In this video, we compare the old Type Soul with the new Type Soul. My friend Rail made the amazing thumbnail. here's his discord if you're interested in commissions .ykai
@Oxserei, I’d rather the second option than some trash grunt getting build carried spamming the same bs combos. plus the builds you made actually had so much value, u couldn’t just casually blue pill on any build, now it’s just pill popping every week for the meta mancers.
@@nosleepnoanimations130 yeah but keep in mind a lot of people have lives outside of a roblox game so stuff being way more accessible is better for everyone than a selected few
imo skillboxes and hogs are way too easy to get rn but they shouldnt be like how they were in old type soul i feel like it should be a like 5% from raids 2% in lootcrates (per each item slot i mean) 5% in ranked in gold 1 then increase it by like 2.5% for each rank above
skill boxes and stuff kinda gotta be common as hell because its just a blatent nerf not to have them and if they were hard its going to be a pain in the ass and they wouldnt get ballanced cus nobody uses it how many re rolls we are getting tho... i 200% agree, i gotta see some common users out there throwing hands im tired of death dealing or light in ranked
When I heard Type Soul was coming back I felt a chill up my spine. All the Hatred I had for Arrancar was beckoning back to the game bro. I had to hold myself back for 2 days after the release.
@@Pattila You're right, I'm in fact a quincy. What about it? I simply gave up on being a Vastocar because my own kind kept killing my adjuchas over and over again.
I remember when type soul first release lmao quincies absolutely dominated the servers with their kido kek it legitimately felt like the anime it was quite fun while it lasted (I was a kendo quincy)
@@NotTripp Honestly Fire rework on release was better but they dogged on it, Z dash is too long to land on anybody and you have to rotate it accurately from where you started and it might still miss regardless or be blocked. X hitbox is too inconsistent and the endlag has so bad of a timing that if you tap F simply whenever you can after being hit, it parries almost anything ingame to combo extend. C is the best move out of 3 still but it's not allat, doesn't stun long enough the hitbox is decent and all but it's just flat damage at that point.
@@kaminoroshi5285fire X hitbox needs a buff imo. I use fire shikai as my main element and it’s fun to use compared to the rest of the people who only use mythicals. The Z isn’t so bad but it’s kinda inconsistent to land it constantly, the C is pretty good not bad, the hitbox for C is really good. My least used moved is X cause of how unreliable it can be, even when landing it.
Im with you brother! It was best feeling to go to a raid with fire bankai ready and later on nobody understood why people attack eachother after "surviving" some of my abilities... I also remember my dream was getting dagger, so I can make a clone of myself in bankai Nowadays whenever I pop in KT for fun, in average 2 person pops on me and (at least) 1 of them is always full res ...
Some people think medic is op. Medic on its own isn’t strong it’s the shikai the volt or Rez that’s makes it strong most people don’t know how to fight medic either. At some point the people that use medic have played on it so much they know how to use it fully and are demons with it and then people say it’s not fair.
When you acquire sbs or hogs And get BANKAI in the old type soul It actually felt like an achievement but literally everyone in the new type soul has these. Back then I couldn’t fight a single true but now EVERYONE IS WALKING AROUND WITH TRUE
The new type soul is better in almost every single way except bankai prog. It should’ve remained the same or reduced to like 100 or 75 raids. Nothing can describe how terrifying bankai/full res/vollstandig was in old type soul and I want that feeling back.
Nah ik skillboxes and hog frags alot more common now but I still get excited getting it cause the struggle getting that shit in old type soul was painful 😭
Lol I occasionally give away true hogs and shi to random players because of how easy everything is to obtain in the current state of the game. I definitely liked the grindy aspect of old type soul more, to an extent but I appreciate all the new stuff they’ve added as well as the balancing aspects, also to an extent.
I don't think bankai could ever be stolen permanently but the first part is true, you would regularly see people with unob specs and titles just ganking everyone they see and acting like they were good
Honestly they needa a chill on the reroll codes i started type soul not tooooo long ago But now i got like all 3 mythic sr shikais ON 1 ACC Like both mythic quincy volts And light res Idk it just dodges me legit cant get it Did get like starrk 20 times though💀
preach my brotha 🙏🙏theres people out there popping flower bankai and losing to someone thats not using mode but devs couldnt care less so they just let these grunts have whatever they want
Tbh, one thing I mainly dislike is how they “balance” things, they release completely busted shit then gut it to the point it’s worse than a damn common. And they also just choose to nerf the weirdest things, like the dagger swing speed because they say it’s “slightly lowered” but it feels to be about the same speed as basically any other weapon, I understand that yeah it kinda needed a nerf as it was pretty hard to parry but the thing is it’s a dagger that’s it’s entire purpose, so a nerf could’ve been a nerf to the damage so it’s weaker than the other weapons buts it also faster.
Gotta remember how op essences were like scream essence and destruction essence both had true combos that did 4 bars 😂😂😂 and how also back in the day 8 hogyokus were worth one skillbox
you gotta be an actual neanderthal if you want old type soul back over new type soul. Like bro, Medic shark heavenly essence, scream essence, 200 raids, old auto tracking qkido arrows, bankai bosses having 3x the health, impossible to get SB’s, getsuga jujisho doing half your health, etc if the players these days played old type soul they’d actually just hang themselves over playing the game
The problem is not how rare something is but how functional is, light beng abuse is bound to happen regardless how good it is just because is BUSTED and extremely hard to counter play, to have build variety is to have different ways to approach the gameplay, long range like a mage? Cool go kido, want some hands? Cool hakura, want to close distance with keep melee combos? Go speed (none of this applies to type souls since the game is just whoever spamm the most bullshit wins is just an example) so no matter how rare something is but how effective is, so rarity doesn't matter at all when there's such massive difference in skill damage and how effective they are, as to how easy it is to get bankai, it doesn't matter much, even if you make 1 stage easy as hell the others still tedious, let's not confuse tediousness with difficulty or time wasting bullshit, plus, most player don't have bankai even thou is quite easy to obtain now days (cuz still annoying as fuck to get) as for balance, no matter how much they balanced it, the core gameplay is extremely broken, parry ain't shit, move stacking is absurd and the combat is a bit too fast pace, like I said, whoever spamm the most BS wins, hence why hakuda and speed were so dominant
in my experience with having creation shikai and seeing it, its broken as hell. its like the only shikai or only kind of power in the game that requieres skill from what ive seen, cuz i cant use it for the life of me. either that or im trash 😭
6:21 NO wonder why I don't get skill boxes or hog frags ever. Everyone else is stealing all the rng. 7:23 I swear the most common shikai in the game is kyosugetsu, which is really busted already and they MADE IT STRONGER. WHY?!
Nah man alot of rerrols make it worse tbh dont get me wrong starkk vamp light are good loght is mid in partial but inever seen a slash user even tho it was so good
i look back on old clips and im like wtf how did i even play this game cause bro wdym kt was useless no bank no nothing getting elite grade took 3 days canonically 😭😭😭
new type soul is so much better than old type soul but it feels like they made everything a bit too easy to the point where theres honestly nothing to do in the game. it wasnt fun before because everything was fucking impossible to get but now its way to easy too get basically a max build (unless you dont play clan wars cus the devs meatride the 1 gamemode that requires an entire friend group to play)
Yall remember when it was 200 raids and it went down to 180-160 while grinding the raids people would leave on macros in a glad raid so u would sit there for 20 mins watching you own kind getting 1v2 because one of your own teammate are macroing and by then when the afk dud dies it becomes a 5v2 and u would just lose the raid. Good old times
quick answer: yes, much better. old type soul was full of gatekept content, power hungry losers who would lick the devs feet for specs that they then could spam on the "lowly garbage" that was the community at the time and worst of all, even less new player experience than it has now. type soul is much better now even if i hate setro for wanting to nerf medic and remove it from the game.
Yeah some kid said u needed 60 elite grips and 200 hollow kills + 3 boss kills for stage 2 (without dying), i was literally cringing hearing that. The fact they made it that hard to get bankai, like this shit ain't irl bleach, the devs some weirdos for that, they really wanted no lifes on there game for an eternity, prolly spending their mums credit card on robux for rerolls at the time too, they aint even have that many codes back then from what I heard.
@@dripdolphin3575all correct, also the bankai requirements were constantly being changed by the devs because the cc kiddies wanted to feel special Btw, back then the bankai bosses had probably 3x the health of the current bankai bosses, you had to do 3 grips to reset the cd instead of 1, vizard and allat other stuff like sb’s and hogs were impossible to get, etc. My friend literally spent 2 months trying to get fire bankai and only got it out of pure dedication and grinding 😂 the new players complaining about type soul these days have no idea how good they have it
Both are shit in their own way, old Type Soul was gatekeeping all the cool stuff behind the paywall and the new one simply ain't that good. Like legit, every aspect of it is mediocre. Pvp - trash, parrying - mid, skill trees - mid, variability - mid (almost no different builds, it's either pure speed, kido or hakuda no matter the race), medic skill tree has been forgotten for a little while now, has its own place at the pyramid of trash where it places its own ass to collect dust for eternity. Skills - mid, progression - mid, ranked - mid, pve - mid. And don't get me started on the bugs. The Freaky Bawa still haunts me to this day and 90% of yall wouldn't be able to beat it otherwise. In conclusion, type Shoul should be called type Bug or Type Mid, legit the devs need to rework its parrying system, add more DIFFERENT skills and buff other skill trees.
Yall remember when Arrancars Had Only One partial Skill LMAO
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remember when schrifts didnt exist
good times
@@Jp-ff2ki Real
when arrancars had one partial the moves had no startup and almost every one of them gb'd
the cool stuff is more accessible, but the fact that everyone has it makes it less special
I’d rather it be more accessible than rather than having to no life the game for who knows how long
@Oxserei, I’d rather the second option than some trash grunt getting build carried spamming the same bs combos. plus the builds you made actually had so much value, u couldn’t just casually blue pill on any build, now it’s just pill popping every week for the meta mancers.
@@nosleepnoanimations130 yeah but keep in mind a lot of people have lives outside of a roblox game so stuff being way more accessible is better for everyone than a selected few
Thats why its better fr
imo skillboxes and hogs are way too easy to get rn but they shouldnt be like how they were in old type soul i feel like it should be a like 5% from raids 2% in lootcrates (per each item slot i mean) 5% in ranked in gold 1 then increase it by like 2.5% for each rank above
skill boxes and stuff kinda gotta be common as hell because its just a blatent nerf not to have them and if they were hard its going to be a pain in the ass and they wouldnt get ballanced cus nobody uses it
how many re rolls we are getting tho... i 200% agree, i gotta see some common users out there throwing hands im tired of death dealing or light in ranked
why not make an extra 2skills/true variant and race hard to obtain??? u want a noob to walk around with true everything while everyone slaved for it😭
@@4ktgiooo880why does it matter if a noob is walking around with it if u already have it 💀
we should label old type soul as the heian era of type soul “strongest volt of today vs strongest skill tree of history”
Real
When I heard Type Soul was coming back I felt a chill up my spine. All the Hatred I had for Arrancar was beckoning back to the game bro. I had to hold myself back for 2 days after the release.
Definitely a quincy
@@Pattila You're right, I'm in fact a quincy. What about it? I simply gave up on being a Vastocar because my own kind kept killing my adjuchas over and over again.
@@nightmarecrimson9121 on god I've played every race and it ALWAYS my own kind that killed me the most
@@nightmarecrimson9121 called it (I LOST ATLEAST 30 MASKS TO QUINCIES KILLING ME BACK IN THE DAY)
Nah fr cause when heard type soul was coming back the one thing I remember was that dumb ass obby.
I remember when type soul first release lmao quincies absolutely dominated the servers with their kido kek it legitimately felt like the anime it was quite fun while it lasted (I was a kendo quincy)
Underrated youtuber, keep up with these contents man.
These vids are so underrated, your shi is actually fire. Keep it up
I LOVE (i have stockholm syndrome) TYPE SOUL!
Bro you're pvp deserves a sub and respect
for the fire rework they made a poll saying if they should and ppl said yes
i would argue that old fire was better then current fire
@@NotTripp Honestly Fire rework on release was better but they dogged on it, Z dash is too long to land on anybody and you have to rotate it accurately from where you started and it might still miss regardless or be blocked. X hitbox is too inconsistent and the endlag has so bad of a timing that if you tap F simply whenever you can after being hit, it parries almost anything ingame to combo extend. C is the best move out of 3 still but it's not allat, doesn't stun long enough the hitbox is decent and all but it's just flat damage at that point.
@@kaminoroshi5285fire X hitbox needs a buff imo. I use fire shikai as my main element and it’s fun to use compared to the rest of the people who only use mythicals. The Z isn’t so bad but it’s kinda inconsistent to land it constantly, the C is pretty good not bad, the hitbox for C is really good. My least used moved is X cause of how unreliable it can be, even when landing it.
@@NotTrippI wish I was around to try out the old fire.
@@mohammedhannan2263 The thing with Z is that they increased it's range which delays the hit and makes it harder to aim, thats why its inconsistent.
I remember telling quincys back then that there kido skill tree took no skill, and they would tell me the opposite 💀
Bro forgetting you lit couldn't play Quincy lit filled with soul reapers spawn camping you
@@RealDozai deserved qkido players were droids
Im with you brother!
It was best feeling to go to a raid with fire bankai ready and later on nobody understood why people attack eachother after "surviving" some of my abilities... I also remember my dream was getting dagger, so I can make a clone of myself in bankai
Nowadays whenever I pop in KT for fun, in average 2 person pops on me and (at least) 1 of them is always full res ...
Medic is catching strays
Some people think medic is op. Medic on its own isn’t strong it’s the shikai the volt or Rez that’s makes it strong most people don’t know how to fight medic either. At some point the people that use medic have played on it so much they know how to use it fully and are demons with it and then people say it’s not fair.
@@uusn1037 yappatron medic is ass
@@uusn1037medic is still horrid
as it should be, fuck old medic
This vid is funny ash keep up the good work gng
jus got into type soul really love your content
shits funny man keep it up you gonna be on my radar now for new vids
remember when you werent being popped bankai on as a grade 3 quincy?
that quincy w deathdealing cooked yall
True bankai will give us the type soul experience
When you acquire sbs or hogs And get BANKAI in the old type soul It actually felt like an achievement but literally everyone in the new type soul has these. Back then I couldn’t fight a single true but now EVERYONE IS WALKING AROUND WITH TRUE
The new type soul is better in almost every single way except bankai prog. It should’ve remained the same or reduced to like 100 or 75 raids. Nothing can describe how terrifying bankai/full res/vollstandig was in old type soul and I want that feeling back.
Frr seeing someone with bankai back then made me think they was a dev 😭😭
The fire reworked pissed me off so much bro. I got adjusted to the new one. But the old one was a W
W vid again gng gon need more of them uploads outta you🙏
Back in old Type soul had canon Soul society Quincy invasions
MY beloved ss invasions
Good ol 29 Quincies, 0 Arrancars, 1 Shinigami.
One of the things that i like about the hollow progression is you can beat up soul reapers in raids for progression
every single race in old type souls had it out for starters
Nah ik skillboxes and hog frags alot more common now but I still get excited getting it cause the struggle getting that shit in old type soul was painful 😭
"HES GRIPPING ME CAR"
Lol I occasionally give away true hogs and shi to random players because of how easy everything is to obtain in the current state of the game. I definitely liked the grindy aspect of old type soul more, to an extent but I appreciate all the new stuff they’ve added as well as the balancing aspects, also to an extent.
Slide me a true hog thousand deaths or crazed fr 🙏🏾
Can u get a true hog from kisuke boss?
remember when we ichigo gotta do 180 raids to get his bankai. best bleach moment fr
They really reworked fire and beserk before fixing judgement.
another banger video another stinky carlos
(love you carlos)
I heard that old type soul had a group of guy who had unobtainable op shit and quincies could steal bankai foreva
I don't think bankai could ever be stolen permanently but the first part is true, you would regularly see people with unob specs and titles just ganking everyone they see and acting like they were good
@@TanielTheCatback in closed community they could steal permanently
Creation is OP as hell right now, I aint gone explain I aint gone say anything but if you see me in ranked on an off chance youll see why
Bro is not lying 😭 I have 25 hogs and 20 sb js from doing ranked and boss raids, lit don’t need them and im js gonna switch builds a million times
type soul rerelease really had all of us old heads feeling all sorts of Vietnam racism flashbacks 😭😭😭
Brodie thinks he an OG
Honestly they needa a chill on the reroll codes i started type soul not tooooo long ago
But now i got like all 3 mythic sr shikais ON 1 ACC
Like both mythic quincy volts
And light res
Idk it just dodges me legit cant get it
Did get like starrk 20 times though💀
preach my brotha 🙏🙏theres people out there popping flower bankai and losing to someone thats not using mode but devs couldnt care less so they just let these grunts have whatever they want
On hakuda it was even more OP with negation and deathflair coming out instndlt in the air before
Ima be real ranked is the reason I play this
U guys remember old spine rend going through absolutely everything ever
Yessir
Tbh, one thing I mainly dislike is how they “balance” things, they release completely busted shit then gut it to the point it’s worse than a damn common. And they also just choose to nerf the weirdest things, like the dagger swing speed because they say it’s “slightly lowered” but it feels to be about the same speed as basically any other weapon, I understand that yeah it kinda needed a nerf as it was pretty hard to parry but the thing is it’s a dagger that’s it’s entire purpose, so a nerf could’ve been a nerf to the damage so it’s weaker than the other weapons buts it also faster.
Gotta remember how op essences were like scream essence and destruction essence both had true combos that did 4 bars 😂😂😂 and how also back in the day 8 hogyokus were worth one skillbox
yo how does ur roblox look so smooth? Is it just some post recording stuff u did to make it look that way?
they made an update to where u can boost ur fps with to like 120
You can get executed in soul society by that damn flame bird
you forgot the heavenly essence kendo demons with infinite hp and hella dmg
you gotta be an actual neanderthal if you want old type soul back over new type soul.
Like bro, Medic shark heavenly essence, scream essence, 200 raids, old auto tracking qkido arrows, bankai bosses having 3x the health, impossible to get SB’s, getsuga jujisho doing half your health, etc
if the players these days played old type soul they’d actually just hang themselves over playing the game
Never said I wanted it back
@@NotTripp nah not you just the other people who say they want it back
Im just saying a type soul game where you load with presets and fought to unlock more presets would be a lot more fun than actually playing type soul
"phoenix? whats that? rework kyoka."
The problem is not how rare something is but how functional is, light beng abuse is bound to happen regardless how good it is just because is BUSTED and extremely hard to counter play, to have build variety is to have different ways to approach the gameplay, long range like a mage? Cool go kido, want some hands? Cool hakura, want to close distance with keep melee combos? Go speed (none of this applies to type souls since the game is just whoever spamm the most bullshit wins is just an example) so no matter how rare something is but how effective is, so rarity doesn't matter at all when there's such massive difference in skill damage and how effective they are, as to how easy it is to get bankai, it doesn't matter much, even if you make 1 stage easy as hell the others still tedious, let's not confuse tediousness with difficulty or time wasting bullshit, plus, most player don't have bankai even thou is quite easy to obtain now days (cuz still annoying as fuck to get) as for balance, no matter how much they balanced it, the core gameplay is extremely broken, parry ain't shit, move stacking is absurd and the combat is a bit too fast pace, like I said, whoever spamm the most BS wins, hence why hakuda and speed were so dominant
You should talk about the console support in type soul
idk what u talkin abouit when it comes to skill boxes and hog frags, from 100+ ranked wins and 50+ raids i got 1 hog frag and 2 skill boxes
in my experience with having creation shikai and seeing it, its broken as hell. its like the only shikai or only kind of power in the game that requieres skill from what ive seen, cuz i cant use it for the life of me. either that or im trash 😭
nah the thing about the reworks is so real like why did water get 2 reworks in a month
Qkido still good slide still has the op m1
Every mythical being locked behind clan wars now 🤢
Hello, yes. Did you eat some Member Berries?
yea bro u cook with this video
Oh dont forget them old mods bro 😭😭😭
underrated content wrd2 😭
bro i know i wasnt hearing banjo kazooie music in my ear
The fact that they want to buff segunda equvilent to true bankai despite alot of player have it...
skill boxes are so common someone gave me ONE FOR FREE earlier
Devs nerfed light every single update till this current update my bro got segunda for it popped segunda then rolled off
These devs so damn generous with these rolls bro u can get absolutely anything and everything u want 😭
tired of Kyokasuigetsu and Odachi mfs
amazing vid pookie bacon
yo bro what would u say is the best way to get sbs?
thought u stopped youtube fn
Nah, wanted to take a break cuz college
6:21 NO wonder why I don't get skill boxes or hog frags ever. Everyone else is stealing all the rng.
7:23 I swear the most common shikai in the game is kyosugetsu, which is really busted already and they MADE IT STRONGER. WHY?!
Funny CC imma sub🤣🤣
Carlos an opp bro
If u knew how broke i am rn
They had to rework fire bc it was able to 1 shot the boss with one of the move tbh all they had to do was rework that one move or just fix the bug
THAT WAS THE REAL REASON? Cuz im wondering “who is saying fire needs a rework”
we need a medic luther king atp bro they oppressing every medic player
alright unc
tripp da 🐐 no 🧢
quincy kido is my favorite 💯
Nah man alot of rerrols make it worse tbh dont get me wrong starkk vamp light are good loght is mid in partial but inever seen a slash user even tho it was so good
i look back on old clips and im like wtf how did i even play this game cause bro wdym kt was useless no bank no nothing getting elite grade took 3 days canonically 😭😭😭
i have 150 hogs and like 100 sbs 😭😭
Pass some?
Good game gets small upd and typing big upd they getting hated
Type soul making same: 30k online
new type soul is so much better than old type soul but it feels like they made everything a bit too easy to the point where theres honestly nothing to do in the game. it wasnt fun before because everything was fucking impossible to get but now its way to easy too get basically a max build (unless you dont play clan wars cus the devs meatride the 1 gamemode that requires an entire friend group to play)
they give us codes to forget what they did lol
hi guys i know it has nothing to do with the video but. is there any chance of changing ur vizard quest?
Not to my knowledge
Language
Some jokes are better not to
Some things are better not to
yo im in this video
100% agree , why now the game is so easy ? , Thx God True Bankai is comming ( we need something hard )
Na u not alone gang I fight the same builds in ranked 24/7
fire
Yall remember when it was 200 raids and it went down to 180-160 while grinding the raids people would leave on macros in a glad raid so u would sit there for 20 mins watching you own kind getting 1v2 because one of your own teammate are macroing and by then when the afk dud dies it becomes a 5v2 and u would just lose the raid. Good old times
dam it was 200 raids, omg the no lifes are mad asf bruh
starrk on top 🥱
I think you forgot mediace
New type soul is better
Pretty much all they did was balance the game and make it less grindy
quick answer: yes, much better.
old type soul was full of gatekept content, power hungry losers who would lick the devs feet for specs that they then could spam on the "lowly garbage" that was the community at the time and worst of all, even less new player experience than it has now.
type soul is much better now even if i hate setro for wanting to nerf medic and remove it from the game.
They need to fix console controls
remember when only 0.2% of type souls players actually have bankai
Yeah some kid said u needed 60 elite grips and 200 hollow kills + 3 boss kills for stage 2 (without dying), i was literally cringing hearing that. The fact they made it that hard to get bankai, like this shit ain't irl bleach, the devs some weirdos for that, they really wanted no lifes on there game for an eternity, prolly spending their mums credit card on robux for rerolls at the time too, they aint even have that many codes back then from what I heard.
@@dripdolphin3575all correct, also the bankai requirements were constantly being changed by the devs because the cc kiddies wanted to feel special
Btw, back then the bankai bosses had probably 3x the health of the current bankai bosses, you had to do 3 grips to reset the cd instead of 1, vizard and allat other stuff like sb’s and hogs were impossible to get, etc. My friend literally spent 2 months trying to get fire bankai and only got it out of pure dedication and grinding 😂
the new players complaining about type soul these days have no idea how good they have it
Medic users been dead for a while now
THEY GROO- wait mythical reroll? I ain't seen nun minors what minors screenshots I don't believe them
Minors? What minors..
Both are shit in their own way, old Type Soul was gatekeeping all the cool stuff behind the paywall and the new one simply ain't that good. Like legit, every aspect of it is mediocre.
Pvp - trash, parrying - mid, skill trees - mid, variability - mid (almost no different builds, it's either pure speed, kido or hakuda no matter the race), medic skill tree has been forgotten for a little while now, has its own place at the pyramid of trash where it places its own ass to collect dust for eternity.
Skills - mid, progression - mid, ranked - mid, pve - mid.
And don't get me started on the bugs. The Freaky Bawa still haunts me to this day and 90% of yall wouldn't be able to beat it otherwise.
In conclusion, type Shoul should be called type Bug or Type Mid, legit the devs need to rework its parrying system, add more DIFFERENT skills and buff other skill trees.