New Dahmer Recordings | Serial Killers and their Family Relations
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- Newly released recordings are offering insight into #JeffreyDahmer‘s thoughts, more than 30 years after he was convicted of murdering 15 boys and men. A series of phone calls with his father reveal what drove Dahmer to kill. Our #VinniePolitan breaks down the relationship between serial killers and their families.
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send them directly there , God doesn't want YOU to not be discerning.
Dahmer at least was willing to talk about it and give insight into his thinking !
Killers who admit what they did I always hate less than the ones who pretend they're innocent and that type usually talks badly of the victims as well. It's the lying and disrespect that makes everything worse to me.
Yeah, he pretty much pleaded with law enforcement to get it arranged for medical professionals to be able to study his brain. He always said that he didn't understand why he became a serial killer or why he had such disgusting & twisted fetishes (I guess that's the right word?) And he wanted something good/helpful to hopefully come from the evil that he knew was inside him.
So true! He didn't have to do that.
We just can never forget that JD did some of the most horrific and disturbing things to every single victim. I could care less about his brain or any other part of him , the moment that he became room temperature this world became a better place.
JD also admitted to other victims he wasn't even charged with killing.
Props to Dahmer for taking full accountability once he was caught instead of the horror court show Bundy put everyone through
He's the only serial killer who really didnt know why he did what he did....
@@thewanderer1139 But he dd. He even says. He was socially awkward and had a fear of abandonment.
@@pagliacci2942 listen to his full interview
Now that a justifiable reason isnt it@@pagliacci2942
You also have to remember Ted Bundy wasn't seen as guilty epically in the beginning. Jeffery was caught red handed with skulls and photos of his victims in his apartment it would have been pointless to try to lie himself out of that.
When you see these men you realize that crime can take any face and beauty is no repellent for evil.
Dennis Rader tried to calm his wife down about the BTK killer is back. He said that, she donesn't have to worry, she is in safe place.
My grandmas brother was married to the mother of Richard Ramirez. He wasn’t his bio father, but stepfather. Although they were equally horrible and cruel fathers. My grandma really distanced herself from her brother because he was a major drug addict and so was his wife (richards mom). They would steal anything they could to sell so they could get drug money. One of the last straws was at her and my grandpas wedding. But she apparently had photos of Richard that day at her wedding. She hadn’t seen him since he was a teenager and hadn’t seen her brother or his wife either. They all lived in the Bay Area and around the same area but were still estranged and didn’t ever visit each other. When the news broke about Richard being caught and arrested my grandma had a mental breakdown. She locked herself in the garage and tore into her wedding album to burn the photos of Richard and any pictures where he, his mom, and her brother were in the back. She never would’ve destroyed that album which was her world but the news about Richard made her want to erase him from every area of her life. She made her kids keep it a secret until she died. I had no idea. Something we would do together was watch movies with Shemar Moore, she loved him so much. I had watched Criminal Minds since I was little because of my parents. I would always ask my grandma why she didn’t want to watch it considering Shemar was on it. Something I never realized is that it’s because richards face is the first they show on the intro where they have the backdrops of serial killers.
This was horrifying to see unfold on tv in the early 90s when he was found out. Watching the barrels being removed from his apartment building. Hearing the testimony of the surviving victim. The families of the victims statements at the sentencing. It dumbfounded me, to think of a human being not only serial killing gay men and boys of color, but eating them.
there weren’t just boys of color though as u call them 😑😒 his first victim was yte
I was 10 yrs old and live in Australia and I still remember it being on the news
No kidding. He didn’t live far from my family and went to school with friends of mine.
I was 8 when he got caught its always fascinated me his mind not because its cool or anything but the the mental illness side of it i feel like he was truly sick and needed help
First the father drove the mother insane then he nurtured the boy into a source of perpetual income
He asked for no mercy in his statement because he knew it wasn't capital penalty state
The victims should be entitled to at least half the marital assets. Like Danny Masterson, they are hiding money from victims
No, the victims were not victimized by the wife. She did nothing to harm them. The wife is most often, although not always, the FIRST victim of the serial killer. He kills her with his toxicity, which usually shows up in females as breast cancer. The more narcissistic the woman's partner is, the most likely she is to develop breast cancer and to die from it if she stays with him.
A serial killer robs the victims of the rest of their lives. However, he robs his wife and children of THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. Every moment, every once-treasured memory, every holiday, all the family photos, the home they share becomes like living in a graveyard, everything they once thought was true in discovered to be a lie. That is why they are the first victims.
The murdered victims had a life, a loving family (sometimes, not always), and usually had real relationships before they were killed. It is the rest of their life that they are robbed.
Rapists can do similar things unless the rapist knew their victim for decades before they prey on them. If the latter occurs, that victim is also robbed of all their once-treasured memories with the person they now know as a predator. They have to deal with all the cognitive dissonance and extreme trauma of knowing all that time the predator was just grooming them for predation, all the while pretending to be someone else. That is a major mindfck, and it usually results in that person losing several years of their own life with full-blown PTSD.
Bro the victims families got their fair share just because everytime w show, novie or documentary is made on Jeff doesnt mean they have to claim money every time yes respected and victims remembered but you dont have to go and fight and claim for money everytime thats just greed which i feel like by now this many years later the victims families are just doing it for money now its been 30+ yrs now
Though his father was not a serial killer, when I heard of some of Collier Landry's experiences after his father murdered his mother, that is what upsets me most. He was just a child at the time, yet he was abandoned by his family (grew up in foster care), bullied in school, and other atrocities.
being bullied in school is an atrocity?
@@blobcity3591 - It does not matter what is done to a person but how that person PERCEIVES it. There are killers I have interviewed who were upset for decades over the tiniest slight.
@@blobcity3591 Yes.
@@blobcity3591 My bullies groped me, stuck sharp objects in my butt, beat me up while the by standing kids where cheering at them for "teaching the f@ggot a lesson", threatened to torture and kill me and my family, and described horrible scenes of me and my parents faving p3d0philic, ¡ncestuous, and coprophilic/coprophagic sex to me, all while laughing at my horror. If I beged them to stop they would just get worse, I also tried to report them to the school authorities, which only made everything even more vicious and actually I got punished for "provoking" them.
Now come again?, You wonder if bullying is an atrocity?, I mean, they simulated gang-r@pe on me as a fun game, which basically was just regular gang-rape, but without penetration or taking anyones clothes off, though some of them did flash their genitals at me while making homophobic remarks of me "wanting it". Mind you, this is not an extreme case, this is just standard practice in most public schools here in Mexico, and I seriously doubt it is any better in the US. I think you must have either been one of the bullies yourself (maybe not the main one, just one of the groupies), or just one of the by standers who enabled them because you thought it was a fun game. I hate the word "bullying", particularly in Spanish because people don't know wtf does it mean, and in both countries, people seem to think it means playing pranks on the "school weirdo", for being a weirdo, because the victims deserve it for being "effeminate" (did I just accuse you of living in a bubble of privilege, and being complicitly bigoted against LGBTQ+ and neuro-divergent kids?, Yes!, I totally did!, because you probably are if you think bullying is no biggie!). Torture, would be the accurate descriptive term for this horrendous $h¡†, alongside Child-On-Child $EXUΔL Abuse/Harassment/Assault, because that is what it is, a bunch of casually enabled acts of mental, verbal, emotional, physical and $exu@l violence on vulnerable young people, by a bunch of morons (like you), completely oblivious to the suffering they are inflicting on people who simply are different from you. Sorry,, but if you participated in any of this truly heinous $h¡†, even if you where one of the casual bystanders, I think you are pettier, $h¡ttier, and , more vile and insidious than any serial killer or mass shooter, also because you are still allowed to fool around, and raise children, and participate in parent associations, and vote people into office.
Im a police office and years ago when i was in the police academy one of the lead investigators in dahmers case came in to talk to us. This case was so unbelievable. The things that people dont know is best to protect the victims and their families. The things that we were told were shocking and unbelievable for a human to do to another human being
There was a picture of one of Dalmer's victims, headless, and posed in a tub that was circulating the internet. After that, I didn't want to know any more of the details. Incidentally, a man named Tony Podesta had a statue of this crime scene body displayed in his house. Some people are really vile.
I don't understand your comment about what people don't know
@@merricat3025they’ve probably kept a lot from the public bc it’s just too graphic
There is one thing about this serial killers there manipulate cone .They take the church to get away with there evilness not even rehabilitation could change them . Im sorry just how i feel .There brain has chemical issues his sorry not change this families still suffer i lost a daughter . U put him out they do it again best thing is only one thing 😥
What is worse than rape murder mutilation and cannibalism?
Keith Jesperson’s (aka Happy Face Killer) daughter, Melissa Moore, who had a TV program for a while, said he was a great dad, overall, but also exposed a dark side to himself at times. She said he told her once when they were on a family getaway that the place where they were would be a good place to hide a dead body - which was later discovered as a dump site of his. He shared with her once that he knew how to kill a person and get away with it. On another trip they were walking across a bridge and he picked her up by the ankles and dangled her over the side and seemed to enjoy her terror.
I wonder why they are putting these three together? Jeffrey is deceased. Jeffrey wasn't anything like these two family working men/ serial killers. Besides, he was- killed inside prison. However most important he genuinely seemed remorseful.
The exponential growth of the J.Dahmer fanclub is a real indicator of the state of a culture or society. It's one thing to study crime and its prevention. It's another to get people worked up in to a frenzy with a big stiffy. Really can't imagine a crappier thing to do. And yet..
Where do I sign up
The only one talking about stiffies is YOU. What is wrong with you?
Actually, what I write about is that he is more like an avatar of what is wrong with the culture itself, not vice versa.
Dahmer made his own body into a "graveyard " because he rather retain them " forever " than to experience loneliness rejection and insecurity again ( in his weird perception ). Somehow those killers are like all of us in regards to needs , fears, anger etc. BUT they have a highly unacceptable way of expressing it .
I cant stand his parent's.
“How does that happen?”
I’ve asked myself that a thousand times. Thanks for diving into such muddy water.
Back in the days of “villages”, they would come together and decide someone of such trouble needed to be killed, but in a caring way. And before more tragedy can happen.
Did it speak on the village? Who is to say but there’s ALOT to say about STOPPING them as quickly as possible.
Indeed-HOW?!
As they would of said some demonic possession
I tried to binge watch the court videos on this guy on your website and the navigation was difficult.
This guy here…scariest one to date IMO. Maybe because I live in MN 🤷♀️
Chanhassen here
My 14 year old was just admitted into a hospital for behavioral healthcare. I hope and pray that my child does not everyone having this kind of person. I can tell you that I will be her first victim if anyone is. I've pressed so hard for her to be just a good person, and i think that maybe I'll be the one that is in her sight. As long as I'm the only one, I think that maybe I'll at least maybe she'll be stopped before she gets to this level.
Female serial killers exist, but they are rare. They usually don’t kill alone, but “work” with the help of others, usually a man.
@@elainehiggins713not necessarily they usually are in the medical field and women not all of them use poisoning
Great show, Vinnie!
That's most definitely a messed up concept. I can't imagine knowing my son turning out to be a serial killer.
I believe Jeffery truly repented. He definitely deserved the death penalty, but I'm glad he repented.
He was not sorry. He bragged about what he did in prison after this.
That was a sham.
After hearing this 12:50, I'm afraid that he faked his conversion just to satisfy his father..
@@gamingqueen3913 Humans are very complicated. I imagine he felt sorry in some moments and not sorry in other moments.
It’s always “good people do bad things” but “bad people never do good things”. I believe serial killers can do good things at points in their lives, like raise children and care for their family, so I don’t think it’s fair to say that just because they did some horrific things that they’re 100% evil and everything in their life was done out of selfishness and manipulation. Are they even truly bad people at heart or are they good people gone very bad…I guess that goes back to nature vs nurture.
I agree i also believe jeff was sick he needed help!
Jeffery's father seems like a really nice man who tried to do his best by his children, how sad for him and the rest of the family as well as the victims and their families the whole thing is very sad.
Do you really think so? I mean he left Jeffery alone for months, practically showed his son about handling a corpse, and I felt like kind of ignored the signs that his kid needed help. But I also wouldn’t want to blame his dad for all of the horrific crimes he committed.
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Dahmer's ex boyfriend said he told him his dad molested him when he was little
Yes, I bought and read his book in the 90’s…. One of the few, I was young 😂
@@dishbitsI don’t know all the small details about him, just the overall story. How did his dad show him to handle a corpse!?
I feel so sorry for his wife.
Oh Godness, here we go, Kerri Rawson had to come on of course. How many more times does she want milk the fact that her father is BTK? Nothing better to do? She makes out that she is the biggest victim of BTK while the relatives of the real victims that were killed by Dennis Raider are silent. And why is she on television and the internet all the time anyway? She had noooo idea so what could she possible contribute that is in any way helpful in preventing other SK's from getting away with their evil actions for decades?
his dad is profiting on these poor victims and Their Families??
Jeffrey's dad has given all the money he's made to the victims families, where as on the other hand the BTK killers daughter has made lots of money from her father's crimes and never given any of it to the victims families.
well I hope so...he's an odd fella too@@sugarsundae3400
He was sued by the victims' families and had to share the profits of his book. He kept all money from interviews and documentaries.
Nobodys talking about the drugs their moters usually would be taking throughout pregnancy. Back then many of those drugs were legal and there were no counter indications about using them, doctors would prescribe loads of pills, some of which as banned today. It has a lot to do with fetus development and brain chemistry. Then add abandonment, toxic environment and trauma on top.
That is why I never take drugs today. A medical doctor is a dangerous person to see for anything related to health.
Jeffrey is the ultimate boogeyman
I have had nightmares of Jeffrey! Damn! I’m a horror fan and I know a little about serial killers bit Dahmer’s case just gives me the absolute chills! 😭
Jeffery seems so normal he had a good upbringing which makes it all the more harder to understand why he did what he did.
@@sugarsundae3400in some cases it makes no difference whether an individual has had the best upbringing and family or not. For us trying to wrap our heads around these horrible horrible things like this that happen we always try and find a reason because it’s even more frightening that so called normal individuals could just do it because they can and want to
Albert Fish has that title.
He was probably one of the most insightful though.
We will never understand what they were thinking.
Family 1st always. Serial killers are not about their family they are mentally not okay to have a family and be killing someone on the side. That's deranged
wtf are you talking about
@@keivebeatsshe got high and is scrolling TH-cam.
@@YIKESMFHell no 😂😂😂
I think they divorce immediately, because they always wanted to get away/escape and this gives them a legitimate reason.
I think some are born with it in their DNA, and some people are born normal but from consistent abuse and neglect become cold and hardened. Killing becomes easy for them because they were torn apart as a child or teen to the point of no return. And some are a combo, of course.
Finally someone who's not deflecting the blame away from parents.
What? People always blames the parents, especially the moms. This is nothing new.
His dad took all his recordings to then turn around and write a book let alone take part in this documentary 🤔 just astonishing 🤨 sick
Monetizing ppls pain is not wrong. 😂 get money 🤑🤑
@@samanthalake5011💯
Poor man is just trying to help others get an insight of his son's thinking..he turned 87 this year and has recently lost his wife..what are you even expecting him to do with the money that he'll gain from this?? He's living in a house all alone struggling with his health- He took part in this documentary in a hope to help others with their studies and I truly respect Lionel for sharing these tapes..
I don’t know what the crime rate is for the State of Wisconsin but when it comes to the worst most awful criminal minds are for the most part in Wisconsin. Dahmer , The Slender Man case , Steven Avery , Darrell Brooks who drove through the Waukesha Christmas Parade , so many that have become the kinda stuff that movies are made of.
Wow, very good point. 😮
Don't forget Gein!
Depends on what statistic you want. WHICH violent crime?
@@drgaryb13 Vinnie should do a show on Wisconsin killers!😱
@margaretcastellano3167 - Actually, the likelihood of being killed by a serial murderer in the U.S. is in direct proportion to state population. The most likely state is CA; the least likely is SD.
13:15 did jeff just admit that his father is failing?💀
If you haven't watched Jeffrey's final (full) interview, you should. He gives stunning insights into why he came to think of people as just things to use and keep. And if you haven't seen the several interviews with the pastor in jail he wished to speak with, it is a must watch. His name is Roy Ratcliff.
They just wanted to try getting away with something and then they did. They don’t care about people they don’t know except if the stranger is useful to use up and throw away.
Love your channel🙏have blessed evening too you and your family🙏
I love Dr Judy! I've watched her for years on medcircle 🥰👍
Isnt it a bit early to put Rex Heuermann in the intro with other serial killers when he has not been trialed yet. This could probably get you sued if he is found "not guilty"
Vinnie is an absolute 😍 favorite.
I feel bad for the families of killers. Like Lionel seemed to genuinely love his son, and that must've been difficult knowing what he'd done. I don't know if I could've kept a good relationship with my child if I was in his position, but I'm also not a parent.
His father gave me very weird vibes. Anytime I saw him give interviews afterward. Such a creepy vibe. 😳
@@YIKESMFI think dad is on autism spectrum.
@merricat3025 - Dahmer was believed to have been, but people on the spectrum are RARELY violent. It is thought he was both on the spectrum and sexually sadistic.
@gary5080 I was referring to dad being on Spectrum and him seeming odd ( the person commenting about creepy vibes from him). Dad demeanor reminds me of some people I have met with autism. I can see that with Jeff, too. Jeffrey is an interesting case of what happened. His childhood wasn't that bad from what we know. I always wondered if his mom did something to him. She was quick to say, "It's not her fault," but maybe she didn't. He could have been a lonely little boy with the wrong genetics traits from both parents and add gay in the mix at time harder to be gay. I always felt someone SA him as child.
@@drgaryb13he was neither on the spectrum nor sadistic. He had paraphilias and was morally bankrupt
That was so interesting
I hope the proceeds from the new book go to the victims
They do the dad made sure of it
I'm usually more impressed with court tv! This piece is tooth pulling SLOW! Get to the freakin point!!
What's the matter, you want deep information in a soundbyte because you have the attention span of a gnat?
Families can be a blessing or a curse, for sure.
Well, at least he spoke and was cooperative with police officers.. sure he helped them to "understand" more the mind of an serial killer.
Sick of BTK's daughter being a talking head all of a sudden. Go debrief somewhere else.
Took time, but he got what’s coming to him. Whole thing was sad. He was sorry imo.
Random thought: I'm surprised he owned fish 😂😂😂😂
Families also compartmentalized, as they were getting a lots help.
Dahmer just seems like he was born this way. He struck me as so tired. His parents exacerbated his depression. His father has been making bank off him ever since.
I agree
The whole dead animal thing
Then leaving a troubled teen boy alone?
Thats when he first killed
He needed to be in an institution
I agree his dad was cold and very distant emotionally. Not saying he is an uncaring father he definitely loved Jeff but was sometimes extremely negligent
Going by all the research I did on this case it seems like Lionel was more involved than your average father. Especially considering the time period
This is not "NEW" info this has already been aired if you already did your homework 🤨
All Guilty As Hell.
He was the only one who was aware about it, that something wasn't right with him...
I don't think introducing religion/god/satan makes things any easier. The serial killer is already dealing with fantasy thinking. Introducing anything supernatural instead of logical, critical thinking is just gonna mess them up even more.
It’s all they have left. Salvation for the rest of his life and his afterlife. Logical, critical thinking…..won’t help him now.
@@Dustandfuzz If you're using critical thinking & logic you'd ask, is there an afterlife? Using critical thinking doesn't require you to pray. I mean what if you pray to the wrong god? It's just silly.
@@DaddyOfTheSugarVariety the wrong God? oh Lord here we go.
@deadmanswife3625 What do you mean, people believe in hundreds of gods. Which one do you believe in?
BTK really spilled his guts. Will Rex?
I'll never forget the song, Jeffrey Dahmer went to heaven...
Dr. Brucato :)
Skip to 5:48 to avoid the pointless rambling.
It seems like they are mixed up sexually.IMO
It always starts with porn
@@pinkorganichorse Not always.
People watch porn all the time and don't kill or eat people!! 😂😂😂😂
Lionel is a little serial killerish to me too. 😅
Children do in fact, learn what they live. 😢
@@YIKESMF facts
Then you should learn more about serial killers, beyond silly television stereotypes.
I think Lionel secretly deep inside admires "the media status persona" that Jeffrey became after the murders and that's why he became closer to his son again.
@@drgaryb13 are YOU a serial killer?!
BTK terrifies me. 👿
Dahmer's father looks like a twin of that minister who made friends with Bundy. Talks like him too.
Get to it
What does this mean?
Hello from Milwaukee, a great place on a great lake!!! Dahmer is history!!!
Click bait
I feel karen should never have been charged with murder.
I have watched every horror movie and love all things horror, but the things he did, I couldn’t even watch the Netflix series I had to skip stuff. I always felt nauseous throughout
I stopped watching on the second one in the movie. I couldn’t stand it either. Did his dad make 💰💰 off that series??
Culture, how we do things.
Everyone gets down on the spouses. Good grief, if you can do this for years and not get caught, why is it so implausible that you could keep it secret from your wife? I'd guess the most likely clue they'd have is pressure in the bedroom to do things they don't like. Aggressive body language and facial expressions. Is sex with him creepy, to put it bluntly.
Dennis never had sex or raped his victims and only had sex with his wife and masturbate a lot
Click bait. Theirs nothing new here
'different columns' 😂
Nobody has any idea what you're talking about.
Why would your wife and son watch you on television and they can see you at home?🙄
They know how to isolate wife.
Dahmer has always fascinated me. I actually feel sorry for him as he had an aweful childhood and he sort of killed and kept body parts because he did not want his victims to leave him. Very sad and one could see that he showed remorse for what he did. May his Soul RIP
Committing heinous crimes because you’re lonely is pure insanity just as heinous is having sympathy for a serial killer who’s taken the lives of innocent people in such horrific ways. The only souls who should RIP are Dahmer’s victims not him.
There’s nothing to feel sorry for except for his victims and their families. He knew what he was doing was wrong reason he hid it. He’s not crazy.
@@dreamcrazy36 it blows my mind that someone would feel sorry for a SK 😳
He’s always been my fave.
Truly fascinating dude! I think because he’s forthcoming and sympathetic in some ways for it. It’s also kinda worse because he still kept doing it, despite FEELING bad for those he hurt around him. It was this intense fear of abandonment and loneliness he suffered from. But I mean… really?!
There’s therapy, reaching out for help, building relationships and friendships, etc. what he did was totally sadistic and evil and twisted. Just consider what he was actually really doing and the fear he put into these folks in their final minutes. And then what he did to them after.
I understand feeling sympathetic for him IN SOME WAY - just not as an excuse for what he did. He totally got what he deserved and that’s that. The fact is.. there’s really no cure for these types of folks and the world is better without them.
Who cares about their families?
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SIN! 👿
WOW f in WOW
THOSE ARENT THE REAL VOICES OF JEFF OR HIS DAD!!!
Dahmer wasn't stupid.
How did his Father react when he found out that his son was even eating his human victims?
Normal
Is Jeffrey. D. The biological child of his parents?
This is highly speculative
Be specific. I personally see nothing speculative.
starts at 548 you will thank me later
Accidentally manslaughter or the people in the house did. Weak case for prosecution.
The Bad Seed.
What excites him.
Big glimmers, Strangulation. The families knew,
like X 100
Dahmer didnt believe in God he wanted to continue being a beast , simple. Why try to understand them?
*dragged
This documentary is sus 1:06
He just had a thirst for blood and killing was his only way, might've been a hobby for him. He exactly knew what he was doing.
Seems like a nice guy
why are we so sure these family members didnt know anything lol
He was a very down to earth serial killer if that makes sense. Lol