Why Awareness of Spirits and Principalities are Returning to our Models of the World. Example China

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  • @comeintotheforest
    @comeintotheforest 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I love that you’re focusing on this, because I’m focusing a lot on this subject right now. Our YWAM base has seen a recent influx of young Americans, and while I love my countrymen it was often much easier when there was two of us and the rest were from everywhere else in the world.
    It’s become incredibly apparent there’s a certain spirit which has captured people from my country, and even the first mention of something political happens to set it off. There are certainly analogous spirits among Northern Europeans (just mention the environment) and among Latino Protestants (just say that Catholics are also Christian) and even among my Ethiopian brothers (just mention pork or secular music).
    That being said, it becomes all the more glaring when it’s the issues close to home. I appreciate your continued focus on this subject because I want to learn more where the lines exist between ideas like Geist, spirits as agents, and this ever so present national spirit which often evades the standard discipleship process. Thanks Paul.
    P.s. please pray for the family of the 11 YWAMers who died in the bus accident in Tanzania. Most of them were local leaders, many grandparents, parents and friends and there is a major loss in the lives of many people afterwards.

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd never heard anything about Ethiopians and secular music -- does this apply to the Aromas?

    • @comeintotheforest
      @comeintotheforest 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jimluebke3869in my experience at least, Ethiopians tend to be very careful about music. It could be the specific crowd I know, but secular music made them deeply uncomfortable. It’s not something unique to them though, many more charismatic denominations across the world fall into that. Among the Ethiopians though, even the tewahedo orthodox and Lutherans (ethiopia is the 3rd largest country in terms of Lutheran population if I remember correctly) this seems to be common among all Christians

    • @comeintotheforest
      @comeintotheforest 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimluebke3869 if you mean Oromo by that (I think that’s what you meant) then in my experience, yes them as well

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@comeintotheforest "Oromos"? Probably. There was an Ethopian restaurant in San Jose that I liked called "Aromas" which may have anchored me in a bad spelling.

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @totheforest Yes, it's fun to see that Ethiopia its neighbors are going Lutheran these days. They're setting up shop in some American churches that have room in their sanctuary schedules, which is even more heartening.
      Would it be interesting for some of the Bach scholars in the European-derived Lutheran services, to offer lessons to the African-derived ones?

  • @ButterBobBriggs
    @ButterBobBriggs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1:10:20 - since the Incarnation, we can and as St John of Damascus wrote, we must "image" Christ, Who is the image (Greek "icon") of God in bodily form.
    John 14.9 - "he that hath seen Me, hath seen the Father"
    Colossians 1.15 - "IMAGE (icon) of the invisible God";
    Colossians 2.9 - "fullness of deity dwells BODILY",
    2 Corinthians 4.6 - "knowledge of the glory of God in the FACE of Jesus Christ"

  • @TheDrb27
    @TheDrb27 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Maybe more late night tired videos because this was great.

  • @ChadTheGirlDad
    @ChadTheGirlDad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Easy does it Pastor Paul.

  • @CueStudent
    @CueStudent 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Possession is real. Demons are real. I am speaking from direct experience. I am viewed as crazy when I talk about it.

    • @Pseudo_Boethius
      @Pseudo_Boethius 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Amen. Don't ever stop warning people.

    • @bobtaylor170
      @bobtaylor170 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've just started watching. I'm Protestant, but think very highly of Father Vince Lampert, whom there are quite a few interviews with on TH-cam. TH-cam also has a good many recordings, most of them audio only, with Malachi Martin, whose book, "Hostage to the Devil," is so unnerving I was able to read it only one of the three times I tried.
      Also on TH-cam, there are several documentaries about Anneliese Michel, the tragic German woman who died at 24, in 1976. Was she possessed? To me, it's uncertain, but her story is fascinating.
      Believe me, if you can make your way through Malachi Martin's book, it is because the Lord has given you strength.
      I will say this: without going into too much detail, I'm convinced that I have been a person of unusual interest to the Devil. Thank God, indeed, I was saved at around age 4. I am far from significant to the work of God in the world. I'm just an ordinary man in the pew, as C.S. Lewis said of himself, the difference being that it wasn't true in Lewis' case but is in mine. If I'm right, I'd far sooner have slipped the privilege.
      Twelve years ago, a crucifix I had hidden in an inner jacket pocket was, I believe, the instrument which caused a woman whom I suspected of being demon possessed to have a seizure.

    • @SaintGerardMajellaInc
      @SaintGerardMajellaInc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe you I seen real demons

    • @CueStudent
      @CueStudent 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Describe what you would have to see.@@SaintGerardMajellaInc

    • @SaintGerardMajellaInc
      @SaintGerardMajellaInc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CueStudent No sorry

  • @geoattoronto
    @geoattoronto 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Within Christian counselling over many decades the presence of evil spirits is clear to people reporting the reality. Also it is much easier to explain alcoholism and blackouts it as helpful to speak in terms of spirit or demon alcohol. Now there are people recognizing evil manifesting in the narcissist which has me thinking of an evil spirit working through and controlling the person within the personality disorder.

    • @bobtaylor170
      @bobtaylor170 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a first cousin who, in the 1980s, was in Campus Crusade for Christ. Then, he married into a wealthy family.
      I am convinced he is a sociopath, and strongly suspect he is heavily demon influenced. I can tell you he's a monster.

    • @lawfulandlegal
      @lawfulandlegal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spirit is the root word alcohol. al-ghawl meaning spirit. al-kuhl meaning alcohol or body-eating spirit. Muslims are on point on this one.

  • @aridas4798
    @aridas4798 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The spirit talk reminds me of how St. John Henry Newman talks about ideas in his Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine. How arresting ideas utilize the minds of men to grow over time.
    "The development then of an idea is not like an investigation worked out on paper, in which each successive advance is a pure evolution from a foregoing, but it is carried on through and by means of communities of men and their leaders and guides; and it employs their minds as its instruments, and depends upon them, while it uses them."
    "It grows when it incorporates, and its identity is found, not in isolation, but in continuity and sovereignty. This it is that imparts to the history both of states and of religions, its specially turbulent and polemical character."
    "Since, when an idea is living, that is, influential and effective, it is sure to develop according to its own nature, and the tendencies, which are carried out on the long run, may under favourable circumstances show themselves early as well as late, and logic is the same in all ages, instances of a development which is to come, though vague and isolated, may occur from the very first, though a lapse of time be necessary to bring them to perfection"

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will take "Memes" for $500 Mr. Trebek ;-)

  • @callunaherissonne662
    @callunaherissonne662 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just got on a train for an hour-plus journey. This looks toothsome.... 😸

  • @matthewkilbride1669
    @matthewkilbride1669 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At 22:10, the point being made is at best a half-truth I think. He says cities are safe because of policing and CCTV; yes, but East Asian cities would be much safer than Western cities even without them. It doesn’t follow, for instance, that if Western cities adopted Beijing’s policies, they’d immediately become safe. The “spirit” of the people is actually quite important. The neighborhood in Philly where I grew up is actually much safer today than when I was young, and there are several reSons, but a big one is a “spiritual” change that’s taken place in the residents.

  • @jimluebke3869
    @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    "The culture is changing fast, and language is changing"
    No. Certain agendas are attempting to force language and culture to change.
    To stand against them in defense of the Word, is to defend Christ.
    (I realize Christ does not need my defense. Christ also does not need my good works, but my neighbor does -- and our neighbors need to hear our defenses of both Christ, and our language and culture as it is and has been.)

    • @mcmosav
      @mcmosav 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      A Bible in one hand and an old dictionary in the other…

    • @x0rn312
      @x0rn312 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Culture is always change and languages are always changing.
      You're not going to stop things from changing, but you CAN affect HOW they change.

    • @BeachandHills-hb2pq
      @BeachandHills-hb2pq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@x0rn312 You drinking milk shakes and no longer drinking Gunniss may be a change. Saying you can have 4 wives and execute rapists is a culture change that i think you do not want. Different cultures are real and not like your local one you are use to.

    • @Mooseman327
      @Mooseman327 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@x0rn312 Yes. This world is about change. It's always in flux. It never stands still, and that includes language. The elites who try to run things around here are always obsessed with the future because they're always trying to hijack where the world is going. They want to jump in front of the next parade. They're always trying to push the natural changes into other avenues and have the parade end up in the wrong place.

    • @Nicole-kc1vx
      @Nicole-kc1vx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At my university, some of my peers are trying to get a professor fired for transphobia. He hasn't directly been transphobic to anyone, but he has tweeted in support of things they regard as transphobic, they also claim he's a racist, islamophobic zionist based on other tweets.
      I was shocked to hear they've already been making repeated complaints about him, and today they showed me a document they compiled with a bunch of his tweets they dislike, they are taking it to HR.
      Apparently there are trans related posters they've put up on doors and someone has been taking them down, they have no solid proof it is him, but they are blaming him for it.
      Fighting agaisnt these agendas can really screw you over, and you likely won't see it coming. I'm sure this guy hasn't a clue he's going to be taken down soon by a bunch of 1st year PhD students. I'm sure he wasn't expecting the biological sciences department to be fully colonised by these things (I most definitely wasn't)

  • @gabbygutierrez1885
    @gabbygutierrez1885 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You work hard Paul!

  • @Parsons4Geist
    @Parsons4Geist 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sounds like we're split ontologically what is this space that is opened up in these questions . The gap get so close to closing and then we're always torn open again as lacking subjects. So close to understand the universal but a particular comes in shaping what the universal is. Spirit is in this Gap that gives life. But the spirit keeps moving and this is too much for our egos

  • @anselman3156
    @anselman3156 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Is there a souvenir shop selling pieces of tufa: tufa the price of one?

    • @PaulVanderKlay
      @PaulVanderKlay  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What a dad joke!

    • @anselman3156
      @anselman3156 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@PaulVanderKlay I can't help myself!

    • @mostlynotworking4112
      @mostlynotworking4112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I need notifications for anselman comments. He would be the store worker and his manager would say…
      and sell, man!

    • @Neal_Daedalus
      @Neal_Daedalus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is good

  • @WarInHeaven
    @WarInHeaven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    46:18 from Tolkiens on Beowulf: the gods of the Greeks no matter how anthropomorphic they were represented were most definitely cosmic forces, and the Norse gods, no matter how cosmic they were portrayed, were thought of as ancestors.

  • @FoodTruckEmily
    @FoodTruckEmily 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    54:37 my autoimmunity was healed by the woo!

  • @Neal_Daedalus
    @Neal_Daedalus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    55:09 look up Functional Movement Disorder. All sorts of ‘diagnoses’ in this bucket.

  • @NathanPK
    @NathanPK 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video. Lots to chew on.

  • @FoodTruckEmily
    @FoodTruckEmily 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Paul is salty today 😂❤

  • @jimluebke3869
    @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The problem with putting our hopes in Science, is that Science is very, very good at the material, and at the specific.
    Once you get into the relationship between things, combinatorial explosiveness blows science very far out of its depth.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know too much but not enough? Combinatorial explosiveness is wrong ended, you too easily concede to epiphenominalist woo ;-)

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@williambranch4283 Are strange attractors "woo"?

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jimluebke3869 Clearly sexual in nature ;-)

  • @mostlynotworking4112
    @mostlynotworking4112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    And I think to myself, what a woonderful world

  • @WarInHeaven
    @WarInHeaven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “Any military manual must begin with definitions because the battle field is no place for semantic debate” - when does our situation get bad enough that semantic debate isn’t an option and all is left is undeniable spiritual war?

    • @Pseudo_Boethius
      @Pseudo_Boethius 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's always been undeniable spiritual warfare for those of us who have been paying attention. We were born onto a battlefield, and as you grow in spiritual maturity, you begin to see just how horrible this battle raging all around us really is.

    • @WarInHeaven
      @WarInHeaven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Pseudo_BoethiusI completely agree with you

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Pseudo_Boethius First played toy soldiers at 4, Yankees vs Red Coats.

    • @Pseudo_Boethius
      @Pseudo_Boethius 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@williambranch4283 - For me, it was the iconic green plastic army men: USA vs Germany as I replayed WWII. We still won.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Pseudo_Boethius … my plastic was as brave as your plastic ;-)

  • @jaysunrickards
    @jaysunrickards 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pageau had a conversation with Kastrup about the 'spirit of China' and this type of spirit 'between' people that is relevant to your query here. Can't remember if it was their first or second convo, I think their second.

  • @Parsons4Geist
    @Parsons4Geist 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The gap between the explicit and implicit rules is a war to be fought over

  • @nancybrown9977
    @nancybrown9977 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The Myth of Alzheimers blew up my understanding of the "reality" of this "disease." I learned it was a shoddy concept that came to drive a LOT of research revenue, so it persists.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The grants and the spice must flow ...

    • @LordBlk
      @LordBlk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      As with many other claims.
      diving into vaccinology was a trip for me

  • @jimluebke3869
    @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "We talk about China as if it were a spirit or principality"
    True, but for that to be meaningful, we have to be at the right level of analysis. How "China" might behave in terms of Taiwan, involves a limited subset of China's leadership, through whom all the other aspects of China are filtered.
    Leo Tolstoy explicitly wrote _War and Peace_ to imaginitively explore the "essence" of the Russian people, to answer the theory that the wars between Russia and France were inevitable given the spirit of the Russians and the spirit of the French. He explored this spirit by splitting it up into its constituent Russian character archetypes (spirits themselves), and watching them play out the history of the early 19th century.
    In the end, I'm not sure that when the spirit of the gallant Frenchman finally comes on the scene in Moscow, he is so inevitably hostile to any of the Russians -- and he is certainly a pitiful figure, in his retreat.
    In some ways, Tolstoy and Kipling (of all people) seem to be on the same page there; "The tumult and the shouting dies, the captains and the kings depart. Still stands thine ancient sacrifice, an humble and a contrite heart."

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      KMT China would invade Taiwan if positions were reversed. KMT planned to invade Tibet. CCP China is Confucious with a German Jewish accent ;-)

  • @warrenroby6907
    @warrenroby6907 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr Michael Heiser has contributed much to understanding spirits in the Biblical record.

  • @rooderoo12
    @rooderoo12 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I read Carlisle when I was at Calvin. A lot of Hegel stuff here. True that quantum physics really shook things up.

  • @JamesDixonMusic
    @JamesDixonMusic 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video PVK Can I recommend you watch the comedy Osmosis Jones. Takes the idea of nation as person down a fractal level to body as nation. Would be great to get your take in this context. Plus its Bill Murray so always worth a watch

  • @TheMeditatingPhilosopher
    @TheMeditatingPhilosopher 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I ❤Jesus!
    The will of even the most good highest god, I don't claim to understand or even think that I have solid insight into that. Some years people use some words, other years a different set, but the good stays behind without a name.

  • @maxwellbliss
    @maxwellbliss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nate should read Rene Girard. His thesis gives a compelling reason for why science emerged from Christianity. Ie to protect innocent victims; Christ's murder and resurrection being the original mimetic model.

  • @jimluebke3869
    @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The spirit of Harvard, encapsulated in Tom Lehrer's version of their fight song:
    Fight fiercely, Harvard - Fight, fight, fight!
    Demonstrate to them our skill
    Albeit they possess the might
    Nonetheless we have the will
    How we shall celebrate our victory
    We shall invite the whole team up for tea
    (How jolly!)
    Hurl that spheroid down the field, and
    Fight, fight, fight!
    Fight fiercely, Harvard
    Fight, fight, fight!
    Impress them with our prowess, do!
    Oh, fellows, do not let the crimson down
    Be of stout heart and true
    Come on, chaps, fight for Harvard's glorious name
    Won't it be peachy if we win the game?
    Let's try not to injure them, but
    Fight, fight, fight!
    (Let's not be rough though)
    And do fight fiercely!
    Fight, fight, fight!

    • @callunaherissonne662
      @callunaherissonne662 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tom Lehrer is great! I've found myself humming "We will all go together when we go" in recent times, when the glow-in-the-dark sabre rattling gets loud.... ☢️

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@callunaherissonne662 Is that one the same as "So Long Mom"?

    • @callunaherissonne662
      @callunaherissonne662 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jimluebke3869 No, it's another one, same theme though.

    • @WarInHeaven
      @WarInHeaven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d be curious was this song made around the civil war by chance?

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WarInHeaven Tom Lehrer is absolutely a creature of the Cold War.

  • @luciana-anna
    @luciana-anna 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I knew that the world had accepted the concept of spirit when Jordan Peterson spoke with Tom Bilyeu. Tom could not accept the concept of God but he could immediately accept the concept of spirits like we understand them as principalities and personifications.

  • @rrg0731
    @rrg0731 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We got spirit yes we do, we got spirit how bout YOU?

  • @WmLocke
    @WmLocke 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Xi Jinping attempted to invade Taiwan and failed, some of the Chinese would say he had lost the "Mandate of Heaven". I believe that "heaven" here is not at all like the Christian concept or even a deity as such but I think it is still a metaphysical inter-subjective idea. Happy to be corrected.

    • @PaulVanderKlay
      @PaulVanderKlay  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sounds right to me!

  • @ezekielcarsella
    @ezekielcarsella 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "A little grift for ya" is hilarious

  • @williambranch4283
    @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Originally Odin was the #2 and Thor was #1. Odin was a shaman war god, a more based Loki. A king doesn't hang himself on Yggdrasil the World Tree and lose an eye ... to gain the Dragon Scroll.

    • @benjaminfranklin7263
      @benjaminfranklin7263 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Coincidentally I was thinking about this a little because I was thinking a little about the spear called Gungnir, which is Odin's spear.
      I'm a big Final Fantasy fan, and in almost all FF games, the best spear in the game is called Gungnir, except for FF9. In FF9 the best spear is called "Dragon's Hair", and I really love the description for that weapon, which is: "“Legendary spear made from a dragon king’s hair. It is known as ‘The divider of heaven’.” "
      There is another spear that is very interesting and that has been popping up in media lately, that is called the Spear of Longinus, which is the spear that penetrated Jesus while he was on the cross. This spear is sometimes called Holy Spear or Holy Lance. Incidentally, in FF9 the second most powerful spear after Dragon's Hair is the Holy Lance.
      In Neon Genesis Evangelion, the Spear of Longinus was stuck on the moon ever since the Second Impact, and just prior to the Third Impact it returned from the moon back to Earth. The Spear of Longinus is a per-requisite for the Third Impact. It's instrumental in the Third Impact.
      There is a recent video by Jonathan Pageau about the Leviathan, which is sometimes referred to as a dragon. And there is a connection supposedly between the Leviathan and the Ouroboros. The Leviathan is killed by penetrating it with a spear. Pageau draws an analogy between this killing and the crucifixion of Christ (or anti-Christ... whatever I'm confused about that). You can find Pageau's video here: th-cam.com/video/wxg468NL3S8/w-d-xo.html . Imo, it's one of his best videos.
      Remember, Christ always resurrects after his crucifixion/spearing. He has to keep coming back. Maybe this is what he meant when he said "Lord, why have you forsaken me?" I don't know. It might be an incorrect interpretation.
      It's interesting how all these symbols converge.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @benjamin franklin7263 Cuchulainn spear, Gae Bulg

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benjaminfranklin7263 Has Pageau ever done a popular outreach review of Evangelion?

    • @WarInHeaven
      @WarInHeaven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Odin was the King, he was the father of Thor. Tolkien calls Thor the “peasant god,” and Odin is the elite, the intellectual, who invented logic and speech, and writing

    • @WarInHeaven
      @WarInHeaven 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      From the Hero as King
      Odin : (to his men) Odin?
      His men : Odin!

  • @Mooseman327
    @Mooseman327 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Geometry is a spiritual endeavor, though. That I can grasp a geometrical concept and you can grasp the same concept is evidence of a spiritual world. Because where does that concept live? This is why the ancients insisted that numbers (and there are only NINE of them) are living beings who created the physical world. This is why ancient temples and the medieval churches were built with specific geometric concepts. We've lost this understanding because of our immersion in materiality. Statistics are a whole other matter. They are the physical world chopped up into abstractions. They're not alive. They're dead. They do not exist, either in the physical world or the spiritual world.

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Geometry is all about the relations between things, although not specific things.

    • @Mooseman327
      @Mooseman327 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jimluebke3869 A triangle is an idea. When I think of an equilateral triangle, you think of the exact same thing. So, no, a triangle is a thing that we can both envision without having to see an image of it.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lies, damn lies … and political polls ;-)

  • @Lascts25
    @Lascts25 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great thumbnail

  • @tgrogan6049
    @tgrogan6049 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Paul, you don't like what superstitious Jews thought about "spirits" in the First Century? So, do you think that Jesus actually talked with the Devil? Do you think that Saint Anthony talked to the Devil? It's a really simple question.

    • @PaulVanderKlay
      @PaulVanderKlay  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Those are three questions, not one.

    • @anselman3156
      @anselman3156 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      8:26 - 8:36 He says he is "not sceptical about the devil and his angels".

    • @tgrogan6049
      @tgrogan6049 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PaulVanderKlay Yes and no are nice.

    • @ButterBobBriggs
      @ButterBobBriggs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@tgrogan6049 yes, Jesus and St Anthony talked to spiritual entities, and my wife heard her mother say goodbye from miles away the minute her mother passed away, my grandma really saw her sister before she died, my mom really saw my grandmother before she died, your wife really did see the Virgin Mary. Their experiences were real.

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tgrogan6049 If you like being forced into a crooked frame, they're fine.

  • @erics4802
    @erics4802 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That "majoritarian" policy is a violently enforced "majority" by an elite minority. You can safely bet he's saying what he's saying so he isn't prohibited from re-entering (and re-leaving). He is a pawn whether he knows or appreciates it or not.
    That reporter knows what he's doing, and he's doing it deftly... assuageing and downplaying worries while acknowledging them just enough to not arouse too much suspicion.
    th-cam.com/video/FMAD9_PUfhs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=jRts0tkr72Di1mTd

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Government seeks control to increase order. Ultimate order is always tyranny.

  • @SacraTessan
    @SacraTessan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Importsant questioning....the science of enoughness

  • @joecross720
    @joecross720 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💚

  • @williambranch4283
    @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The guy who was crucified ... is not dead. Depends on what "dead" means. Not in Judaism or Islam. Christian only.

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not a tomb-dweller. Not worm-food. Not silent. Shuffled back to this mortal coil. Returned before joining the choir invisible.
      I'd better stop before I go fully Python here.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @jimluebke3869 Forced Latin declensions are nothing, I have Coptic conjugations waiting for you!

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@williambranch4283 I can sympathize with Mark Twain, who "would rather decline two drinks than one German adjective."
      I'm still waiting for the fireworks to go off, when the "other side" -- the Grammar Naxis -- finally get ahold of pronouns.
      Nominative, Accusative, and Genitive? Ha! Try Dative, Locative, Vocative, Ablative, and Instrumental as well! (And if you get them wrong it's not their job to educate you, you'll have to have words with HR...)

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jimjuebke3869 Sanskrit is so old, it keeps all the PIE grammar … Aiee!

  • @callunaherissonne662
    @callunaherissonne662 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe 'animating spirit' would be better replaced by 'egregore', to avoid confusion with the non human-generated beings of the spiritual realms. Not that egregores don't gain some independent existence - think 'budding-off', amoeba-like - but we are where thay start. Perhaps Frankenstein's creature is a better analogy.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All societies are monsters created by their founding Dr Frankensteins.

    • @LordBlk
      @LordBlk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My question is, are not egregious ruled by spirits. In the way that Genesis describes how the nations were corrupted by them

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LordBlk The pagan nations had their own protective spirit. It was the Jewish claim that only their protective spirit was true.

    • @LordBlk
      @LordBlk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @williambranch4283 well, according to the Hebrew scriptures. The "shaddeem" which are those "pagan gods."
      They are all "elohim."
      It's not just that yahweh is the only true one, but the greatest one/father of them.
      Dr.Heiser has some amazing work on the spiritual worldveiw of the ancient near eastern people. How it intertwines with the sumerian/Babylonia and Egyptian mythologies.

    • @callunaherissonne662
      @callunaherissonne662 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LordBlk So ruled by, rather than being any kind of spirit. My next wondering would be about the originating impulse behind the egregore - from where does the seed come?

  • @williambranch4283
    @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    PVK ... do you believe in Uncle Sam? ;-) Spirits only flourish when they are believed in.

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The burned-out used car lots of Kenosha, Wisconsin make it hard to debate whether the "fiery but mostly peaceful" spirits were real or not, even if the rest of the country disbelieved.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jimluebke3869 Devil’s fire of course.

    • @Pseudo_Boethius
      @Pseudo_Boethius 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jimluebke3869 -- You had to bring up Kenosha, didn't you? Good man!

  • @Perry.Okeefe
    @Perry.Okeefe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im still in love with my ideas about eschatology. I have a belief very similar to Malcolm and Simones.
    I think it's the only way we can justify suffering in the world. If life/evolution needs to happen for God to exist someday (even though god would technically always exist because once a being like that is created time is no longer an obstacle) then every part of life is absolutely essential.
    You cant have an evolving species without some mutation and suffering. So children dying with bone cancer becomes imbued with incredible meaning. They become an essential part of the process that leads to the ultimate eternal good. God.
    The ducks in the pond in your back yard, the mosquito you just swatted, all essential parts of the process. Life becomes pregnant with meaning if life evolves into god someday.

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The end point of Life is Death. Is that progress? Justify evil? Here's the rub ... Based on the existence of evil, to deny G-d or accept G-d in spite of that? Breaking a few eggs to make an omelet is the sentiment of NYT vs Stalin's purges.

  • @jamesmaclachlan6595
    @jamesmaclachlan6595 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You shouldn't call him Algo, you should call him Al Gore.

    • @Smithistory
      @Smithistory 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He did invent the Internet after all.

  • @ChadTheGirlDad
    @ChadTheGirlDad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    First?

    • @PaulVanderKlay
      @PaulVanderKlay  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Sneaky sneaky! the playlist sneak even before I published it. Well played! :)

    • @hankkruse4660
      @hankkruse4660 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Last?

    • @ChadTheGirlDad
      @ChadTheGirlDad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@PaulVanderKlaywell I’ve got lots of listening to get to. King work day ahead

    • @jimluebke3869
      @jimluebke3869 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If this is too personal please just ignore it, but it's tangentially relevant to what Vervaeke's thinking about these days...
      ... Is "rock bottom" where a sense of disgust finally sets in, in a motivational way?

    • @callunaherissonne662
      @callunaherissonne662 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I tell my eldest grandchild that he is 'primus inter pares' when he tries playing favourites 😊

  • @tgrogan6049
    @tgrogan6049 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your listeners might be interested in the history of superstition of the Jews during the first Century thought.
    "As might be expected from the universality of the belief in demons and their influence over the human race, the Jews at the time of Jesus occupied themselves much with the means of conjuring them. "There was hardly any people in the whole world," we have already heard from a great Hebrew scholar, "that more used, or were more fond of, amulets, charms, mutterings, exorcisms, and all kinds of enchantments."(4) Schoettgen bears similar testimony: "Cæterum judoeos magicis artibus admodum deditos esse, notissimum est."(5) All competent scholars are agreed upon this point, and the Talmud and Rabbinical writings are full of it. The exceeding prevalence of such arts alone proves the existence of the grossest ignorance and superstition."
    Cassels, Walter Richard. Supernatural Religion, Vol. I. (of III) An Inquiry into the Reality of Divine Revelation . Kindle Edition.

    • @Pseudo_Boethius
      @Pseudo_Boethius 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you think, even for a second, that it was just the JEWS who wanted defenses against the Dark Arts, you are a first class fool. Everywhere on earth, in every culture, the experiential knowledge of "evil spirits" is far more real than this big ball of dirt we live on. Even atheists believe in the devil...the smart ones, anyway. You don't find shamans and witch doctors in every single culture on earth just because they were all deceived.