8088 Domination Running on a Toshiba T3200 286 Portable

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  • This is the oldest computer in my collection with a hard drive large enough to hold the entire 8088 Domination demo, so it was the best candidate of mine to run this despite being six years and two CPU generations newer than the IBM 5150 it was originally designed for. Still...it looks quite nifty on that orange plasma screen, doesn't it?
    Also, noisy hard drive is noisy!
    8088 Domination (C)2014 Jim Leonard
    / @jimleonard
    "Tron" (C)1982 Walt Disney Productions & Lisberger/Kushner Productions
    Partial use of the above-stated copyrighted motion picture recording within this video is allowed under the Fair Use doctrine of United States Copyright Law, Section 107.
    "Tron: Legacy" (C)2010 Walt Disney Productions & Sean Bailey Productions
    Partial use of the above-stated copyrighted motion picture recording within this video is allowed under the Fair Use doctrine of United States Copyright Law, Section 107.
    "Never Gonna Give You Up" (C)1987 Rick Astley/RCA Records
    Partial use of the above-stated copyrighted musical recording within this video is allowed under the Fair Use doctrine of United States Copyright Law, Section 107.
    "Bad Apple!!" (C)1998 ZUN/Touhou Project
    Remix (C)2007 Masayoshi Minoshima
    Silhouette Music Video (C)2009 Anira (あにら)
    Any other video or musical clips not listed which are used in this recording are copyrighted to their respective owners, and are used in accordance with the Fair Use doctrine of United States Copyright Law, Section 107.
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  • @mikumiku4u942
    @mikumiku4u942 6 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    This computer is soo cool becuase it has a gas plasma screen.

    • @kimgkomg
      @kimgkomg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I don't even know what that means but I agree

    • @xirfall
      @xirfall 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @TheRealNeoFrancois
      @TheRealNeoFrancois 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@kimgkomg A type of thin display screen, called a flat-panel display, used in some older portable computers. A gas-plasma display works by sandwiching neon gas between two plates. Each plate is coated with a conductive print. The print on one plate contains vertical conductive lines and the other plate has horizontal lines. Together, the two plates form a grid. When electric current is passed through a horizontal and vertical line, the gas at the intersection glows, creating a point of light, or pixel. You can think of a gas-plasma display as a collection of very small neon bulbs. Images on gas-plasma displays generally appear as orange objects on top of a black background.
      Although gas-plasma displays produce very sharp monochrome images, they require much more power than the more common LCD displays.

    • @kimgkomg
      @kimgkomg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheRealNeoFrancois correct me if I'm wrong, but is that not similar to the way E-ink displays work? The wire grid in particular reminds me of E-ink.

    • @TheRealNeoFrancois
      @TheRealNeoFrancois 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kimgkomg it's similar but not the sameEach electronic paper display is made up of millions of such capsules in a thin film, with the particles inside the capsules of different colors and different electric charges. Electrodes are placed above and below the capsule film. When a positive or negative electric field is applied to an individual electrode, the color particles with the corresponding charge will move either to the top or bottom of a capsule, making the surface of the e-paper display appear a certain color.
      Capsules filled with negatively and positively charged particles color the surface of an EPD when an electric charge is applied
      In the most basic incarnation of an e-paper screen, the particles inside an e ink capsule will be either black or white. The white particles carry a positive charge and the black particles a negative one. If the electric charge applied is negative, then the negative black ink particles will be repelled to the top of the capsule and color the surface of the display black in that spot.

  • @acus69
    @acus69 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    For anyone wondering it starts at 4:00

  • @kingcrimson234
    @kingcrimson234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    What's amazing about the 8088 domination encoder is that it essentially converts video to x86 assembly. Think about that for a minute.

    • @znefas
      @znefas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      that is really, really cool. would the videos be encoded in any modern file format like mp4 or would it simply be some old deprecated binary format?

    • @znefas
      @znefas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@klhjglkjhlkjhlkjhlkjh that's actually really cool, especially when you have to keep efficiency in mind; i couldn't imagine writing a program in a low-level language that converts data into CPU instructions

    • @abyssalboy8811
      @abyssalboy8811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@klhjglkjhlkjhlkjhlkjh so I can play Avanger_Infinity_War_Free_Hindi_Sub_2021_1080p_mp4.exe and it will run?

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This entire presentation is about 31MB. For 1981, that was 3 times larger than your entire hard drive, IF you had one installed (a 30MB hard drive would have been probably around '85 or so, I think). You're limited to 640x400 resolution, and a maximum of 16 colours over composite video (b/w over CGA/EVA/VGA), but you could still play Avengers Infinity War if you can convert it, and have a large enough hard drive (an XT-CF or XT-IDE helps).
      If you want more details, look up "Jim Leonard" on TH-cam, or "Trixter" on the Vintage Computer forums. He's the guy who worked on it.

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BlackEpyon I can only imagine someone making this demo back in the 80s running it all straight from a backup tape drive to keep up the data usage

  • @mez472
    @mez472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I love noisy hdd's. They make you feel like in early 80's. Shame I was born too late and I missed almost everything good at that times

    • @meemee1357
      @meemee1357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Too bad that loud hdds generally mean they will fail soon...

    • @kimgkomg
      @kimgkomg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Like cross continental nuclear missiles

    • @enderlytra_3709
      @enderlytra_3709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep but looking back is what's so good about Gen Z.

    • @crazy_wwww
      @crazy_wwww 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same, i use fans with high rpm in computer

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@meemee1357 These days? Yes. Back then, they all sounded like that.

  • @Fastolph-
    @Fastolph- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Bad Apple looks RIGHT and RAD on that amber display!

  • @untrust2033
    @untrust2033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love this demo. Wish I could find the music that plays before bad apple

  • @mattcrowley8993
    @mattcrowley8993 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    4:00 Suddenly, old tech Rickrolls you!

  • @ShnizelInBag
    @ShnizelInBag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Science moves forward thanks to weebs trying to play bad apple on everything

    • @sluxi
      @sluxi ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's just for the memes. The demoscene has been pushing old hardware to new records for many decades.

  • @shawnerz98
    @shawnerz98 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's amazing. I recently got a T-3200 with a 40 MB HD and 1 MB of RAM. After replacing a few caps in the power supply, it is running amazingly well. This looks like a goal to run on my T-3200. Thanks for posting!

  • @AgentKilo
    @AgentKilo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a simple man, I see neat monochrome lcds, I see bad apple, I click

  • @Yessir1506
    @Yessir1506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like that orange plasma screen

  • @A.m.a.r.u
    @A.m.a.r.u 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    _BAD APPLE!_

  • @ferando
    @ferando 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    fuck i got rickrolled again

  •  7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work

  • @Martyna-AnimationEN
    @Martyna-AnimationEN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    4:47 bad apple

  • @flaksoft8003
    @flaksoft8003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    great
    but the advantage of text mode is that you can stream movies (silent ones) via telnet and SSH
    that is the future i tell you

  • @reofardian1429
    @reofardian1429 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you got rickroled

  • @strikdevroblox9079
    @strikdevroblox9079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro rickrolled me again

  • @thedopplereffect00
    @thedopplereffect00 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bet you wish you had a tripod, your arms must have been tired after that

  • @NexXxus86
    @NexXxus86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    how did you get a soundcard in this thing?

    • @bigloudnoise
      @bigloudnoise  6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Thomas Kings it has two ISA slots in it.

    • @NexXxus86
      @NexXxus86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      bigloudnoise oh neat. I can't remember if my 5100 had one

    • @bigloudnoise
      @bigloudnoise  6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I don't believe the T5100 has any ISA slots, just a proprietary Toshiba expansion slot for modems. AFAIK the only way you could add sound to a T5100 is with a Covox or similar device that plugs into the parallel port.

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It will be dependant on make and model, but a lot of these old laptops could support a docking station that had one or two ISA slots in it.

  • @somegreenguy
    @somegreenguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hell yeah bad apple

  • @retropcs88
    @retropcs88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    How did you transfer the 20 megabyte file to the computer?

    • @bigloudnoise
      @bigloudnoise  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      By using an external Zip drive that connects via the parallel port. Very handy for transferring large amounts of data between old computers like this, and newer ones as well if you also happen to have a USB Zip drive on hand.

    • @retropcs88
      @retropcs88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigloudnoise I do not have any of those, i do have a internal zip drive but no parallel port one. I use ethernet to transfer large files and it is very slow on my 286. It takes 13 minutest to transfer the bad apple file.

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@retropcs88 If you happen to be using an XT-CF or XT-IDE, it's sometimes quicker to copy it directly to a CF card from a card reader. Although, I happen to have a few Zip drives myself for just this purpose.

    • @retropcs88
      @retropcs88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlackEpyon I am using a normal hard drive but I put a CD-ROM in there so I can transfer files very quickly

    • @shawnerz98
      @shawnerz98 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BlackEpyon You are correct. However, on the T-3200, the drive interfaces are MFM.

  • @user-em7sc2db3w
    @user-em7sc2db3w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rickroll

  • @nicolegardner1710
    @nicolegardner1710 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How much memory does this machine have? I've thought about trying it on my Tandy 1000SX but that only has 384k. I've been looking to upgrade but it takes a huge chunk of cash to do something like that.

    • @bigloudnoise
      @bigloudnoise  6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      1MB or 1024KB. I don't know off-hand what the minimum requirements for this particular demo are, but I'd guess 640K and a 40MB hard drive. The hard drive requirements was actually the biggest limiting factor for me finding the oldest computer in my collection that would play this, since every computer I have older than this only had 20MB or smaller drives.

  • @carl_the_
    @carl_the_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow.

    • @lakittor
      @lakittor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why do i keep finding you everytime? Homestar runner,and etc?

  • @xxsubexx2897
    @xxsubexx2897 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What Cards are u Useing i want to upgrade my T 3200 too!

  • @nonogamer9117
    @nonogamer9117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:09

  • @crazychicken2005
    @crazychicken2005 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally have a T3100SX, but sadly it does not work, the internal power supply is dead and I don’t trust myself to fix it

  • @alexfox1675
    @alexfox1675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I own one. Cool computer not much to say.

  • @theprodiamondboy4039
    @theprodiamondboy4039 ปีที่แล้ว

    So thats how laptops looked like in the 80s 😃😃😃
    Its suitcase... 🤣🤣🤣

  • @user-cr8zt1li5u
    @user-cr8zt1li5u 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rick Astley was the best

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Сергей Поздняков is he not anymore...?

  • @AmstradExin
    @AmstradExin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ooooh i have a 3100

    • @AmstradExin
      @AmstradExin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      also, where is the sound coming from?

    • @Toasty_Gaming
      @Toasty_Gaming 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      come Saturday ill also be the proud owner of a t3100/20! I assuming hes using some sort of sound blaster card as the machine can use pc cards (amazing right) the one im about to get has a vertical line right down the middle is there anyway I can fix it?

    • @AmstradExin
      @AmstradExin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      my guess is that you let it run for a while, get the display out, firmly press the rim together on all spots and assemble again. I had multiple lines and they are all gone.

    • @AmstradExin
      @AmstradExin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bigger problem is the psu. it tends to overheat.

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a Sound Blaster in one of the built in ISA slots!