Atrus doesn't "inexplicably drop the Myst linking book" at all. He uses the linking book over the Star Fissure so when he entered Myst the book would fall in, assuming it would be destroyed.
Aardvark4lunch But he realized, the moment He fell into the fissure, that the book would not be destroyed as He had planned. It continued falling into that starry expanse of which He had only a fleeting glimpse. He has tried to speculate where it might have landed, but He must admit, however- such conjecture is futile. Still, the question of whose hands might someday hold his Myst book is unsettling to him. He knows that his apprehensions might never be allayed, and so He closes, realizing that perhaps, the ending has not yet been written.
See, help me on this. The ending confused the crap out of me when I beat Riven at 10 or 11 years old. Why didn’t Atrius let the player return to D’ni and Myst with him? Like, immediately after thanking us for our aid, it felt like he betrayed us too! Now that I’m older, I suppose the Star Fissure was the only bridge between the world we came from and everything he knew (there were no known “earth” linking books), and the Star Fissure is supposed to not be deadly... but it still doesn’t make sense! Assuming it took a few hours or days for our player character to find the D’ni book in the Myst fireplace, in a broader sense there was 30 years elapsed from the Myst book was lost! Atrius has no way of knowing how much of that time was spent with the Myst Linking Book lying on earth compared to how much time it spent falling through space. We could easily die of asphyxiation, dehydration, or starvation! dehydration! Furthermore, Atrius never saw the condition of the Myst book when we found it, we have no way of knowing how much impact damage happens after traversing the rift! Does the fissure only “fall” in one direction at a speed slower than falling off a tall cliff (the gravitational velocity we would have gained from falling ought to be enough to kill us too)? From Ghen’s journals studying the Star Fissure, we can deduce that he’s studied it more than anyone else, and his test subjects fell out of observable sight with a microscope (presumably with lights attached to ease observation?). Finally, Atrius should know that the caverns of D’ni are geographically attached to our earth, sooooo we could’ve just gone back to D’ni and walked home. I’ll give Cyan a pass on this though, because Uru hadn’t been made yet (with the lore stating D’ni is underground on Earth), but overall it still seems like a contrived twist to make a memorable ending. Please tell me I’m wrong and don’t know something, I’ve only played the first three Myst games (cuz I only played them on Mac)!
@@evshrug One thing to note is that the player never speaks and is seemingly mute. So Atrus would have no way of actually knowing that you are from earth and you simply are able to understand him for whatever reason. Also if you look at the people of Riven they look indistinguishable from humans so the idea that you could be from any age and not just Earth is quite possible. Given this information the only for sure age Atrus could send you back to was whatever age linked up to the Star Fissure. As far as the other points some of them can be resolved and some of them can not. First off, Atrus realizes that the Star Fissure has oxygen from his time falling into it. Also he knows this to be doubly true by the fact that if it was truly space then Riven would have been destroyed upon them initially opening it to trap Gehn (kinda happens later but the age was already collapsing at this point) As far as freezing to death depending on how quickly he linked while being in the fissure he might have been able to determine if it is save or not in that aspect. The ones obviously he has no way of knowing is of course the impact velocity upon landing and also how long you'd be in the fissure before reaching the other side (obviously less than 30 years but that doesn't help much)
@@FFgamesftw Keep in mind, we are only lead to believe the Stranger is mute. It may merely be that we have no way of hearing ourselves during the game. It could be the Stranger is, for whatever reason, unable to hear their own voice. Or perhaps the Stranger is able to communicate by some other means. There are several moments throughout the games where Atrus seemingly understands us. This means that either we speak in some manner which we are ourselves unable to perceive or we use some form of nonverbal communication. Regardless of the truth, we should be able to communicate to Atrus when we see him in person the first time where we came from. After all, he is surrounded by huge stacks of paper. Since we presumably spend some amount of time with Atrus in D'ni before he goes to Myst island to burn the red and blue books, we must impart something about ourselves to him.
The books are surprisingly amazing. I read most of them as a teenager and am re reading them now. Had to go online to buy them, but I’m adding them to the family library.
You Really need to redo this one, as you got a lot of it wrong. Most of it by omission, and starting from the Dropping of the Myst book. Since linking books are left behind when you travel through them, to make sure Gen could not follow him to Myst, Atrus leapt into the star fissure, a hole in reality in the age of Riven. The moment he fell into the fissure, he realized that the book would not be destroyed as he had planed. It continued falling into that starry abyss of which he had only a fleeting glimpse before he linked out. Years went by and Atrus and Catherine had two sons, Sirius and Acaenar. Despite Atrus' best efforts to ease them right, the two sons turned evil. Sirius gained an insatiable greed for wealth, while Acaenar developed an unhealthy obsession for death and killing. Driven to madness by two linking books that Atrus forbade them from ever touching, the two brothers conspired to rid themselves of their parents. They trapped Catherine on Riven with Gehn and Atrus in the Ruins of Dini, and Plundered/murdered the population of every Age Atrus had ever written. Finally the brothers came to the two forbidden books, which they had saved for last. However, to their horror, the books turned out to be horrible traps that held them in limbo, unable to leave their prison. Now it's up to you, a total stranger who just happened to find a random book lying on the ground, to solve ridiculously complex puzzles that all amount to various combination locks in order to collect red/blue pages from the four remaining ages of Myst, Decide which brother is least likely to betray you, and try to find a way back home, in the sequel. Have FUN.
MrSailing101 They've got to keep it short! Besides, wouldn't all that stuff about Sirrus and Achenar spoil the game? Most of the MYSTery is figuring out what the heck happened with Sirrus and Achenar and wondering which one you should trust. I mean, the video also left out everything from Book of Ti'ana about how Veovis and Ae'geris caused the plague that wiped out D'ni, and also about Aitrus' and Anna's involvement in Veovis's arrest and later release, which led to the plague, and also about the whole controversy that Anna stirred up in D'ni when she first got there... And for that matter, they didn't say anything about Yeesha's story either. There's just too much Myst lore to cover in a minute! I think they did a pretty good job. They didn't really get anything wrong that they included, except when they said that Atrus "inexplicably" drops the Myst book into the Star Fissure, since like you said he kinda had to drop it.
To be fair they did get all of the lore details right (they usually leave the plot stuff relevant to game a mystery in the lore videos), but they star fissure part IS wrong like you said, Katherine escapes through the book and Atrus planned to as well (intending to hold it over the fissure before he ported so it would fall in when he disappeared and go caput, presumably) but the earth quake caused by Riven collapsing causes him to drop the book before he can teleport and then he falls in himself, noticing the book didn't explode or whatever he expected. Cue the stranger!
bubba bojanglez • The ending to Riven isn’t cyclical with the beginning of Myst, though that is an interesting theory. When I first beat Riven as a kid (like 10 or 11 years old), I totally expected the game to end with us all getting back to D’ni, Myst, and everything, so I was completely confused when we fell in the fissure without the linking book after everything we did for Atrius! Presumably, there is another fissure on our Earth, which is how the Myst book got to us in the first place. So in Riven, we apparently fall back to where we came from in the only way Atrius knew of a connection to our world (no return linking books back to “Earth”), presumably in a gentle way that doesn’t make us die from impact or starvation - I forget how much time elapsed between Atrius’ journal entries about leaving Riven and his Myst linking book being found... certainly don’t think a human would survive a 30 year fall through space the same way a book could!
EvShrug D’ni _is_ Earth, though Atrus had no way of knowing that we were from the same world. It’s mentioned somewhere in the lore that Gehn created the Riven book by partially copying bits of other books, since the ones he made by himself were all failures, which might explain the existence of the fissure: it leads to the worlds from the books that were copied. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them was the D’ni book, which would lead to Earth.
Looooved the first one. Second was all right. Third was okay on its own, but compared to the first, it was sort of anti-climactic. Still, would definitely recommend them to anybody who likes the games!
Book of D'ni is the weakest of the three (Book of Atrus is the best, IMHO). It's not bad but it's sort of all over the place when it comes to the story and it doesn't tie directly into the games as well as the other two, which is sort of a bummer.
D'ni is my favorite though. The different story's are a bit tied together but are each good. One in particular has stuck with me and often reminds me to think more about what I'm (not) seeing.
That's what makes Myst unique, the game never TELLS you the story, you have to piece it together and figure it out yourself. Super immersive and rewarding.
It might've been more clear to point out that there are two people with a name that sound like "Ayy-trus" those being Aitrus (older) and Atrus (younger) who is named after his grandfather.
They actually expanded the lore (and explained a lot more about Myst) later. For fans of the Myst series, the lore is everything- which is a combination of the games, the novels and lore announcements from the company. To give you an idea- one of the key puzzles in Riven depends on you learning the number system and part of a language used by the "D'ni". You can't even progress unless you read through the various journal lying around, which mostly focus on expanding the world.
I REMEMBER THIS GAME! I played it on my dad's old Mac, and I loved this game so much! Although, I haven't played it in years because I got stuck and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what to do xD
All of the symbols in Mystcraft are either D'ni letters, numbers, or Narayani pictograms. Also, the crystal portals in Mystcraft were, I believe, a reference to Atrus' crystal viewer in Revelation and RealMyst. The mod actually does a lot of stuff highly accurately to the games, such as how the books are constructed based on fundamental features of the planet it links to.
I got stuck, then I played Riven at 11, and bought the Prima strategy guides for Myst and Riven. The guides were great, had a helpful section with hints instead of game-beating cheats, and made playing through the game pretty fun! Even without a Guide though, I highly recommend Riven even today. They did a GREAT job designing that game so you could explore a lot and find a lot of puzzles without the puzzles being a gate to further progress... you could see the puzzles (or even miss some of them) and walk past, but the more you explore, things about the world start to “click” together! Very satisfying! The three VERY MILD hints I would give you would be to taking notes will save you a LOT of time, consider that some things eventually need power, and most importantly take your time. A relaxed pace helps, don’t worry if you don’t understand the answer to a puzzle the first time you see it, and sometimes parts of the puzzle will be in different places. If something looks like a clue, it’s probably not a red herring... critical notes could all fit on an index card, though if you’re up for it, a full journal in the same style as Atrus’ from the Myst Library about your impressions, discoveries, and notes ends up being a fun keepsake to read after you finish.
imnoturmum I think they were born in the island, maybe?? The player (us) didn't find the book until much later. Then again, I could be completely wrong.
Yeah there's a huge time skip between Atrus losing the book in the fissure and the stranger actually finding it. it's unclear whether it simply lied undisturbed for many years or if the fissure flung it through time to land in front of the stranger (which is the one I assume to be the case with how it just plops in front of you at the start of the game)
Maybe to prevent Myst in-game spoilers? @Professor Flowers, I was always confused at the ending to Riven. I’ll not give spoilers (to a 20+ year old game!) here, but it felt shocking right after Atrius thanks us for everything we did to beat the game! There was a 30 year gap between when the Myst book was lost and our player links into Myst for the first time! How do we survive the ending to Riven?!
I think that is left open to interpretation/point of view. I don't remember anything clearly stating it wan't the case outside of other character opinions (and even they were self admittedly formed to no go 'god'crazy)
This is one of the small details that makes gehn such a compelling antagonist imo. the specifics of how much you link to an age vs how much you can change it *are* unclear: atrus admits it himself when he "writes" an entire boat into stoneship. regardless of this though, gehn is clearly selfish, haughty, prideful, and abusive toward those who live in the ages he writes. his view of himself as a "god" is myopic and he is indifferent to the suffering of others. he is also insecure of his heritage as half human/dni, and is ironically racist towards all non-dni, feeling that the dni are simply better in every way than their mere "creations." all of these things combine to make gehn a truly unique and awesome "bad guy". this is how you write a good villain!!
I'm believe the official canon position is that Atrus is correct and the ages are all pre-existing worlds, but I kinda like the idea that maybe Gehn was partially correct too, and I think there are certain things in the series that are really difficult to explain within Atrus's view (like the ship in Stoneship Age). I also think it's interesting to question what responsibility, if any, a D'ni writer would have toward his ages if he was indeed creating those worlds. Obviously Gehn's whole, "I'm a god and I can do what I want!!!" attitude was wrong, but Atrus's theory that they're not actually creating the worlds at all kinda sidesteps the problem, especially since it's clear that the D'ni writers still did have a lot of power over the ages. I also personally think that even though Atrus was a good guy, he didn't always completely live up to his own theory in practice. Especially considering how his sons turned out...
I completely agree! I think a great example of 'changing' an age comes from from Catherine did to Riven with the daggers when she was rebelling against Gehn. I believe she explained that the only way she could make them appear was to write them as if they were already there up in the sky and just so happened to fall into the world at that point. It seems the way that changes have to work are based on a mix of how they are perceived by intelligent creatures and also being physically possible to occur in the current worlds rules (like when Gehn writes out the heat from the island world to reset the drought he caused by just striking it through, he didn't write a reason for the temperature to drop back to how it was, so instead of keeping the old world it instead links to a new version that they had never visited in the first place but the temperature was still as it used to be, hence the islanders not recognising them).
No two Descriptive books lead to the exact same Age. Even if you meticulously copy every detail of the book, there's a very, VERY slim chance it'll actually lead to the same Age as the original book. Most of the time, they'll lead to very similar Ages, but still not the same ones.
I absolutely LOVED the MYST games. I played and completed all 5 of them, and each one is better than the last one. Although, I think the fourth was my favorite. Huh. Whatever, I knew maybe two thirds of all this.
Yeah, all of them were great, although I think Riven was probably my favorite; after that it started focusing too much on developing a story around you rather than letting you discover what has already happened. Nevertheless I love all five games, even End of Ages, which I don't think many people liked because of how different it was from every other game.
YESSSSS!!!! Finally! I've been subscribed to this channel for about a year, and have asked for Myst to be done every single week, and it's finally happened! Thank you so much!
The books are really well written. Hollywood would do well to adapt Book of Atrus into a feature film. Fantastic story potential.... Also genius series of games.
The Myst Online: Uru Live community is pretty big, if you wanna try that out. It's just a MYST game that has puzzles and a storyline and everything, but there's also a main city-area that people often gather to speak with one another in. Bring a friend to help you with your puzzles! The creator of MYST is very active on it.
Minor correction: when linking out of Riven to trap Genn, Atrus flung himself into the Star Fissure (a hole in the world caused by a fundamental flaw in it's creation due to Genn's inferior writing ability) and then used the Myst linking book assuming that the book would be destroyed. He did this because one cannot carry a linking book that they are using and there was no other way to guarantee the book would be destroyed after his and Catherine's escape.
Because the first game was completely self-contained. Everything within Myst happened after Atrus and Catherine went there. What they told us in this video was a very fast summary of the three books about Myst that were written as prequel stories to the first game. The Book of Atrus (chronologically the last book, but written as the first) ends with Atrus and Catherine going to Myst after trapping Gehn within Riven and escaping.
I think Myst is one of the most finely crafted point-and-click games in existence, and I think it truly defined the silent protagonist. Great game, and they have RealMyst as well, for the people who didn't like having to click to go everywhere. Seriously, check it out.
there is way more lore to these games then you can fit in a minute. even the first 2 sons that the first myst game revolves around are missing in this little lore piece.
Only forgot to mention that the age D'ni is coincidentally on Earth, underneath New Mexico, specifically, which is how Ana found it, and why the Myst book ends up on Earth after it falls through the rift.
As the Allies sweep across Germany, Lore leads her siblings on a journey that exposes them to the truth of their parents' beliefs. An encounter with a mysterious refugee forces Lore to rely on a person she has always been taught to hate.
the myst was a point and click but was rebuilt with 3d worlds and a final age. riven was left as is but exists for ps1 exile, revelations, and end of ages are all similar to realmyst with 3d worlds. you can find them for ps2 and xbox consoles or locate pc editions. uru the complete chronicles was meant to be a mmorpg but was compressed to a pc only game, you can use this in 1st person and 3rd person along with using the fan site to still play the online portion and fanbuilt areas from sourcecode
Maybe you should have checked the book series that takes place before and between the games. The D'ni were actually digging their way up around the same time this lady was digging down and unfortunately there was a bit of rebel uprising with a weapon that not only caused illness but left the city rather "repainted" for a while.
I've been playing through the series since 2009, just started on Revelation yesterday. Easily one of the best game series of all time. But the backstory during Riven and Exile became so hard to follow in terms of events between the games that are just foisted onto The Stranger in the diaries, I always wondered what had happened. Also, this didn't even mention Sirrus and Achenar, who are pivotal to Myst, not to mention Exile and Revelation. Not got to End of Ages.
The most awesome part of this games is that any of it is actually seen by the player, since the stranger passes through this places way after the events have occurred. It's all related with journals and notes. So I guess the Lore guys had to extract most of this from the trilogy of novels that tie in with the games.
I can explain stuff you don't understand if you want, the D'ni have a rather complicated history. Both the first 2 novels and then some were squished into that lore there.
To each his own, I suppose. Personally, I like the way they played out the beginning of Myst. So many games hold your hand through all the objectives, but the first game gives you nothing but the intro, and getting to the island from a moving picture in a book. You have to figure out everything else yourself. The other games make the objectives more clear from the start, except maybe Uru, which was a bit vague also.
It's not just a point-and-click, it's THE point-and-click. But yeah it won't do anything to win you over for the genre if you don't have the time for it.
I don't know, considering explaining anything about Sirrius, Achenar and Myst itself would be both spoilers and pointless since its in the actual game, I think they did a pretty good job of explaining the backstory needed for Myst and Riven
Atrus doesn't "inexplicably drop the Myst linking book" at all. He uses the linking book over the Star Fissure so when he entered Myst the book would fall in, assuming it would be destroyed.
Aardvark4lunch But he realized, the moment He fell into the fissure, that the book would not be destroyed as He had planned. It continued falling into that starry expanse of which He had only a fleeting glimpse. He has tried to speculate where it might have landed, but He must admit, however- such conjecture is futile. Still, the question of whose hands might someday hold his Myst book is unsettling to him. He knows that his apprehensions might never be allayed, and so He closes, realizing that perhaps, the ending has not yet been written.
See, help me on this. The ending confused the crap out of me when I beat Riven at 10 or 11 years old.
Why didn’t Atrius let the player return to D’ni and Myst with him? Like, immediately after thanking us for our aid, it felt like he betrayed us too! Now that I’m older, I suppose the Star Fissure was the only bridge between the world we came from and everything he knew (there were no known “earth” linking books), and the Star Fissure is supposed to not be deadly... but it still doesn’t make sense! Assuming it took a few hours or days for our player character to find the D’ni book in the Myst fireplace, in a broader sense there was 30 years elapsed from the Myst book was lost!
Atrius has no way of knowing how much of that time was spent with the Myst Linking Book lying on earth compared to how much time it spent falling through space. We could easily die of asphyxiation, dehydration, or starvation! dehydration! Furthermore, Atrius never saw the condition of the Myst book when we found it, we have no way of knowing how much impact damage happens after traversing the rift! Does the fissure only “fall” in one direction at a speed slower than falling off a tall cliff (the gravitational velocity we would have gained from falling ought to be enough to kill us too)? From Ghen’s journals studying the Star Fissure, we can deduce that he’s studied it more than anyone else, and his test subjects fell out of observable sight with a microscope (presumably with lights attached to ease observation?).
Finally, Atrius should know that the caverns of D’ni are geographically attached to our earth, sooooo we could’ve just gone back to D’ni and walked home. I’ll give Cyan a pass on this though, because Uru hadn’t been made yet (with the lore stating D’ni is underground on Earth), but overall it still seems like a contrived twist to make a memorable ending. Please tell me I’m wrong and don’t know something, I’ve only played the first three Myst games (cuz I only played them on Mac)!
@@evshrug One thing to note is that the player never speaks and is seemingly mute. So Atrus would have no way of actually knowing that you are from earth and you simply are able to understand him for whatever reason. Also if you look at the people of Riven they look indistinguishable from humans so the idea that you could be from any age and not just Earth is quite possible. Given this information the only for sure age Atrus could send you back to was whatever age linked up to the Star Fissure.
As far as the other points some of them can be resolved and some of them can not. First off, Atrus realizes that the Star Fissure has oxygen from his time falling into it. Also he knows this to be doubly true by the fact that if it was truly space then Riven would have been destroyed upon them initially opening it to trap Gehn (kinda happens later but the age was already collapsing at this point) As far as freezing to death depending on how quickly he linked while being in the fissure he might have been able to determine if it is save or not in that aspect. The ones obviously he has no way of knowing is of course the impact velocity upon landing and also how long you'd be in the fissure before reaching the other side (obviously less than 30 years but that doesn't help much)
@@classclown1024 Aaaayyyy 😎
@@FFgamesftw Keep in mind, we are only lead to believe the Stranger is mute. It may merely be that we have no way of hearing ourselves during the game. It could be the Stranger is, for whatever reason, unable to hear their own voice. Or perhaps the Stranger is able to communicate by some other means. There are several moments throughout the games where Atrus seemingly understands us. This means that either we speak in some manner which we are ourselves unable to perceive or we use some form of nonverbal communication. Regardless of the truth, we should be able to communicate to Atrus when we see him in person the first time where we came from. After all, he is surrounded by huge stacks of paper. Since we presumably spend some amount of time with Atrus in D'ni before he goes to Myst island to burn the red and blue books, we must impart something about ourselves to him.
The books are surprisingly amazing. I read most of them as a teenager and am re reading them now. Had to go online to buy them, but I’m adding them to the family library.
Yes, the stuff i'm HIRED for
When’s the next vid
@@Average_furry-43 Bro really?
@@moeclam sry
You Really need to redo this one, as you got a lot of it wrong. Most of it by omission, and starting from the Dropping of the Myst book.
Since linking books are left behind when you travel through them, to make sure Gen could not follow him to Myst, Atrus leapt into the star fissure, a hole in reality in the age of Riven. The moment he fell into the fissure, he realized that the book would not be destroyed as he had planed. It continued falling into that starry abyss of which he had only a fleeting glimpse before he linked out. Years went by and Atrus and Catherine had two sons, Sirius and Acaenar. Despite Atrus' best efforts to ease them right, the two sons turned evil. Sirius gained an insatiable greed for wealth, while Acaenar developed an unhealthy obsession for death and killing. Driven to madness by two linking books that Atrus forbade them from ever touching, the two brothers conspired to rid themselves of their parents. They trapped Catherine on Riven with Gehn and Atrus in the Ruins of Dini, and Plundered/murdered the population of every Age Atrus had ever written. Finally the brothers came to the two forbidden books, which they had saved for last. However, to their horror, the books turned out to be horrible traps that held them in limbo, unable to leave their prison. Now it's up to you, a total stranger who just happened to find a random book lying on the ground, to solve ridiculously complex puzzles that all amount to various combination locks in order to collect red/blue pages from the four remaining ages of Myst, Decide which brother is least likely to betray you, and try to find a way back home, in the sequel. Have FUN.
MrSailing101 They've got to keep it short! Besides, wouldn't all that stuff about Sirrus and Achenar spoil the game? Most of the MYSTery is figuring out what the heck happened with Sirrus and Achenar and wondering which one you should trust.
I mean, the video also left out everything from Book of Ti'ana about how Veovis and Ae'geris caused the plague that wiped out D'ni, and also about Aitrus' and Anna's involvement in Veovis's arrest and later release, which led to the plague, and also about the whole controversy that Anna stirred up in D'ni when she first got there... And for that matter, they didn't say anything about Yeesha's story either. There's just too much Myst lore to cover in a minute! I think they did a pretty good job. They didn't really get anything wrong that they included, except when they said that Atrus "inexplicably" drops the Myst book into the Star Fissure, since like you said he kinda had to drop it.
And they got it WRONG
To be fair they did get all of the lore details right (they usually leave the plot stuff relevant to game a mystery in the lore videos), but they star fissure part IS wrong like you said, Katherine escapes through the book and Atrus planned to as well (intending to hold it over the fissure before he ported so it would fall in when he disappeared and go caput, presumably) but the earth quake caused by Riven collapsing causes him to drop the book before he can teleport and then he falls in himself, noticing the book didn't explode or whatever he expected. Cue the stranger!
bubba bojanglez • The ending to Riven isn’t cyclical with the beginning of Myst, though that is an interesting theory. When I first beat Riven as a kid (like 10 or 11 years old), I totally expected the game to end with us all getting back to D’ni, Myst, and everything, so I was completely confused when we fell in the fissure without the linking book after everything we did for Atrius!
Presumably, there is another fissure on our Earth, which is how the Myst book got to us in the first place. So in Riven, we apparently fall back to where we came from in the only way Atrius knew of a connection to our world (no return linking books back to “Earth”), presumably in a gentle way that doesn’t make us die from impact or starvation - I forget how much time elapsed between Atrius’ journal entries about leaving Riven and his Myst linking book being found... certainly don’t think a human would survive a 30 year fall through space the same way a book could!
EvShrug D’ni _is_ Earth, though Atrus had no way of knowing that we were from the same world. It’s mentioned somewhere in the lore that Gehn created the Riven book by partially copying bits of other books, since the ones he made by himself were all failures, which might explain the existence of the fissure: it leads to the worlds from the books that were copied. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them was the D’ni book, which would lead to Earth.
I gotta say, the Myst series is one of my favorite game series I've ever played, especially Riven.
I knew most of this from the myst novel. It was actually pretty good.
Looooved the first one. Second was all right. Third was okay on its own, but compared to the first, it was sort of anti-climactic. Still, would definitely recommend them to anybody who likes the games!
The novels were fantastic!
I finished reading The Book of Atrus and Ti'ana. Haven't gotten to D'ni yet.
Book of D'ni is the weakest of the three (Book of Atrus is the best, IMHO). It's not bad but it's sort of all over the place when it comes to the story and it doesn't tie directly into the games as well as the other two, which is sort of a bummer.
D'ni is my favorite though. The different story's are a bit tied together but are each good. One in particular has stuck with me and often reminds me to think more about what I'm (not) seeing.
Love the books
That's what makes Myst unique, the game never TELLS you the story, you have to piece it together and figure it out yourself.
Super immersive and rewarding.
I'm expecting a part 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 to this...
It might've been more clear to point out that there are two people with a name that sound like "Ayy-trus" those being Aitrus (older) and Atrus (younger) who is named after his grandfather.
One is pronounced Eye-truss and the other Ayy-truss
This game is my childhood
+MirumExMachina You and both. My dad handed this to me when I was 6, and said, "have fun"
I thank him to this day.
They actually expanded the lore (and explained a lot more about Myst) later. For fans of the Myst series, the lore is everything- which is a combination of the games, the novels and lore announcements from the company.
To give you an idea- one of the key puzzles in Riven depends on you learning the number system and part of a language used by the "D'ni". You can't even progress unless you read through the various journal lying around, which mostly focus on expanding the world.
I never knew ANY of this while playing this game as a kid. hahaha
I REMEMBER THIS GAME! I played it on my dad's old Mac, and I loved this game so much! Although, I haven't played it in years because I got stuck and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what to do xD
It's available again, even in VR
All of the symbols in Mystcraft are either D'ni letters, numbers, or Narayani pictograms. Also, the crystal portals in Mystcraft were, I believe, a reference to Atrus' crystal viewer in Revelation and RealMyst. The mod actually does a lot of stuff highly accurately to the games, such as how the books are constructed based on fundamental features of the planet it links to.
I remember playing Myst when I was only 11... yaaaaa needless to say I didnt get far hahaha
I got stuck, then I played Riven at 11, and bought the Prima strategy guides for Myst and Riven. The guides were great, had a helpful section with hints instead of game-beating cheats, and made playing through the game pretty fun! Even without a Guide though, I highly recommend Riven even today. They did a GREAT job designing that game so you could explore a lot and find a lot of puzzles without the puzzles being a gate to further progress... you could see the puzzles (or even miss some of them) and walk past, but the more you explore, things about the world start to “click” together! Very satisfying!
The three VERY MILD hints I would give you would be to taking notes will save you a LOT of time, consider that some things eventually need power, and most importantly take your time. A relaxed pace helps, don’t worry if you don’t understand the answer to a puzzle the first time you see it, and sometimes parts of the puzzle will be in different places. If something looks like a clue, it’s probably not a red herring... critical notes could all fit on an index card, though if you’re up for it, a full journal in the same style as Atrus’ from the Myst Library about your impressions, discoveries, and notes ends up being a fun keepsake to read after you finish.
@@evshrug I had that same strategy guide for Myst. It intrigued me, since it was written like a story, instead of a standard guide.
same honestly i never manged to actually beat myst and for riven i just watched a very detailed lets play
The expression when they say " Have fun!" amuses me every time
No Sirrus and Achenar?
imnoturmum I think they were born in the island, maybe?? The player (us) didn't find the book until much later.
Then again, I could be completely wrong.
Yeah there's a huge time skip between Atrus losing the book in the fissure and the stranger actually finding it. it's unclear whether it simply lied undisturbed for many years or if the fissure flung it through time to land in front of the stranger (which is the one I assume to be the case with how it just plops in front of you at the start of the game)
Maybe to prevent Myst in-game spoilers?
@Professor Flowers, I was always confused at the ending to Riven. I’ll not give spoilers (to a 20+ year old game!) here, but it felt shocking right after Atrius thanks us for everything we did to beat the game! There was a 30 year gap between when the Myst book was lost and our player links into Myst for the first time! How do we survive the ending to Riven?!
wait, so this is where Mystcraft comes from, im learning so much
Gen isn't creating the age, he's just linking to them. Gen thought he was a god because he believed he was creating them but he was wrong.
I think that is left open to interpretation/point of view. I don't remember anything clearly stating it wan't the case outside of other character opinions (and even they were self admittedly formed to no go 'god'crazy)
This is one of the small details that makes gehn such a compelling antagonist imo. the specifics of how much you link to an age vs how much you can change it *are* unclear: atrus admits it himself when he "writes" an entire boat into stoneship. regardless of this though, gehn is clearly selfish, haughty, prideful, and abusive toward those who live in the ages he writes. his view of himself as a "god" is myopic and he is indifferent to the suffering of others. he is also insecure of his heritage as half human/dni, and is ironically racist towards all non-dni, feeling that the dni are simply better in every way than their mere "creations." all of these things combine to make gehn a truly unique and awesome "bad guy". this is how you write a good villain!!
I'm believe the official canon position is that Atrus is correct and the ages are all pre-existing worlds, but I kinda like the idea that maybe Gehn was partially correct too, and I think there are certain things in the series that are really difficult to explain within Atrus's view (like the ship in Stoneship Age). I also think it's interesting to question what responsibility, if any, a D'ni writer would have toward his ages if he was indeed creating those worlds. Obviously Gehn's whole, "I'm a god and I can do what I want!!!" attitude was wrong, but Atrus's theory that they're not actually creating the worlds at all kinda sidesteps the problem, especially since it's clear that the D'ni writers still did have a lot of power over the ages.
I also personally think that even though Atrus was a good guy, he didn't always completely live up to his own theory in practice. Especially considering how his sons turned out...
I completely agree! I think a great example of 'changing' an age comes from from Catherine did to Riven with the daggers when she was rebelling against Gehn. I believe she explained that the only way she could make them appear was to write them as if they were already there up in the sky and just so happened to fall into the world at that point. It seems the way that changes have to work are based on a mix of how they are perceived by intelligent creatures and also being physically possible to occur in the current worlds rules (like when Gehn writes out the heat from the island world to reset the drought he caused by just striking it through, he didn't write a reason for the temperature to drop back to how it was, so instead of keeping the old world it instead links to a new version that they had never visited in the first place but the temperature was still as it used to be, hence the islanders not recognising them).
No two Descriptive books lead to the exact same Age. Even if you meticulously copy every detail of the book, there's a very, VERY slim chance it'll actually lead to the same Age as the original book. Most of the time, they'll lead to very similar Ages, but still not the same ones.
I like the fact this was animated by Scott Falco. Big fan of his work.
I absolutely LOVED the MYST games. I played and completed all 5 of them, and each one is better than the last one. Although, I think the fourth was my favorite. Huh. Whatever, I knew maybe two thirds of all this.
Yeah, all of them were great, although I think Riven was probably my favorite; after that it started focusing too much on developing a story around you rather than letting you discover what has already happened. Nevertheless I love all five games, even End of Ages, which I don't think many people liked because of how different it was from every other game.
Christopher Hale You're right. I change my mind. Riven was the best, in both of our opinions.
The Myst and Riven books were amazing. Great work!
so this is where mystcraft for minecraft came from! one of my favorite mods
+ShadoZerg ShadoZerg You would be correct. I highly highly recommend the books. There's a lot more to Myst than meets the eye.
+Soultrip89 oooor the clicking
lol yes. But you only click audio books. :P
YESSSSS!!!! Finally! I've been subscribed to this channel for about a year, and have asked for Myst to be done every single week, and it's finally happened! Thank you so much!
To save you a minute : portal 3
The books are really well written. Hollywood would do well to adapt Book of Atrus into a feature film. Fantastic story potential.... Also genius series of games.
lol wtf gehn has a mullet
Props for including the storyline of the novels, though.
Those old D'ni folk were wild yo
They got the hair right, at least according to the 90s comic books. They certainly did their research.
The Myst Online: Uru Live community is pretty big, if you wanna try that out. It's just a MYST game that has puzzles and a storyline and everything, but there's also a main city-area that people often gather to speak with one another in. Bring a friend to help you with your puzzles! The creator of MYST is very active on it.
omg i'm laughing so hard, this is absolutely hilarious and genius. gonna share with my uru-friends. lol this is amazing. bravo!
I always loved the idea of writing a world. Very bibliocentric.
spoiler
i've never played this game
intenseblood Not what I expected.
You are seriously missing out
Minor correction: when linking out of Riven to trap Genn, Atrus flung himself into the Star Fissure (a hole in the world caused by a fundamental flaw in it's creation due to Genn's inferior writing ability) and then used the Myst linking book assuming that the book would be destroyed. He did this because one cannot carry a linking book that they are using and there was no other way to guarantee the book would be destroyed after his and Catherine's escape.
Because the first game was completely self-contained. Everything within Myst happened after Atrus and Catherine went there. What they told us in this video was a very fast summary of the three books about Myst that were written as prequel stories to the first game. The Book of Atrus (chronologically the last book, but written as the first) ends with Atrus and Catherine going to Myst after trapping Gehn within Riven and escaping.
I think Myst is one of the most finely crafted point-and-click games in existence, and I think it truly defined the silent protagonist. Great game, and they have RealMyst as well, for the people who didn't like having to click to go everywhere.
Seriously, check it out.
Several books were written about this series. The Book of Atrus and the book of Ti'ana especially talk about all that was said in this lore
Yup, as Lightstar said, plus the 2 expansion packs on Uru, and the 3 novels: The Book of Atrus, The Book of Ti'ana, and The Book of D'ni.
Man, I loved Myst back in the day. Still have the original Mac version on a CD somewhere.
Well, now i guess i know where the Myst Craft mod came from.
I normally don't like the arrow in the knee jokes, but you, sir, deserve applause.
i had no idea of the story of the game... but so many other memories playing this game as a kid.
There's a lot more to the story, but this does a pretty decent job of summing it up.
there is way more lore to these games then you can fit in a minute. even the first 2 sons that the first myst game revolves around are missing in this little lore piece.
This sums up like 90% of the mythos behind Myst I-V and Uru. 10/10 mate
Book of Atrus is one of my favourite books. The Book of Ti'Ana was a bit sad for me, since we all knew how it would end.
Only forgot to mention that the age D'ni is coincidentally on Earth, underneath New Mexico, specifically, which is how Ana found it, and why the Myst book ends up on Earth after it falls through the rift.
I read the prequel books; a minute doesn't do them justice.
One of my all time favorite games was Myst on the Sega Saturn, love that game!
man... myst.... that brings me back *stares at framed myst box on the wall *
As the Allies sweep across Germany, Lore leads her siblings on a journey that exposes them to the truth of their parents' beliefs. An encounter with a mysterious refugee forces Lore to rely on a person she has always been taught to hate.
they really need to make more of these type of games
Nice timing on a Myst Lore vid, SpazFox just finished his Let's Get Pissed and Play Myst series where he played through all the Myst games drunk.
This is the backstory to the series as a whole though, everything that happened in Myst happened after this did.
Definetley their best drawn LORE to date.
The Squeal to Myst is called Riven and Exile, which was the inspiration for the League of Legends Champion Riven
I know what happened to the D'ni, but I ordered the book that goes through it in detail. I can't wait for it to arrive.
One of the greatest video game series of all time.
MYST 60 hours in and you still have no idea what that switch did.
I can't believe you guys did MGS lore in a minute.
Anyone else think Josh and Dodger are the two best narrators in this series?
the myst was a point and click but was rebuilt with 3d worlds and a final age.
riven was left as is but exists for ps1
exile, revelations, and end of ages are all similar to realmyst with 3d worlds. you can find them for ps2 and xbox consoles or locate pc editions.
uru the complete chronicles was meant to be a mmorpg but was compressed to a pc only game, you can use this in 1st person and 3rd person along with using the fan site to still play the online portion and fanbuilt areas from sourcecode
Maybe you should have checked the book series that takes place before and between the games. The D'ni were actually digging their way up around the same time this lady was digging down and unfortunately there was a bit of rebel uprising with a weapon that not only caused illness but left the city rather "repainted" for a while.
I've been playing through the series since 2009, just started on Revelation yesterday. Easily one of the best game series of all time. But the backstory during Riven and Exile became so hard to follow in terms of events between the games that are just foisted onto The Stranger in the diaries, I always wondered what had happened. Also, this didn't even mention Sirrus and Achenar, who are pivotal to Myst, not to mention Exile and Revelation. Not got to End of Ages.
I never understood the Myst games when i was younger... but i had fun solving the puzzles...
Dwarf Fortress lore! (i know the lore is different every time but it would be cool to see what you guys come up with :D)
You haven't even descended into the rabbit hole that is Myst's lore.
I have never seen anything more spot on.
The most awesome part of this games is that any of it is actually seen by the player, since the stranger passes through this places way after the events have occurred. It's all related with journals and notes. So I guess the Lore guys had to extract most of this from the trilogy of novels that tie in with the games.
I can explain stuff you don't understand if you want, the D'ni have a rather complicated history. Both the first 2 novels and then some were squished into that lore there.
Literally the first thing you do in Myst is listen to Atrius explain how he dropped the book through the fissure.
The transcript is written in the description.
FINALLY! an Myst Lore,
Now give us MORE Myst Lores! (from myst 2, myst 3, myst 4, uru, and myst 5!
My most favourite game series ever! I frikin love myst!
i think gingypuffs point is only that it would be silly to make a lore only about a sequel.
Nice work, Scott :) Keep up the good job.
Love the subtle Dig Dug reference
did not realize how complex myst really was.
To each his own, I suppose. Personally, I like the way they played out the beginning of Myst. So many games hold your hand through all the objectives, but the first game gives you nothing but the intro, and getting to the island from a moving picture in a book. You have to figure out everything else yourself. The other games make the objectives more clear from the start, except maybe Uru, which was a bit vague also.
I love Myst, it was one of the first games I ever played and still one of my favourites.
You guys should do a LORE Lore in a minute!
It's not just a point-and-click, it's THE point-and-click. But yeah it won't do anything to win you over for the genre if you don't have the time for it.
I didn't even realise that Myst had a story. That's what I get for only playing the demo when I was 6.
Myst: One of the most confusing mindfucks in video game history.
What a great lore episode to find in my sub box :D I love the myst series so much!
yeah, its the system shock style of story that takes place before you play the game and while playing the game you uncover more of it.
Guys I highly recommend reading the books, at least the first. Such awesome books.
YAY! An episode /not/ voiced by Dodger. More of these, please.
mystcraft mod for minecraft makes so much sense now
I love that game SO MUCH.
I would kill to hear Sven at least read this for his own version. He should've been the one to write it. That would've been amazing.
Do Professor Layton and the Unwound Future! I'd love to see a lore of that!
Last I heard the remnants of Cyan were making a movie based on it. It was the best selling PC game of all time until the Sims came out after all.
Wow, that was... Pretty deep for a game about a dude on an island.
I don't know, considering explaining anything about Sirrius, Achenar and Myst itself would be both spoilers and pointless since its in the actual game, I think they did a pretty good job of explaining the backstory needed for Myst and Riven
I'd still want to watch the video while I read the subtitles.
Well I would be angered that that's the way that people found out about the game, but I'm happy that it still gets recognition.
This is the first lore I just don't understand...I've seen it like three times, and still can't wrap my head around it..
Even so, everybody else would just leave them trapped within the red and blue books and nobody would really want to free them!
I own Myst on like everything that I have...
Sega Saturn, PC, DS, PSP and iOS. Love the game!
probably one of the greatest games of all time
I love the image in the video where Gehn argues with GLaDOS