Working on revising my go to winning craps strategy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2024
- A work in progress give me your ideas in the comments. Will be working on this one for a while
Questions
Should I pay the insurance ?
Should I pay more insurance to make mor on the sevens come out ?
Should I place the 6&8 for to cover the don’t
Should I go up on lost bets ?
Anything you can think of. Let’s make one that wins consistently?
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I like your tried and true strategies, no need to improvise.
I'm getting ready to go on a cruise......thanks for the channel!
Love the Videos!! I like the idea of placing the point. I also like the DC instead of the DP. See ya up at Cherokee sometime!!
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I liked the first version, it had a much lower house edge than this new version. This new version will lose more and eventually wipe out your bankroll where as the former didn't lose much and was less volatile 🤷🏻♂️
Hey Crappy, love your videos. On the second Yo that took the DC bet you didn't take down the DC. Opps. It's all good brother, not giving you a hard time. Keep them coming brother.
Stop it
just stick with the "cold table" Dont pass, come, come, DC....Just use black chips instead of Green
For me personally, dark side is the only way to play. Mathematically it's the best strategy
Just starting to watch this and thanks for doing it again, as I requested on your last vid.
Before you even start, my play is to never, never, never, ever, ever, ever chase a loser. IF the shooter beats you on one cycle, then let him go and wait for the next shooter! Discipline of not chasing losses will win the day.
Thank you, again, for doing this one.
After watching this one now, I prefer the original version you did last year. $100 in quarters and play it out with no hedges. Use any winnings on a particular shooter to keep the play going. If you lose the hondo on a shooter, you're done with him.
If your hedging you lay bet you might want to lay the 5 or 9 for $75. $5 hop each on the fives. Personal I wouldn't hop. If you get knocked off the 5 or 9 you still have a 3 to 2 favorite on the don't pass line bet.
Thanks for this roll out. If it were me, I would make 3 mods. Lose the hop insurance, the bleed is excessive. Then you can lay just twice the DP. I would alternate the lay 4 or 10 opposite of the most recently observed one rolled. You were rolling a lot of 4s, but I think it only bit you once. After getting hit a couple times by craps on the come, add a $4 three way craps ($1 on 2 & 12, $2 on 3).
Maybe on the insurance Hop the easy 4 and get the hard 4 on the 7 to 1. More at risk if the 7 comes, but the lay can help cover that since you lay more than what you need to cover the come out 7
Hello Crappy,
I saw 2 errors that left you with $180 more in your checkout. In the end you don't have 125 plus, but 55 minus.
In 21:50 you lost 150 on the come out roll, in 33:27 you have 30 insurance back in your rack.
I love the idea of insurance, but I would insure the 11 with $10 and put the Don't Pass with 75 instead. So you have the full $25 insurance back after the point and seven out.
This is the way it goes when I play the don't pass. Lots of sevens and elevens on the come out and hit the points!
What about hopping the 7’s on the come out for $12, doing a $4 yo and a $2 12?
And then do a 3 way craps for $6 to cover the come bets
That Yo on the Come Out DP bet bit your butt a few times. Maybe to a Horn High YO? gonna lose a lot of those also, but double win on the 2, and 3 and not just a push on the 12
Why not the E C to protect your comeout DP?
Im a newbie...so, an honest question.
If you did play that, what unit ratio would be needed?
Or, would playing the field be too expensive because youd have to match your DP?
QQ on the OG strategy…after the point is set why not do a DC? Then in the 2 subsequent come bets u will have 3 bets on the 7?
Progressive-Continuous DC seems to work better w/ less to keep track of
I’ve tested this strategy 5 times so far and the hops really add up. There was 1 night I played for 3 hours and I did not get bit off the 4 or 10. I would’ve had an extra 450 -600 if I did not play the hops. The original strategy seems better.
My feeling about hedging the Yo on Come out is you also have 3 ways to hit the snake eyes plus the 3 for a win, so in the long run it works out; I wouldn't hedge. Unfortunately on this roll, the timing was backward for you! Those craps rolls killed your Come bets!
Can you roll out the 6,7,8 can't lose strategy? $40 DP $18 on 6 and 8.
I can try it but I think the don’t pass will win
Have you ever run the cold table with the DP and then step 2 is the DC bet? Then you get 2 come bets set, and still only use 4 units per shooter. Just thinking on step 2 you would have the DC hedged by the DP, and then once you have the DP, DC set, the next bet is a come bet so a 7 at that point would win 3 units. Just curious if you ever tried it
That's the order that Waylon does on his "Arnold" strategy that's super similar to Crappy's cold table just with different orders of when the DC bet goes out and slightly different bet amounts on the DC vs Come vs DP bets
True, but Waylon typically runs the Arnold from the pass line, and runs 4x the pass through the DC. When he runs it from the DP it doesn't seem to work as well because you are risking too much on the DC. That's what makes the cold table so successful is it minimizes losses and over the long haul rebuilds the bankroll with small wins.@@ChristianYoung
Instead of laying the 4 and then hedging that with the hop bets couldn't you just play the "Any 7" for $10 on every come out? So instead of bleeding $15 on every come out to protect the $150 lay 4 bet you could just be bleeding $10 on each roll and if you hit a come out 7 you'd get paid $40 and have your $10 bet back which breaks you even on the lost $50 DP bet. Unless I'm missing something?
Had a dealer suggest that to me on a cruise because I was playing your Cold Table strat but laying the 4 & 10 on come outs to protect against the 7 and I think he was getting tired of taking the lay bets up and down on every come out roll 😂
You call it insurance, I call it a "vig" (your 4 hops). It is too high for the overall strategy. I have been working on something where the vig is only 10% for DP or DC by playing Yo to cover and then $1 on midnight to cover losing the Yo just because I hate midnight not paying the DP/DC come out. Like someone else said, your previous $100 cap is an easier pill to swallow vs this revision, especially for newer players. Thanks for posting!
If you just bet the 11 for 1 unit when you are on the come out when your playing the dont pass, then any craps for 1 unit when your on the come out for your come bet your covered, however you are throwing away 2 units you have to make up😂 you could just bet the 11, but still losing 1 unit.
on the hardways strat... maybe just max yourself at level 13 and take the loss if you lose?
I had that exact same thought about just taking your losses and licking your wounds at some point. I lost my butt after multiple PSO's at levels of 20 and above. I wasn't down too much at levels 13-16 or so. Maybe that's the cue to take a break and have a drink or something and give it a go later.
At the 38-minute mark, you paid yourself 35 times 15, but that 35 was divided between the hard and easy hop 4's, so that is why you got an extra black. LOL
I left the hard way off as I did on all the other ones that I got up to 30
Friends don’t let friends, martengale. You should know better.
When you combine that with lay bets, which only caused bleed, I think you have a recipe for disaster my friend. You had a working system leave well enough alone.
When you start patching holes in strategies you’re playing right into the casinos hands.
Why wouldn't you hop the 7's instead of laying the four. You would save money.
you can take the lay back to the rack, the hop goes bye-bye
I think the idea is sound though, especially laying the 4 and then hopping the 4. The hopped 4 is always going bye-bye so might as well reduce your bleed and play the any 7 at $10 and if you catch a come out 7 then you get your $50 back and instead of bleeding $15 every roll for the hopped 4s you’re only bleeding $10 and no longer have to lay the 4
@@ChristianYoungGood one. Saves also the vig when the dice hits 7 continuously
I don’t want to be that guy but im gonna you didn’t take
Your $50 away at minute 9:15
And I saw a second time you didn’t pull your don’t on a 7 at marker at 21:31
You lost insurance about 12 times but even if just once you hit 25/15 it may be worth it so it’s tricky
33:21 you forgot
To lose your $30 insurance
Lost the profit cuz you kept pushing.