Rich Eisen: What Getting Another Shot to Start Would Mean for Russell Wilson | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Rich Eisen weighs in on Russell Wilson possibly regaining his starting quarterback job for the Steelers over Justin Fields.
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Steeler fan here. I want to see what Russ can do. I like Justin but need to see Russ in this offense.
Justin can be the Taysum Hill of the Steelers and have gadget plays. The way he runs and evades tackles they have to use him, I would hope.
Same. I also like Justin, and I think his full potential is yet to be seen, he's young and has time to grow. But as long as we have Russ, we should at least seem him play a game at least once.
@@dreebenny Taysum isn't a qb though. He's a swiss army knife with a little bit of throwing ability. Fields, for better or worse, is a qb. It isn't an apples to apples comparison to my mind. I think of the classic if you have 2 qbs you have none saying for this.
What if this curiosity of yours comes at the cost of losing Justin? Don't assume the experiment comes free of charge. You're dealing with people with big egos who strive to excel. Count your blessings at 4-2 with Justin as your QB that came at almost no cost. Most teams aren't that fortunate.
@@TroonRollo I did think of that. But then, Neither QB was here before. There isn't a long Steelers history of either. And both I think are, as they both have said, looking for team wins over anything. They both want to bring the best of what they can to the game. With the Steelers offense being a 'work in progress', it is not imho a bad thing to at least see how Russ does with that.of all weeks, this is the one to try. And Wilson is a no cost as much or even a bettr no cost that Fields. I do like Fields a lot, but given the state, meh, just for once try Russ.
Russ vs Rodger’s is always legendary. Gonna be a great game
I'm still in disbelief over that NFC Championship comeback against Green Bay. Wilson played his worst football of his life, followed by the best of his life. I'm afraid Seattle used up all the magic in the comeback, though.
If you know anything about the curse wheel, or the revenge dagger, or the blop 10. You know exactly how this is gonna go.
Ok Perna
It has not been a while. Russell Wilson had a passer rating of 98.0 with 3,070 yards, 26 touchdowns and 8 interceptions in 15 games in 2023.
Justin Fields has never average a 98.0 rating. Fields has never averaged 200 yards a game.
Has ever arranged what just does on feet yes . Qb has to be mobile it's his job don't tell me other wise then go argue alone on why the previous mvp is good with feet.
So explain to me why Denver ate some $85 million dollars to get rid of him? Those numbers do not tell the story.
He's in the same phase of his career that Rodgers is - still good, but no longer good enough to carry the team on his back. Wilson will do okay in Pittsburgh as long he doesn't have to try to put on the cape like he used to in Seattle.
15 games, 3070 yards, %66.4 comp, 28 TDs, 8 INTs, rating 98. Apparently this is what people think are the stats of a washed QB. Sean Payton got off the hook last season because everyone blamed Russ. Ok no Russ now in Denver, how's Paytons offense looking now. One of the worst in the league, if not the worst. Sean Payton has ironclad media protection, so none of them will bring this up, but it looks like Nate Hackett was terrible and Sean Payton was the washed one running an outdated offense.
Not to mention the fact Payton acted like a complete buffoon throwing a temper tantrum on the sidelines. Imagine what the media would have said if it was Russ acting like that?
A man who can't adjust to the personal he has and demands a hand picked puppet is a man who doesn't deserve to be a NFL head coach.
Russ played well. Sean should’ve stuck with him Broncos might be 4-2 5-1 who knows
Eh you’d really have to watch the games. He was elevated to those stats cause of the system he was in. It was frustrating to watch him either throw a 3 yard pass or 65 yard pass there was never any over the middle or medium game. It was wildly inconsistent. While he gave us a fun win streak it really fell apart. Bo nix is definitely our guy if you watch he’s looked really good at times
Just shows people read from box scores rathee than tape. Russ plays best in a run first offense. Why he dont get thw benefit of the doubt playing for nathanial hackett. He played fine for the broncos last year with no run game and limited weapons. Fields talen alone can make plays and win games but whats on the field is not an offense. We were also 4 and 2 laat year with pickett and it was all good until we started to lose with the same offense and it was fire oc every week. Our 3rd string came im and just made throws while we relied on our run game and we was so much better. Theee same media folks startes saying we should of made those changes SOONER.
@@jleaven2707 yeah definitely, Russ can succeed in Steelers system I think
How about the fact that the coach scrutinizes every play, practice and players every single day of the week and it's his evaluation and decision to make the best choice for the team. This isn't too complicated. No one commentating in the media has any more information to make the decision than Tomlin himself.
Steelers fan here, I want this. Fields hasn't thrown well. If we as a team can't throw we aren't winning anything. So lets try Russ. 4 and 2? Look at the schedule. If the Steelers weren't 6-2 or 7-1 going into the bye they had no shot with the 2nd half schedule. Try to see if Russ gives you a higher offensive ceiling these next two weeks so we know what we have before things get real
The problem is the evaluation of Wilson’s performance last season in Denver is incorrect and jaded 26 TD’s only 8 int’s ..the guy can still play
dude…. you’re only looking at the stat line. that doesn’t mean he was a great QB. most of those touchdowns came off of short fields created by turnovers from the DEFENSE. This type of comment is the same recycled brain dead take from someone who didnt actually watch film breaking down russ’s flaws. He created sacks constantly by holding the ball too long. Had a top 10 offensive line & still couldn’t get the ball out fast enough. He damn near led the league in holding the ball too long & HAVING THE MOST TIME TO THROW. he struggled making reads as a 10 year vet that a rookie would struggle with.
@@cloudboy2970that's what it's team sport one can't do it alone
@@cloudboy2970 steelers have a better D that forces more TOs. Russ is a better QB and thrower than fields and he sees the field better. Fields missed alot of open guys vs the raiders downfield. Plus the Broncos didn't have a good run game or true star No 1 WR. PIT has both
i would look at some other stats to get a better sense of his play last year. his epa was not good. the air yards per completion also pretty bad. maybe he can do something for the steelers, but just picking two favorable stats does not paint a complete picture. i say that having just picked two unfavorable stats i realize lol
@cloudboy2970 who cares if it's a short field it's still a td instead of a fg
Russell did play with BeastMode and a historic defense (and those entities lasted for years). I think part of Rich’s take was a strength.
those were only a few years. The years before Russ got there, That D & BeastMode were not good
@@scorpiofrancis1119 the Legion of boom was 2011 to 2018. Russell Wilson’s rookie season was 2012. I will give you the fact that Russell Wilson had his best statistical year in 2020 but since then that stock has been going down. So the argument that the Legion of boom was only a few years, and they were good before Russell Wilson got there is some CAP. You may have an argument with Marshawn Lynch. He was there only for a few years. However, the Seahawks have always had a very dominant run game throughout Russell Wilson’s duration there.
@@ReeseAnton21 The run game was dominant with Lynch, because Russ was also a runner. After Lynch, Pete was drafting RBs every other year, along with a horrible olines. Im saying they went good before Russ. They were a far better team with Russ. Are you not able to spell Lie? Or is CAP just a cool thing to say? HAHA
His stats and career QBR speaks for itself.
@@scorpiofrancis1119 I was trying to be cool, lol (or laugh out loud).
Watched Gruden's QB class interview Wilson coming out ofcollege and wanted the Steelers to get him. He was very QB smart coming our of college. Would love to see him shine in Black and Gold.
For Steelers fans who are upset about this because you’re 4-2 ask yourself if you think this team with Justin fields can win the Super Bowl. If the answer is yes, then I get being upset. If the answer is no, which is the more likely answer, then you might as well see if the offense can be better with Russ.
Don't say that out loud, Fields fans are delusional. They think he's elite and everyone who thinks otherwise is in danger😂😂😂😂
if you watched Russ the past few years and think you can win a Super Bowl with him, you are plain delusional
Russ ain’t winning a SB either🤣
@@seungholee4892 I don’t think you’re winning a Super Bowl with either lol. I’m just trynna help Steelers fans. However devils advocate we’ve at least seen tussle win a Super Bowl with our eyes. Fields however not happening.
@@iiRolltide I don't think anyone expects Fields to win a Super Bowl this year. I think that the majority of Fields supporters don't believe in Russ. the difference is that Fields is 26 and has elite physical tools. He has gotten better every year and they would rather see how far he can grow. They also see a steelers oline that has been decimated by injuries and aren't very good right now. Broderick Jones has apparently forgotten how to pass block and the line very rarely generates any forward push on run plays. The skill positions are lackluster at best, and before the season started with Russ as the projected starter many analysts predicted the steelers would have one of the worst offenses in football. It's more of a lack of trust in Russ.
I think Justin fields has been doing great with his touchdown to interception ratio. However, I think it's time to give Russell Wilson a chance to reignite his hall of fame career that he had with Seattle. He did have a couple of bad years in Denver, although he significantly improved his second year with the Broncos. So I think something that steelers, fans aren't mentioning enough is what what if Russ is just as good as Fields? That might be wishful thinking on my part, but honestly, consider the fact that Russell Wilson could still have that magic in him that he had with the Seahawks. Definitely fingers crossed about his performance on Sunday night at home against the Jets.
Sorry Rich, but as a Steelers fan, I'm excited to see what Russ can do on Sunday. Fields has done nothing but impress me with the way he has handled the first 6 games. And his attitude; the guy is a class act! But he's also missing open receivers consistently. The TD pass that was called back where he threw into a crowd but had crossed the line of scrimmage, Austin was wide open in the corner right in front of Fields, but he didn't see him. I think Russ can open up the passing game, he may not have Fields athleticism but even Fields can't outrun the distance and speed the ball can travel. So are we really losing a lot with Russ instead of Fields. Let's see.
It would be cool if the national media actually knew how well Russ and Justin get along. This isn’t a competition to them, it’s each one trying to make the other better.
It’s a dynamic not often seen.
A Russ / Justin dilemma
Is 10 times better than a KP/ Trubisky/ Rudolph one
Defense improved also especially on the back end
Being 4-2 and unimpressed with Justin fields’ ability to trust the process and make a throw down the field now is the time to see what we got in Russ. Perfect time. If he stinks we’re 4-3 and let’s ride fields the rest of the wayS
As a Seattle fan, I have nothing but good memories of Russ's time with the team. Granted, the end was a tad messy, but the years 2012-2020 were full of wild, crazy, exciting games as well as that wonderful beat down of the Broncos in the super bowl. It's a bit of a bummer to see father time catch up with him, but it's unavoidable in the NFL. If he can go out and just have a few more great games, I'd love to see that.
I would play them both like the 97-98 Steelers with O’Donnell and Slash.
Its hard to turn the clock back..but my biggest problem with it is our o-line is not good and Russ can't scramble like he used to..also WR room is pretty weak..it won't take long to see because then Jets defense is pretty good.. Coach's tape must show Justin leaving some plays on the field and maybe Russ can run the offense better!! IDK
Justin isn’t Big Ben. Most Steelers fans, me included, think it’s ok to bring Russell in the Field and perform.
I think we should stick with Fields
Sports bar full of Steelers last Sunday and no one wanted to see Russ
@@JJeffer2020 I think we should trust Tomlin. If he goes with Russell, fine. If he goes Justin, fine. It’s about winning.
My whole family are steeler fans and they want Justin to keep starting. I think you’re in the minority on this one.
I'm just glad that fans don't get to make decisions. Can you imagine...
People talking about the Bronco years. What is the first HC currently doing & the current Bronco offense is horrible
His battles with Kirk Cousins in college ball were awesome.
Russell Wilson rocks let's see what he could do Justin Fields is the future for the Steelers
its like the two seasons in Denver never happened. BUT Flacco? Darnold? Geno? ...
As a long long long time JETS fan, I will state either QB on the Steelers will beat the Jets
Yeah. it would be silly to not have Russ play at least one game. This weekend is the perfect time. The Browns and Bengals are playing not so great ball right now, and they have to play each other this weekend, Perfect time to see Russ at QB. At the very worse, he does horrible, and they get to 4-3.
As a Steelers fan I’m extremely excited to see Russ cook
What the Steelers are doing right now isn’t good enough. If Russ can’t make it better then so be it but we better find out.
The o-line is not built for a immobile qb...I'm going to need to see to believe
What I do think is funny about the stats don't tell the whole story people is they are now citing Justin's stats to justify why he shouldn't be resuming his QB2 status. If watching the game/film has more weight, why are they ignoring Justin's film and what we are seeing in games?
This should have been an overreaction this week: one of the great careers is getting ended this weekend (Rogers vs Wilson)
Rich is right here. Denver took a 53-million dollar cap hit on a "future HOF QB" because his 'cooking' was not up to par.
I'm excited to see Russ play again and I hope he does well. I think he got a bad rap and was really starting to turn the Broncos around. He might be rusty but they need to give him a chance.
Russ vs Fields is not a thing at all. The Steelers have 2 easy teams coming up. They want to see what they have before the Bye and maybe just moving forward. Justin is 1000000% the future. But as for a win now strategy, Russ is a question mark that they want to resolve.
On top of that, this is about development. Russ has so much to offer concerning wisdom and experience. That is what Justin needs and what the receivers need. Suck it up, buttercups.
Another piece of evidence that nobody thinks of Seattle teams outside the PNW... RW3 couldn't get outside the first round of the playoffs often. If they ended up winning (barely) they would get tossed in their 2nd game. After the LOB was dismantled Seattle didn't make a deep run
Russ played somewhere between the 10th - 15th best QB in the league last year, Fields is currently in that range, so on paper this seems like a push, I can't blame Tomlin for wanting to see if Russ looks better in this offence. If I had a potential HoF QB on my team I would at least want to kick the tires and see if it had 1 more run, especially if the floor is essentially what you're getting now.
Russ playing means Chris will STFU about NE for a minute, but Rich managed to get a Delicate Genius reference in no matter what. Sad.
How about that this is all smoke and mirrors by the Steelers, to make it more difficult for NY to scheme for?
OR Tomlin is just playing gamesmanship to force the Jets to prep for 2 QB's for Sunday. But, the sexier content is to talk about a QB Controversy in Pittsburgh. Got over 7 minutes out of it. 👏
O line isn’t playing consistent enough for Russ to go off. Keep fields, he had ONE bad game
Honest Question; If Russell Wilson capitulated and gave up the right to collect $FORTY - TWO MILLION to help relieve CAP space for the Broncos, does that NOT also mean he keeps the starting job in Denver…
Make it make sense; Because what other incentive is there for Wilson to do that…
🤔
I tell people all the time to look at Wilson's highlights from last season. Some people will say oh that's just cherry picking, but I did watch every game. No it wasn't as good as his Seattle years, but that's because the team in general was trash. The numbers don't lie and there's over 20 minutes of pretty amazing highlights from last year! And he didn't play the whole year...
Tomlin is playing mind games… Russell will not start on Sunday night!
In Russ we trust. Brace yourself it's going to be amazing
I know nobody wants to hear this, but the problems in the playoffs has been the defence.
Ok but we haven’t been “missing playoffs”
I DONT care what PEOPLE think. I care about what the HC thinks. And he isnt convinced.
If Steelers get 3-7 points a game out this its will be worth at least a win or two.
I would rather watch Brian st. Pierre throw to limus sweed this Sunday than see russell wilson.
This Russell Wilson Slander is insane!!!!
Imagine working for a boss, that is working their hardest against you, because they didn't want you and don't like you, so they try everything in their power to sabotage you, but you're still having good production despite of it all, plus you're moving the company towards profiting, and right as you're going to hit the company in the green, he fires you.
This is what Russell Wilson went through with Sean Peyton his last year with the Broncos, and he still had 26 TDS, and only 8 interceptions, with his team in playoff contention, beating both the Bills Josh Allen and the Chiefs Patrick Mahomes, then was benched!
This narrative of Russell Wilson is so insane, idiotic and ridiculous!!!
And now since he had 3 bad seasons, he is playing his self out of the hall of game, when he had 9 great seasons, and from what I remember 9 is higher than 3 people.
People just don't like Russell Wilson because he is a good person who isn't overly aggressive and carries himself better than most humans, and that scares people to think, others have better character than them.
Russell Wilson is a hall of famer and should get the opportunity to start!!!
Russ abilities have gone from being the chef at a high quality seafood restaurant in Seattle to manning the graveyard shift at Eat & Park
…it’s not that serious
I think the "Hail Mary" is more about the guys at the other end, not the guy flinging it into the end zone. Virtually ANY NFL quarterback can throw the ball from his twenty into the other end zone.. Who's down there matters more.
Anyone can jump up and catch a ball if you want to trivialize everything...
@@SunShine-xc6dh lol no, not everyone, i'd say most everyone cant' catch.... its very frustrating in fact.... catch the damn ball..
This crap about Russ being bad for 3 years is getting old. Rich is just repeating the BS that he heard from his buddy Sean Peyton. Maybe he should take a look at what Sean's offense has produced without Russ. James Merilatt, founder of Mile High Sports, says the Broncos would be 6-0 with Russ at QB. Maybe Russ will bomb. Who knows? The Steelers brought Russ in to take them to the playoffs and beyond and Mike T. is going to make sure he has his chance.
Keep living in delusion ig, he sucks.
dude you are sooo so delusional & have no effing clue what you’re talking about i’m sorry, but it’s true. if you had watched ACTUAL FILM of his play last season then you’d understand that he was garbage. his stat line of 26 TD’s came off the back of the denver defense from all the turnovers they created & short fields he was gifted with. He barely could throw over 200 yards almost every game. He led the league in holding the ball too long which translated into being the 4th most sacked QB in the league. Had a top 10 offensive line, but caused his own sacks because he couldn’t make simple reads. This brain dead comment is getting old
Russ has been trash for 3 years 😂
Russ was bombing last season broncos defense was horrible last season
We watch the same games but they decided to see something else 😂
Russ at his age isn’t gonna be any better.
Justin Fields the 1st QB in NFL History to be benched after starting 4-2 😏
He was never starting, just fulfilling his role as back up, qb 2
Fields is a more athletic QB I'm sorry but he should just back up fields
Nfl teams have plenty of 'athletes' but only one guy is allowed to throw it which really doesn't take an 'athlete'
This should be his last start of his career,...he's done!!
Rooting for Russell to regain at least a flicker of his old superlative self. Just not if/when he plays the Niners, he's was a thorn in our side for years.
Will rich say boatraced in this clip
1 player came to fix their legacy, the other wants to be here.
Justin Fields has been good enough to win to start the season.
If Russ starts on Monday, Steelers lose. That's almost guaranteed.
Tomlin and the Suits must believe Wilson can make the throws Fields cannot. That's probably true, but it doesn't mean they'll be any better. It doesn't matter, though. Pittsburgh will be in 3rd place in the AFC-N soon enough.
Still want to see Justin play … THAT feels like the minority opinion now.
@@gazasixside7803 I want to see Justin play for the next 10 plus years. Just right now in this moment they need to find out what they have in Russ
Let a young player like Fields learn and develop in this offense and get better? Nope, give the ball to a guy everyone knows is washed and kill all the momentum and confidence Fields has earned to this point. Guy just can't catch a break in this league.
Russ burned all his bridges, this is it for him - he did what a handful of athletes under Pete in Seattle did, flourish, get a big head and walk away from Pete only to go somewhere else and suck...then couple on all the emerging stories of what a dbag he is to his teammates and stuff, Russ let celebrity go to his head.
Run game? Fields was the run game
Nah that's Harris, fields is the reason the pass game turns into runs
Means the Steelers will be 4 and 3 Monday morning. Theres no way in hell Denver ate all that money if he could still play.
Might not have had the personal/team around him and you noticed every good QB has a team around him...
@@jameslee8519 not sure what you're getting at? Are you saying he's got a better team around him now? Because the offensive line is decimated right now and he only has one deep threat and defenses are going to line up to stop the run and come after him until the Steelers prove you have to cover their WRs. He had two top level receivers in Denver and one of the best QB coaches of all time last year and still had an average year. In Pittsburgh it will look more like the Hackett led Russ than the Payton led Russ. It's going to get ugly and tomlin deserves all the blame.
@@clintonroppolo1709 yep even with the bad oline that changed every week and he didn't have have a running game at all last year with Denver
I'm a steeler fan and don't want Russell this way. Fields earned that spot, Russ should get it if he gets hurt. Since when do hard work and winning results (not perfect) doesn't matter, but it doesn't matter just get Russ. I hope it back fires.... and Tomlin be on the hot seat, so damn arrogant. I'm a Tomlin fan...but this is ridiculous, you crush psychologically a QB, for a want. Smh, it wouldn't be a problem to start Russ after the break.
This is such a stupid move if true. Russ is cooked. He hasn't played in a while and when he did for the Broncos he was awful. What more can you get out of him that you can't get from Fields? I'll enjoy watching the end result of this.
wow you don't watch football
Pass completions to play makers
The Seahawks were contenders for 2 years, they won one thanks to the defence. After their lost to the Pats they won 2 or 3 games total in the playoffs with Russell. Wilson's numbers were mostly coming from behind and deep throws. He's never been a good administrator of the ball....
Fields numbers are basically non existent in any scenario
All the things everyone loves about Russ, he hasn't done in 3+ seasons lol...
Played on a good team with a competent coach?
@@SunShine-xc6dh Sure.... one of the things everyone loves about Russ is "playing on a good team with a competent coach"
that's what happens when you stuck in denver
@@musicholla807 his last 1 or 2 in seattle were not great either...
@@paullmight42 yes they were.......
There are steeler fan channels(dummies) that wanted Tomlin fired 2 weeks ago. If they lose this week they’re gonna lose it 😂
And remind us who really cares?
Key word past tense