The Rank #1 Samira Rushes NERFED Duskblade. Here's Why.

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  • @goocheeno7798
    @goocheeno7798 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    As a Samira main I've always been a massive duskblade hater, even when it was "broken" I believe Infinity Edge and Galeforce are both better.
    I'll give a couple big counterpoints to current duskblade:
    1. You mention that lethality is always good for champions that deal physical damage with abilities. This is true, however, crit chance is more important on Samira because her ult can crit, you need to be building crit and AD simultaniously to be optimizing your damage. The passive that duskblade gives, increasing your ability damage against low health targets, does not make up for the lack of crit chance it gives compared to collector or galeforce, and even infinity edge as a first item will deal more damage. You also mention that part of the reason that lethality is good is that it increases your abilities base damage, and this is true, but Samira in particular has some of the worst base damages in the game.
    2.Ability haste is nearly a completely wasted stat on Samira. Samira's Q CD is already incredibly short, your E doesn't need to be on a short CD because of her reset mechanic, and her ult can't even be reduced by ability haste, not that it would be useful because it's only an 8 second CD. The only semblance of use Ability haste as a stat has on Samira is for her W, which if you are playing right doesn't need to be on a low CD. Collector has a simply better version of all of this as a rush item, if you were to rush duskblade, there would be no reason not to simply rush collector instead, since crit, AD, and lethality are all so good on her and she is among the best collector passive users in the game.
    the only good point I can really agree with when defending duskblade is that as a mythic it is cheaper than both IE and Galeforce, but this is mitigated by the fact that Gale and IE have crit in their build paths.
    In my opinion, dirk first buy when you can't afford B.F. Sword > Galeforce (with ingenious hunter) is probably the best Samira build for most situations. The positional advantage and damage that you gain from having galeforce gives you so much aggressive momentum and be used defensively as well. It simultaneously is more aggressive and defensive than Duskblade. It also makes you more independent and less dependent on engages from your team or support, which is great for solo queue.
    Infinity Edge is also great, not as a rush because of its build path but as a second item after either Collector or Shiv (Shiv can be built into tanky teams). It offers the highest press R for damage nuke in samira builds rn with Collector, and because of that is easier to play than Galeforce.
    Duskblade seriously has no real advantages compared to the other two Samira rush options right now. The 300 Gold price decrease from Galeforce/IE means nothing when your damage and snowball potential are simply increased by the two, and you can go Collector (cheaper item that does more damage than mythic and has better build path) first instead.
    I want to hear people's thoughts about this because I genuinely see zero benefits to ever building duskblade, especially not now.

    • @MissFortuneDaBes
      @MissFortuneDaBes  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Lots of good points, and I wouldn't be surprised if high elo Samiras switch back to IE after the buffs.

    • @st-ok8qs
      @st-ok8qs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Why lethality only increases base ability dmg ? It is good on both high scale and low scale abilites. Example nunu R has %300 ap ratio and magic pen build gives most R damage. It can deal 3.5-4k damage with magic pen build (basicially true dmg)

    • @goocheeno7798
      @goocheeno7798 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@st-ok8qs Lethality is good on AD scaling abilities, it's just that as a champion with high base numbers your lethality is getting more value since there is more damage to be applying the lethality to. Samira of course does use lethality very well since she wants to build a large amount of AD and deal lots of damage, but lethality and pen stats are the only way to effectively make your base number do more damage, so the point for samira specifically that he makes that lethality makes your abilities base damage have more value is mute since you have almost no base value.
      Both scaling and base damage are good, it's simply that base damage on the ability gives higher immediate value in the early game.

    • @goocheeno7798
      @goocheeno7798 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@MissFortuneDaBes thanks for taking the time to read my essay. I just love my champion.

    • @st-ok8qs
      @st-ok8qs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@goocheeno7798 Got it, yeah it will be better on early-mid game but i don't know how big the difference is.

  • @Rainwolve
    @Rainwolve 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Personally I don't mind more freeform unedited videos, because I get to see more of the gameplay/ decision-making of these players

  • @MrVernitrax
    @MrVernitrax 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Love this editing, no-editing was okayish, but slow mode with explanation is really cool :)

  • @piksujeij8278
    @piksujeij8278 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First time watcher, I like the slowing down editing :) This was a great video, keep it up!

  • @Aleks96Clips
    @Aleks96Clips 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    its a midbeast style video for adcs, im not complaining about that, would like to see more prominent high elo adcs cause there isnt much out there

  • @BushWookieActual
    @BushWookieActual 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I like the slow down, would have liked to see an example of the auto w-e-q auto r combo that you were describing as well, just as an idea. I know it would add another hour of editing work to do that for multiple combos but might add some value.

    • @MissFortuneDaBes
      @MissFortuneDaBes  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The combo is actually used in the last fight:)

    • @rabbirex2372
      @rabbirex2372 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This combo isn’t that’s good because you do less dmg it’s more situational then you think

  • @Katakuri213
    @Katakuri213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these style videos. Makes for great content and discussions

  • @michaelcestero3168
    @michaelcestero3168 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think your vidoes are amazing man. People will always have an opinion one way or another, but kudos to you for trying to grow and adapt. The slow mo thing was a nice touch as well. Thanks for all you do and the work you put into these videos.

  • @danielfernandezromero68
    @danielfernandezromero68 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really nice videos one of the best adc channels keep up the good work and hope it channel grows a lot. Greetings from Spain

  • @jaredturvey4662
    @jaredturvey4662 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been watching your videos since istarted playing league and always learn so much for you. Very grateful for your videos man keep it up!!

  • @killrock532
    @killrock532 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the best educational youtuber by far. Voice isn't annoying and is very clear about what is happening and why. Keep it up boss!

  • @pontusliljeblad
    @pontusliljeblad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the editing, waaaay more educational imo!

  • @awesomejerik1017
    @awesomejerik1017 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really enjoy these midbeast type videos since there isnt much content for adcs like this and to me I enjoy the format and how its laidback but informative. Hope you make more or maybe videos where you focus on general macro/micro from pros rather than champ specifications.

  • @Marko_52
    @Marko_52 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really like this new format, Wanted to learn samira for some time now and this really helps. Todays gameplays is a bit more chaotic, but that happens, not much you can do there. Really liked new slowmode eddition in the video tho, i had no idea that samira can get two stacks of her pasive with her W, it will make playing her much easyer.. xD

  • @ruslananslo6350
    @ruslananslo6350 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’d love to see a MidBeast for adc’s, these types of videos are super entertaining and educational

  • @cozimbatman4100
    @cozimbatman4100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video dude! the slow-down and explaining is pretty sweet.
    would you/possible to make the champ skills window larger- so its easier to follow when watching a team fight?

    • @MissFortuneDaBes
      @MissFortuneDaBes  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      trying to find a balance there:) but i also dont want the screen to be too cluttered if you know what i mean

  • @alienwisconsin
    @alienwisconsin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    These videos are getting better but there is still room for improvement. You need to show the item purchases more clearly and you can discuss why someone picked one item over another. Many of the other league streamers I follow do this and I think it would improve your videos.

  • @jorden27419
    @jorden27419 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just wanna say I dont mind what format the videos are in, I watch them for your insight and tips!

  • @rrutter81
    @rrutter81 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    first time viewer. i like the slow mo replay

  • @isaaqduale2904
    @isaaqduale2904 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i like the editing

  • @dolphinos3873
    @dolphinos3873 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video

  • @minnit2413
    @minnit2413 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't play lol anymore but it's always nice seeing your videos.

  • @jaykay5337
    @jaykay5337 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Liked the way you edited this video

  • @BlackFlame006
    @BlackFlame006 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think for me and probably most, we like the rune page and items upfront because when I play, I whip up your video and essentially copy paste your pages and items cause I typically won't remember the content of the video especially rune pages

  • @alexithymia6288
    @alexithymia6288 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Samira *REALLY* needs her ally dash back. Nearly every other champ in the game with a dash can either free-cast it or use it on any enemy or ally of their choosing. With the survivability nerfs via BT and ISB, she is the definition of a glass cannon and has the most punishable playstyle of any ADC since she has zero escape. Item-wise, I expect to see IE gain a lot of traction with its insane crit-amp buff in 13.14, and GF will be out the window because a 120sec cd is way too long imo.

    • @itwas721
      @itwas721 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Riot: we are going to take her ally dash away because that is so strong
      also Riot literally a few weeks later: so yeah here's Nilah with literally almost the same kit as Samira and also with 2 dashes that can also be used to protect your allies, you're welcome
      🤡🤡🤡

    • @rabbirex2372
      @rabbirex2372 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@itwas721Nilah isn’t a range champ tho so it makes up for it

    • @HyperBlazingg
      @HyperBlazingg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      samira main here, she should not have an ally dash

  • @riverdavo
    @riverdavo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey these vids are great but can you highlight some replay of a tough matchup or not an all in supp, to see what Samira can do?

    • @MissFortuneDaBes
      @MissFortuneDaBes  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      definitely a good idea for a future video

  • @jackmundy1645
    @jackmundy1645 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sam one of my fave adc. depends on the matchup but im going dusk or galeforce

  • @kawek_1405
    @kawek_1405 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Will you be making guide for ashe on season 13? im trying to learn and i like your guides

  • @jokerfever2590
    @jokerfever2590 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro i swear you are in my mind, like every video you make is about rank 1 player of an adc im using. First zeri, then samira. I also have been rushing duskblade second (i find collector first really good independent of the mythic) after the adjustment, reason being the build path and stats are really good for snowball more than ie (ive used gale force too but its more situacional than the other 2). On this new patch i still think maybe itll stay the same with duskblade for snowball and ie for scaling

  • @jerhurricane
    @jerhurricane 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought you had a guide on controls/settings. I cant find it in your playlists

  • @rabbirex2372
    @rabbirex2372 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Starting Q having a early knock up or any kind of cc you can easy just aa Q aa for a lot of dmg instead of only aa aa or having to go on

    • @MissFortuneDaBes
      @MissFortuneDaBes  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      aa Q aa is MUCH weaker than aa E aa

  • @Hagami_
    @Hagami_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When it comes to spectator things like this, it would be nice if you could zoom out a bit more so we can see more of the screen when it's centered (Shift + Ctrl + Z in the spectator)

    • @MissFortuneDaBes
      @MissFortuneDaBes  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ty for the tip. might implement where applicable:)

  • @davidjou614
    @davidjou614 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Then should i build imortall 1st or diskblade??

  • @JEPs.
    @JEPs. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Unsung rolling in his grave

  • @lukastanojevic3409
    @lukastanojevic3409 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:49 yeah do that

  • @thesuspect5823
    @thesuspect5823 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    can you make video about Aphelios pls a lot of players not playing aphelios afther nerfs but i started playing and i need to learn

  • @hoteltrivago.3034
    @hoteltrivago.3034 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I legitimately believe that lethality is horrible on almost all adcs, including Samira. Samira has damage on her Q and Ult that scale with crit, no scaling with ability haste at all and gets far less value out of Duskblade’s active than people think. The lethality from this item, assuming a high enough level to equate to a 1-1 ratio on lethality to flat pen only grants a paltry 6-7% more damage, as opposed to the over 20% bonus damage you’d be getting from the crit component on IE. This only gets worse as you stack up crit, and unless you can afford to go full lethality and have high base numbers on abilities, lethality sucks right now. It’s nowhere near as strong as magic pen, and assassins only buy it because their abilities do so much base damage.

  • @NopeFFx
    @NopeFFx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But what is the difference between a good and a bad samira player when you say all the samira just follows the plays of the supports or the team. Also duskblade is a bad item on samira, it's a big damage difference since samira scales with crit !

  • @iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw
    @iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nerfing Shiv isn't going to solve that problem of Kai'sa having a Q to smack down minion waves with on top of the Shiv's damage. The item got nerfed so many times already, chill out.

  • @pureaut1sm
    @pureaut1sm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im critical comment

  • @Sonny_h1
    @Sonny_h1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:35 can we all agree that players who do that are massive losers 💀

  • @Ionstorm
    @Ionstorm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you aware every one of your "shorts" start with you saying "ok" ? Quite irritating tbh, easy fix ^

    • @MissFortuneDaBes
      @MissFortuneDaBes  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not just "okay", but "okay, so" :-p
      Sorry to hear you find it irritating, but it's part of my branding at this point