is my covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit that is upon you, and my words that I have put in your mouth, shall not depart out of your mouth, or out of the mouth of your offspring, or out of the mouth of your children's offspring," says the LORD, "from this time forth and forevermore." (Isaiah 59:20, ESV) this verse dosnt allow grafting in 😅 you have to be physical offspring of the remnant 😅🎉
@risen3818 plainly says it. We must be the offspring of the real seed of Jacob. After all, Greeks were of Abraham's seed too. Julius Ceasar was an Israelite too.
I found this under Domitian:The Second Persecution, Under Domitian, A.D. 81 The emperor Domitian, who was naturally inclined to cruelty, first slew his brother, and then raised the second persecution against the Christians. In his rage he put to death some of the Roman senators, some through malice; and others to confiscate their estates. He then commanded all the lineage of David be put to death. Among the numerous martyrs that suffered during this persecution was Simeon, bishop of Jerusalem, who was crucified; and St. John, who was boiled in oil, and afterward banished to Patmos. Flavia, the daughter of a Roman senator, was likewise banished to Pontus; and a law was made, "That no Christian, once brought before the tribunal, should be exempted from punishment without renouncing his religion." A variety of fabricated tales were, during this reign, composed in order to injure the Christians. Such was the infatuation of the pagans, that, if famine, pestilence, or earthquakes afflicted any of the Roman provinces, it was laid upon the Christians. These persecutions among the Christians increased the number of informers and many, for the sake of gain, swore away the lives of the innocent. Another hardship was, that, when any Christians were brought before the magistrates, a test oath was proposed, when, if they refused to take it, death was pronounced against them; and if they confessed themselves Christians, the sentence was the same. The following were the most remarkable among the numerous martyrs who suffered during this persecution. Dionysius, the Areopagite, was an Athenian by birth, and educated in all the useful and ornamental literature of Greece. He then travelled to Egypt to study astronomy, and made very particular observations on the great and supernatural eclipse, which happened at the time of our Savior's crucifixion. The sanctity of his conversation and the purity of his manners recommended him so strongly to the Christians in general, that he was appointed bishop of Athens. Nicodemus, a benevolent Christian of some distinction, suffered at Rome during the rage of Domitian's persecution. Protasius and Gervasius were martyred at Milan. Timothy was the celebrated disciple of St. Paul, and bishop of Ephesus, where he zealously governed the Church until A.D. 97. At this period, as the pagans were about to celebrate a feast called Catagogion, Timothy, meeting the procession, severely reproved them for their ridiculous idolatry, which so exasperated the people that they fell upon him with their clubs, and beat him in so dreadful a manner that he expired of the bruises two days later.
Some authorities-- older ones, or those -- did accuse Domitian of persecuting the church. The article you cite actually contains some known historical errors. However, more modern scholars say such things as the ones I cited (which you ignored): The Alleged Persecution of Roman Christians by Domitian, Ken Laffer, Doctoral Thesis, Edith Cowan University, 2005; Recommended citation: Laffer, K. (2005).The alleged persecution of the Roman Christians by the emperor Domitian. Retrieved from ro.ecu.edu.au/ theses/639. “Early attempts to use archeology to prove that certain Christian individuals were involved in the alleged persecution have, in recent times, found to be, faulty and in need of correction. Improved assessments of dating techniques have effectively placed the key individuals outside the persecution time frame that could have involved Domitian. Revisionist historians have sought to rehabilitate Domitian's place in history and their efforts have provided a credible alternative to long standing accounts from traditionalist historians. It is extremely likely that Domitian was not as bad as he has been portrayed and that he did not persecute Roman Christians at any time during his troubled rule.” Also,: David Aune on Domitianic Persecution - regarding Domitian and Nero: “The sporadic persecution of Christians under Domitian can hardly be responsible for Revelation’s repeated references to the suffering of the believers and its vigilant war ideology. These features are more easily understood if the author was a personal witness to the fate of Jewish Christians in Judea during the great revolt and had close information on the persecution of Christians by Nero” (Revelation, p. 273). These kinds of citations can be multiplied many times over.
@9:56 Rome walked in the same ancient pagan rituals as did the ancient pagan nations around them using the ancient Hebrew writings to retool their image from Mithras to Xmas aka Christianity. The woman on the beast just represents false spiritual worship. The beast just represents force or authority used to push the woman or false spiritual worship. Rome today via the Vatican is the head of the Christian body through spiritual wickedness Rev13:1-8 taking down not just Islam and Judaism but all of Christianity with it (2Th2:4v8-12). Come Out Of Her My People Rev18:4-5, 17:1-5, 16:13, 14:8-11
There is a great deal wrong with your comment. But in short, Babylon has nothing whatsoever to do with the RCC. Revelation 16:6 accused Babylon of killing the prophets. Throughout scriptures, when the term "prophet" "the prophets" or prophets, is used without a contextual qualifier, it is invariable a reference to OT prophets. There is no qualifier in chapter 16. That means that Babylon killed OT prophets. The RCC never did that. Babylon is where the Lord was slain. Jesus accused Jerusalem- not Rome or the RCC of killing the OT prophets, and the apostles and prophets that he sent. Jesus said that Jerusalem was the city that was going to fill the measure of her sin-- the sin of killing the saints-- in the first century- and the sin of Babylon was full when John wrote. Neither Rome or the RCC was going to be destroyed, very soon, shortly and quickly from the time John wrote.
@@bettyh7310 Actually I have stated my position on this countless times. Babylon in Revelation was Old Covenant Jerusalem. She was the city: That killed the OT prohets. That is where the Lord was crucified. That killed the apostles and prophets. Whose cup of guilt (for those bloody crimes) was full when John wrote. Who was about to be destroyed very soon when John wrote.
Don, glad you are feeling better. Are you sure Rome was the city on 7 hills, or do you mean the 7 hills themselves as Rome? Big difference between sitting on the 7 hills vs the 7 hills themselves. The harlot was to sit on those 7 hills. So we can’t have the harlot sitting on herself. So they have to be two separate entities. The harlot I believe, clothed in purple, were the high priests of Jerusalem. They committed spiritual fornification when they rejected their husband, Christ, by referring to their king as Caesar and away with Christ. They were leaning (sitting) on Rome to go after the Christian’s.
7 hills are 7 kings: Julius Augustus Tiberius Caligula Nero Vespasian The 8th head that is of the 7 is Titus. The 10 horns are the 7 kings plus 3 horns that fell/were subdued: Galba Otho Vitellius The little horn that rose after is again Titus. It’s not that hard. The woman sits here because she rides it. If you ride something you’re sat upon it. The woman being the harlot. Old covenant Israel. Mystery Babylon the great was Jerusalem. The high priests were clothed in purple and scarlet and held golden cups. Titus was more stout (fat) than his fellows. Look at paintings and statues of Titus. Vespasian continued a short space because he departed Jerusalem after only a few months as he returned to Rome to stabilise the empire from its collapse when Nero killed himself. The deadly wound. Titus led the siege and destruction of Jerusalem. The falling away = rebellion or revolt. The Jewish revolt which led to the great tribulation. The day of Christ could not occur til this revolt happened first. Titus led the kings of the east his 4 angels (legions) of armies stationed at Euphrates to that great battle. Legio XV Appollionairis. Locusts live up to 5 months. They array in battle formations. That’s why his armies were compared to locusts in a 5 month seige. They wore lion pelts and helmets. Their stings in their tails were Roman ballistas. The beast is the 1st beast of revelation. From the sea (gentiles). Same as the 4th beast of Daniel. The 2nd beast of revelation 13 from the earth (nation) was israel and it was this beast, not the Roman, that was destroyed and cast into the lake.
@@dannyg2311 Thanks, I agree with most of what you mentioned. I think I disagree however the 10 horns. They can't contain anyone who was a beast per revelation 17:13 (Nero and Titus for example). I believe they were the 10 kings at the time; 1 Joseph b. Gorion 2 Ananus II 3 Jesus b. Sapphias 4 Eleazar b. Ananias 5. Niger 6. Joseph b. Simon 7. Manasseh 8. John the Essene 9. John b. Matthias (or son of Ananias?) 10. Josephus b. Matthias #4 Eleazar b. Ananias was the lawless one btw, who was governor of the temple at the time. He was revealed on August 14, AD66, the day his dad died (restrainer) and the day he announced no more sacrifices for Caesar. The next day was the start of the Daniel 12:12 1335 day prophesy (that day was the festival of Xylophory, where they wore white robes, and were allowed to intermarry amongst the tribes of Israel, but the saved chose Christ instead). That last day of the 1335 days was the day Josephus caught them fleeing from the temple (April 10, AD70). This was when Jerusalem was completely surrounded by armies of Titus. The next day was the start of the 1260 days of Revelation 12:6. They (stick of Judah) had left for Petra, which stick of Joseph already prepared a place for them (fulfilling John 14). Their last day of their gathering was September 22, AD73. This was the day 1 Thessalonians 4 was fulfilled. The day after was the 40th anniversary of Acts 10 per Hebraic calendar (Tishri 6). The 5 month siege was under Titus, from April to August AD70. The claim by Eusebius, they fled to Pella, is false btw. Also the claim by Eusebius they left before the war is blatantly false (does not fit with what Jesus mentioned in the Olivet Discourse). Eusebius is not a reliable source, and I believe he rewrote history to centralize power around Rome, thus the birth of the Roman Catholic church. Many bright scholars have been fooled by Eusebius. Also, this is not easy. If it was easy it would make our Lord a bad shepherd. The reason this is not easy, is because God was protecting His bride for their gathering. They had to leave quietly so the persecutions would not follow them.
I don't know how any scholar can conclude that Babylon equals Rome. When Babylon goes up in smoke, it says "The voice of bridegroom and bride will not be heard in you anymore." There's just no way that can be a reference to pagan Rome, which never had a marriage covenant with God.
Don, Ok so the 10 horns try to put down the lamb but are overcomed by the lamb Lord of Lords Christ, and then later they are used by God to hate the harlot and set her on fire....is that right?
the ten Commandments are the ten horns. (the authority of the law)
@nathanlidgett5688 no that doesn't make sense.
@joshuad4260 thanks Joshua 😊 I really need help in Revelation. I haven't studied it in depth as I have and do other Bible writings (books).
@@joshuad4260Amen!!!!!
@@joshuad4260 yes yes yess yes 👍 🤩
The Talmud in Gittin 56a mentions Nero converting, which really adds perspective to as to why Nero blamed Christians for the fire and persecuted them.
Rome is depicted as the one world gov aka the 4th beast according to Daniel's interpretation of Nebuchanezzar's dream Dan 2:20-22, v39-44, 7:7 v21-25
Hello Don
Thank you Don, I’m glad you are feeling better!
The partnership of persecution between
Babylon and the Beast,
there being a clear delineation
between Babylon and
the Beast,
goes much deeper than at first glance:
1) Babylon,
“the great harlot woman,
who sits on many waters,
with whom the
kings of the earth
committed
acts of immorality,
and those who
dwell on the earth
were made drunk
with the
wine of her immorality”,
the unfaithful bride
who broke the Old Marriage Covenant
with her
Husband Yahuah,
is
the Old Covenant City of JERUSALEM.
“And the woman
whom you saw is the
great CITY
which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
Rev 17
2) The “scarlet Beast
full of blasphemous names,
having seven heads and ten horns”,
that carries
Babylon
(Jerusalem) -
upon which
Babylon sits -
is ROME.
At the appointed time, “the Beast
(Rome)
will hate the harlot
(Jerusalem)
and “will make her desolate and naked,
and will eat her flesh,
and will burn her up with fire. For GOD has put it in their hearts to execute
His Purpose…”
Rev 17
The Scriptures and the historical facts prove an early writing of the
Book of Revelation,
written before AD 70,
and the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple,
and the shattering of
the power of the apostate Old Covenant people Israel.
I had check 2 times it's Thursday
10 And he said to me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near.
11 Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy." (Revelation 22:10, ESV) Don should we go by this rule after 70ad let filthy be filthy let evildoer still do evil ? Or are we supposed to convert them to christianity . ?
@@ophiuchus9071so your answer is no we should let evil be evil filthy be filthy right?
@@ophiuchus9071were not supposed to confess jesus to people after the end let them be as is your breaking your own eschatology peri dime its all over nobody should or will be saved after the end let the sinner stay a sinner stop abusing scripture it’s all over according to FP so your grasping on broken straws you cant have it both ways 😅
@@Bluelight445You only look for faults behind every bush.
Time was finally up for the wicked, evil, filthy, unsanctified Jews who were steadfastly refusing to enter into the New Jerusalem, i.e. the New Covenant.
So... destruction was virtually upon them just as it happened in Noah's days when they missed the boat.
@@TexasCoffeeBreak777 20 "And a Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who turn from transgression," declares the LORD.
21 "And as for me, this is my covenant with them," says the LORD: "My Spirit that is upon you, and my words that I have put in your mouth, shall not depart out of your mouth, or out of the mouth of your offspring, or out of the mouth of your children's offspring," says the LORD, "from this time forth and forevermore." (Isaiah 59:20, ESV) this verse dosnt allow grafting in 😅 you have to be physical offspring of the remnant 😅🎉
@risen3818 plainly says it. We must be the offspring of the real seed of Jacob. After all, Greeks were of Abraham's seed too. Julius Ceasar was an Israelite too.
I found this under Domitian:The Second Persecution, Under Domitian, A.D. 81
The emperor Domitian, who was naturally inclined to cruelty, first slew his brother, and then raised the second persecution against the Christians. In his rage he put to death some of the Roman senators, some through malice; and others to confiscate their estates. He then commanded all the lineage of David be put to death.
Among the numerous martyrs that suffered during this persecution was Simeon, bishop of Jerusalem, who was crucified; and St. John, who was boiled in oil, and afterward banished to Patmos. Flavia, the daughter of a Roman senator, was likewise banished to Pontus; and a law was made, "That no Christian, once brought before the tribunal, should be exempted from punishment without renouncing his religion."
A variety of fabricated tales were, during this reign, composed in order to injure the Christians. Such was the infatuation of the pagans, that, if famine, pestilence, or earthquakes afflicted any of the Roman provinces, it was laid upon the Christians. These persecutions among the Christians increased the number of informers and many, for the sake of gain, swore away the lives of the innocent.
Another hardship was, that, when any Christians were brought before the magistrates, a test oath was proposed, when, if they refused to take it, death was pronounced against them; and if they confessed themselves Christians, the sentence was the same.
The following were the most remarkable among the numerous martyrs who suffered during this persecution.
Dionysius, the Areopagite, was an Athenian by birth, and educated in all the useful and ornamental literature of Greece. He then travelled to Egypt to study astronomy, and made very particular observations on the great and supernatural eclipse, which happened at the time of our Savior's crucifixion.
The sanctity of his conversation and the purity of his manners recommended him so strongly to the Christians in general, that he was appointed bishop of Athens.
Nicodemus, a benevolent Christian of some distinction, suffered at Rome during the rage of Domitian's persecution.
Protasius and Gervasius were martyred at Milan.
Timothy was the celebrated disciple of St. Paul, and bishop of Ephesus, where he zealously governed the Church until A.D. 97. At this period, as the pagans were about to celebrate a feast called Catagogion, Timothy, meeting the procession, severely reproved them for their ridiculous idolatry, which so exasperated the people that they fell upon him with their clubs, and beat him in so dreadful a manner that he expired of the bruises two days later.
Some authorities-- older ones, or those -- did accuse Domitian of persecuting the church. The article you cite actually contains some known historical errors.
However, more modern scholars say such things as the ones I cited (which you ignored):
The Alleged Persecution of Roman Christians by Domitian, Ken Laffer, Doctoral Thesis, Edith Cowan University, 2005; Recommended citation: Laffer, K. (2005).The alleged persecution of the Roman Christians by the emperor Domitian. Retrieved from ro.ecu.edu.au/
theses/639.
“Early attempts to use archeology to prove that certain Christian individuals were involved in the alleged persecution have, in recent times, found to be, faulty and in need of correction. Improved assessments of dating techniques have effectively placed the key individuals outside the persecution time frame that could have involved Domitian.
Revisionist historians have sought to rehabilitate Domitian's place in history and their efforts have provided a credible alternative to long standing accounts from traditionalist historians. It is extremely likely that Domitian was not as bad as he has been portrayed and that he did not persecute Roman Christians at any time during his troubled rule.”
Also,:
David Aune on Domitianic Persecution - regarding Domitian and Nero:
“The sporadic persecution of Christians under Domitian can hardly be responsible for Revelation’s repeated references to the suffering of the believers and its vigilant war ideology. These features are more easily understood if the author was a personal witness to the fate of Jewish Christians in Judea during the great revolt and had close information on the persecution of Christians by Nero” (Revelation, p. 273).
These kinds of citations can be multiplied many times over.
Lambert is a coward, always was and always will be. He will never interview anyone who can defend the gospel.
@9:56 Rome walked in the same ancient pagan rituals as did the ancient pagan nations around them using the ancient Hebrew writings to retool their image from Mithras to Xmas aka Christianity. The woman on the beast just represents false spiritual worship. The beast just represents force or authority used to push the woman or false spiritual worship. Rome today via the Vatican is the head of the Christian body through spiritual wickedness Rev13:1-8 taking down not just Islam and Judaism but all of Christianity with it (2Th2:4v8-12). Come Out Of Her My People Rev18:4-5, 17:1-5, 16:13, 14:8-11
There is a great deal wrong with your comment. But in short, Babylon has nothing whatsoever to do with the RCC.
Revelation 16:6 accused Babylon of killing the prophets. Throughout scriptures, when the term "prophet" "the prophets" or prophets, is used without a contextual qualifier, it is invariable a reference to OT prophets. There is no qualifier in chapter 16. That means that Babylon killed OT prophets. The RCC never did that.
Babylon is where the Lord was slain.
Jesus accused Jerusalem- not Rome or the RCC of killing the OT prophets, and the apostles and prophets that he sent.
Jesus said that Jerusalem was the city that was going to fill the measure of her sin-- the sin of killing the saints-- in the first century- and the sin of Babylon was full when John wrote.
Neither Rome or the RCC was going to be destroyed, very soon, shortly and quickly from the time John wrote.
@@MrDonPreston You keep saying what Babylon is not. What does Babylon in the NT writings mean for you?
@@bettyh7310 Actually I have stated my position on this countless times. Babylon in Revelation was Old Covenant Jerusalem.
She was the city:
That killed the OT prohets.
That is where the Lord was crucified.
That killed the apostles and prophets.
Whose cup of guilt (for those bloody crimes) was full when John wrote.
Who was about to be destroyed very soon when John wrote.
Don, glad you are feeling better.
Are you sure Rome was the city on 7 hills, or do you mean the 7 hills themselves as Rome? Big difference between sitting on the 7 hills vs the 7 hills themselves. The harlot was to sit on those 7 hills. So we can’t have the harlot sitting on herself. So they have to be two separate entities.
The harlot I believe, clothed in purple, were the high priests of Jerusalem. They committed spiritual fornification when they rejected their husband, Christ, by referring to their king as Caesar and away with Christ. They were leaning (sitting) on Rome to go after the Christian’s.
This 👏🏽
I think both Rome and Jerusalem has 7 hills. Sea beast and land beast. Not sure if it could be both or referring to just one.
7 hills are 7 kings:
Julius
Augustus
Tiberius
Caligula
Nero
Vespasian
The 8th head that is of the 7 is Titus.
The 10 horns are the 7 kings plus 3 horns that fell/were subdued:
Galba
Otho
Vitellius
The little horn that rose after is again Titus.
It’s not that hard.
The woman sits here because she rides it.
If you ride something you’re sat upon it.
The woman being the harlot. Old covenant Israel.
Mystery Babylon the great was Jerusalem.
The high priests were clothed in purple and scarlet and held golden cups.
Titus was more stout (fat) than his fellows. Look at paintings and statues of Titus.
Vespasian continued a short space because he departed Jerusalem after only a few months as he returned to Rome to stabilise the empire from its collapse when Nero killed himself. The deadly wound.
Titus led the siege and destruction of Jerusalem.
The falling away = rebellion or revolt.
The Jewish revolt which led to the great tribulation.
The day of Christ could not occur til this revolt happened first.
Titus led the kings of the east his 4 angels (legions) of armies stationed at Euphrates to that great battle.
Legio XV Appollionairis.
Locusts live up to 5 months. They array in battle formations.
That’s why his armies were compared to locusts in a 5 month seige.
They wore lion pelts and helmets.
Their stings in their tails were Roman ballistas.
The beast is the 1st beast of revelation. From the sea (gentiles).
Same as the 4th beast of Daniel.
The 2nd beast of revelation 13 from the earth (nation) was israel and it was this beast, not the Roman, that was destroyed and cast into the lake.
@@dannyg2311 Very good stuff. I had forgotten the 7 hills represented 7 kings. You laid it out great.
@@dannyg2311 Thanks, I agree with most of what you mentioned. I think I disagree however the 10 horns. They can't contain anyone who was a beast per revelation 17:13 (Nero and Titus for example). I believe they were the 10 kings at the time;
1 Joseph b. Gorion
2 Ananus II
3 Jesus b. Sapphias
4 Eleazar b. Ananias
5. Niger
6. Joseph b. Simon
7. Manasseh
8. John the Essene
9. John b. Matthias (or son of Ananias?)
10. Josephus b. Matthias
#4 Eleazar b. Ananias was the lawless one btw, who was governor of the temple at the time. He was revealed on August 14, AD66, the day his dad died (restrainer) and the day he announced no more sacrifices for Caesar. The next day was the start of the Daniel 12:12 1335 day prophesy (that day was the festival of Xylophory, where they wore white robes, and were allowed to intermarry amongst the tribes of Israel, but the saved chose Christ instead). That last day of the 1335 days was the day Josephus caught them fleeing from the temple (April 10, AD70). This was when Jerusalem was completely surrounded by armies of Titus. The next day was the start of the 1260 days of Revelation 12:6. They (stick of Judah) had left for Petra, which stick of Joseph already prepared a place for them (fulfilling John 14). Their last day of their gathering was September 22, AD73. This was the day 1 Thessalonians 4 was fulfilled. The day after was the 40th anniversary of Acts 10 per Hebraic calendar (Tishri 6).
The 5 month siege was under Titus, from April to August AD70.
The claim by Eusebius, they fled to Pella, is false btw. Also the claim by Eusebius they left before the war is blatantly false (does not fit with what Jesus mentioned in the Olivet Discourse). Eusebius is not a reliable source, and I believe he rewrote history to centralize power around Rome, thus the birth of the Roman Catholic church. Many bright scholars have been fooled by Eusebius.
Also, this is not easy. If it was easy it would make our Lord a bad shepherd. The reason this is not easy, is because God was protecting His bride for their gathering. They had to leave quietly so the persecutions would not follow them.
Don, I'm so glad you are feeling better.
You’re coughing way less 👍
Good morning 😊
Good Job, easy to understand.
I don't know how any scholar can conclude that Babylon equals Rome. When Babylon goes up in smoke, it says "The voice of bridegroom and bride will not be heard in you anymore." There's just no way that can be a reference to pagan Rome, which never had a marriage covenant with God.