Toolgrinding: Micro trepanning tool

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  • @Chris-bg8mk
    @Chris-bg8mk ปีที่แล้ว +49

    "4mm carbide end mill that is no longer useful. I make those myself". Yep, Stefan, I make those myself too, in lots of different sizes! ;-)

    • @wwjjcc418
      @wwjjcc418 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Many of us do the same, following the immortal pioneering work of This Old Tony.

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wwjjcc418
      If it's just one corner that gets crunched it's an instant boring tool 😁

    • @oldfarthacks
      @oldfarthacks ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will have to look into that as a manufacturing process, having never, ever made one myself. I have also never let the magic smoke out of any electronic system. .... Ok, I'm safe, no lighting. 😁

  • @crichtonbruce4329
    @crichtonbruce4329 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Stefan: "I'm using a broken end mill... I made that myself" I almost spit my tea out. Thanks again!

    • @oldfarthacks
      @oldfarthacks ปีที่แล้ว

      That there is funny, no matter who you are.

  • @Blondihacks
    @Blondihacks ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Outstanding video! Your timing was excellent. I was just thinking about small scale trepanning and wondering about approaches to it. Your photography in this one was especially good, as well.

    • @oldfarthacks
      @oldfarthacks ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah Quinn, you could have figured this one out by yourself, your are just that quick. Still, it's nice to watch a master at his trade and clearly this video is of a master.

  • @MF175mp
    @MF175mp ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "hogs off 0,1mm of material in 2 or 3 passes" 😂

    • @oldfarthacks
      @oldfarthacks ปีที่แล้ว

      That there is indeed funny. It got a laugh from me. 😅

  • @robertburns2415
    @robertburns2415 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You got so close I had to stop the video and get my safety glasses. Great cinematography.

  • @ROBRENZ
    @ROBRENZ ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Very nice work Stefan!
    ATB, Robin

  • @Engineerd3d
    @Engineerd3d ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always make sure I have time to sit down and watch one of your videos. They are worth every minute.

  • @Self_Evident
    @Self_Evident ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I make those myself." :)
    I do something similar - I make my own 2-flute end mills. It's easy . Basically, you start with a 4-flute end mill...

  • @davidsnyder2000
    @davidsnyder2000 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I’m not a machinist, I don’t have the brain for it, but I find your teachings fascinating Stefan. I learn a lot when you “dummy it down” for everyone to understand how something complex you make seem simple. Much respect my friend 👍🙏🙂

  • @bertblankenstein3738
    @bertblankenstein3738 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ahh the production of the end mill blanks. I have only experimented with drill bits.

    • @oldfarthacks
      @oldfarthacks ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a whole wide world of possible materials, drills and mills are just the start. Case in point, files, I have turned these into something useful

  • @davidjames1007
    @davidjames1007 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for sharing, I am just a hobby machinist, self taught. I build small model engines for fun on the weekends. Watching an expert trained machinist like yourself is really facinating.

  • @Joelsfilmer
    @Joelsfilmer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:25 Robo-Stefan has become one with the CAD software! The rumours about German engineers were true after all!

  • @davidchavez81
    @davidchavez81 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I once was running a steep grooved spiral on the internal of a part on the lathe. It was howling away and I was ensured that the boring bar always made that noise. I wasn't satisfied with that answer so I inspected the cutter closely and found that the back side of the insert was indeed rubbing just enough to make a sound but not enough to ruin the parts. I ground the insert away on the back side of the cutter and to the senior machinists delight the boring bar was now silent!

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sometimes the chatter and howling are a simple case of too much over reach for the boring bar. When I worked nights I came in one time to finish up a job in the Jig Bore. The guy in days was using a 3/4 (19mm) bar to try and bore a 4" (101mm) hole about 5" (127mm) deep. Once he got chatter he couldn't get rid of it. Swapped out to a stiffer set up. And no problems. To be fair it was on a weekend and the guy normally didn't do jig bore work. It's not just tool clearance. The stiffer the set-up the better.

  • @GiovanniCarloIglina
    @GiovanniCarloIglina ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3,8 mm been called a "large diameter" (even if in comparison) is beautifully in line with your work, Stefan! Awesome!

  • @robertklein9190
    @robertklein9190 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super Bowl of T & C grinding 🏈

  • @ade63dug
    @ade63dug ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Having recently got a D bit grinder . This certainly shows how tool design should be kept simple . Love the rubber band idea as well . Thanks Stefan . Cheers Ade.

  • @davidrule1335
    @davidrule1335 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Alright! I'll watch tonight. Going to get pizza and beer!

  • @mpetersen6
    @mpetersen6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've made my fair share of custom treppaning tools for cutting O-Ring grooves in faces and internal diameters. HSS though

  • @mattholden5
    @mattholden5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Stefan, love the rubber band idea. Seems like a great way to maintain preload against such tiny tools. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mftmachining
    @mftmachining ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Erstklassige Arbeit, Stefan. Bei so feinen Arbeiten zieh ich immer den Hut. Klasse. Bei trepanning fällt mir immer der König der Trepanner; David Wilks ein. So schade das er raus ist, aus der Branche.

    • @StefanGotteswinter
      @StefanGotteswinter  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ja, seine Videos kenne ich, total irre was der machen konnte - Und dann auch noch in fürchterlichen Materialien. Schade, dass sein Geschäft wohl untergegangen ist.

  • @donteeple6124
    @donteeple6124 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Stefan is the true Jedi Master of precision machinists. Yoda's BIG brother !!!
    Outstanding as usual, thanks for showing us inside YOUR world.

  • @lohikarhu734
    @lohikarhu734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool to see that the 2D drawing, and some idea of tool geometry, lets you put together a reasonably optimized tool, without huge effort... "brain over brawn" 🇨🇦🐻🇩🇪

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well here you are putting those little pegs on with a rotary tool after all. 🙂

  • @vincei4252
    @vincei4252 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been mulling making a water cooler block for a power RF FET amplifier that I'm building. This looks like an excellent tool for cutting the heat pipes which the water will run by. I learn something new from everyone of your videos. As always, thank you Stephan!

    • @bathedincloudsofblood
      @bathedincloudsofblood ปีที่แล้ว

      the more machinists who are also involved in electronics i see on here, the more i want to get back into circuit design. two beautifully intersecting interests in my opinion

  • @01thomasss
    @01thomasss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I'll be Back!"
    Me too...

  • @TheDaumen
    @TheDaumen ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Don't get frustrated Stefan. You are starting to get the hang of machining and grinding!😁

    • @StefanGotteswinter
      @StefanGotteswinter  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      At least good enough to pretend to be a machinist on youtube :D

    • @oldfarthacks
      @oldfarthacks ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StefanGotteswinter
      Ah the old fake it till you make it thing! LOL Nice work, well presented, fun and informative to watch.

  • @bkoholliston
    @bkoholliston ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a very informative video--just great! There was certainly a pucker factor when you did the first test cut under power feed--I said "wow" out loud watching it as it dove in. Can't wait to try this on my D-bit grinder.

  • @bustednuckles2
    @bustednuckles2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was incredible.

  • @bodgit1964
    @bodgit1964 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. I was just about to start making a tool the way I always have and I thought I will just have a look.... You drawing at 5:20 or so gave me everything I needed. Thank you.

  • @ashpalmer1365
    @ashpalmer1365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Woohoo! New video!

  • @endrekalvenes8460
    @endrekalvenes8460 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always👍

  • @RickRolling-tc7vb
    @RickRolling-tc7vb ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very interesting Stefan, and a lovely surface finish for the scale. I guess another way would be to drill out the centre and insert a precision ground pin - assuming the parameters of the part allowed for it of course. Thanks, always something to learn here.

  • @stevensmart8868
    @stevensmart8868 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing and as always excellent tips that help us learn. Cheers

  • @HP_rep_mek
    @HP_rep_mek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video👍

  • @slausonm
    @slausonm ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome. I will be using this technique. Thank you!

  • @mog5858
    @mog5858 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for sharing keep up the good work.

  • @joansparky4439
    @joansparky4439 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice, thanks for showing the tool making process 👍

  • @artmckay6704
    @artmckay6704 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow!
    What a great tool design!
    I like it! Well done! :)

  • @ianpendlebury3704
    @ianpendlebury3704 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great demonstration and nice work. Thanks.

  • @angelramos-2005
    @angelramos-2005 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video,Stefan.Thank you.

  • @youpattube1
    @youpattube1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, it did make sense. A very interesting video. And thanks for the Debolt-Saunders referral.

  • @ls2005019227
    @ls2005019227 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Outstanding job & thanks for the fantastic video!

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always Stefan, thanks for uploading my friend! 👍👍

  • @spehropefhany
    @spehropefhany ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very inspirational. This year is the one I'll learn to grind lathe tools, at least.

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This makes perfect sense, now that you've explained it so well!

  • @wktodd
    @wktodd ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stefan ,I always learn something from you . Thanks for making these videos

  • @624Dudley
    @624Dudley ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this in-depth look at special purpose grinding, really interesting! 👍

  • @pirminkogleck4056
    @pirminkogleck4056 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    finaly ! evening is safed ! thx stefan !

  • @paulmorrey733
    @paulmorrey733 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Stefan

  • @jamesrush5367
    @jamesrush5367 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great as always stefan, great surface finish from a hand ground tool, mine always look like hell lol!

  • @hansbjaeke3414
    @hansbjaeke3414 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sehr beeindruckend! Master work 👍

  • @larryschweitzer4904
    @larryschweitzer4904 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, nicely explained.

  • @TrPrecisionMachining
    @TrPrecisionMachining ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good job stefan and good video...thanks for your time

  • @heighRick
    @heighRick ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Stefan, helps a lot!

  • @outsidescrewball
    @outsidescrewball ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video,discussion demonstration

  • @jonludwig8233
    @jonludwig8233 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for sharing Stefan. Your video and mixing skills are superb. It makes the content even more interesting when we can see in detail!

  • @ellieprice363
    @ellieprice363 ปีที่แล้ว

    For a very quick and cheap trepanning tool purchase an annular cutter of the correct size and remove all the teeth except one. Example: To trepan or bore a .750 hole with clearance to prevent rubbing select a .6875 cutter. Again, leave only one cutting tooth. For hardened materials to RC45 use a cutter with carbide teeth. Always look for the simplest and cheapest way to do a job.

  • @marceloiannini8199
    @marceloiannini8199 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice, as always!
    Cutting oil looks like olive oil.
    Cool tool grinder.
    Danke you!

    • @StefanGotteswinter
      @StefanGotteswinter  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its Jokisch Alpha93 cutting oil, but its actually plant based :)

  • @Paul-FrancisB
    @Paul-FrancisB ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great a new video I was just watching the Vertex rotary table improvements from the back catalogue

  • @RRINTHESHOP
    @RRINTHESHOP ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice job Stefan. I also use CAD in this way for tool making, works great. Nice tool and works great.

  • @magnusklahr8190
    @magnusklahr8190 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Exelent video!!

  • @machinist_matt
    @machinist_matt ปีที่แล้ว

    That cut very nicely! It's satisfying when a cutting tool you ground yourself works so well! 👍

  • @Rustinox
    @Rustinox ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Blueing the surfaces before grinding. Such a simple trick and yet so useful.

  • @somebodyelse6673
    @somebodyelse6673 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would have been afraid of snapping that tiny carbide tooth off, due to the stress riser of the corner. What I learned is that corner radius is not necessary if the cutting force is low enough. It takes experience to know how much we can get away with, thank you for sharing yours.

  • @cncshrops
    @cncshrops ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your comment about reversible spindles encourages me to fit a a reversing switch to my Deckel S0. Definitely helpful for end mill touch ups.

    • @StefanGotteswinter
      @StefanGotteswinter  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Careful, they wheel hub needs a keyed washer to be able to reverse the spindle, otherwise the wheel might unscrew itself 😬

    • @cncshrops
      @cncshrops ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StefanGotteswinter Good point! Thanks.

  • @jtveg
    @jtveg ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏻

  • @ukzen9309
    @ukzen9309 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am a Toolmaker but could never match your skill , but have still picked up tips for day to day ,thanks for the videos.

  • @acorneau
    @acorneau ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love a follow-up video on how you measure your ID, OD, and depth to confirm what you cut is to the specifications!

    • @koharaisevo3666
      @koharaisevo3666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the real part it's just the cylindrical boss not a boss inside a pocket like this demo so you can just measure it with a micrometer. You should what the video making the real part.

  • @edsshed3468
    @edsshed3468 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been watching your channel & shop tours for many years and have been inspired & learned so much from them, I have also bought many items that you had, and I didn’t and constructed some of your projects over the years. I hope you will view my shop tour in Cape Town and see how you have influenced it.

  • @EmmaRitson
    @EmmaRitson ปีที่แล้ว

    love a good tool grinding video. :D

  • @wilfredswinkels
    @wilfredswinkels ปีที่แล้ว

    Graag gedaan! 😀

  • @TheDistur
    @TheDistur ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You make some interesting stuff.

  • @first_namelast_name4923
    @first_namelast_name4923 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for yet another very informative and entertaining video.
    The only problem now is, that besides other awesome machines, such as FP1, I am lusting for a tool grinder. I almost purchased one [in a terrible state] two or three years ago but somebody was faster than me.

  • @MegaChekov
    @MegaChekov ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea well done i think that may make a cool wood bit for some inlay 2" thanks for sharing all the best to you and yours from John in Texas

  • @MarkW321
    @MarkW321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!

  • @darrenblattner2508
    @darrenblattner2508 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Nice. 👍

  • @transmitterguy478
    @transmitterguy478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool!

  • @David_11111
    @David_11111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YAY very impressive.

  • @CatNolara
    @CatNolara ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what you could also do for the angled part: since you always go from the outside edge of the 4mm shank and this position is never changing no matter the rotation angle, just put a driven dimension in CAD from the outside circle perpendicular to the angled line. That way you get precisely the amount you have to feed in. If you don't have CAD it's not hard figuring out this dimension by some easy trigonometry. I can't imagine grinding up to an edge by eye can beat this.

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop
    @AmateurRedneckWorkshop ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I learned quite a bit from this one as usual. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.

  • @iteerrex8166
    @iteerrex8166 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tiny adventurers from the Tinyverse. By: Stefan Gotteswinter.

  • @g.tucker8682
    @g.tucker8682 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had guessed that the solution would be a tiny annular cutter. I suppose this is something like a single-toothed version of that.
    Very educational, thanks once again

  • @johnearley9924
    @johnearley9924 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I make them myself" LOL

  • @migalito1955
    @migalito1955 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Neat.

  • @tonys.6034
    @tonys.6034 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like it may have been sharp! lol great work

  • @Ghaz002
    @Ghaz002 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "a carbide endmill that is no longer useful (I make those myself)" hahaha

  • @emiliog.4432
    @emiliog.4432 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Making small parts and tools is just so satisfying.
    My dad made surgical instruments and I was always fascinated. Thanks for sharing your work.

  • @strykerentllc
    @strykerentllc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another excellent tutorial Stefan. The explanation of why you do each step is immensely valuable as well as the tips on how to avoid pitfalls in tool grinding are infinitely valuable. Thank you.

  • @bobuk5722
    @bobuk5722 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah Stefan, I've got it. You are working on prototype pivot milled in place watches. Very timely video .....

  • @macsmachine
    @macsmachine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “I make those myself”😂😂😂😂

  • @maniacal_engineer
    @maniacal_engineer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "... I make those myself" wow! me too! I am quite expert at making no longer useful cutting tools available for repurposing

  • @elanjacobs1
    @elanjacobs1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome work as usual. Building the profile into the tool saves so much extra hassle in production and it's infinitely repeatable (ignoring the minute amount of tool wear)

  • @tmurray1972
    @tmurray1972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hervorragend.🔥🔥

  • @troyam6607
    @troyam6607 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    makes me want to make an extreme sized trepanning tool somewhere around 50 to 60mm

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a job once where I had to cut the gear teeth off of a part where we needed to use the part from about 25mm below the gear teeth OD. The OD was around 450mm with the teeth around 40mm or so wide. Took a 25mm tall cutoff blade and ground a radius. Took the teeth off as a ring. The teeth were flame hardened to around 50RC. Turning them was not an option. Wouldn't fit in the OD grinder either. Sometimes you have to think outside the box. Because you have no other options.

  • @therealme613
    @therealme613 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😂 🗣“I make those myself” 🥁💥

  • @patheron7812
    @patheron7812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video as usual. How did you measure the dimensions of your feature for compliance?

  • @Ujeb08
    @Ujeb08 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    beautifully done Stefan! was that 316 Stainless you were cutting?

  • @wrstew1272
    @wrstew1272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    600 Kilos? Wow, that is phenomenal. Looks like a great machine that a talented guy could do micrometer class work the first setup. I have heard that it is still in demand, and carries a respectable price tag if you can find one. Super score! Reciprocal is the word that you were looking for. And your English is beyond reproach….excellent video Stefan. As usual!

  • @polhermans1838
    @polhermans1838 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @rahulsd456
    @rahulsd456 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is genius, I was searching this kind of tool from many days, Can you make tool for me ?